Topic: Trump's win, not convincing enough! - page 2. (Read 1040 times)

I don't think trump could have done much better given how prejudical the whole education system is in brainwashing the population over the last 40 years.

Even back in 2016, when Trump was facing Hillary Clinton and ultimately won the electoral college, he promised a lot of things, being the most famous one to build the wall (and make Mexico pay for it) most of the stuff promised by Trump did not happen and now, several years forward I still don't expect that man to keep his word and do a fraction of what he has promised he would do as a president.
Do you all remember how he talked about how fast and easily he was going to pay off the public debt of the United States in a single term? Under his first administration the national debt only rose, because he thought it was a better idea to cut taxes for his billionaire friends and further increase the burden on the future generations of Americans.

I could even bet he won't dare to put tariffs on Chinese goods as he has said he would during his campaign, because someone (more intelligent than him) will persuade him from doing it, for the sake of the fragile economy of the United States.
If you are a Bitcoin holder or a trader, just expect more tax cuts on your assets, and that is being too generous from Trump.

But Trump's throne is a throne of freedom that he is bringing back to all of us. You can see it in the price of Bitcoin... to the moon and stars. Also, review the post above this one.


Liberal Hollywood Star Michael Douglas Admits That Trump’s Republicans Are the ‘Party of the People’ While Dems Are ‘Elitists’

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/11/liberal-hollywood-star-michael-douglas-admits-that-trumps/
There's a long ongoing saga of liberals trying to come to term with reality.

Besides mad leftists shaving their heads and freaking out on camera, there are also those who try to understand America's moment using whatever mental faculties the TDS did not destroy.

It's the case of Academy Award winner Michael Douglas.

The Hollywood star has allowed himself to admit – even if it was notably painful for him – that the GOP under President-elect Donald Trump is now the 'party of the people', while Douglas' beloved Democrats are now seen as 'elitist'.

The actor appeared Friday ( on Bill Maher's Real Time , and the episode dealt primarily with Trump's historic victory over Kamala Harris.

Douglas, who is a liberal diehard supporter of the Democrat party, did not hide his distress over Trump's win.

Breitbart reported:

"'Wednesday morning, I was just so pissed at this razor thin race, right? It was going to be so close, you know, with all these polls — and it's a wipeout', Douglas said, adding that he later spent the day playing golf."

Douglas told Maher that the Democrats lost the election over the economy.

"'In 40 years, the stock market has increased 5,000 percent and real earning wages have increased 14 percent', Douglas said, later adding that ordinary Americans 'are going week to week with the inflation, it is killing them'.

'And I think we really underestimated it, and the very fact now that we could talk about Republicans as being the people, the party for the people, and that we have this elitist party on the left, Democrats, is wild'."
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Sorry, OP, but seeing the price makes me excited and convinced.
I agree that Trump may not change much for bitcoin, but at the very least he'll end the period of uncertainty, as he won't go after it.

What did Biden try to do? Choke bitcoin by delaying ETFs, allowing environmentalists to attack it, especially in Congress.
You can see who was on their side, since Harris considered promoting Gensler if she happened to win the election, while Republicans were criticizing him.
I'm not even going to start talking about Elizabeth Warren and Brad Sherman. Democratic camp is full of anti-bitcoin, pro woke socialists. I'm glad that they don't get to dictate their terms for the next 4 years.

You have a genuine concern, Trump will do little or nothing in the crypto space, he only used it as part of tactics to ascend the throne, nevertheless, it's working for the market which is what we should think of right now. After all, this has rekindled the market excitement and brought about more liquidity, that's good. The market often reacts more heavily to rumours and promises than reality at times, so I am not surprised about what is happening. This is coupled with the present bull run season of Bitcoin as we experience in cycles, so we should enjoy it while it lasts. Things will subside in 2025 as usual when the bearish season comes into play again, but I don't know if Trump's disappointment in followers will aggravate it this time.

After the election of Donald Trump, the positive thing that everyone expected for Bitcoin in the market is being realized according to Trump's statement and the price of Bitcoin has already hit 82 thousand dollars where my expectation was 85 thousand dollars. so it can be said that Bitcoin is almost at the end of reaching its maximum price. But it is possible that in this hype the price of Bitcoin may reach more than our expectations which may be more than 90 thousand dollars.

If Kamala Harris wasn't a crypto supporter, putting Kamala Harris in Donald Trump's place would cause the price of Bitcoin to drop significantly. We've heard many say that Kamala Harris is not in favor of Bitcoin. Donald Trump is a supporter of cryptocurrencies, as we have seen in the market over the past few days. However, the cryptocurrency market will go up unilaterally, it is not mandatory. So dumping after that is normal as the market has been going up for a long time. But if the market is dumping there is nothing to blame Donald Trump.

Therefore my position in responding to this kind of thing is to remain neutral until the demands that are beneficial especially for the crypto community are met. People who provide support because there is an agenda that is expected to be realized. Trump has officially won and his inauguration has not started, so we will wait and see what steps will be taken in the first 100 days after he was inaugurated, whether there is a realization of the promises that he has been touting in every campaign, be it issues of overcoming war, the economy, or Bitcoin position in the US.

Somehow this is the effect of his victory since bitcoin create certain good grip since many people believe that it will be supported by Trump administration since this is what he promised and always said to people. As of the moment Bitcoin already surpassed again a new ATH and currently sitting at $82k and there huge chance that we can see a $90k until end of this year.

If Kamala Harris won? I guess the approach is different. But we won't see a bad dumps since for sure people would still be bullish despite of that possible event that might happen. But guess there's nothing to do now especially for Harris supporter, Trump already won and they need to deal with what he want to implement in America.

Yes that is true though if not for his victory we wouldn't have seen Bitcoin surging this fast, okay just come to think if it was Kamala Harris who won the election do you think bitcoin would have still waxed this strong in terms of price action and movement? 

No! I don't think so, by now we could have been bleeding seriously because the market will suffer losing and lot of US citizens could have been looking for a way out currently but I guess it's the opposite were he finally emerged as the winner of 2024 presidential US election.

Yes, it is like a gambling because we never know what they will do when they elected. Many politicians change their vision after they elected and do something different from their promises. We as a citizens is already know about that so we don't have a big hope from them to do what they promise to us.

Politics can makes someone change so it is not surprising if someone changes after they are elected. Although there is some people who can works as they promises but the number of those who change themselves is too big. That may affect to the government program and maybe they will not works for the citizens and their country.

We have seen Trump and Biden administration. I don't think politicians work for 100% of the people but there is definitely a divide between them. The way the Biden administration has created a global war situation over the past few years cannot be expected from Trump. He believes in peace and not war. Trump is more business minded and as a politician I think that is the most appropriate thing to do.

Not only the Americans but the world now hates the Biden administration and its actions have destabilized the whole world due to which Trump has been able to make a big difference in the election. I cannot predict how much Trump will be able to change the situation of the war from his position but it is assumed that he will play a role in stopping the war.

Since Trump came to power, there have been drastic changes in several areas. In particular, the cryptocurrency market has seen an unprecedented change. The amount of investment in the crypto market has increased significantly in the last few days. According to CoinMarketCap data in last 24 hours the market cap was $2.69T which is expected to increase to 3 Trillion soon.

The thing is.. Many speculate that if Harris would be put in the place of Trump, the market would plummet a bit, but as we know - after a storm, comes a calm period  So it would be a dump with the better positions for big hands to wait for the news to start the rally, albeit a bit later that we experience now.
However - we may experience corrections along the way we walk along the aftermath of the elections, so, it wouldn't really matter to me who won - the rally for BTC would start anyway.

I would say it would 50/50, but I hope for your words to be true.
BTC would propel forward with or without Trump, there would be just a different event or chain of events to do so, but we are here at BTC being 80k-ish, and with a perspective to go further than that, definitely.

This.
I totally agree with your statements, poltiicians are known for what they are good for - playing for the people around them and chaging the meaning of the words, twisting them and etc.
So only time would tell how much of Trump's promises would be addressed and delivered.

Not for this aspect because already we have seen how the market is surging uncontrollably this means his promises would come into effects, and besides he has already given his words during campaign and I don't think he could be that deceitful as i know Trump is to strict on his words and i mean everything that comes from his mouth will surely be implemented, even though not 100% at least 68-89% must surely be implemented. Like I know, it's his victory that is propelling bitcoin so far and so fast so we shouldn't think otherwise.

Well the truth is just because he won the presidential candidacy sure doesn't mean that he HAS to do what he says he was going to do.All politicians are full of shit, and none of them and up actually doing what they say they are, and he is certainly no ecxeption.  Now despite that fact that I despise the guy, if he actually does try and change is ways, then I'm willing to give him a chance.  So that means if he is truly "pro-crypto" well then I'll have a lot more respect for him sticking to his word when it comes to fighting for it. 

Yes, Trump may break his promises after becoming president but at least with his victory, the market is doing quite well and we should be grateful for his victory which contributed to this price increase.

And if we doubt and distrust Trump, why don't we wonder what would have happened if Harris had been the winner? I bet the market won't be that positive and a dump is inevitable instead of a rally like it is now. So stop doubting Trump because at least his victory is much better than Harris' regardless of whether he keeps his promises to us or not.

You guys like to theorize and doubt everything but you should also remember that we don't have many choices, we can only choose 1 of 2 between Trump and Harris. If Trump is not seen as a good choice for the markets, then don't expect anything better for us if Harris wins.

Well, whether he keeps his promises or not is a thing to be discussed when he takes the presidential privileges in his hands; for now, we should at least be happy that his winning the election brought some positivity in the market in the shape of Bitcoin's price going up which has made the alts start making some good moves. All Bitcoin and altcoin holders are happy these days because of the profits they have got. We should at least enjoy this short-term happy phase before we might see bad things happening again.

There is no doubt that politicians tend to be pretty good at creating drama and lying for benefits such as getting votes and support and changing after the elections are gone and they have brought in power, but we should hope for the best. We have seen him making some efforts in this area this time around, he even used Bitcoin for making a purchase, lol. 

Hopefully, his stance won't change, because if it does, that might be the beginning of the new bear cycle, I'm afraid.

In his first term most of his logical and possible promises where delivered 70% of it or even more. New war didn't happened on his term even the bullying of other big countries (Russia and China) to its neighboring country didn't happen and didn't become worst. But sadly, pandemic happened on his terms, and that's the worst thing to happen to any president in any country at that time so i can't say any evaluation about the economy on his term.
Well, at this time, i will also say what was quoted, at least vote the least evil and with more potential, so yeah, we will stick to it.