Topic: Trust Spammer and Abuser " The Pharmist" Back on business (Read 1165 times)

"The Pharmacist" actually gave a negative rating to a Bounty Manager that didn't do his job properly and didn't care much of what I had to say.
After the red rating from "The Pharmacist", the Bounty Manager started to care & listen to what I got to say.
Ultimately, the Bounty Manager paid me tokens from his pocket due to his mistakes, all these, thanks to "The Pharmacist".

This is the Reference Topic: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/x4-is-an-incompetent-bounty-manager-updated-3319150

ps: Lauda didn't give him Red Trust as the Bounty Manager already had Red Trust and considered that it was my fault I trusted the Bounty Manager even though he had red trust for account farming.

You are still here with 2 exclusions and 2 inclusions. Obviously you are greatly inferior to my 3 exclusions!

I didn't know that either.  Wouldn't surprise me, though.  The politics on bitcointalk are crazy, but I'd be interested to know who excluded me.

Ah, OK.  So nothing has changed.  Thank you.

I see your answer BTCforJoe and I can't stop myself to share a different story with you.

Mistakes happen on this forum and not all DT trust members are so polite and willing to discuss their choices.

I was tagged by Hillariousandco more as 100 days ago for "Trading merit with those who leave him points as advertised via his avatar. Also copied content without proper attribution".  My case is not resolved until today and Hillariousandco doesn't answer to my innocents' proofs from one month in my negative trust thread. Of course, I haven't traded or given in exchange even one merit and I have added an announcement to my post about missing quotation before Hillariousandco tagged me not after as he says.

As you see BTCforJoe you were lucky to be tagged by another member because I have written like you 4 PM's in 2 weeks to Hillariousandco. I was always very polite using words thank you, please, sorry and never got any reply. After that, I opened my reputation thread to prove that I am innocent.

You can read here my last answer to Hillariousandco in my negative reputation thread which contains proofs and sums everything up https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-remove-negative-trust-from-hilariousandco-2864431

2girls says about another member or even members who were not tagged despite they abused forum rules same as 2girls. My situation is similar. I was tagged for an avatar I have copied from legendary member Jeremycoin and he was not tagged red despite I have written about this to Hillariousandco next day after it happened and I have posted about this in my reputation thread. This member used this avatar for a few days more and like I said before nobody tagged him. When I asked about this everybody seems to not see this question or just ignore it.

I have even added a merit policy (Merits only for quality content, no merits in exchange, spam is not good) to my signature and avatar and worn it for about 2 months. Nothing helps I am still tagged. If this was such a crime why to punish only me?

I am on this forum 5 years frequently. Never rushed to achieve higher rank, never spammed (my first posts are not so good but I learned how to post quality content), never did anything wrong, never insult anybody or used offensive language (I know this is not in forum rules and is allowed but I am proud of this), never got warning, etc.

I don't think I am guilty. I don't fill guilty and I can do nothing. This is killing me every day because in my reputation thread high-rank users advised me: "you have to move on", "don't worry red trust is not the end of the world", "nobody looks on red trust". This all is not true. I was rejected several times from various projects and promotions on the forum because of red trust. I was involved in a discussion and member told me: " do something with your red trust first and then come back to talk here". It was humiliating for me and I have to admit that I'm ashamed when I post. I try to even avoid these subforums where you can see trust because I noticed that people do not treat you seriously with a red trust and you can forget about merits completely.

I have to add that I have seen The Pharmacist around the forum and I think that he is an asset with no doubt. Didn't know about his problems and that he is not in DT anymore. I think his posts are very valuable and high quality. I like to read his point of few because sometimes his words influenced the change of viewpoint by me. From what I saw lately, his judgments were accurate, I agree with them.

What you may not know is that I don't give a shit about a signature campaign. I've only ever been a part of 3 of them since I've joined this forum, and before re-joining ChipMixer's, I took a long pause in not joining any, simply because I don't want to be misconceived as a shitposting spammer. The only reason I re-applied to ChipMixer's sig campaign is because the majority (and by majority, I mean like 90%) of the posts I've seen by participants in this campaign were extremely substantial. I use ChipMixer to anonymize my coins, and I stand by their service. I am using my signature space personally to vouch for a service that I personally use, and I get to earn a few bucks on top of that.

I could care less if I get paid for my posts or not. I don't post for the purpose of getting paid; I would post the exact same way regardless of what I have in my sig space. Why not give my post history a gander and see for yourself, rather than just trying to passive-aggressively insult me? Or was that your attempt at humor?

#epicfail

The key part of his post is "sole purpose", which you either missed or couldn't understand.

I don't even care if someone is here just to get paid, as long as they can write interesting material--and write it coherently.  Those two qualities are sorely lacking in the vast majority of noob's posts.  They are not qualified to take up writing as a career, even if it's just writing on a discussion forum like this one.  What they write is just spam.  It's garbage that no one spends time reading, and if they didn't get paid to do it, they most certainly would not be here.

Now Maum goes back on ignore.

Advice from a member, who earned already 2 x 0.00075 BTC (the last post was too short) in the thread of 2girls with paid chipmixer signature, lol.

Stop posting for the sole purpose of earning an income. That's your problem.

Ok I am up for the challenge. As you mentioned avoid one liner posts, My posts are not one liners and I not shit posting on the spam bumpy topics.
I read the whole thread and then posting my arguments. Since i am RED painted, i will not get any income for doing all the posts also.

So now Please tell me what else i need to do to proof myself ?

He stated what he did because it’s true. 3rd world shitposters are different than 3rd world contributors. Hell, I currently live in a 3rd world country, yet my contributions to the forums are often extremely valid. The major difference between a shitposter and a contributor? A shitposter’s sole purpose here is to earn an income. That is fine, but when it comes in the form of single sentence spam posts that don’t contribute to anything, it’s merely there to count as a “point” on a scorecard. That is not healthy for the forums in the least bit. A contributor will take their time to construct a post, and think carefully about what kind of message they want to relay. They will often think twice about posting, especially if their answer coincides with someone who has already answered the question. They don’t post in megathreads. They don’t care about the sound of their own voice. They do care about the quality of their post and the health of the forums.

I fully stand by The Pharmacist and what he is doing. He is not singling out individual users that he has a personal vendetta against; he is protecting this forum from substanceless accounts that are only here for the sole purpose of filling the forums with unsubstantial posts.

My advice to you would be to prove that you are a contributive member here for the next several months, and then ask the negative taggers to revisit your trust feedback, and at the very least to change it to a neutral rating. It happens here rarely, but you must be able to show that you’re a substantial member of this community. Are you up for the challenge?

You are right. I am also not so aggressive but we have to deal with on person to person basis. If you ask them politley they will still make fun of you by claiming to be third world shits..lolzz... I have addressed this is my below posts. There you can see how DT member :The Parmicsts: making fun of people cryings and watch my reply on it too...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.33464359

Dude, 2girls... Quit being so aggressive.

I was once red-tagged for some stupid post where I offered to provide a review service in exchange for being paid for my review. I immediately deleted the post, but I was tagged. I sent a message to the DT user who tagged me, and explained my situation in a calm manner, and that I was apologetic and didn't realize I was actually displaying fraudulent behavior until it was too late. After reading my explanation, the DT user changed the negative feedback rating to a neutral one. He had no reason or obligation to do that, but I think because I approached him fairly and calmly, he gave me the benefit of the doubt.

Over the course of several months, I started becoming more active here, making some friends, and calling this my internet home... I've dedicated countless hours to consciously becoming more contributive until finally, I decided to message that DT user and asked him to review my post history so I can prove to him that I was a contributing member here. I then asked him to remove the neutral trust. He did.

I'm only telling you this example because being nice and respectful can go a long way, and that it's at least possible to get a red tag reduced to a neutral one... You haven't displayed any instances of respect in this thread.

Regarding the reason why The Pharmacist didn't leave a negative trust on those trusted members' accounts? Because they've already proven themselves to be trustworthy. There was no need for them to have to defend themselves, as they've built up their trust. You, on the other hand, have not. That's why you're getting ridiculed here; your aggressive behavior is not going to get you anywhere, and you've got to be delusional if you're seriously comparing your situation to yahoo's, blazed's, or omega's...

Just my personal opinion as I keep seeing this thread progress with your responses.

Ok i accepted your words here. Let me clarify you two things here.

First, You did not give Red trust to Yahoo, Blazed, Omegastarscream etc because they are all trusted already. So you can trust them too and of course i also trust them. But the point is who am i ?  Me along with many others  don't have any positive trusts and so you will give us negative rating for accounts sales posting of 2 years before ? When we were also new and did not have any idea of where this could go to....

Secondly, you are saying that first i became a trusted campaign manager and then you will rethink of my trust ? If you would have given RED paint to Yahoo, Blazed, Omegastarscream before they become trusted managers, they would have never become because of RED paint.

Thirdly, you think everyone should become trusted campaign manager and you will recheck ? Not everyone here comes here to become a Campiagn Manager and i have no intention of doing so even if you give me 100 Positive trust  

Finally you said that " Yahoo62278 isn't a shitposter,"...So do u think i am writing these shit posts ? Just my 80% of the posts are againist you only, does this make me a shitposter ?

That's right, because Yahoo62278 isn't a shitposter, and he's proven to be trustworthy a thousand times over.   We can talk when you become a trusted campaign manager--or otherwise prove yourself worthy of my trust.  The same argument goes for me not leaving a neg for Blazed, Omegastarscream, or the other ones I can't even remember.  I take other factors into account before leaving someone a neg for account selling, and I have removed negs when people have turned into fine, upstanding members of bitcointalk.  Deal with it.

Ive seen this somewhere long back, but I am posting here someone can shoot the alt name of this person
https://prnt.sc/hgikxp

Edit Got this link
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lauda-sold-bitcointalk-accounts-giving-neg-for-others-for-same-reason-2410318

Don't bother. Monkey see no evil.
http://archive.is/07Mh3#selection-3215.0-3215.216

Oh Nice. You will not remove my neg. feedback for just asking for account buying ? but you WILL NOT leave a Negative feedback on yahoo for actually buying selling account here.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-this-account-1050272

Where does your forum cleaning and all the justice bull shit goes now?

?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/conflict-of-interest-on-dt1-3197685

Well, I took part in that thread and I don't remember reading your post either. Usually I find it better to directly (via PM) inform them before doing so publicly.

It was most likely a whiny PM, which I don't answer anymore either. People bother me with useless nonsense quite often. I've learned that the simplest form of replying is to put them on the ignore list.

Well, solving this is easier said than done. The thing is, some notable members that used to deal or attempt to deal in accounts in the past have not been tagged and won't be tagged (neither Cabsav nor OP are examples of notable members). The potential solutions are:
1) Tag the remaining users.
2) Remove the tags from the other users.

Both cause more questions (if you consider people with positive trust and/or people who are staff members notable members) and difficult edge-cases. Before you ask me what those might be, spend a minute or two thinking about the implications of going via either route. I'm sure you will figure out a few.

My bad, you're right. I did bring it up after I saw cabsav was ignored. I assumed TP would read it, since that whole thread was about him, but perhaps he didn't. TP was removed from DT shortly after, so I forgot about it until now.


A lack of consistency in old ratings is completely understandable, but I think we both agree that these inconsistencies should be fixed. The thing is, when most people bring this up, they are dismissed as salty shitposting account farmers. While this is generally the correct reaction, I think there are a number of instances similar to the one I referenced where the issue is not so black and white. Cabsav both PMed TP about it and made that post, yet was ignored on both fronts. If I was in cabsav's shoes and saw that there were (future) staff members doing the same thing in the same thread who got away with it, I'd be pretty upset too. All I'm saying is TP needs to address the selectivity of some of his ratings, when someone has a legitimate complaint he shouldn't completely ignore them.