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Topic: "Trust" system is shit !!! "Trust me !!!" - page 4. (Read 2522 times)

legendary
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August 28, 2018, 10:50:08 AM
#10
The trust system is meaningless when green trusted accounts can be sold, and the trust is transferred to the new owner.
sr. member
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August 28, 2018, 10:33:46 AM
#9
A Positive Trust is given when someone made an honest act or someone made a good transaction and etc. to a particular member which shows that the person who gave +Trust trusts the one who received it, but doesn't mean that the person who received Positive Trust won't do something stupid. That's why it is still much better to just "don't trust anyone" except if that member is a very reputable and trusted by a lot of members.

Trust system were really working fine as it is right now but the problem is there are bunch of people who were abusing it just the same with the Merit System.

So you were scammed a few months ago? Why did you just posted it today? You should have reported it here or in Scam Accusation right after you were scammed. I'm just wondering why it's already months too late before you came up to this topic. Additional bad news is you forgot the guy's username as it's a long time ago.
To be honest I would say that owners of this forum are not doing good job .
Oh boy, you're mistaken.
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The trust system is meaningless when green trusted accounts can be sold, and the trust is transferred to the new owner.
Well, that's right. I'm just about to add but you really are hundreds of steps before me  Tongue
legendary
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August 28, 2018, 10:31:08 AM
#8
Few months back I had traded with a positive trust guy and he turned out to be a scammer
Green trust doesn't mean he will never scam. You should checked reason of green trust. I can trust anybody for specific reason. Same also for DT. Nobody forcing you to deal with green trust. It's depend on you how trustworthy for you.

The trust system is meaningless when green trusted accounts can be sold, and the trust is transferred to the new owner.

This is allowed by forum. That rule was before implement of merit system. Now should be  ban account sale officially. Although it can be trade outside of forum, it doesn't mean forum should allow it. If forum ban trade account that means if some one catch his account will ban permanently.
legendary
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August 28, 2018, 10:25:55 AM
#7
There are definitely flaws in the trust system, but if we had to do deals in order to leave trust, DT members wouldn't be able to tag shady members and those who are trying to scam.

By the way, who scammed you?  I'd be interested in seeing his profile.  I also got scammed by a green-trusted member, but I was asking for it since it was a loan I didn't ask for collateral for, and I kind of blindly assumed his green trust had more weight than it did.  With all the account sales going on, you never know who you're really dealing with or if their trust page means anything.

I disagree that mods should be the ones leaving all the trust--not that it's even an option.  It's been discussed and discarded before.

To be honest I have forgotten his profile as he scammed for even a small amount and I was quite surprised of how he could spoil his trust for such small amount . Do not worry, as far as I remember he was negative tagged later . If mods can verify your ID, or you want to upload your ID like LBTC then you could be tagged with "verified" mark . Your account might get hacked anytime who knows and your positive trust could be misused . The "hack" may even be not real . However, a verified can be contacted in case of "false hack" situation .

Adding KYC to this forum would really destroy purpose/ideology this forum was once build on.

Furthermore, the forum as of right now can barely recover hacked accounts that have signed messages that prove ownership.

I really wouldn't be so sure that this would drastically improve with KYC. I honestly only see downsides. People hacking my/other accounts and misusing their name/doxxing them, extorting them, the forum's database could could get hacked, the list goes on and on.
sr. member
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August 28, 2018, 10:24:02 AM
#6
Well it is not something happen in a daily basis, where the "trusted members" do some scamming. The best thing to know before you look into a trust is you should understand that trust is not moderated by the forum, so any green trusts still mean it can do some scam to you while the red trust (especially if the reason for the red is the account did the scam before) members have a big chance to scam you.

Although i am sorry to hear that you got scammed, it is hard to believe that the scam from your case ever happen unless you have some proof to prove it, even it is only a small amount.
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August 28, 2018, 10:17:28 AM
#5
There are definitely flaws in the trust system, but if we had to do deals in order to leave trust, DT members wouldn't be able to tag shady members and those who are trying to scam.

By the way, who scammed you?  I'd be interested in seeing his profile.  I also got scammed by a green-trusted member, but I was asking for it since it was a loan I didn't ask for collateral for, and I kind of blindly assumed his green trust had more weight than it did.  With all the account sales going on, you never know who you're really dealing with or if their trust page means anything.

I disagree that mods should be the ones leaving all the trust--not that it's even an option.  It's been discussed and discarded before.

To be honest I have forgotten his profile as he scammed for even a small amount and I was quite surprised of how he could spoil his trust for such small amount . Do not worry, as far as I remember he was negative tagged later . If mods can verify your ID, or you want to upload your ID like LBTC then you could be tagged with "verified" mark . Your account might get hacked anytime who knows and your positive trust could be misused . The "hack" may even be not real . However, a verified can be contacted in case of "false hack" situation .
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August 28, 2018, 10:13:48 AM
#4
By the way, who scammed you?  I'd be interested in seeing his profile.  I also got scammed by a green-trusted member, but I was asking for it since it was a loan I didn't ask for collateral for, and I kind of blindly assumed his green trust had more weight than it did.  With all the account sales going on, you never know who you're really dealing with or if their trust page means anything.

I'd be interested in seeing the profile too.  Maybe it is a situation that can be addressed before another user is effected.
legendary
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August 28, 2018, 10:13:10 AM
#3

Few months back I had traded with a positive trust guy and he turned out to be a scammer . Now the question is Does this forum's "trust" system really offers what it seems to ? To be honest I would say that owners of this forum are not doing good job .
I'd agree that the trust system could potentially be abused rather easily. I know instances where people indeed were able to simply buy DT1/DT2 trust for a couple bucks.
(See the email service of TBZ as a prime example of that.)

But, i don't see any other system that could work, and i think that this system is pretty self-evolving, (In the last couple of months, i have yet to see any (imo) unjustified positive feedback.)

Accrding to me , Trust should only be handles by moderator of any particular section .

Totally disagree. Moderators already have a hefty workload, and they shouldn't be the ones to judge, for obvious reasons.

Trust should be strictly limited to trading and the negative rating should only show up when a scam has been done . A warning will be enough rather than shitty negative look which spoils your profile .
Disagree. You want to give ponzi promoters a pass? Or the people that are promoting autobuy links?

The system in most cases becomes rather useless if we have to wait until the ""crime/scam" has already happend.

legendary
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August 28, 2018, 10:10:33 AM
#2
There are definitely flaws in the trust system, but if we had to do deals in order to leave trust, DT members wouldn't be able to tag shady members and those who are trying to scam.

By the way, who scammed you?  I'd be interested in seeing his profile.  I also got scammed by a green-trusted member, but I was asking for it since it was a loan I didn't ask for collateral for, and I kind of blindly assumed his green trust had more weight than it did.  With all the account sales going on, you never know who you're really dealing with or if their trust page means anything.

I disagree that mods should be the ones leaving all the trust--not that it's even an option.  It's been discussed and discarded before.
full member
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August 28, 2018, 10:04:39 AM
#1
Few months back I had traded with a positive trust guy and he turned out to be a scammer . Now the question is Does this forum's "trust" system really offers what it seems to ? To be honest I would say that owners of this forum are not doing good job .

Accrding to me , Trust should only be handles by moderator of any particular section . Trust should be strictly limited to trading and the negative rating should only show up when a scam has been done . A warning will be enough rather than shitty negative look which spoils your profile . Infact trust system should be like LBTC, which asks for your ID .
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