Topic: Trying to find some coins from late 2008 or early 2009 - page 2. (Read 715 times)

In early 2009?

The only way to mine bitcoin at that time was to run BitcoinQT and the result of that would be for the Bitcoin to be mined into an address associated with that instance of BitcoinQT. That would NOT be a transfer.

If we throw away all the pieces of your story that don't match reality (assuming that you're memory has just gotten a bit distorted over time), the best that can be pieced together from what you're saying is:

Either they convinced you to install BitcoinQT on your own computer, and convinced you to run it to mine some bitcoin for yourself. Or they ran BitcoinQT and mined the bitcoin to their OWN wallets. Then they could potentially transfer that bitcoin to you, but you'd have needed to supply them with a bitcoin address for them to have done that. If they were running a website that they convinced you to log into and that website showed a bitcoin balance, then you almost certainly never had any bitcoins.  Those bitcoins (if they even existed) remained under their control.

You claim to have sent them $10?

Did you use PayPal? Did you mail them a $10 bill via U.S.P.S? Did you give them your credit card number? Did you use Venmo? Did you go to a local bank branch and deposit $10 into their bank account? Did you use Western Union?


Too many of your statements fail to match up with well-established history.  This leaves a few possibilities:
1. You are attempting a scam of some sort, but didn't spend enough time verifying the story you created.
2. Your memory of dates and events has become clouded a bit over time, and you are unwilling to accept that possibility
3. You have come from an alternate reality. You travelled across dimensions and are now in a parallel world.

Guessing 2010 , is more accurate.
https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-history-part-6-the-first-bitcoin-exchange/



https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-exchange-bitcoin-market-20

No idea, if any of this relates to you, your info was too vague.
If you left the btc on a web site, odds are your coins are long gone.
But checking old emails or paypal or ebay records from 2010, might give you a clue.

If it wasn't an exchange, I assume you didn't send anything in exchange for bitcoins, right? You just received them? How? You must remember something. Did you perhaps win a competition in that online game? There was a game with roots in 2010, someone had tweeted that once, but I can't find it. There were also some rewards in another multiplayer game. I think first two earned 100$ and the third 250 BTC? Sort of.

If you didn't install Bitcoin-QT at that time (2009-2010) it's highly unlikely you ever really owned bitcoins.

Once again it was not a exchange! If the people I was dealing with could set up bitcoin pretty sure they had their own site for a transfer. Thank you on your bitcoin history lesson! Did you also know there were other types of crypto before bitcoin? It was just never used like bitcoin! I know you have your phd in crypto but give it a rest

again you want to ignore actual events of bitcoin history.

its not about any personal opinion or emotion.. its just plain hard facts of researchable data..

get that hint atleast!!

you have been told the actual history of bitcoin.
you ignoring actual events is a red flag that you dont care about finding anything real.

you repeatedly trying to push a silly story wont change the facts of bitcoins blockdata or events of history.

you are becoming as bad as CSW

so one last time
there was not site available offering bitcoins late 2008-early 2009 which you could have a login username or password for

the earliest site that allowed such method of trading was march 2010

(a site in october 2009 didnt have a log-in trade service. it was a price listing page where people would do email correspondence to get paid paypal and the seller would then send bitcoin to someones bitcoin address in the buyers bitcoin wallet (no 'log-in' just email chat/trade)

Franky is it envy or jealousy that someone has been involved with bitcoin before you or may be able to get the coins I have at a specific site? You cannot see data of coins transferred from one to another if they were mined! It was sent from one guy in a group to me and they as a group acknowledged that it went through and were excited about it. You have been going off the wall about this and maybe I can shed some light on things! Calm down and let me get proof! Working on it. This was me trying to get in contact with them and a call for help with known sites! Stop making this out to be something it’s not. IM NOT HERE TO SCREW ANYONE OVER AND I KNOW WHAT WENT DOWN. Maybe you just want the last essay/word. Go copy and paste what they said entirely! Thanks again!
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no there is not
back in 2009 there were not that many people
case in point. blockchain data can tell you alot

did you know that from 2009-march 2010, that if you look at the amount of transactions done per day. yes whole days. the average transactions even as far as march 2010 was under 10 transactions A DAY

there were not that many people using bitcoin back then
it was not even thought of as an investment before march 2010
people were not valuing it as a asset to be bought and sold for fiat before march 2010
there was not even a website to log-in to do trade before march 2010

The whole bitcoin world is filled with these kind of stories. There are a lot of people who either had bitcoin or even other coins that now gotten some value after the last bull run. I have read so so so many people who didn't care about their dogecoins for example back in the day because the highest it went was like 3 cents and they didn't care bout some 50 bucks on their wallet somewhere, but when that became 70 cents that same 50 bucks was now 10 thousand dollars and they wanted to find where it is.

This is just an example on doge, there are hundreds that went up on the last bull run and this is just the non-bitcoin one, we have a lot of stories on bitcoin wallets not being able to reached anymore as well.

he is not trying to search for his lost treasure

read between the lines.
several people have told him the hard facts about real historical events of bitcoin and (lack of)available exchanges in that era

which he has ignored(had no interest in acknowledging/accepting as truth)
he has instead doubled-trippled down that his made up narrative is the version of history he wants to follow.

his version of events do not align with reality.

bitcoin circa early 2009 was NOT:
a big community of lots of people where there were lots of "clans" of different groups doing their own private thing where they had their own private services that others didnt know of..

bitcoin circa early 2009 was:
a small community of only ~a dozen devs/geeks/coders by summer. where there were no services.exchanges. there was no big push to sell coin as there was no "value" at that point. it was more of moving coins for bug fixing and code upgrades within a small group who were the only ones that knew of it at that time.

bitcoin was not mainstream/widely known/talked about in games and social groups at that time. it was more of a geeky intriguing project. not a financial investment at that time

You are not the first case to look for your lost treasure, and I am only telling you from the experience of someone who started following this forum back in 2014. Even if there is someone who will read your post and that someone recognizes what you are talking about, do you think it is realistic to get back something that you paid $10 for, and today is worth hundreds of thousands of $?

You can hope, no one is preventing you from looking for answers to the questions you have, but in that case you should expand your search much wider than this forum. If these people are gamers, then maybe they are active on some forum that specializes in that kind of thing.

its not about belief.. (unlike the ploys you are tryign to attain)
its about hard data fact..

there was no bitcoin to even transfer late 2008
the first "log-in" website that allowed trading within the website. was not available until march 2010
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.747
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for someone that wants to know about the history and early events of bitcoin. you are really trying too hard to ignore hard data, real events .. to only want to push your narrative that sounds like you want to pretend you knew and spoke with bitcoins creator and the first few devs of the time where you are already suggesting that they pushed/talked you into buying something that you say you didnt receive but deserve..

as evident by the hints you make in these two quotes of suggesting you are trying to get coins you pretend you are owed from a date that bitcoin was not even traded


sounds like you are stupidly setting up a empty story line of trying to suggest that they owe you thousands of coins worth of value.. (via lawsuit) using your silly social drama as "proof". using what i am presuming and pre-empting to be a lame photoshopped screenshot of a fake "trade"

you are not original..

you are very very obvious with your disregard of facts and data of actual events. wanting to not bother doing the research. wasting more then 24 hours pushing your story repeatedly saying "provide proof soon" but not just staying quiet until you can actually show proof

you are as bad as CSW

now get the hint. your story does not align to fact or data..
its not a belief its a fact. your story does not line up. so get that hint.

you are not the first to try these games

some people may try to politely hint that you might have your date mixed up and pretend to help you. but that does not mean they believe you were involved and bought bitcoin on some exchange in late 2008-early 2009..

The first bitcoin exchange was setup by the user New Liberty Standard, at BitcoinExchange.com. There was also a site called CoinPal, where you could buy bitcoins with Paypal. Try searching these in your emails, just out of curiosity. Do not expect to gain access after so many years, and without even being sure you've ever bought or mined any.

Are you sure it was Bitcoin and not Linden dollars or any other in-game token? Plenty of in-game economies existed back then.
In 2010 (or 2011), someone set up an L$ to BTC exchange inside Second Life.
You don't remember which game you were playing or the website you used to buy Bitcoin, but you are confident you remember the date. Explain this.

I understand that you do not believe people and myself! I get it. I see people literally worship this coin. I am 100% sincere and have questions. I was not a close friend. We gamed as a group and had a blast joking. It came at a crazy time, bad time in my life and to see what it has become is crazy. (Not looking for donations Franky just stating a fact) That one site you mentioned says it came out in 2015 so that wont work.

one more time just for the clarity

there were not cryptocurrencies until january 2009
the first bitcoin blockchain transaction between 2 people was january 12th
the recipient was Hal finney(now deceased)

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the first trade using a service was on october 12 2009
using "new liberty standard" in which the wbsite just listed daily price. and requested users to email the site owner with an order. and on agreement the site owner would give the user a paypal email to pay fiat. and the user would give the site owner a bitcoin address to receive the coins.

this first trade on 12th october was done by a well known user that set the first milestone of a "exchanged" price bitcoin trade

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the first "exchange" that had a log-in portal to allow trading within the site was not until march 2010 called the "bitcoinmarket"
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thus.. you could not have had some log-in username and password to some bitcoin exchange in late 2008-early 2009

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Well that means you raised up with bitcoin (started with bitcoin). But at that time bitcoin knowledge has not been spread to everyone, it was only few people and you were one the lucky therefore, since you were one of the pioneers of bitcoin which means you were one of the closest friend or you were in the bitcoin creation city that heard about bitcoin as early as possible. That not withstanding, if you would gotten it at that time by these time you would have one the bitcoin wealth personnel in the bitcoin space. But if you have the money to but it, there are a lot of site and apps you can get from p2p. Such as Binance and Remitano and also from your local bitcoiners (if there is any). The cash you have in your hand will determine the quantity of bitcoin you will need.

Another thing you have to also consider is. Your country, is it a bitcoin friendly one. If it is bitcoin friendly country then it will be preferable to get it from well known Bitcoiners but it is not not then you use online vendors either apps or sites which I have given.

There are two possibilities, whether OP forgot when he bought Bitcoin exactly or trolling. It's because we can't buy things that hadn't been discovered yet. We assume it troll because you don't have any knowledge about Bitcoin birth. If so you should know when Bitcoin was born. However, if you are right and really bought Bitcoin at end of the 2009 then likely you used Bitcoin clients. So research about that if the story is real in any case.

That period! You say that like it was 100 years ago. It may be a shot in the dark but IF one of them happens to sit on the bowl and check the main bitcoin forum out then its a shot ill take. I have no idea who is on this forum at all. If i hear nothing then i know im getting the finger. They kept up the satoshi thing for a while i see lmao.

You are new to the forum, so you are not to be blamed for thinking that way - but how many people from that period do you think are active on the forum? There are a few people from 2010, and a few more from 2011, but most of the active people on the forum are those who were not aware that Bitcoin existed in 2009 or 2010. The chance that these early adopters read the forum is therefore very very small.

Maybe you recognize someone by their nickname or a new light turns on for you -> https://bpip.org/

Lmao Franky you remind me of the guy on the series SEVERANCE - Dylan (Zach Cherry) Jumping to conclusions and accusations Its hilarious. I hope the so called EARLY FOUNDERS read this and maybe things will click in. Not trying to take anyone for a ride here just seeing if they read this and can remember the site we used, could have some damn coin. That's it. Thank you for trying to tell me i have dementia or a case of old timers but no! I know what went down and they do to. Ill get the transaction which might take a bit and get the exact date and amount. Till then Thank you for all the help and this seems like a fantastic community!