Trying to restore my wallet from 2009 or earlier

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Are there any precedents for recovering long-forgotten wallets? I happened to bump into stories sounding like 'a guy seeking for a PC with 1k BTC wallet that was out to garbage'. But I've never heard 'a lucky lad finds his old PC and gains access to his crypto wallet'.

If you bother check Bitcoin Technical Support, there are few cases where such case happened. But there are many reason why wallet could be recovered or not, such as how intact is the wallet and how much the owner remember the password.

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I fear losing access to my ballet crypto wallet even though I'm sure of its reliability. I wish I could say the same about myself...

They follow BIP standard and their software is open source, so it's less likely you'll lose access to your Ballet wallet. But you could always write down hint of your password, save their documentation and download their software if you worry that much.

P.S. If you have more concern about Ballet wallet or preserving your wallet, please create new thread instead.

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Okay i wrote an email for both two persons which u tagged, not sure if they care about and answer, so ill wait.

I download 1.5.6, there is only source code. I couldnt get it to work. (The Setup.py) Any advice for linux debian 10

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Quote from: Bennoko on February 12, 2022, 04:27:14 PM

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Quote from: Bennoko on February 11, 2022, 02:51:22 PM

Link doesnt work Sad

The links in my reply?
It's working at my end, I guess your ISP is blocking GitHub or some other reasons why you can't access it.

Link opens but win-download button cant find the file, it says no longer on server

Those links aren't supposed to be download links.
Those are links to Electrum's repository (just for reference) and to ThomasV and SomberNight which have their contact info.

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Quote from: nc50lc on February 11, 2022, 09:46:26 PM

Quote from: Bennoko on February 11, 2022, 02:51:22 PM

Link doesnt work Sad

The links in my reply?
It's working at my end, I guess your ISP is blocking GitHub or some other reasons why you can't access it.

Link opens but win-download button cant find the file, it says no longer on server

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Quote from: username33333 on February 12, 2022, 12:18:13 AM

It's better if you created your own thread and explained your issues there. That way there wont be conflicting information shared with two users for two different problems.

You saved your recovery phrase digitally, without making multiple physical backups of it on paper, and now your hard drive has broken down. From your own example, you can see some of the dangers of doing that. Since there are no other backups of your seed expect the file on your hard drive, your only chance for a recovery is to find someone who can retrieve that data or try to recover it yourself. The exchange, or person you bought it from doesn't matter in this case. You mentioned that Ecurrency4u site. If the coins were moved from that platform to an address generated from private keys and a seed you no longer have, that site can't do anything to help you because they aren't the ones that have access to it.

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HI Please i have the similar issues with this too, I created the account on windows 10 and then got my phrase and saved in into my laptop. few days later my laptop started having issues (it was not turning on)and i took it to the repairer, when i came to get it he told me that the issue was my hard disk and i had to get a new one which i did. then i took that opportunity to install kali linux cause windows was getting boring well here i am now trying to find if there is even a way to get my account back cause i have lost the phrase to it and more importantly i bought roughly 12 dollars btc inside first was 2 dollars and the next one was 10 dollars. i used this website Ecurrency4u.com to buy it. i dont know if this would be of help to you to help trace my account but i would love it if i could get my account back

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Quote from: Bennoko on February 11, 2022, 02:51:22 PM

Link doesnt work Sad

The links in my reply?
It's working at my end, I guess your ISP is blocking GitHub or some other reasons why you can't access it.

Bennoko

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Link doesnt work Sad

nc50lc

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Quote from: Bennoko on February 11, 2022, 05:38:39 AM

“Seeds were working on it, doesnt work on 4.1.5“
It means it opens the wallet, there is no checksum, but no history no balance, totally different wallet i think.

Ah, so it's basically something similar to v0.30 and v0.34's compatibility-breaking update to the key derivation.
But unfortunately, I don't know if there's another update like that.

You can try to ask the developers themselves from electrum's Github repository.
Specially ecdsa (ThomasV) and SomberNight. (they have email address in their GitHub profile)

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“Seeds were working on it, doesnt work on 4.1.5“
It means it opens the wallet, there is no checksum, but no history no balance, totally different wallet i think.
Thank you for ur efforts. Really.
I ll try the link u gave above in the evening

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Quote from: Bennoko on February 11, 2022, 02:02:48 AM

I dont give up😂 one more question whats the first v1 version of electrum that broadcast on ecdsa.electrum.org
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You mean can be downloaded from electrum.ecdsa.org?
IDK but this is the oldest archived page of the site's download page: web.archive.org/web/20121109025628/http://electrum.ecdsa.org/download.html

Bennoko

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I dont give up😂 one more question whats the first v1 version of electrum that broadcast on ecdsa.electrum.org
Cause i remember the update popup in app and download the new updated vers on ecdsa its changed the name as starts with v1.x.x
Seeds were working on it, doesnt work on 4.1.5. Also 1.8 is doesnt generate new receive adress there is no tab to click for new and doesnt show any adresses even in electrum.dat. Its full empty wallet with no adresses including test seeds and my seeds. Its recovery mode

When u click on new wallet;
And yes 1.8 versions seeds working on 4.1.5, there re exact 5 adresses same on 4.1.5 as in 1.8 version

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Quote from: Bennoko on February 03, 2022, 05:23:33 AM

Its ok, ill try my chance sir, where i can find first vers of including export private keys

Version 1.7 is available here (only from source): https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/releases/tag/1.7
Version 1.8 and onwards' binaries are available in their archive download page: https://download.electrum.org/

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Its ok, ill try my chance sir, where i can find first vers of including export private keys

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Quote from: Bennoko on February 03, 2022, 12:16:01 AM

Is there a version of upgrade saying that inside the app, please update the electrum, copy the private keys? Do u remember a message like this?

Nothing in particular, specially the "copy the private keys" part.
After v3.3.3, there's been an option to prompt the user whenever there's a new version, but that's released in 2019.

Quote from: Bennoko on February 03, 2022, 04:30:16 AM

Ok got it, i remember for new uptade alerts, where can i find the first vers which is able to export private keys with right click on the adress? 1.7? Or higher?

Take note that seed phrase created with any other versions after v0.34 are still compatible with the latest version.
So importing it to those versions will do nothing but restore the same keys that would've been restored in the latest version.

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Ok got it, i remember for new uptade alerts, where can i find the first vers which is able to export private keys with right click on the adress? 1.7? Or higher?

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Quote from: Bennoko on February 03, 2022, 12:16:01 AM

Is there a version of upgrade saying that inside the app, please update the electrum, copy the private keys? Do u remember a message like this?

Ever since the update alert message was added to Electrum UI, it has been producing a pretty simple message informing the user that a new version is available and can be downloaded from the official website. It doesn't tell you to do anything else.

There was a small exploit in Electrum which affected old clients and only happened when user broadcasted a new transaction to a malicious server and that server returned a custom html showing the user a message redirecting them to their malicious website.

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Is there a version of upgrade saying that inside the app, please update the electrum, copy the private keys? Do u remember a message like this?

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Quote from: Bennoko on February 02, 2022, 01:14:16 PM

Both two version re creating max 5 different private keys, each two vers. even generates different prv keys n adresses, there is nothing similar, still balance zero

There re only 2 servers , must be at least 4 -5 which vers. I used. Ecsda, - ro. de.50005, blockstream700 am also imagining.
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Are you pertaining to the balance in the the latest version where the private keys are imported?
If so and the connection icon is green (lower-right), then I'm afraid that those imported keys are really empty.

AFAIK, there's no other seed compatibility-breaking update after v0.34 so those are the only two versions that you can try.

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Both versions shows the exact 9 seed words true as i wrote, last 3 seeds re missing and not showing up in seed icon, looks like i opened the wallet just with 9 words
I tried to write different seeds it opens the wallet more than different as i wrote. Like i write “swim” it generates “flower” n there is totally different wallet if there is a wrong word in ur seeds. So thats the proof of my seeds re true.

I can't reproduce this since I don't have those versions installed, try to ask @ETFbitcoin if he can reproduce it to see what's happening.

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Here re the results that i recognized btw both 0.30-0.32 versions

Both versions shows the exact 9 seed words true as i wrote, last 3 seeds re missing and not showing up in seed icon, looks like i opened the wallet just with 9 words
I tried to write different seeds it opens the wallet more than different as i wrote. Like i write “swim” it generates “flower” n there is totally different wallet if there is a wrong word in ur seeds. So thats the proof of my seeds re true.

Both two version re creating max 5 different private keys, each two vers. even generates different prv keys n adresses, there is nothing similar, still balance zero

There re only 2 servers , must be at least 4 -5 which vers. I used. Ecsda, - ro. de.50005, blockstream700 am also imagining.

Still no right click on adress tab in 032 for prv key

I wish old electrum does not sending any seeds to anyone which i write, is it safe everytime everytry i write down?

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