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nc50lc

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Quote from: Bennoko on January 18, 2022, 02:11:43 PM

-snip- After i close it n then opened again there re new seeds, 9 different words before that there were 8 words with different wallet

I can't comprehend this, are you somehow clicking "create" instead of "restore" when you're trying to restore the seed phrase?
Create is for generating a new Electrum wallet thus, you'll be given a new seed.
Restore is for re-creating an Electrum wallet from an existing seed phrase.

Quote from: Bennoko on January 18, 2022, 02:11:43 PM

-snip-
It doesnt even recover the test seeds. It does if u wait long but no receive adress at all

The error seems to be related to connection issues since there are no available servers for that version anymore.
Was that after restoring your seed phrase and not the test seed?

If it's the correct seed phrase: Since it still started after the error, that should be enough.
To generate addresses, go to 'Receive' tab then click "New address" below.
Create multiple addresses (about 20~40) so the electrum.dat (when opened as text) will show those 20~40 addresses' private keys.

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Whats the problem

https://imgyukle.com/i/opqDcP

It stays like this, doesnt decode? After i close it n then opened again there re new seeds, 9 different words before that there were 8 words with different wallet

It doesnt even recover the test seeds. It does if u wait long but no receive adress at all

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I Also looked for electrum.dat
There is no installation it runs on python, so all i found the folder, file called electrum is that which I downloaded codes folder,files from github

Ill check detailed again when im at home

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Quote from: Bennoko on January 18, 2022, 01:56:43 AM

Okay I noticed. Still no wallet.dat file, searched a lot. When u try to open the electrum it starts with the test over and over again which I created at the beginning

The file that you should open as text is "electrum.dat" file, but should be the one created after restoring your seed phrase.
The old version doesn't support multiple wallet files so, you should delete/rename the test wallet first before you can create/restore a new wallet.
electrum.dat should be located in electrum's data directory: https://electrum.readthedocs.io/en/latest/faq.html#where-is-the-electrum-datadir-located.

BTW, 'wallet.dat' is for Bitcoin Core client.

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Okay I noticed. Still no wallet.dat file, searched a lot. When u try to open the electrum it starts with the test over and over again which I created at the beginning

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Quote from: Bennoko on January 17, 2022, 06:39:53 PM

And thats not the private keys. Thats the code for seeds -snip-

The "no encryption" wallet has the addresses' individual private key right next to them;
Those are in "Uncompressed WIF" so those are the 51-characters-string that start with '5' after the address list.

It can display more even if the wallet isn't online based on ETF's response in this reply, then read the next reply:

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Quote from: nc50lc on January 10, 2022, 07:36:55 AM

If more addresses are requested in the receive tab, will the unencrypted electrum.dat file display as much private keys as in the receive tab?

Yes.

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Quote from: ABCbits on January 10, 2022, 05:48:42 AM

Quote from: Bennoko on January 09, 2022, 10:44:22 AM

Am i able to do it too even if i ve no developer knowledges?

Yes. Even if you never use linux, it's not difficult to follow tutorial and copy/paste few command.

Quote from: Bennoko on January 09, 2022, 10:44:22 AM

And would u check the Server if there is 50005 port or whatever?

All server list on Electrum 0.30 is dead. As for running server from source code, i didn't try it because it require additional dependencies and very old Bitcoin client (which i doubt could connect to Bitcoin network).

Quote from: nc50lc on January 09, 2022, 11:54:44 PM

Quote from: ABCbits on January 09, 2022, 08:37:17 AM

I managed to run Electrum 0.3 on Debian 10,
-snip-

Can I get a copy of a "for test" electrum.dat (wallet) file from version 0.30? (or share a download link for everyone)
Because I'd like to play with it using various tools, also to be able to test some options for OP.

The wallet file size is very small and can be opened as plain text, so i'll share it here.

1. Encrypted with password "xyz789!".

Code:

(2, True, 0.005, '', 50000, 0, 'QBdnHhFGv6X4Uxj+zmnfDh9XkEjgYfoQf1bgZ3EhxF3WdiYnk0uqD6cc7dGk4BEBy+VDz4RbLknY4Cw1s8nWUw==', ['1BACH8EE1gih5N2bSKn4fvKPwBKVfz26ph'], 'AnO1hV80vmsc8xU8d1qNE9xC2z9urv+arlOjJQGOCzj4fsyga6OKSvH1Ntd7E4nrejPrJHh4fkwSI1difE4+jB3/D0LDEH2ZGswZNn7cFnc=', [], {'1BACH8EE1gih5N2bSKn4fvKPwBKVfz26ph': None}, {'1BACH8EE1gih5N2bSKn4fvKPwBKVfz26ph': []}, {}, [])

2. No encryption.

Code:

(2, False, 0.005, '', 50000, 0, 'f13c6f65388dabc85344fb8dc5f14bd6', ['16qN7kUt8SHUhXGXM6My1vM2Q8rn5qm37o', '1EGzJgCZsfDFEcER1YN7eAwFsD5UCDxw9G', '1HRojpi9WcBLYgcBHz7WG7ZtV6NMYNNDwx'], "['5JTvMqQhEeBQwcGBjPGsBod2XTsAQB7TWGgCMEpAdfsjVBcAze3', '5K5rq6DKJ95VxjLnkf26uF2NBMdMh1fkrZupm5rCKNcqCNj9ivA', '5Jx8NSAuaWUFN5aDSJZxHx6CRnWnATAd6yw6AhMCBWmf7nq8QTG']", [], {'1HRojpi9WcBLYgcBHz7WG7ZtV6NMYNNDwx': None, '16qN7kUt8SHUhXGXM6My1vM2Q8rn5qm37o': None, '1EGzJgCZsfDFEcER1YN7eAwFsD5UCDxw9G': None}, {'1HRojpi9WcBLYgcBHz7WG7ZtV6NMYNNDwx': [], '16qN7kUt8SHUhXGXM6My1vM2Q8rn5qm37o': [], '1EGzJgCZsfDFEcER1YN7eAwFsD5UCDxw9G': []}, {'16qN7kUt8SHUhXGXM6My1vM2Q8rn5qm37o': '', '1EGzJgCZsfDFEcER1YN7eAwFsD5UCDxw9G': ''}, [])

Electrum 0.30 apparently doesn't support multiple wallet file, so you'll need to create new plain text file at ~/electrum/electrum.dat.

Quote from: nc50lc on January 09, 2022, 11:54:44 PM

Also, have you found an option to export the private keys in Electrum version 0.3?

No, all i could found is option to show seed.

And thats not the private keys. Thats the code for seeds
U cant past inside the master keys option in new version when u try to restore it with masterkey
https://ibb.co/YfCxyyc

https://ibb.co/PDf4ZVc

But these keys generates exact seed when u try to restore it with seed option

Am stuck again which is the private key

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Quote from: ABCbits on January 09, 2022, 08:37:17 AM

I managed to run Electrum 0.3 on Debian 10, so i'll write what i did. It's not fresh install, so it's possible there are required library that i've installed manually beforehand (which missing from guide).

1. Update all application

Code:

sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade

2. Install all requirements

Code:

sudo apt install python-pip python-gtk2-dev
python2 -m pip install ecdsa==0.7 slowaes

3. Run Electrum

Code:

cd client
python2 electrum.py

Here are few screenshot i made.

Hi again
well, i did this far i couldnt find the wallet.dat file. There is no multiple wallets so i need to delete the test one and also look inside for private keys, but where it creates the wallet.dat?

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Quote from: nc50lc on January 10, 2022, 07:23:42 AM

Quote from: Bennoko on January 10, 2022, 07:16:56 AM

Well, am shocked now, no option to export private keys? Then thats not the version of am looking for. Mine was able to import n export.

It may be version 1.7 which has export private key function but that's not as old as you described (released on 2013).
And if it's from that version, the seed should be able to restore the same keys in the latest version.

Could it be not Electrum?

Am sure it is. Just dont know what version n who modified. Now it’s definitely not one of thomasV editions i think. Servers was electrum 50005, the start up electrum with java
Im recovering all the hdds i ve ever had since now. Nothing yet, just one to go, cant find the place where i put inside home that i hide it carefully last year

Quote from: nc50lc on January 10, 2022, 07:53:36 AM

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Quote from: nc50lc on January 10, 2022, 07:36:55 AM

If more addresses are requested in the receive tab, will the unencrypted electrum.dat file display as much private keys as in the receive tab?

Yes.

Okay, so that can be the potential solution for the various threads authors who claims that they have a "very old" electrum seed.

@Bennoko, if you think that it's really that old and the seed is empty when restored in the latest version, it's worth the try.
Install Electrum 0.3 by following ETFbitcoin's guide, restore the seed phrase, create a bunch of addresses in the receive tab, then open the electrum.dat file using a text editor.

Yes i ll need some help, searching around friends who d still use linux n compatible to writing codes. i feel so blind when i stuck in some bunch of wrong codes n when i don’t know what to do;)

Thank you everyone

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Quote from: nc50lc on January 10, 2022, 07:36:55 AM

If more addresses are requested in the receive tab, will the unencrypted electrum.dat file display as much private keys as in the receive tab?

Yes.

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Quote from: nc50lc on January 10, 2022, 07:16:19 AM

Will it show more if you generate more receiving addresses in the receive tab? (try 10/20)

If you mean more Bitcoin address shown on "Receive" tab when "New address" button is clicked, the answer is yes.

Sorry, I mean, in the electrum.dat file.
If more addresses are requested in the receive tab, will the unencrypted electrum.dat file display as much private keys as in the receive tab?

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Quote from: Bennoko on January 10, 2022, 07:16:56 AM

Well, am shocked now, no option to export private keys? Then thats not the version of am looking for. Mine was able to import n export.

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Well, am shocked now, no option to export private keys? Then thats not the version of am looking for. Mine was able to import n export.

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Quote from: ABCbits on January 10, 2022, 05:48:42 AM

-snip-

Thanks, looks similar to 1.x but lacking the master keys and other data; I guess the newer wallet tools wont even recognize it.

Quote from: nc50lc on January 09, 2022, 11:54:44 PM

Also, have you found an option to export the private keys in Electrum version 0.3?

No, all i could found is option to show seed.

The good news is if he wont encrypt the wallet when he restore it using the seed, some of his private keys will be written in plain text in the electrum.dat wallet file (as seen in the unencrypted wallet file).

Will it show more if you generate more receiving addresses in the receive tab? (try 10/20)
I'm thinking that it may be an easy way to dump the keys instead of finding a wallet tool that supports that electrum.dat version.

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Quote from: Bennoko on January 09, 2022, 10:44:22 AM

Am i able to do it too even if i ve no developer knowledges?

Yes. Even if you never use linux, it's not difficult to follow tutorial and copy/paste few command.

Quote from: Bennoko on January 09, 2022, 10:44:22 AM

And would u check the Server if there is 50005 port or whatever?

Quote from: nc50lc on January 09, 2022, 11:54:44 PM

Quote from: ABCbits on January 09, 2022, 08:37:17 AM

I managed to run Electrum 0.3 on Debian 10,
-snip-

The wallet file size is very small and can be opened as plain text, so i'll share it here.

1. Encrypted with password "xyz789!".

Code:

(2, True, 0.005, '', 50000, 0, 'QBdnHhFGv6X4Uxj+zmnfDh9XkEjgYfoQf1bgZ3EhxF3WdiYnk0uqD6cc7dGk4BEBy+VDz4RbLknY4Cw1s8nWUw==', ['1BACH8EE1gih5N2bSKn4fvKPwBKVfz26ph'], 'AnO1hV80vmsc8xU8d1qNE9xC2z9urv+arlOjJQGOCzj4fsyga6OKSvH1Ntd7E4nrejPrJHh4fkwSI1difE4+jB3/D0LDEH2ZGswZNn7cFnc=', [], {'1BACH8EE1gih5N2bSKn4fvKPwBKVfz26ph': None}, {'1BACH8EE1gih5N2bSKn4fvKPwBKVfz26ph': []}, {}, [])

2. No encryption.

Code:

(2, False, 0.005, '', 50000, 0, 'f13c6f65388dabc85344fb8dc5f14bd6', ['16qN7kUt8SHUhXGXM6My1vM2Q8rn5qm37o', '1EGzJgCZsfDFEcER1YN7eAwFsD5UCDxw9G', '1HRojpi9WcBLYgcBHz7WG7ZtV6NMYNNDwx'], "['5JTvMqQhEeBQwcGBjPGsBod2XTsAQB7TWGgCMEpAdfsjVBcAze3', '5K5rq6DKJ95VxjLnkf26uF2NBMdMh1fkrZupm5rCKNcqCNj9ivA', '5Jx8NSAuaWUFN5aDSJZxHx6CRnWnATAd6yw6AhMCBWmf7nq8QTG']", [], {'1HRojpi9WcBLYgcBHz7WG7ZtV6NMYNNDwx': None, '16qN7kUt8SHUhXGXM6My1vM2Q8rn5qm37o': None, '1EGzJgCZsfDFEcER1YN7eAwFsD5UCDxw9G': None}, {'1HRojpi9WcBLYgcBHz7WG7ZtV6NMYNNDwx': [], '16qN7kUt8SHUhXGXM6My1vM2Q8rn5qm37o': [], '1EGzJgCZsfDFEcER1YN7eAwFsD5UCDxw9G': []}, {'16qN7kUt8SHUhXGXM6My1vM2Q8rn5qm37o': '', '1EGzJgCZsfDFEcER1YN7eAwFsD5UCDxw9G': ''}, [])

Electrum 0.30 apparently doesn't support multiple wallet file, so you'll need to create new plain text file at ~/electrum/electrum.dat.

Quote from: nc50lc on January 09, 2022, 11:54:44 PM

Also, have you found an option to export the private keys in Electrum version 0.3?

No, all i could found is option to show seed.

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Quote from: ABCbits on January 09, 2022, 08:37:17 AM

I managed to run Electrum 0.3 on Debian 10,
-snip-

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Wow great work. Congratulations n thank you
Am i able to do it too even if i ve no developer knowledges?
And would u check the Server if there is 50005 port or whatever?

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Code:

sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade

2. Install all requirements

Code:

sudo apt install python-pip python-gtk2-dev
python2 -m pip install ecdsa==0.7 slowaes

3. Run Electrum

Code:

cd client
python2 electrum.py

Here are few screenshot i made.

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It's not exactly easy task since very early version of Electrum lack documentation and discussion. But i'll try it later to see how difficult is it.

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Okay, mine was a win installer. Just a setup. U d write the comment here at the end of process

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Quote from: Pmalek on January 07, 2022, 03:48:33 AM

Have you played around with the updates and configurations as suggested in the article and did anything help?

I just tried to open the address in a private window, but it didn't help. It is possible that it is not up to the browser, so the problem may need to be looked in AV or Malwarebytes, which for some reason think that something is wrong with SSL.

After a bit of testing, I think I still managed to find the culprit - I removed s from https and then the page was blocked by MB with a message that it might contain a Trojan virus.