Topic: Turkey will not apologise for shooting down Russian jet - page 2. (Read 7058 times)

The Syrian crisis has actually benefited the Turks. Some 2.2 million Syrians have fled to Turkey, and now the Turks are having cheap labor in the form of these migrants. In addition, Turkey is going to receive EUR 3 billion per year from the European Union, to look after these migrants. And last but the least, the EU has also agreed to permit Visa-free travel for the Turkish citizens.

I dont have any information about this osetya issue. Im following this isis news in internation news and local news and i dont agree with you about turkish goverment support isis. this Syria war has damaged us most. more then 3 million syrian live in turkey now and most of people (and i ) really dont want to live with this people. we dont understand their languages and their culture very different from us. even so we have no choise about that.

Tell this to people, who have been killed by terrorists in Chechnya, North Ossetia, Dagestan and so on. By terrorists, who have had received the medical treatment, monetary support and asylum from Turkish authorities. Who took advantage of the weakness of the state at that time and tried to cut off a piece for themselves, just like they're acting now in Syria. With friends like that, who needs enemies?

We have nothing against significant part of turkish people, but your government and IS are variations of the same thing. We still remember what Grey Wolves and other thugs have done in our country, and we won't forgive that. Downed plane was just a pretext to bring the old memories back, simple as a piece of cake.

erdogan never do apologize for this.they need to do apologize also but we didnt want to do it. Putin wants to threaten with sanctions turkey. but they will lose us in the area soon. turkish people and govement always looks a friend country russia. but putin will change this idea in turkish people mind. (sorry for bad english my 3. languages.)

Won't happen. For Erdogan, any apologizes would mean an instant political death. And, what is the most offensive to Erdogan, he himself has created this problem. That's is why he would rather turn the entire country into a sinking Titanic than apologize.

just apologize and move on! they're just creating more unnecessary tensions which might soon lead to war or idiots from both countries doing something they might regret like committing a hate crime. just be the better person and apologize and move forward. wars and nonsense hatred begin with something as pathetic and simple as this.

Today more information has been released. Russia says Turkey buys the ISIS oil, which if you read from many sources then you already knew this, and Turkey shot it down because Russia really is attacking ISIS and moderate rebels( some of which come from Turkey) and Turkey wanted to secure the oil trade routes.  It's an interesting accusation and although I dislike Putin very much, I think this is one of those things that the American public just isn't supposed to know. Personally I think the meda paints Turkey(prior to this) as a cooperative country in this whole operation. Remember last year when it was big news that Turkey was allowing us to setup shop in Turkey to combat ISIS?

This is all part of something much bigger and we all must do what we can to read between the lines of the media and see what's really going on. That way we can actually prepare for what may be.

In the end, while oil is the #1 power source in the world, the poor middle east( which is abundant in oil, duh) is going to remain a chess board with big boys playing for keeps using the ignorant consumer as a pawn. High ranked officers are more like rooks or bishops in this, this not aware of what's really going on. They just think they are fighting to make sure their loved ones can stay safe on home soil. It's all an illusion. This safety net can be crushed in minutes or less and panic would ensue.

Pretty stupid idea, such scenario has never ends well. War eventually ends, and then original owners are coming back, armed with overwhelming fighting experience and crazy amount of weapons.

Why can't Turkey asked Russia for apology for its jet unintentionally crossed into Turkey's border with concrete proof and then apologizes for shooting down the jet and agrees to some kind of compensations for the jet and the killed pilot? Prolonging the conflict does not do anybody any good.

Erdogan was planning to annex the Turkmen inhabited regions of North-Western Syria to Turkey,taking advantage of the ongoing civil war. Until a few days ago, everything was going according to the plan. The Turks had ethnically cleansed the region of other ethnic groups (Kurds, Alawites, Armenians.etc). But then the Russian retaliation happened and all the Turkmen fled to Hatay. 

Downing a Russian aircraft was probably a reaction to Russia sending cruise missiles over Turkey Airspace without notification.

And the result seems quite opposite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1tYn-SkDA8

It is all plain and simple. Turkey was supporting the ISIS, the Al Nusra and its affiliates. They were also earning a lot of money, by selling the oil and the artifacts given to them by the ISIS pigs. When Russia started bombing the facatics, this source of revenue was cut off, and the goatfuckers decided to retaliate against it.

https://www.rt.com/politics/323979-kadyrov-blames-turkey-for-executing/

Kadyrov blames Turkey for executing ‘Western plan to destroy Muslim nations’

POINT: according to USA satellites etc it WAS in Turkey's air space. Even if you are correct and such, I still state if the circumstances were reversed ..Russia would not apologize to Turkey for such.....but again because Turkey is a less powerful country and the Russian Plane (like previous incidents) was in or too close to Turkey air space and such happened ...again it would be NON ISSUE on an Apology..if the roles were reversed..heh ...no way in hell Russia would apologize to Turkey for shooting down a plane that was (or they thought was) in Russian Air Space.

The Russian's played fast and loose on the Turkish border ..freaked Turkey out from previous warnings....and did what any country would do ...shot the plane down.

But again my point is Russia would never apologize if it thought it was in the right..to expect Turkey to do so is dumb imho....just posturing....and even more dire if the Russian's really were in Turkey Air Space and 'assumed' they would not get shot down...not that would be embarrassing as hell .thus all the posturing on the Russian side imho...

anyway to clarify my point on the previous post

Thank you man!
I am searching about that statement but it didn't come to my mind )

Erdogan and Ankara still refuses to apologize for its mistake of shooting down a Russian plane while it's still over Syrian space. Ankara claims its duty to protect its country. But the Russian plane was not even in their country's airspace! It's useless to deal with stubborn parties.

So many excuses and instances brought up but none pertains to shooting down the Russian plane while it wasn't in Turkey's airspace. Radical Muslims and Turks alike will never admit their mistakes. Reason to bomb them to kingdom come, if at all possible. And NATO just keeps mum.

Well I don't get why Russia is upset...a modern Turkish Jet flying into Russian air space would be shot down without an apology imho .in fact probably most would be surprised if such was the case after the fact ..mostly Russian response would be "no comment"...Russia would be like FU Turkey.

But because they are a big world power ..they tried to do wtf they wanted in Turkish Air Space and now got burned and are 'embarrassed" are now tossing weight around imho

But a thread asking for Russia to do the same as they expect Turkey to do now (ie apologise) lol ..hell the would be so unlikely and equivalent thread as such would not have even passed the OP's mind

just saying....the way it looks to me if it was the other way around

I remember a quote stated by Sir Putin.

   “To Forgive terrorists is up to God, to send them to him is up to me.”

And i think this means a lot to all the nations concern