Turkish Super League & 1. League 2021/22 Season - page 21.

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Quote from: karabiber on March 26, 2022, 05:11:43 AM

It has been explained why Mesut Özil who was excluded from the squad last week was left out. Accordingly Özil threw his shoes on the floor in the dressing room and cursed İsmail Kartal. Dealing with the ego of a star football player is really difficult. If what has been done is correct it is extremely correct that Fenerbahce Club excluded Özil from the squad. The club has no time to deal with anyone's ego. Discrimination cannot be made.

Fenerbahçe has a young and talented player like Arda Güler. It's a good move that they gave up on Mesut Özil. Crespo also performs well. Ozan Tufan is also unnecessary now. They are planning for the coming years by getting rid of high paid players. Mesut Özil earns 3.9 million EUR per year. Ozan Tufan earns 1 million EUR per year.

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It has been explained why Mesut Özil who was excluded from the squad last week was left out. Accordingly Özil threw his shoes on the floor in the dressing room and cursed İsmail Kartal. Dealing with the ego of a star football player is really difficult. If what has been done is correct it is extremely correct that Fenerbahce Club excluded Özil from the squad. The club has no time to deal with anyone's ego. Discrimination cannot be made.

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Quote from: ingiltere on March 25, 2022, 10:54:57 AM

I still have mixed feelings about Valérien Ismaël. As a manager he's not much experienced and the most important thing is his formation don't fit Beşiktaş. We never play like Conte or Simeone's clubs. We always have the ball control, attack and play with four defenders. He uses three defenders and more defensive game play. I don't know how that work out in Turkish league.
He didn't train same club for more than a year, that's another questionable thing about him. I hope he will be successful in Beşiktaş.

Valérien Ismaël is surely an interested move by Besiktas because as you already mention he never complete a season at any club and his record is also not good enough with his last assignment was with WBA in English Championship where he stays just eight months and now joining this Turkish Elite club which is having some problems in this season with their performance currently at 8th position with chance of having some better spot.

But for me, it has never been idea deal for Besiktas because they need someone who can handle this position for long term and bring back this club at better spot with their quality and performance which is currently not working for them but still best wishes for this new manager as well because maybe we have some better results from him here at Besiktas.

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I still have mixed feelings about Valérien Ismaël. As a manager he's not much experienced and the most important thing is his formation don't fit Beşiktaş. We never play like Conte or Simeone's clubs. We always have the ball control, attack and play with four defenders. He uses three defenders and more defensive game play. I don't know how that work out in Turkish league.
He didn't train same club for more than a year, that's another questionable thing about him. I hope he will be successful in Beşiktaş.

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Fenerbahce officially declared that Mesut Ozil and Ozan Tufan is out of the roster right now. They took that small break and left the nation and just had fun, which was seen as unprofessional I guess. Whatever the reason was, it is a good deal because they were never really good and they never provided 100% they had to the game.

I get that they both could be looking like a good star level player for a club like Fener, but if you are a star that sits down and not works, versus some 16 year old kid comes out and suddenly outworks you, that kid deserves to be playing more than you do. I believe this will result with Fener becoming second, because everyone who stays will be afraid and will work harder.

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Fenerbahce is in great form now. They are unbeaten in the last 6 matches. Also their gameplay has improved. If they had been in that form at the start of the season, they would undoubtedly have claimed the title this season. Then I would say their defense is still weak enough. If they can add an experienced defender to the squad next season, they will be more stable and will fight for the title.

I think they are playing well in the last matches, their opponents were always strong teams in the last matches. They have not lost even in the teams with the most claims this year

They played against teams such as Konyaspor, Alanyaspor, Trabzonspor and they will now play against weaker opponents in the following matches and earn more points

At a certain point they just found their rhythm and they have been playing well. Sometimes a team needs to click properly to make it work, even if you play the same roster and same tactic, things could change all of a sudden because team realizes how to play together better and better each game. It's experience.

The oldest problem Turkish teams always had that they barely ever played with the same eleven for years, even having like 8 players who are the same players for 5 years is something we do not see that often. This is why it took fener to get better this long, because they are not a team that gets all that much time together with the same 11 playing.

I agree with your opinion, new players come every year and old players are transferred to other teams. Many fans can't even keep track of whether a player in the team has left, and the roster is renewed every year Cheesy

Therefore, it is not easy to achieve success in the team. This is true for all teams, unfortunately, players cannot get used to playing with each other

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fenerbahce istanbul has kicked world champion Mesut Özil and returner Ozan Tufan out of its squad indefinitely Shocked

there is a very concise statement of the istanbul traditional club, which also raises many questions in turkish media. M. Özil and Ozan Tufan were "excluded from the squad by decision" - indefinitely. the third-placed team in the turkish süper league did not give any reasons for this decision...

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Quote from: LGD2Business on March 23, 2022, 05:07:30 PM

We know that normally Anatolian teams fall towards the end of the league. There is such a fact historically. Konyaspor also has this problem. Of course, the death of their players has affected the team, but I don't think this is the only and the most important reason.
As for the second place issue, there are 8 matches that have not been played yet, which means 24 points to be collected. It's hard to predict right now, all teams in the top 8 have a chance to place 2nd at the end of the season.

Yeah I still remember when Sivasspor was leading the league and dropped behind quickly. I also remember when Başakşehir was leading once and also couldn't become champion in last matches. This is sort of changing in later years as bigger clubs are performing far worse than they did in past. But in my opinion you will be right Konyaspor will quickly lose motivation and momentum when Fenerbahçe reaches their points.

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Quote from: Tony116 on March 23, 2022, 07:22:13 PM

Even though they did start the season badly they have made a good come back and now they are in third place in the league standings. and I believe if they keep playing like this there will make more improvements and finish the season being at least in the second place. They did prove themselves against the team in the second place. now they have to prove that they are worth being in second place in the league.

this will still happen considering that their gap is quite close even though it is indeed too difficult to catch up with the current leader of the standings.
But on the other hand, for a pretty bad start, I think position 2 is actually quite good to be in the end because indeed their opportunity is still quite open in this case.
I'm still pretty sure they will be in the runners up even though Konyaspor is still pretty good but if you look at the results of the current match it looks like Konyaspor is starting to experience a decline in performance

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Quote from: LGD2Business on March 23, 2022, 05:07:30 PM

We know that normally Anatolian teams fall towards the end of the league. There is such a fact historically. Konyaspor also has this problem. Of course, the death of their players has affected the team, but I don't think this is the only and the most important reason.
As for the second place issue, there are 8 matches that have not been played yet, which means 24 points to be collected. It's hard to predict right now, all teams in the top 8 have a chance to place 2nd at the end of the season.

Maybe for the second position there are still 8 teams that can compete for the second position until the end of the season, but for the third and fourth positions maybe Galatasaray still has a chance to get the fourth position at the end of the season, even though for now Galatasaray is still ranked 15th in the standings, but Galatasaray already collected 38 points, only 11 points behind alanyaspor from 4th in the standings, every match may be like a final for all clubs, because their point difference is not far apart. it will be interesting to see which club only managed to finish second, third and fourth at the end of the competition.

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Fenerbahce is in great form now. They are unbeaten in the last 6 matches. Also their gameplay has improved. If they had been in that form at the start of the season, they would undoubtedly have claimed the title this season. Then I would say their defense is still weak enough. If they can add an experienced defender to the squad next season, they will be more stable and will fight for the title.

I think they are playing well in the last matches, their opponents were always strong teams in the last matches. They have not lost even in the teams with the most claims this year

They played against teams such as Konyaspor, Alanyaspor, Trabzonspor and they will now play against weaker opponents in the following matches and earn more points

Fenerbahce started the season very badly, they dropped a lot of points in the early matches of the season, although at the moment they have been playing very well and consistently to continue to win but they will not be able to catch up to Trabzonspor who are at the top of the table by a very large points difference .
It's true that Fenerbahce's defense is very weak, even from the wins they have won in the last 5 matches, 4 of them have always conceded.
Fenerbahce's win in the last match against Konyaspor I think is extraordinary, after they fell 1 goal down in the first half they came back in the second half and scored 2 goals to decide the win.

Even though they did start the season badly they have made a good come back and now they are in third place in the league standings. and I believe if they keep playing like this there will make more improvements and finish the season being at least in the second place. They did prove themselves against the team in the second place. now they have to prove that they are worth being in second place in the league.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on March 23, 2022, 03:56:38 PM

Quote from: Pierre 2 on March 23, 2022, 03:36:51 PM

Fenerbahçe became far better lately in league. I read funny news lately saying Fenerbahçe wins everytime Ali Koç (current president) stops watching match and go away. If That's some kind of trend Ali Koç is really bad luck for Fenerbahçe. Anyways I feel like Fenerbahçe will finish league at 2nd place this season, they will keep getting more victories next weeks. Konya is not gonna stay there.

Konyaspor have bad performance recently weeks. Konyaspor's footballers can not focus league ever since died Ahmet Çalık. This is so big tragedy whole team. You are totaly right. Fenerbahçe has got 16 points in the last 6 matches. They have amazing mood. İsmail Kartal made things better for Fenerbahçe. They will finish league at 2nd place this season and they will tourney Europe tournements next year.

Fenerbahce seems like they are playing Really well at the moment because in the last five matches they have four matches in their favor and one draw. They have played really well in this portion of the season.
I think this form is going to carry forward for them and they are going to have better results in the future also.

On the other hand, Konyaspor is not doing that good currently because in their last five matches they have two wins and three losses. That has certainly made them fall behind the first-place team in the league. and that has also allowed Fenerbahce to get close to them. Now there is on the two points of difference between them.

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We know that normally Anatolian teams fall towards the end of the league. There is such a fact historically. Konyaspor also has this problem. Of course, the death of their players has affected the team, but I don't think this is the only and the most important reason.
As for the second place issue, there are 8 matches that have not been played yet, which means 24 points to be collected. It's hard to predict right now, all teams in the top 8 have a chance to place 2nd at the end of the season.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on March 23, 2022, 03:36:51 PM

Fenerbahçe became far better lately in league. I read funny news lately saying Fenerbahçe wins everytime Ali Koç (current president) stops watching match and go away. If That's some kind of trend Ali Koç is really bad luck for Fenerbahçe. Anyways I feel like Fenerbahçe will finish league at 2nd place this season, they will keep getting more victories next weeks. Konya is not gonna stay there.

Konyaspor have bad performance recently weeks. Konyaspor's footballers can not focus league ever since died Ahmet Çalık. This is so big tragedy whole team. You are totaly right. Fenerbahçe has got 16 points in the last 6 matches. They have amazing mood. İsmail Kartal made things better for Fenerbahçe. They will finish league at 2nd place this season and they will tourney Europe tournements next year.

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Fenerbahce is in great form now. They are unbeaten in the last 6 matches. Also their gameplay has improved. If they had been in that form at the start of the season, they would undoubtedly have claimed the title this season. Then I would say their defense is still weak enough. If they can add an experienced defender to the squad next season, they will be more stable and will fight for the title.

I think they are playing well in the last matches, their opponents were always strong teams in the last matches. They have not lost even in the teams with the most claims this year

They played against teams such as Konyaspor, Alanyaspor, Trabzonspor and they will now play against weaker opponents in the following matches and earn more points

At a certain point they just found their rhythm and they have been playing well. Sometimes a team needs to click properly to make it work, even if you play the same roster and same tactic, things could change all of a sudden because team realizes how to play together better and better each game. It's experience.

The oldest problem Turkish teams always had that they barely ever played with the same eleven for years, even having like 8 players who are the same players for 5 years is something we do not see that often. This is why it took fener to get better this long, because they are not a team that gets all that much time together with the same 11 playing.

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Fenerbahçe became far better lately in league. I read funny news lately saying Fenerbahçe wins everytime Ali Koç (current president) stops watching match and go away. If That's some kind of trend Ali Koç is really bad luck for Fenerbahçe. Anyways I feel like Fenerbahçe will finish league at 2nd place this season, they will keep getting more victories next weeks. Konya is not gonna stay there.

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It is so frustrating to watch GS these days. It gives you hope one day, then crashes it the next day. I mean we are talking about beating BJK which we all know a good team, then having a tie with Barcelona, and get ahead on the next game only to lose 2-1, and then Gaziantep out of all teams beats you so easily. This team really is a stressful team to watch this year. I should be glad to be a fan, we have more championships in the league, more turkish cups, more super cups, and more european success, overall statistically the most successful team in the nation when you look at it, but this year doesn't show that at all!

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I really like the way Fenerbahce have improved themselves a lot. Their performance on the recent weeks has been delightful to me. And they played a crucial game for themselves the last time against Konyaspor. They had to win the game to catch up with their opponent much more. And they did it by showing an incredible performance. Their supporters have already started feeling the old Fenerbahce spirit in this game. And there is only a gap of two points between Fenerbahce and Konyaspor in the standings.

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Quote from: Fakhrulenclix on March 23, 2022, 07:30:31 AM

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Fenerbahce is in great form now. They are unbeaten in the last 6 matches. Also their gameplay has improved. If they had been in that form at the start of the season, they would undoubtedly have claimed the title this season. Then I would say their defense is still weak enough. If they can add an experienced defender to the squad next season, they will be more stable and will fight for the title.

I think they are playing well in the last matches, their opponents were always strong teams in the last matches. They have not lost even in the teams with the most claims this year

They played against teams such as Konyaspor, Alanyaspor, Trabzonspor and they will now play against weaker opponents in the following matches and earn more points

Fenerbahce started the season very badly, they dropped a lot of points in the early matches of the season, although at the moment they have been playing very well and consistently to continue to win but they will not be able to catch up to Trabzonspor who are at the top of the table by a very large points difference .
It's true that Fenerbahce's defense is very weak, even from the wins they have won in the last 5 matches, 4 of them have always conceded.
Fenerbahce's win in the last match against Konyaspor I think is extraordinary, after they fell 1 goal down in the first half they came back in the second half and scored 2 goals to decide the win.

But maybe for now they are much better than before.
The first position they have to give up now and indeed this is quite reasonable because the difference in points is quite large at this time. But they still have to keep fighting in my opinion because even 2nd place doesn't really matter and they now have a big chance for that considering the current point difference with Konyaspor is not too far

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Quote from: hollandalibaykus on March 23, 2022, 02:19:15 AM

Quote from: CryptoBuds on March 22, 2022, 01:58:59 PM

Fenerbahce is in great form now. They are unbeaten in the last 6 matches. Also their gameplay has improved. If they had been in that form at the start of the season, they would undoubtedly have claimed the title this season. Then I would say their defense is still weak enough. If they can add an experienced defender to the squad next season, they will be more stable and will fight for the title.

I think they are playing well in the last matches, their opponents were always strong teams in the last matches. They have not lost even in the teams with the most claims this year

They played against teams such as Konyaspor, Alanyaspor, Trabzonspor and they will now play against weaker opponents in the following matches and earn more points

Fenerbahce started the season very badly, they dropped a lot of points in the early matches of the season, although at the moment they have been playing very well and consistently to continue to win but they will not be able to catch up to Trabzonspor who are at the top of the table by a very large points difference .
It's true that Fenerbahce's defense is very weak, even from the wins they have won in the last 5 matches, 4 of them have always conceded.
Fenerbahce's win in the last match against Konyaspor I think is extraordinary, after they fell 1 goal down in the first half they came back in the second half and scored 2 goals to decide the win.

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