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Quote from: Gencecikmen on March 22, 2022, 09:04:10 AM

I agree with you. Galatasaray should try another formation to be able to rise from adversity. For example; Galatasaray should try on the 3-4-3 formation. Also, the coach must rely on youth footballer and he should try in the field them.

The main problem of the team right now is believing. No player is on the field to win, there is no player who seems to play willingly.
So the formation change may not work as well. The team still doesn't get along well with the coach, and the coach doesn't seem to know enough about the team and the league.

There are very talented young football players, but they cannot show themselves on the field. I don't think this situation will change next year

I agree with you. When the torrent first come, he said: "The players don't believe in themselves and their teammates. They have to believe that they are good players." The coach have to learn enough about the team and the league because He came to Istanbul two and a half months ago. Two and a half months is not a short time.

You are definitely right. He should now have enough experiences with these players already if he is good manager. But main problem is inconstency with manager as well. I mean who can be very sure if Torrent is gonna stay with team next year? Board of bigger Turkish clubs can easily change their minds and dump their managers couple of times in 3-4 months. I feel like he may be replaced too.

I agrre with you. Board is so unpatient. Board dont give time enough their coach in Turkey. I have a feeling board will expel Torrent. But Board of Galatasaray will change. There will be a new selection very soon in Galatasaray. Fans and members of Galatasaray want a new president and board. I feel like Burak Elmas and his friends may be replaced.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on March 22, 2022, 02:58:59 PM

Fenerbahce is in great form now. They are unbeaten in the last 6 matches. Also their gameplay has improved. If they had been in that form at the start of the season, they would undoubtedly have claimed the title this season. Then I would say their defense is still weak enough. If they can add an experienced defender to the squad next season, they will be more stable and will fight for the title.

I think they are playing well in the last matches, their opponents were always strong teams in the last matches. They have not lost even in the teams with the most claims this year

They played against teams such as Konyaspor, Alanyaspor, Trabzonspor and they will now play against weaker opponents in the following matches and earn more points

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on March 22, 2022, 06:24:50 PM

Quote from: xzone on March 22, 2022, 12:35:03 PM

Quote from: Gencecikmen on March 22, 2022, 09:04:10 AM

I agree with you. Galatasaray should try another formation to be able to rise from adversity. For example; Galatasaray should try on the 3-4-3 formation. Also, the coach must rely on youth footballer and he should try in the field them.

The main problem of the team right now is believing. No player is on the field to win, there is no player who seems to play willingly.
So the formation change may not work as well. The team still doesn't get along well with the coach, and the coach doesn't seem to know enough about the team and the league.

There are very talented young football players, but they cannot show themselves on the field. I don't think this situation will change next year

I agree with you. When the torrent first come, he said: "The players don't believe in themselves and their teammates. They have to believe that they are good players." The coach have to learn enough about the team and the league because He came to Istanbul two and a half months ago. Two and a half months is not a short time.

You are definitely right. He should now have enough experiences with these players already if he is good manager. But main problem is inconstency with manager as well. I mean who can be very sure if Torrent is gonna stay with team next year? Board of bigger Turkish clubs can easily change their minds and dump their managers couple of times in 3-4 months. I feel like he may be replaced too.

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Quote from: xzone on March 22, 2022, 12:35:03 PM

Quote from: Gencecikmen on March 22, 2022, 09:04:10 AM

I agree with you. Galatasaray should try another formation to be able to rise from adversity. For example; Galatasaray should try on the 3-4-3 formation. Also, the coach must rely on youth footballer and he should try in the field them.

The main problem of the team right now is believing. No player is on the field to win, there is no player who seems to play willingly.
So the formation change may not work as well. The team still doesn't get along well with the coach, and the coach doesn't seem to know enough about the team and the league.

There are very talented young football players, but they cannot show themselves on the field. I don't think this situation will change next year

I agree with you. When the torrent first come, he said: "The players don't believe in themselves and their teammates. They have to believe that they are good players." The coach have to learn enough about the team and the league because He came to Istanbul two and a half months ago. Two and a half months is not a short time.

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Quote from: minairia3 on March 22, 2022, 03:51:32 PM

Fenerbahce is playing great right now and the great thing is is they have not lost one match in the last five. and there is only one draw in the last five matches.

It is very possible for them to achieve second place in the league standings. if they keep playing like this I think it is just a matter of time before there do that. And the team in the second place having a few bad games in the recent past has certainly allowed this situation to arise.

Currently, Fenerbahçe is top in form, and they lost only one match from their ten games which is very good performance from them even still it's not easy for them to achieve second spot but with current form we can expect something good from them because Konyaspor suddenly losing their grip and performance, and they lost three matches which mean they already lost their nine points and these are very helpful for Fenerbahçe for having strong case for second spot with just eight games remaining in this season.

Now they need to think about few weak points as well because they have good time ahead so bringing some good quality players can help them for next season with most chances they will go for Champions League qualification.

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Quote from: hahay on March 22, 2022, 12:46:23 PM

I think whatever formation is used, Galatasaray are basically still playing the same players. But somehow, Galatasaray this season has been great in the Europa League stage but very bad in the local league. Basically, the stage of the Europa League is where there are many great teams and also in the last 16 against Barcelona that Galatasaray can play very well even though the result is still a loss. But at least with the morale when playing in the Europa League they can apply it in the local league, at least to make their position safer in the standings. It wouldn't be funny if Galatasaray were relegated in the end, because their current position is still very likely to continue to fall if they can't fix it soon.

Galatasaray can certainly be relegated this season if they keep on losing. But I also cannot understand the fact that the same team who is playing decent enough in the Europa League, is the same team that is on the verge of being relegated.

Duality of a team I guess Grin

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Anyway, Galatasaray really needs to do something special if they want to end this season in a respective place. But I don't think they are going to be able to do that. the best thing for them is going to somehow avoid the relegation right now and Concentrate on what is going wrong in their gameplay.

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Fenerbahce is in great form now. They are unbeaten in the last 6 matches. Also their gameplay has improved. If they had been in that form at the start of the season, they would undoubtedly have claimed the title this season. Then I would say their defense is still weak enough. If they can add an experienced defender to the squad next season, they will be more stable and will fight for the title.

Fenerbahce is playing great right now and the great thing is is they have not lost one match in the last five. and there is only one draw in the last five matches.

It is very possible for them to achieve second place in the league standings. if they keep playing like this I think it is just a matter of time before there do that. And the team in the second place having a few bad games in the recent past has certainly allowed this situation to arise.

Fenerbahce have a chance to sit in second place which is only a difference of 2 points at least Konyaspor will have to repeat mistake and again mistake to lose, a small possibility in my opinion because the next match is not vs a strong club this season, except for Besiktas which will be held in May. this club almost rendered konyaspor helpless only that luck was still on their side.

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Quote from: ropyu1978 on March 22, 2022, 03:21:24 AM

Actually, all Galatasaray players are good, even Galatasaray managed to dominate the game, but unfortunately they have lost a winning mentality, after they were defeated by Barca in the second leg of the European league, now they are playing less consistently, in my personal opinion torrent fonts should give encouragement to players and torrents font also have to change their game scheme, the coach must also change the formation of the game, in my opinion if the coach continues to rely on the 4-1-4-1 formation it is very difficult for Galatasarai to score goals, at least they should try another formation to be able to rise from adversity.

It is understandable during a year like this. They know that they will not be in European competitions next season, so they need to find a way to get better without really putting all of their players through next season. There are many that need other alternatives and we need to realize that they need a whole off-season with the manager helping them to get something.

Unfortunately for the Turkish teams that managers do not stay for too long. If a manager stays for 3-4 seasons and makes adjustments accordingly, it could get better, specially a manager like Torrent but unfortunately if he spends this off-season well and then next season he has a bad first 10 weeks, he will be fired as well. They just need to suffer a few seasons of bad results and then suddenly they can become a dominating power again.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on March 22, 2022, 02:58:59 PM

Fenerbahce is in great form now. They are unbeaten in the last 6 matches. Also their gameplay has improved. If they had been in that form at the start of the season, they would undoubtedly have claimed the title this season. Then I would say their defense is still weak enough. If they can add an experienced defender to the squad next season, they will be more stable and will fight for the title.

Fenerbahce is playing great right now and the great thing is is they have not lost one match in the last five. and there is only one draw in the last five matches.

It is very possible for them to achieve second place in the league standings. if they keep playing like this I think it is just a matter of time before there do that. And the team in the second place having a few bad games in the recent past has certainly allowed this situation to arise.

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The problematic condition of Galatasaray is really worrying for the team now. They gave their supporters hope after their performances against Barcelona and Besiktas. I also started to think that Galatasaray were going to start having a good winning streak as of then. But in the Gaziantep game, they were not good unfortunately. And it cost them a lot like losing the game by 3-1. Maybe they are at the 15th place now but they are nine points away from the relegation zone which is good for them. Hopefully they can start getting better soon.

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Fenerbahce is in great form now. They are unbeaten in the last 6 matches. Also their gameplay has improved. If they had been in that form at the start of the season, they would undoubtedly have claimed the title this season. Then I would say their defense is still weak enough. If they can add an experienced defender to the squad next season, they will be more stable and will fight for the title.

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Quote from: ropyu1978 on March 22, 2022, 03:21:24 AM

Actually, all Galatasaray players are good, even Galatasaray managed to dominate the game, but unfortunately they have lost a winning mentality, after they were defeated by Barca in the second leg of the European league, now they are playing less consistently, in my personal opinion torrent fonts should give encouragement to players and torrents font also have to change their game scheme, the coach must also change the formation of the game, in my opinion if the coach continues to rely on the 4-1-4-1 formation it is very difficult for Galatasarai to score goals, at least they should try another formation to be able to rise from adversity.

what happened to Galatasaray where they were eliminated by Barcelona in the Europa league and also performed so badly in the Turkish super league where this morning they had to suffer a defeat to the host Gaziantep FK added to the long bad record of Domenec Torrent's team, which made they should be dropped to 15th position and their worst achievement in the Turkish super league this season, applying a 4-1-4-1 formation maybe if a mistake where modern football does not put one midfielder, but domenec torrent did it so that made Galatasaray so down this season,

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Quote from: ropyu1978 on March 22, 2022, 03:21:24 AM

Actually, all Galatasaray players are good, even Galatasaray managed to dominate the game, but unfortunately they have lost a winning mentality, after they were defeated by Barca in the second leg of the European league, now they are playing less consistently, in my personal opinion torrent fonts should give encouragement to players and torrents font also have to change their game scheme, the coach must also change the formation of the game, in my opinion if the coach continues to rely on the 4-1-4-1 formation it is very difficult for Galatasarai to score goals, at least they should try another formation to be able to rise from adversity.

They are still in the shadows. Their performance was quite good but indeed they are still confused in finishing and in my opinion for ball possession they have a bit more advantage but that is not enough.
They failed in finishing so it was too late to cut back to keep the opponent moving for the counter-attack.
On the other hand Gazisehir is good at taking advantage of this situation and the aftermath is to their advantage

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I think whatever formation is used, Galatasaray are basically still playing the same players. But somehow, Galatasaray this season has been great in the Europa League stage but very bad in the local league. Basically, the stage of the Europa League is where there are many great teams and also in the last 16 against Barcelona that Galatasaray can play very well even though the result is still a loss. But at least with the morale when playing in the Europa League they can apply it in the local league, at least to make their position safer in the standings. It wouldn't be funny if Galatasaray were relegated in the end, because their current position is still very likely to continue to fall if they can't fix it soon.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on March 22, 2022, 09:04:10 AM

I agree with you. Galatasaray should try another formation to be able to rise from adversity. For example; Galatasaray should try on the 3-4-3 formation. Also, the coach must rely on youth footballer and he should try in the field them.

The main problem of the team right now is believing. No player is on the field to win, there is no player who seems to play willingly.
So the formation change may not work as well. The team still doesn't get along well with the coach, and the coach doesn't seem to know enough about the team and the league.

There are very talented young football players, but they cannot show themselves on the field. I don't think this situation will change next year

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Quote from: ropyu1978 on March 22, 2022, 03:21:24 AM

Actually, all Galatasaray players are good, even Galatasaray managed to dominate the game, but unfortunately they have lost a winning mentality, after they were defeated by Barca in the second leg of the European league, now they are playing less consistently, in my personal opinion torrent fonts should give encouragement to players and torrents font also have to change their game scheme, the coach must also change the formation of the game, in my opinion if the coach continues to rely on the 4-1-4-1 formation it is very difficult for Galatasarai to score goals, at least they should try another formation to be able to rise from adversity.

Torrent doesn't have much to do in Galatasaray. Their aim is to finish this year in a good place and go to the European cups next year. It is very interesting that a team that can only take one defeat in the European cup and almost eliminate Barcelona is so bad in the league. They are still updating. They have to somehow get themselves together and change this bad order. These results are unacceptable for a team that wants a championship.

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Galatasaray made me surprise this time as I was expecting them to perform better against Gaziantep. It seems like Galatasaray was only motivated to survive in league, nothing more, Barcelona Match was seen big enough for players but Gaziantep Match wasn't. It is obvious Galatasaray should dump most of these players as they are not worth to play in such big club in my opinion.

What did you expect? They have not played well in any game since the beginning of the league. It would be absurd to expect them to give high performance in the league where they remained untargeted after this time. There was at least one goal in European matches. There is no difference between finishing 5th and 15th in the league, except for a very small amount of prize money.
You can't motivate players that way. Everyone is already on vacation mentally. Even if the league is over, they are playing in the mood to go. The plans for the next season are being made in the head.

This is totally right. Galatasaray was not only tired from the intense euro games against Barcelona, but also they have almost zero motivation after those games. As it was stated, 5th and 15th place is almost same. Their almost only motivation is the derby games from now on, we can say. I'm also sure almost all of them is in the vacation/laziness mode. I am expecting very few wins for Galatasaray from now on in my betting.
Other than Fenerbahce game, they only have Basaksehir game left for Istanbul teams. Others are relatively unimportant Anatolian club games.

Galatasaray is hopeless in the league this season because they have exhausted all their resources in the Europa League. Now I think the only goal for Galatasaray is going to be staying out of the relegation zone. But only one when can boost them up to multiple spots in the standings.

Trabzonspor is winning the league and there is no doubt about that. Actual competition starts from the second position.

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Quote from: ropyu1978 on March 22, 2022, 03:21:24 AM

Actually, all Galatasaray players are good, even Galatasaray managed to dominate the game, but unfortunately they have lost a winning mentality, after they were defeated by Barca in the second leg of the European league, now they are playing less consistently, in my personal opinion torrent fonts should give encouragement to players and torrents font also have to change their game scheme, the coach must also change the formation of the game, in my opinion if the coach continues to rely on the 4-1-4-1 formation it is very difficult for Galatasarai to score goals, at least they should try another formation to be able to rise from adversity.

I agree with you. Galatasaray should try another formation to be able to rise from adversity. For example; Galatasaray should try on the 3-4-3 formation. Also, the coach must rely on youth footballer and he should try in the field them.

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Actually, all Galatasaray players are good, even Galatasaray managed to dominate the game, but unfortunately they have lost a winning mentality, after they were defeated by Barca in the second leg of the European league, now they are playing less consistently, in my personal opinion torrent fonts should give encouragement to players and torrents font also have to change their game scheme, the coach must also change the formation of the game, in my opinion if the coach continues to rely on the 4-1-4-1 formation it is very difficult for Galatasarai to score goals, at least they should try another formation to be able to rise from adversity.

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Quote from: püsür on March 21, 2022, 01:06:06 PM

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on March 21, 2022, 06:25:30 AM

Galatasaray made me surprise this time as I was expecting them to perform better against Gaziantep. It seems like Galatasaray was only motivated to survive in league, nothing more, Barcelona Match was seen big enough for players but Gaziantep Match wasn't. It is obvious Galatasaray should dump most of these players as they are not worth to play in such big club in my opinion.

What did you expect? They have not played well in any game since the beginning of the league. It would be absurd to expect them to give high performance in the league where they remained untargeted after this time. There was at least one goal in European matches. There is no difference between finishing 5th and 15th in the league, except for a very small amount of prize money.
You can't motivate players that way. Everyone is already on vacation mentally. Even if the league is over, they are playing in the mood to go. The plans for the next season are being made in the head.

This is totally right. Galatasaray was not only tired from the intense euro games against Barcelona, but also they have almost zero motivation after those games. As it was stated, 5th and 15th place is almost same. Their almost only motivation is the derby games from now on, we can say. I'm also sure almost all of them is in the vacation/laziness mode. I am expecting very few wins for Galatasaray from now on in my betting.

Other than Fenerbahce game, they only have Basaksehir game left for Istanbul teams. Others are relatively unimportant Anatolian club games.

Well guys honestly speaking I didn't check how much prize money Turkish clubs get by TFF in league. I remember it being very low as they wanted to increase amount. Even though we all know Turkish lira is terrible and it won't make any difference. So I can understand why players don't care much. No better money and most of them will be sold away anyways at the end of this season.

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