Turkish Super League & 1. League 2021/22 Season - page 35.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on February 21, 2022, 06:22:01 PM

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on February 21, 2022, 11:21:36 AM

This week Fenerbahce won, Beşiktaş won and Trabzonspor won. Also Galatasaray match is today. And Galatasaray's rival Göztepe. If Galatasaray defeat to Göztepe, it is going to be so much dangerous for Galatasaray now.

Galatasaray still seems unable to decide on a less than good result for them.
The match is quite interesting how the 3 goals scored are the result of penalty kicks (2 penalties for Goztepe and 1 penalty for Galatasaray) this match seems to be going quite hard because there are so many violations there.
but with a result like this especially now that the game is over I think they need to get back to work hard because relegation is still threatening

Galatasaray again performed badly. But Galatasaray won 6 weeks later. This 3-point-win are so important for Galatasaray. Maybe more important than 3 points. The match is quite interesting how the 4 goals scored are the result of penalty kicks (2 penalties for Goztepe and 2 penalty for Galatasaray). Also Omar played again after 422 days.

The loss of the captain and goalkeeper there is still felt to this day and if you look at this is the worst season for them when compared to previous seasons.
I didn't watch this match until the end as I assumed it would be a draw but there was a mess that resulted in another Penalty for Galatasaray.
Luckily they got a penalty in the last minute of extra time because otherwise I'm quite pessimistic for them to secure the position

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Quote from: beerlover on February 22, 2022, 09:44:10 PM

Even though Basaksehir is not an Anatolian club (literally in Europe by geography Cheesy

) I think they are at that level as well. You have to understand that even during their worst periods, we have these big clubs making more money because of their fan count, they have a lot more jersey sales and ticket sales and make more money from TV rights and all that.

Galatasaray for example is doing soooo horrible this year, they are seriously screwed and even though they managed to beat Goztepe on the very last minute of the game, they are still bad and at the end of the day they will still make more money than most teams above them. There will be handful of teams that will make more money than them this season even though they are fighting to get out of relegation zone.

Galatasaray is a great club, Galasaray has always been a subscription to the champions league, but it's a shame that Galatasaray this year played so badly, they have played 26 matches they only collected 32 points, even now they are still ranked 13th in the temporary standings, this year they can already be in make sure Galatasaray will not be able to get a place in 4 standings at the end of the season..

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Even though Basaksehir is not an Anatolian club (literally in Europe by geography Cheesy

) I think they are at that level as well. You have to understand that even during their worst periods, we have these big clubs making more money because of their fan count, they have a lot more jersey sales and ticket sales and make more money from TV rights and all that.

Galatasaray for example is doing soooo horrible this year, they are seriously screwed and even though they managed to beat Goztepe on the very last minute of the game, they are still bad and at the end of the day they will still make more money than most teams above them. There will be handful of teams that will make more money than them this season even though they are fighting to get out of relegation zone.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on February 21, 2022, 04:45:10 PM

Quote from: beerlover on February 21, 2022, 04:21:03 PM

Both fenerbahce and besiktas are not that much far away from the European competition levels. Third and fourth is right there and they have a few point difference and I believe that there could be something that could be done about it for sure. I am not saying that it will happen but they should be aiming at least that much.

Rest assured, under normal conditions, they both finish third and fourth in the league. It is very clear that Adana Demir and Başakşehir will not stay there until the end. There are 12 more weeks until the league ends. In 5-6 weeks, big teams take the lead. They fell behind because they couldn't provide stability, but the end of the league is always different. Trabzon and Konya are very high, but it's not difficult to catch and pass the other teams for Beşiktaş and Fenerbahçe.

I completely agree with you, Anatolian teams are never sustained around top ranks in the league. They always go bad around mid of fixtures but when we go through end bigger teams of Istanbul ALWAYS go better. I think Beşiktaş and Fenerbahçe can secure 3rd and 4th ranks in upcoming weeks rather easily. But for Galatasaray I don't think it is possible anymore. Galatasaray made emergency transfers only to stay in league far away from lower parts of table.

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Quote from: izsara on February 21, 2022, 02:54:01 PM

Quote from: Gencecikmen on February 21, 2022, 11:21:36 AM

This week Fenerbahce won, Beşiktaş won and Trabzonspor won. Also Galatasaray match is today. And Galatasaray's rival Göztepe. If Galatasaray defeat to Göztepe, it is going to be so much dangerous for Galatasaray now.

Galatasaray still seems unable to decide on a less than good result for them.
The match is quite interesting how the 3 goals scored are the result of penalty kicks (2 penalties for Goztepe and 1 penalty for Galatasaray) this match seems to be going quite hard because there are so many violations there.
but with a result like this especially now that the game is over I think they need to get back to work hard because relegation is still threatening

Galatasaray again performed badly. But Galatasaray won 6 weeks later. This 3-point-win are so important for Galatasaray. Maybe more important than 3 points. The match is quite interesting how the 4 goals scored are the result of penalty kicks (2 penalties for Goztepe and 2 penalty for Galatasaray). Also Omar played again after 422 days.

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Quote from: beerlover on February 21, 2022, 04:21:03 PM

Both fenerbahce and besiktas are not that much far away from the European competition levels. Third and fourth is right there and they have a few point difference and I believe that there could be something that could be done about it for sure. I am not saying that it will happen but they should be aiming at least that much.

Rest assured, under normal conditions, they both finish third and fourth in the league. It is very clear that Adana Demir and Başakşehir will not stay there until the end. There are 12 more weeks until the league ends. In 5-6 weeks, big teams take the lead. They fell behind because they couldn't provide stability, but the end of the league is always different. Trabzon and Konya are very high, but it's not difficult to catch and pass the other teams for Beşiktaş and Fenerbahçe.

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Galatasaray again couldn't perform so good, regardless of the win. It was a crazy game about the penalties. Referee gave one of the penalties and then cancelled it, that was crazy. Göztepe played better than I expected. They found some good positions to score but couldn't finish it. They seem like not a bad team and the league and the country definitely need teams from Izmir. I hope they will stay in the Super League.

I believe nobody could have predicted this many penalties. The betting for that must be unbelievable.

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Both fenerbahce and besiktas are not that much far away from the European competition levels. Third and fourth is right there and they have a few point difference and I believe that there could be something that could be done about it for sure. I am not saying that it will happen but they should be aiming at least that much.

Right now, it is Adana demirspor and Basaksehir there and we know how one of them did, and we know the other one wouldn't be really that great as well. Bigger clubs could at least spend a bit more money and could get a bit better results. It's not a given, we have seen them get eliminated right away plenty of times as well, if that will be the case then they may as well not even go.

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It's a shame for Göztepe. While the value of the league is decreasing day by day, these funny decisions are cooling the fans from the matches. Who pays to watch this league? There are silly decisions in games that cannot be watched if you give them for free, there is theater on the field, not football. A few big names determine the fate of the league. They even had an effect on which team would be relegated and which team would stay in the league.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on February 21, 2022, 11:21:36 AM

This week Fenerbahce won, Beşiktaş won and Trabzonspor won. Also Galatasaray match is today. And Galatasaray's rival Göztepe. If Galatasaray defeat to Göztepe, it is going to be so much dangerous for Galatasaray now.

Galatasaray still seems unable to decide on a less than good result for them.
The match is quite interesting how the 3 goals scored are the result of penalty kicks (2 penalties for Goztepe and 1 penalty for Galatasaray) this match seems to be going quite hard because there are so many violations there.
but with a result like this especially now that the game is over I think they need to get back to work hard because relegation is still threatening

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on February 21, 2022, 11:21:36 AM

This week Fenerbahce won, Beşiktaş won and Trabzonspor won. Also Galatasaray match is today. And Galatasaray's rival Göztepe. If Galatasaray defeat to Göztepe, it is going to be so much dangerous for Galatasaray now.

Yes, in a week that all the major teams win, it would be another blow to galatasaray if they lose. And not only that, if Göztepe wins, they will have one point above Galatasaray in the standings. Galatasaray's morale will be at all time low, I think. Never in the recent history of the league, any one of the big three was this bad. Göztepe has a strong fanbase, they are going to affect the game in Göztepe's advantage. I am expecting at least a draw or Göztepe win.

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This week Fenerbahce won, Beşiktaş won and Trabzonspor won. Also Galatasaray match is today. And Galatasaray's rival Göztepe. If Galatasaray defeat to Göztepe, it is going to be so much dangerous for Galatasaray now.

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Antalyaspor sort of secured itself with win. Kasımpaşa hit same points with Galatasaray. It is going to be so much dangerous for Galatasaray now. Defeat means 16th rank and 16th means possibility to relegate. Team should not lose as we already discussed. Risky but draw bet might be okay.
also Başakşehir should beat Konya if they don't wanna be surpassed by Fenerbahçe.

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Quote from: mv1986 on February 20, 2022, 06:34:13 PM

Trabzonspor is so dominant right now, I wouldn't have expected them to actually become even stronger after the winter break, but this is what is the case right now. Konyaspor tied the game and now it starts becoming ridiculous. There isn't even any mental pressure for the Trabzonspor whatsoever anymore. Strong season, nothing to add.

Teams that play like lions against other teams suddenly become cats when playing with Trabzon. Today, we saw how Alanya fell behind with simple mistakes they made. There is no explanation for the 100% positions they missed. They gave an appearance of complete surrender. Nwakaeme and Cornelius show how much they want the championship. They play very passionate.

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Trabzonspor is so dominant right now, I wouldn't have expected them to actually become even stronger after the winter break, but this is what is the case right now. Konyaspor tied the game and now it starts becoming ridiculous. There isn't even any mental pressure for the Trabzonspor whatsoever anymore. Strong season, nothing to add.

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Quote from: püsür on February 20, 2022, 04:16:53 PM

Yes, the finishing problem is getting out of hand. Even against the weak opponents when Besiktas found easy positions, they couldn't manage to score the goal. That happened so many times. And also shots hitting the goal post, that happened so many times as well. There is something really going wrong about that. Something is bad for the training? Ok, Batshuayi is no Haaland or Ibrahimovic, but he seems like he is also much worse than before. For the next year, Besiktas definitely needs a better, more sharper striker to finish the positions.

If I remember correctly there were twenty four shots hit the post this season. Add almost two dozen uncalled penalties to that, Beşiktaş could've been at the top. This is one of the most dramatic seasons we've ever seen. Champion team lost their manager because of these. We are watching very unpleasant and noncompetitive season. This is last year of broadcasting rights, I think that connect with leagues current situation. There was a gap and they filled it just like they did two seasons ago due to covid.

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Quote from: ingiltere on February 20, 2022, 03:57:16 PM

Quote from: püsür on February 20, 2022, 02:26:45 PM

Besiktas managed to get the win but it was not easy. I don't even remember the last time they won easily and the fans watched a nice game at ease. Always a low score and always an intense ending. This time too, 90+4 minute Altay's position was crazy. It was almost a draw for the game. Nevertheless, Besiktas won and got a solid 3 points. Also, I don't remember this year that Besiktas got a goal from the corner kick (of course there might be but it is rare, therefor it can't come to my mind easily).

Everytime I see Atiba on the field, I can't believe it. It has been almost ten years. Let us see where Besiktas will finish this season.

I don't remember as well, this season we didn't score many goals from corners or free kicks. This was Vida's first goal, he usually scores four or five goals per season and that help Beşiktaş a lot. We didn't see that this season, this was first three points we get from Vida. Last six games Beşiktaş only score one goal per game, finishing problem continues. They should work that intensely in training.

Yes, the finishing problem is getting out of hand. Even against the weak opponents when Besiktas found easy positions, they couldn't manage to score the goal. That happened so many times. And also shots hitting the goal post, that happened so many times as well. There is something really going wrong about that. Something is bad for the training? Ok, Batshuayi is no Haaland or Ibrahimovic, but he seems like he is also much worse than before. For the next year, Besiktas definitely needs a better, more sharper striker to finish the positions.

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Quote from: püsür on February 20, 2022, 02:26:45 PM

Besiktas managed to get the win but it was not easy. I don't even remember the last time they won easily and the fans watched a nice game at ease. Always a low score and always an intense ending. This time too, 90+4 minute Altay's position was crazy. It was almost a draw for the game. Nevertheless, Besiktas won and got a solid 3 points. Also, I don't remember this year that Besiktas got a goal from the corner kick (of course there might be but it is rare, therefor it can't come to my mind easily).

Everytime I see Atiba on the field, I can't believe it. It has been almost ten years. Let us see where Besiktas will finish this season.

I don't remember as well, this season we didn't score many goals from corners or free kicks. This was Vida's first goal, he usually scores four or five goals per season and that help Beşiktaş a lot. We didn't see that this season, this was first three points we get from Vida. Last six games Beşiktaş only score one goal per game, finishing problem continues. They should work that intensely in training.

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Besiktas managed to get the win but it was not easy. I don't even remember the last time they won easily and the fans watched a nice game at ease. Always a low score and always an intense ending. This time too, 90+4 minute Altay's position was crazy. It was almost a draw for the game. Nevertheless, Besiktas won and got a solid 3 points. Also, I don't remember this year that Besiktas got a goal from the corner kick (of course there might be but it is rare, therefor it can't come to my mind easily).

Everytime I see Atiba on the field, I can't believe it. It has been almost ten years. Let us see where Besiktas will finish this season.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on February 19, 2022, 06:07:37 PM

There were so many positions in the match that the match could have ended 5-0, but Beşiktaş players again beat the posts. Penalties not awarded are now classics of the league. Getting three points with a single goal is also important in such a league. Beşiktaş won after three draws in a row. They showed that they are still in the race. Many players were missing, this result is fine. The next matches will be more difficult.

Well Besiktas continues to struggle in attack and they need some fresh new players in attack that can assist and score. Their crises is still so big in attack but they scored today and won and that is important for them and they continue to fight for europe but still need lots of wins to make it there.

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