Turkish Super League 2022/23 Season - page 53.

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Quote from: wiss19 on January 02, 2023, 01:53:33 PM

The league is between GS and FB right now no matter how it looks and even though there is a bit of a problem with referees as they end up saying many things to federation and causing a little bit of fire these days, it's clear that the winner is not decided yet, and one goal will not be the cause of the result.

If the league ended today and that goal was the main reason someone won then I would understand the uproar but we still have something like nearly 20 games to play, hence the winner is not decided yet but both teams are playing very very very well. I haven't seen both of them play this well for a long time, many years, it's a good thing for football fans.

We can say league is now between Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe. But I also agree with your statement, league being undecided yet. If we weren't gonna have transfer period I would safely bet on one of two. But Beşiktaş should never be underestimated, I feel like they don't have huge issues - their manager Şenol Güneş (who is generally overrated indeed) is not bad manager. Beşiktaş can close point difference in long run.

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In the first match of the day, Umraniyespor hosts Hatayspor. The match is 33 minutes and hatayspor is 1-0 ahead. Umraniyespor is playing with pressure and I think it will score if it continues this game. Umraniyespor has no chance to lose points at home. If they want to stay in the relegation zone, they should at least get points.
In 2 hours we will watch antalyaspor vs Fenerbahçe. It will be a difficult match for Fenerbahçe before the derby. A decisive win is needed for Fenerbahçe.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on January 03, 2023, 02:35:25 AM

Antalyaspor is having chronic issues with its defense line and midfielders. Chance creation of team is very weak even if Haji Wright is good striker/scorer. I believe Fenerbahçe will get very easy win tonight. It can be good bet to try your chance. Odd for Fenerbahçe win is 1.55 Better than nothing. Antalyaspor may try hard to get score 0-0 so 3.32 odd can be very risky but beneficial too. I would bet for Fenerbahçe.

I think Fenerbahce is seen better as a bet. Antalyaspor is a team that has chronic problems and deals with injuries. Although Hadji Wright does his bit, football is not a one-man game. Fenerbahce's defense is also not bad in the super league. I see him as the absolute favorite against Antalyaspor. If I were to bet, my option would be Fenerbahce wins.

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Antalyaspor is having chronic issues with its defense line and midfielders. Chance creation of team is very weak even if Haji Wright is good striker/scorer. I believe Fenerbahçe will get very easy win tonight. It can be good bet to try your chance. Odd for Fenerbahçe win is 1.55 Better than nothing. Antalyaspor may try hard to get score 0-0 so 3.32 odd can be very risky but beneficial too. I would bet for Fenerbahçe.

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Quote from: karabiber on January 02, 2023, 08:54:57 AM

Antalyaspor wants to catch a good series in the league. Nuri Şahin had a good season with Antalyaspor last season and this year it has not been a good start after the World Cup. They can make a good start by winning the Fenerbahçe match to get away from the relegation line in the league. Thus, Nuri Şahin can get rid of the pressure. Fenerbahce, on the other hand, experienced a shock with the defeat of Trabzonspor in the league, but easily passed Hatayspor at home with a score of 4-0. In the match to be played tomorrow, Antalyaspor cannot benefit from names such as Nakajima, Ndao and Ghacha due to injuries. Enner Valencia and Luan Peres in Fenerbahçe were not included in the squad for the Antalyaspor match due to their injuries. Antalyaspor's combative attitude and Fenerbahce's effectiveness in scoring goals shows that the match will be highly enjoyable. I expect a draw in the match.

Antalyaspor has got two back-to-back losses right now. There is no doubt that they need to improve their game if they are going to be able to have the kind of season that they are expecting. The last match they played against Istanbul ended in a loss for them, as I can see. As a result, they did not perform well and their opponent also managed to win the match pretty convincingly as well.

Currently, they are ranked 14th out of 19 teams. Neither have they performed well nor have they performed consistently so far. They will have to start playing more effectively if they want to finish the season on a high or even, they want to get closer to the top positions on the table.

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The league is between GS and FB right now no matter how it looks and even though there is a bit of a problem with referees as they end up saying many things to federation and causing a little bit of fire these days, it's clear that the winner is not decided yet, and one goal will not be the cause of the result.

If the league ended today and that goal was the main reason someone won then I would understand the uproar but we still have something like nearly 20 games to play, hence the winner is not decided yet but both teams are playing very very very well. I haven't seen both of them play this well for a long time, many years, it's a good thing for football fans.

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Quote from: karabiber on January 02, 2023, 08:54:57 AM

Antalyaspor wants to catch a good series in the league. Nuri Şahin had a good season with Antalyaspor last season and this year it has not been a good start after the World Cup. They can make a good start by winning the Fenerbahçe match to get away from the relegation line in the league. Thus, Nuri Şahin can get rid of the pressure. Fenerbahce, on the other hand, experienced a shock with the defeat of Trabzonspor in the league, but easily passed Hatayspor at home with a score of 4-0. In the match to be played tomorrow, Antalyaspor cannot benefit from names such as Nakajima, Ndao and Ghacha due to injuries. Enner Valencia and Luan Peres in Fenerbahçe were not included in the squad for the Antalyaspor match due to their injuries. Antalyaspor's combative attitude and Fenerbahce's effectiveness in scoring goals shows that the match will be highly enjoyable. I expect a draw in the match.

Yeah a lot of missing player from both sides and some important ones too, antalyaspor with two losses without scoring a goal, it seems that their best strategy is to not conceid goals and look for opportunity to surprise fenerbahce, i think this game might end in a draw but it will be hard since both teams need the win for different reasons.

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Quote from: Balmain on December 31, 2022, 02:40:01 PM

Galatasaray-Sivasspor match ended with problems, many fans found what happened strange. A lot of people have and didn't understand the referee's decision because there was no obvious reason. TFF made the decision,VAR referee Özgüç Türkalp will retire,Referee Erkan Özdamar will not be given a match until the end of the season. TFF should also make an obligation regarding the stadiums of the teams. Sivasspor field did not really have a suitable ground to play a match.

The referee's decision was indeed the subject of much debate. If you are a good referee to manage a match in the Super League, you have to be more careful in such positions. The VAR position review took 5 minutes. This was one of the longest reviewed positions in a game. It is clear that there is a communication gap between the referees. There were comments for the referees from Galatasaray and Sivasspor. The most criticized ones in Turkey are the referees. This remained the simplest example of why it was criticized.

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Antalyaspor wants to catch a good series in the league. Nuri Şahin had a good season with Antalyaspor last season and this year it has not been a good start after the World Cup. They can make a good start by winning the Fenerbahçe match to get away from the relegation line in the league. Thus, Nuri Şahin can get rid of the pressure. Fenerbahce, on the other hand, experienced a shock with the defeat of Trabzonspor in the league, but easily passed Hatayspor at home with a score of 4-0. In the match to be played tomorrow, Antalyaspor cannot benefit from names such as Nakajima, Ndao and Ghacha due to injuries. Enner Valencia and Luan Peres in Fenerbahçe were not included in the squad for the Antalyaspor match due to their injuries. Antalyaspor's combative attitude and Fenerbahce's effectiveness in scoring goals shows that the match will be highly enjoyable. I expect a draw in the match.

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This season the Super League championship is most likely to go on between Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray I believe.

Trabzonspor are already not in good condition at all. This performance level is not even close to the previous season one. They are complacent now after winning the league title after many years. Beşiktaş also won the title right before them. The title is needed for Galatasaray and especially Fenerbahçe the most. Grin

Because it has been even more time than Galatasaray's since Fenerbahçe became the champions the last time. It was in the 2013/14 season I mean. Jorge Jesus' system is really good for Fenerbahçe to make it this time. However he has been speculated with the manager job at Portugal national team. He wants this job really but let's see what happens.

Honestly Galatasaray has the best squad overall. Fenerbahçe was the best performing team until later weeks where they started to stall. I think Fenerbahçe midfielders are sort of better than Galatasaray. But Galatasaray has the best strikers in league. Beşiktaş ansd Başakşehir are close teams in squad quality in my opinion but both behind these 2, Fener and Galatasaray. I believe Galatasaray can win title if Okan Buruk can manage issues with defence, I feel like they need new player there, like far better than Nelson.

Galatasaray have the best forwards in the league, but they can't take advantage of them. Seferovic's contribution to the team is almost zero. Icardi has constantly struggled with injury problems. 37 years old Gomis saved us. Our best forwards have not contributed enough to the team so far. I hope some things change after that. Galatasaray constantly grappled with some problems, but eventually won the league's leadership. We are entering the new year as a leader and this gives us morale psychologically. I think it will be important to maintain this psychological superiority until the derby match. The winner of the derby match will gain a significant advantage. I think this game will determine a lot of things in the league.

Galatasaray has a chronic disease: To score 1-2 goals and not to continue. Galatasaray, which is constantly stressed after the opposing team scores 1 goal, often experiences this issue when they try to get ahead and turn the ball. This situation, which has been experienced more than I can count, puts a great stress on the players. Naturally, the opposing team has nothing to lose, so they constantly attack. If they coincide with another goal with a counterattack, galatasaray is relieved. Otherwise, they put themselves in trouble with the stress of losing points.

Every scenario is ready for galatasaray to lose points;
-The fans are waiting for the difference.
-players load unnecessary self-confidence.
-There has been a perception against gsin the media for a week.
-There are many injured and suspended football players.
All the matches before the derby will be difficult. When you add these up, let's not be surprised if the next match end in draw.

It is %100 manager issue. Okan Buruk is dumb about how to play defensive football. He just stops team from playing ball when he leads. But instead ball possession is literally given away to opponent. How can they score when they just keep staying behind of ball?
Especially central midfielders of Galatasaray lack certain defensive skills (I don't like Torreira). I think Galatasaray could easily win title if they had better manager and 1 more cdm guy who is talented.

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This season the Super League championship is most likely to go on between Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray I believe.

Trabzonspor are already not in good condition at all. This performance level is not even close to the previous season one. They are complacent now after winning the league title after many years. Beşiktaş also won the title right before them. The title is needed for Galatasaray and especially Fenerbahçe the most. Grin

Because it has been even more time than Galatasaray's since Fenerbahçe became the champions the last time. It was in the 2013/14 season I mean. Jorge Jesus' system is really good for Fenerbahçe to make it this time. However he has been speculated with the manager job at Portugal national team. He wants this job really but let's see what happens.

Honestly Galatasaray has the best squad overall. Fenerbahçe was the best performing team until later weeks where they started to stall. I think Fenerbahçe midfielders are sort of better than Galatasaray. But Galatasaray has the best strikers in league. Beşiktaş ansd Başakşehir are close teams in squad quality in my opinion but both behind these 2, Fener and Galatasaray. I believe Galatasaray can win title if Okan Buruk can manage issues with defence, I feel like they need new player there, like far better than Nelson.

Galatasaray have the best forwards in the league, but they can't take advantage of them. Seferovic's contribution to the team is almost zero. Icardi has constantly struggled with injury problems. 37 years old Gomis saved us. Our best forwards have not contributed enough to the team so far. I hope some things change after that. Galatasaray constantly grappled with some problems, but eventually won the league's leadership. We are entering the new year as a leader and this gives us morale psychologically. I think it will be important to maintain this psychological superiority until the derby match. The winner of the derby match will gain a significant advantage. I think this game will determine a lot of things in the league.

Galatasaray has a chronic disease: To score 1-2 goals and not to continue. Galatasaray, which is constantly stressed after the opposing team scores 1 goal, often experiences this issue when they try to get ahead and turn the ball. This situation, which has been experienced more than I can count, puts a great stress on the players. Naturally, the opposing team has nothing to lose, so they constantly attack. If they coincide with another goal with a counterattack, galatasaray is relieved. Otherwise, they put themselves in trouble with the stress of losing points.

Every scenario is ready for galatasaray to lose points;
-The fans are waiting for the difference.
-players load unnecessary self-confidence.
-There has been a perception against gsin the media for a week.
-There are many injured and suspended football players.
All the matches before the derby will be difficult. When you add these up, let's not be surprised if the next match end in draw.

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Antalyaspor - Fenerbahce match will be played tomorrow. Antalyaspor could not make a good return to the league after the World Cup break. They have lost their last two league games played. There is also a worse statistic. They haven't scored in their last two league games either. We can say that they performed badly. Fenerbahce lost to Trabzonspor and disappointed their fans. However, they had given signs that they had returned to their scorer identity this season by scoring 4 goals against Hatayspor last week. So we can say that they started to perform well. Statistics, performance status and quality of football players are also in favor of Fenerbahçe. I think they definitely deserve to be the favorites in this match.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on January 01, 2023, 04:51:52 PM

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Besiktas is a great team, third biggest team of the nation by far and beyond without question, but they are used to not getting the title so much that when things don't get their way they may give up easier, whereas Galatasaray club as organization sees being low as "this will pass, look at winning the next game" and not look at the past and that is why they started 8th or something but leaders now. Cultural differences inside a club makes a big difference on results as well.

Valerin İsmael tried to apply the game system he had in mind to Beşiktaş, but he was unsuccessful. Şenol Güneş saw the problems in the team after he took office, but he could not overcome these problems as the transfer season was closed. He has said this several times at press conferences. In addition, some very important football players could not play in the matches due to injuries. That's why we've had a nightmare year this year. With a coach who knows this league and a few correct transfers, we can have an assertive position in the league again. We are experiencing some periodic problems that we have trouble with in terms of timing. Even if we don't get back into the championship race, we still have the potential to identify the champion. Beşiktaş also have a history and a strong culture at least as much as Galatasaray. :)

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Quote from: LGD2Business on January 01, 2023, 02:26:48 PM

The important thing is to get 3 points in the matches that you didn't play well. Galatasaray does this well, but Beşiktaş generally cannot. In fact, Beşiktaş generally loses points in the matches they play well, and this creates a great morale upset. I don't think the problem will be solved with Ghezzal alone. It's not clear when Ghezzal will return anyway, but the problem is bigger than him. In general, there is a problem of entering and evaluating the position. They can't get Weghorst to hit the ball in the right place. Wings don't contribute goals. Midfielders can't direct the game, so attacks are constantly being made from the flanks. There has been no goal from a free kick for a long time, with Masuaku scoring for the first time since 2019 last week. Beşiktaş should create bigger threats in set pieces and find a solution against the steady defense.

I think it is a bit about culture as well. Galatasaray is the club with the most Turkish league titles, they are the one with most domestic cup titles, they are the one with most domestic super cup titles, and only team with any continental cup ever (which was over 2 decades ago but still) and have pretty good European results in its history.

Besiktas is a great team, third biggest team of the nation by far and beyond without question, but they are used to not getting the title so much that when things don't get their way they may give up easier, whereas Galatasaray club as organization sees being low as "this will pass, look at winning the next game" and not look at the past and that is why they started 8th or something but leaders now. Cultural differences inside a club makes a big difference on results as well.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on January 01, 2023, 11:12:45 AM

Beşiktaş haven't been performing well for the last two weeks, but Beşiktaş won, albeit hard this week.An important win for Beşiktaş despite the bad performance they managed to get the three points. With this victory, Beşiktaş continues to exist in the championship race. Also, with the return of Ghezzal, Beşiktaş will go to better places. Because I think Ghezzal's performance is important for Beşiktaş.

The important thing is to get 3 points in the matches that you didn't play well. Galatasaray does this well, but Beşiktaş generally cannot. In fact, Beşiktaş generally loses points in the matches they play well, and this creates a great morale upset. I don't think the problem will be solved with Ghezzal alone. It's not clear when Ghezzal will return anyway, but the problem is bigger than him. In general, there is a problem of entering and evaluating the position. They can't get Weghorst to hit the ball in the right place. Wings don't contribute goals. Midfielders can't direct the game, so attacks are constantly being made from the flanks. There has been no goal from a free kick for a long time, with Masuaku scoring for the first time since 2019 last week. Beşiktaş should create bigger threats in set pieces and find a solution against the steady defense.

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Cimbom'da sol bek bölgesine takviye yapılması beklenirken konuyla ilgili sıcak bir gelişme yaşandı. Aslan, Avustralya Milli Takımı'nın sol beki Aziz Behich'i gündemine aldı..

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According to media reports, Galatasaray is interested in Aziz Behich. Coach Okan Koç is not satisfied with Patrick van Aanholt's performance. That's why they are considering a transfer to this region. Aziz Behich played football in Turkey before. He currently plays football in Scotland (Dundee United) and played for Australia in the last world cup. If Galatasaray makes this transfer, it will have done a positive job in terms of jersey competition. Aziz Behich is an adequate football player for the Turkish League, and he can contribute to Galatasaray in the championship race.

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Beşiktaş haven't been performing well for the last two weeks, but Beşiktaş won, albeit hard this week.An important win for Beşiktaş despite the bad performance they managed to get the three points. With this victory, Beşiktaş continues to exist in the championship race. Also, with the return of Ghezzal, Beşiktaş will go to better places. Because I think Ghezzal's performance is important for Beşiktaş.

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Quote from: Balmain on December 31, 2022, 02:40:01 PM

Galatasaray-Sivasspor match ended with problems, many fans found what happened strange. A lot of people have and didn't understand the referee's decision because there was no obvious reason. TFF made the decision,VAR referee Özgüç Türkalp will retire,Referee Erkan Özdamar will not be given a match until the end of the season. TFF should also make an obligation regarding the stadiums of the teams. Sivasspor field did not really have a suitable ground to play a match.

Due to the financial difficulties of the Anatolian teams, the stadium floors are sometimes not smooth. Tighter controls can be made by the federation and the teams can be supported. It is the right decision to take action against the referees after the VAR conversations come out. It is very difficult to say that football is clean in Turkey, there are always match-fixing or similar things

technology was supposed to put an end to these problems caused by referees but unfortunately we still have to continue to see the same unpleasant things in which in a very good game to watch the referee appears and starts to favor a certain team and with that the referee becomes the protagonist on the field, he is the center of attention, cards without fair reasons, penalties, unpleasant situations created by the referees

in the games in which fenerbahçe received red cards and the coach of fenerbahçe, jorge jesus, complained about this fact and complained that the referees were not doing their job well, to a certain extent I agree with the coach of fenerbahçe, the referees are being bad field service

and on this question of the poor quality of the field at Sivasspor, I think that the federation and even the ministry of sport or the government should start thinking about a championship model that is profitable for the teams, as is the case with the european leagues like la liga, premier league, bundesliga where teams have good stadiums

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Quote from: Balmain on December 31, 2022, 02:40:01 PM

Galatasaray-Sivasspor match ended with problems, many fans found what happened strange. A lot of people have and didn't understand the referee's decision because there was no obvious reason. TFF made the decision,VAR referee Özgüç Türkalp will retire,Referee Erkan Özdamar will not be given a match until the end of the season. TFF should also make an obligation regarding the stadiums of the teams. Sivasspor field did not really have a suitable ground to play a match.

Due to the financial difficulties of the Anatolian teams, the stadium floors are sometimes not smooth. Tighter controls can be made by the federation and the teams can be supported. It is the right decision to take action against the referees after the VAR conversations come out. It is very difficult to say that football is clean in Turkey, there are always match-fixing or similar things

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Quote from: Balmain on December 31, 2022, 02:40:01 PM

Galatasaray-Sivasspor match ended with problems, many fans found what happened strange. A lot of people have and didn't understand the referee's decision because there was no obvious reason. TFF made the decision,VAR referee Özgüç Türkalp will retire,Referee Erkan Özdamar will not be given a match until the end of the season. TFF should also make an obligation regarding the stadiums of the teams. Sivasspor field did not really have a suitable ground to play a match.

Yeah referee was terrible in match between Sivasspor and Galatasaray. Turkish Football Federatşon still couldn't solve issues with referees. Sivasspor didn't deserve its goal to be cancelled like there was nothing. Nothing happened. Referees are always doubtful as they are under stress. But I think some people have bad intentions like all these years in Turkish football history, match fixings are not something of past! It still clearly happens in some matches. I wish we can truly fix these problems as they are messing football betting too.

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