Turkish Super League 2022/23 Season - page 77.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on October 08, 2022, 10:19:06 AM

Beşiktaş need to get an absolute win today. Giresunspor is one of the middle-lower teams of this league. Beşiktaş no longer has the luxury of losing points. Beşiktaş win at 1.62 seems like the best bet of the day.
Beşiktaş has not been able to win in the league for three matches. Now they want to end this bad series. Ghezzal and Gedson return to the starting line-up. In this way, the lack of creative players problem will be eliminated. If the balls he wants come to Weghorst, it's possible that he score a goal. I expect to see a more fast-paced, willing Beşiktaş today.

I know that the Giresunspor team is weaker than Besiktas. But this is Giresunspor's home match. And the performance of Giresunspor in Ho matches is quite good. So I don't think the match will be one-sided. Giresunspor players will play defensively and try to draw the match. So Besiktas won't be able to win this match easily. It will be difficult for Besiktas players to score in this match.

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Beşiktaş need to get an absolute win today. Giresunspor is one of the middle-lower teams of this league. Beşiktaş no longer has the luxury of losing points. Beşiktaş win at 1.62 seems like the best bet of the day.
Beşiktaş has not been able to win in the league for three matches. Now they want to end this bad series. Ghezzal and Gedson return to the starting line-up. In this way, the lack of creative players problem will be eliminated. If the balls he wants come to Weghorst, it's possible that he score a goal. I expect to see a more fast-paced, willing Beşiktaş today.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on October 08, 2022, 07:05:26 AM

Today's most important match
Odds:
Bitexen Giresunspor 3.42
X Draw 3.09
Beşiktaş 1.74

Turkish betting house İddaa favors Beşiktaş in this match.

Over 2.5 goals 1.66
Under 2.5 goals 1.74

Beşiktaş were very ineffective against Fenerbahçe in their last league matches. Also they failed to win in their last three league matches. Now they must win this match. Because the difference in points between them and the teams at the top of the league will start to grow. But their performance in the last few weeks raises a lot of question marks. That's why I expect a surprising result in this match. Because Giresunspor won a draw in their last three matches in the league. They're a resilient team. Beşiktaş are favorites in the match. But I find it a bit risky to bet on Beşiktaş's win. In this match, Beşiktaş's win or draw may be a better option.

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Today's most important match
Odds:
Bitexen Giresunspor 3.42
X Draw 3.09
Beşiktaş 1.74

Turkish betting house İddaa favors Beşiktaş in this match.

Over 2.5 goals 1.66
Under 2.5 goals 1.74

Looks like expected result would be Beşiktaş conceding at least one goal even if they win (or just win like 3-0)
I think Beşiktaş will very likely win if their defence won't be messed up. Giresunspor misses Serginho this match as he was shown red card in last match. Bajic is dangerous player, may fire match with a goal.
Beşiktaş will very likely miss their most valuable player Ghezzal as he is lightly injured. Beşiktaş may have hard time solving Giresun defence if he doesn't play.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on October 05, 2022, 01:28:00 AM

Quote from: ingiltere on October 04, 2022, 05:37:26 PM

I didn't like the derby performance of both teams. We could've watched a better match but probably because of these two manager's tactical style and game plan, we watched a very boring derby.
Beşiktaş need to find better ways to score, without Ghezzal they couldn't do anything in attack. Midfielders should take more responsibility. Dele Alli should play more effectively in attack. Lack of creative player in the field is felt.

I agree with your commentary about Beşiktaş, they play good attacking football but Beşiktaş doesn't have enough creative players. For example I watched Mata a bit and he is probably not gonna play always in Galatasaray (he may be sub from time to time) yet his passes were key effective passes. Fenerbahçe has many creative players even in bench! Like İrfan Can I think as example. I wonder how Beşiktaş will fix this. Draw was no surprise.

In last three matches they already lost their seven points which is surely going to hurt them because they need to improve their attack which is surely a major concern for them in last few matches they fail to create chances which give them good goals and better results in Turkish league as now they are going to face another club which is playing with tight defense and have good record for ending in draws if they fail to achieve their goals in near future then surely they can't have any chance for going at the top of league table.

Mostly we have too many goals in derby matches but here we are having the worst results which are giving indicator of bore ends of derby matches which is surely going to hurt fans as well which are looking for better entertainment from these matches.

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Quote from: ingiltere on October 04, 2022, 05:37:26 PM

I didn't like the derby performance of both teams. We could've watched a better match but probably because of these two manager's tactical style and game plan, we watched a very boring derby.
Beşiktaş need to find better ways to score, without Ghezzal they couldn't do anything in attack. Midfielders should take more responsibility. Dele Alli should play more effectively in attack. Lack of creative player in the field is felt.

I agree with your commentary about Beşiktaş, they play good attacking football but Beşiktaş doesn't have enough creative players. For example I watched Mata a bit and he is probably not gonna play always in Galatasaray (he may be sub from time to time) yet his passes were key effective passes. Fenerbahçe has many creative players even in bench! Like İrfan Can I think as example. I wonder how Beşiktaş will fix this. Draw was no surprise.

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I didn't like the derby performance of both teams. We could've watched a better match but probably because of these two manager's tactical style and game plan, we watched a very boring derby.
Beşiktaş need to find better ways to score, without Ghezzal they couldn't do anything in attack. Midfielders should take more responsibility. Dele Alli should play more effectively in attack. Lack of creative player in the field is felt.

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Galatasaray didn't win this weekend and also Galatasaray played again quite bad. Although Adanademirspor struggle 10 football player second half, Galatasaray wasn't able to score. Even Adanademirspor could have scored. I didn't like Sergio Oliveira's performance at all. I liked the performances of Muslera, Nellson and Boey.

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Quote from: BALIK on October 03, 2022, 01:28:10 PM

Quote from: Slow death on October 03, 2022, 09:40:04 AM

Today we have a very interesting game:

Fatih Karagumruk - Istanbulspor

I consider it an interesting game because these two teams are coming from a sequence of draws and are in a dangerous position, so both teams will want to take advantage of this opportunity of not playing against a strong opponent so that they get 3 points, but the funny part is that the two teams are champions of draws, so it will be an interesting game, although I will not watch and I will not place a bet on this game because the chance of a draw is high, maybe choosing Under 3.25 could be a good option, but it could also be that these two teams score a lot of goals

The performance of both the teams has been quite stable in the last few matches. Istanbulspor lost the first 4 matches of the season. But they managed to earn points in the last three matches. On the other hand, the Karagumruk team is also unbeaten in the last four matches. And so no team will want to lose points in this match. Both teams will want to score at least 1 point.
Both teams are playing defensively. However, after Karagumruk took the lead in the 37th minute of the match, they did not attempt to attack again. If Istanbulspor players don't play some attacking now then they will fail to get points in this match.

This match are very interesting Istanbulspor success made the score on 69 minutes, and make also Karagumruk to panic then 3rd goal was created again by the Topalli. The final score was 1-2, apparently they managed to steal 3 points from the hosts. Fatih Karagumruk was eliminated from their previous position in the standings for a week, but will probably continue to fall into the unsafe zone because their next match will be against Fenerbahce.

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Quote from: Slow death on October 03, 2022, 09:40:04 AM

Today we have a very interesting game:

Fatih Karagumruk - Istanbulspor

I consider it an interesting game because these two teams are coming from a sequence of draws and are in a dangerous position, so both teams will want to take advantage of this opportunity of not playing against a strong opponent so that they get 3 points, but the funny part is that the two teams are champions of draws, so it will be an interesting game, although I will not watch and I will not place a bet on this game because the chance of a draw is high, maybe choosing Under 3.25 could be a good option, but it could also be that these two teams score a lot of goals

The performance of both the teams has been quite stable in the last few matches. Istanbulspor lost the first 4 matches of the season. But they managed to earn points in the last three matches. On the other hand, the Karagumruk team is also unbeaten in the last four matches. And so no team will want to lose points in this match. Both teams will want to score at least 1 point.
Both teams are playing defensively. However, after Karagumruk took the lead in the 37th minute of the match, they did not attempt to attack again. If Istanbulspor players don't play some attacking now then they will fail to get points in this match.

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Quote from: Slow death on October 03, 2022, 09:40:04 AM

Today we have a very interesting game:

Fatih Karagumruk - Istanbulspor

I consider it an interesting game because these two teams are coming from a sequence of draws and are in a dangerous position, so both teams will want to take advantage of this opportunity of not playing against a strong opponent so that they get 3 points, but the funny part is that the two teams are champions of draws, so it will be an interesting game, although I will not watch and I will not place a bet on this game because the chance of a draw is high, maybe choosing Under 3.25 could be a good option, but it could also be that these two teams score a lot of goals

The last match of the week will be a really interesting match. Because both teams are teams with surprising results. But Fatih Karagümrük are better than Istanbulspor in terms of squad quality. They have important football players who have played in big teams such as Galatasaray, Fenerbahçe and Trabzonspor in the past years. Salih Dursun, Caner Erkin, Mbaye Diagne are experienced football players who have played in competitive teams in the Super League. They also have quality football players such as Fabio Borini, Ahmed Musa and Emiliano Viviano. If Andrea Pirlo manages to use this modest football team efficiently, he can create miracles with Fatih Karagümrük. Istanbulspor could hardly make any ambitious transfers. They are a team of professional football players with an amateur spirit. Maybe Fatih Karagümrük can win this match. But I think there will be under 2.5 goals in this match. It has 2.11 odds and I think it has a satisfactory odds.

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Quote from: flipme on October 03, 2022, 01:51:35 AM

Quote from: eightdots on October 02, 2022, 03:19:52 PM

The last thing a football fan wants is for derby matches to be goalless. So was this match. Both teams first thought about not conceding a goal. They did not, or could not, perform as they did in other matches in the league. I did not enjoy the game I watched. A football match befitting Beşiktaş-Fenerbahçe match was not played. The referee didn't have a big mistake in the match. The technical guys could have made different changes. Position was also low in the match and both teams got one point each.

The match between Adana Demirspor and Galatasaray also ended in a goalless draw. Defensive game plans make matches unappealing. Fans don't like to watch games like this. The Italian league matches were like this for a while. I hope this period does not last long. I hope the teams prefer offensive-oriented football tactics that are pleasing to the eye. We watched many more enjoyable derby matches in the past years.

Even this was a goalless draw but still a good result for Galatasaray as their good run in this season is going on, and now they have 17 points which are giving them top spot with three other teams, but they are down just because of goal difference here Adana Demirspor is also done good job they play 30 minutes with 10 men but still a good display of performance which is surely going to be beneficial for them in coming days.

In Second big match we have another goalless draw which is also surprising as both teams done good job but still fail to have any positive result and with this draw Besiktas poor run is going on they lost seven points in last three games now they have to stay at 6th place with most chances they can drop from this as well because Fenerbahçe is having one match in hand, and they can go through at top with this which is most likely happen in coming days.

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Quote from: püsür on October 03, 2022, 08:18:23 AM

I'm afraid you are correct. Besiktas without N'koudou doesn't seem strong at all or can't find goals. Ghezzal was also injured but played. Maybe he shouldn't have been risked in this game because he is also extremely important. He should play more in the long run because he is the best offensive force Besiktas has at the moment.

N'koudou's value is evident when he is not on the field. Redmond showed a mediocre display. Muleka played perhaps his worst match for Beşiktaş, he was not effective at all. Ghezzal came in late, but I guess the doctors said he could only play that long. Otherwise, Ismael would have wanted to take him into the game earlier.
Both teams struggled to find a clear position. In the last 10 minutes of the match, there was an incredible pressure of Beşiktaş and effective attacks, but no goal was scored. If Beşiktaş had scored a goal there, everything would have been different.
As a result, the draw didn't work for either team. Neither team was happy with this result. It was the worst Beşiktaş - Fenerbahçe derby in recent years. As much excitement and goals in previous matches, there was none in this match.

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Today we have a very interesting game:

Fatih Karagumruk - Istanbulspor

I consider it an interesting game because these two teams are coming from a sequence of draws and are in a dangerous position, so both teams will want to take advantage of this opportunity of not playing against a strong opponent so that they get 3 points, but the funny part is that the two teams are champions of draws, so it will be an interesting game, although I will not watch and I will not place a bet on this game because the chance of a draw is high, maybe choosing Under 3.25 could be a good option, but it could also be that these two teams score a lot of goals

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Quote from: trendcoin on October 02, 2022, 02:49:09 PM

I realized that N'koudou is everything for this team in the last few weeks. More precisely, a N'koudou at the top of his form was everything for this team... The only positive development for Beşiktaş is the strong return of Rachid Ghezzal. Had he entered the game earlier, he could have changed a lot. Apart from that, we should be happy to get a point from Fenerbahçe.

I'm afraid you are correct. Besiktas without N'koudou doesn't seem strong at all or can't find goals. Ghezzal was also injured but played. Maybe he shouldn't have been risked in this game because he is also extremely important. He should play more in the long run because he is the best offensive force Besiktas has at the moment.

Quote from: CLS63 on October 02, 2022, 03:07:57 PM

The derby match was really the opposite of my thinking. I was expecting a match in which both teams scoring goals. Actually considering the number of dangerous attacks I really don't understand how this match ended up with a 0-0 draw.

Besiktas goalkeeper Ersin was really impressive in this match. I assume that it was related to his solving his contract issue with the team. He must have finally started to concentrate on his game after this. Valencia found a very crucial chance in the first ten minutes but the ball got out of the field so close to the right corner. Besiktas were really effective in the last minutes of the match. Rosier brought the ball from the defense with a great dribbling but Weghorst couldn't finish. Only two minutes after that Weghorst's great header came back from the goal post. Fenerbahce would have had really stressful minutes if one of them ended up with a goal.

I think your point about Ersin is correct but I don't want to believe that actually. As a player from Besiktas' youth teams, he shouldn't be threatening the team like that. If a player does this, I don't think he has the character suitable for Besiktas. Nevertheless, we are stuck with him and his good performance is key for Besiktas' success.

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I was also surprised with the results of Adana Demirspor - Galatasaray and Besiktas - Fenerbahce matches.

Mertens was impressive for Galatasaray as he found many critical chances to score. But he wasted all of them. Especially the last one was unbelievable. He couldn't score against an empty goal as he targeted the upper goal post. Adana Demirspor found critical chances with Onyekuru but Muslera made very important saves there. After the red card I expected Galatasaray to win but they somehow couldn't score any goal. I really don't know when Icardi got injured by the way. His return date is unknown and I wonder if his end will be like Falcao already now.

Another boring match was the derby. Actually we saw so many goal opportunities for both sides but none of them was capable enough to score. Especially Weghorst could have brought the win to his team. Considering how much productive these teams are normally, this result was pretty unexpected. Their previous head-to-head matches were also the opposite of this actually.

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Quote from: eightdots on October 02, 2022, 03:19:52 PM

The last thing a football fan wants is for derby matches to be goalless. So was this match. Both teams first thought about not conceding a goal. They did not, or could not, perform as they did in other matches in the league. I did not enjoy the game I watched. A football match befitting Beşiktaş-Fenerbahçe match was not played. The referee didn't have a big mistake in the match. The technical guys could have made different changes. Position was also low in the match and both teams got one point each.

The match between Adana Demirspor and Galatasaray also ended in a goalless draw. Defensive game plans make matches unappealing. Fans don't like to watch games like this. The Italian league matches were like this for a while. I hope this period does not last long. I hope the teams prefer offensive-oriented football tactics that are pleasing to the eye. We watched many more enjoyable derby matches in the past years.

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Quote from: eightdots on October 02, 2022, 03:19:52 PM

The last thing a football fan wants is for derby matches to be goalless. So was this match. Both teams first thought about not conceding a goal. They did not, or could not, perform as they did in other matches in the league. I did not enjoy the game I watched. A football match befitting Beşiktaş-Fenerbahçe match was not played. The referee didn't have a big mistake in the match. The technical guys could have made different changes. Position was also low in the match and both teams got one point each.

Yes i agree its rare to see a match in the turkish super league ending goalless it was a high stake game especially for the home team, besiktas needed the win so they could take the first position but it wasnt enough to get past fenerbahce a team who managed to improbe in term of performance recently, this result will benefect basaksehir team who will be three points away if they win their late game.

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The last thing a football fan wants is for derby matches to be goalless. So was this match. Both teams first thought about not conceding a goal. They did not, or could not, perform as they did in other matches in the league. I did not enjoy the game I watched. A football match befitting Beşiktaş-Fenerbahçe match was not played. The referee didn't have a big mistake in the match. The technical guys could have made different changes. Position was also low in the match and both teams got one point each.

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