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September 24, 2022, 06:21:50 PM
Nobody's value rises suddenly just because he came into the game later in the national team in a match. Those lists are just for show. What players are there, the market value is very high, but if you try to sell it, no one buys it. The high valuation of young players shows that they are promising, but first they need to prove themselves. Otherwise, you're just bragging about the marketcap value.
Young players coming out in Türkiye don't take good care of themselves. If they don't go to Europe, they cannot develop. Those who leave also come back somehow. The number of successful Turkish players is very small. Look, there is talk that even Çağlar Söyüncü will return. A year ago when he was named one of the best defenders in the Premier League.
Yes i agree that the player market value should be measured on his performance with both his team and national team and taking in consideration the league he play in its obvious that playing in one of the top five leagues is not the same as playing in the turkish league but it does not mean its a bad one but in my opinion its in the top ten, recently a lot of young players are showing good performance and am sure some of them will be able to make it to big clubs just like cengiz under did.
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September 24, 2022, 05:29:04 PM
Nobody's value rises suddenly just because he came into the game later in the national team in a match. Those lists are just for show. What players are there, the market value is very high, but if you try to sell it, no one buys it. The high valuation of young players shows that they are promising, but first they need to prove themselves. Otherwise, you're just bragging about the marketcap value.
Young players coming out in Türkiye don't take good care of themselves. If they don't go to Europe, they cannot develop. Those who leave also come back somehow. The number of successful Turkish players is very small. Look, there is talk that even Çağlar Söyüncü will return. A year ago when he was named one of the best defenders in the Premier League.
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September 24, 2022, 02:00:01 PM
İsmail Yüksek's market value has reached 3 million Euros. Fenerbahçe are very rich in terms of squad wealth in the midfield. Arda Guler, Miguel Crespo, Ferdi Kadıoğlu, Emre Mor, Willian Arao, Joao Pedro, Lincoln, İrfan Can. All of these players have the capacity to play in the first 11 players.


https://www.transfermarkt.com.tr/ismail-yuksek/marktwertverlauf/spieler/613725
İsmail Yüksek is a very young player and he gain much population and demand in very short times. his value reach 3 million Euros it is really amazing . It's really unbelievable that someone can improve his game performance so much and increase his value so much at such a young age
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September 24, 2022, 01:33:22 PM
İsmail Yüksek's market value has reached 3 million Euros. Fenerbahçe are very rich in terms of squad wealth in the midfield. Arda Guler, Miguel Crespo, Ferdi Kadıoğlu, Emre Mor, Willian Arao, Joao Pedro, Lincoln, İrfan Can. All of these players have the capacity to play in the first 11 players.
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Fenerbahçe give young players the opportunity to develop. Ferdi Kadıoğlu and Arda Güler are very lucky to play in Fenerbahçe. In Galatasaray, Kerem Aktürkoğlu receives intense criticism when he plays badly in a match. Fenerbahçe are more tolerant of young players.

I can agree that Fenerbahce are the luckiest team in the league taking the upcoming seasons and the foreign player rule into account. They have many young domestic players in their squad and these are really talented ones at the same time. When it comes to İsmail Yüksek his equalizer against Luxembourg was really amazing. Maybe we can see this like he has a good technique also.  Smiley

Galatasaray also are lucky to have some players like this. Kerem Aktürkoğlu and Berkan Kutlu are most promising players among them. But they should do their best to keep them in the team because they might get some offers from big European teams for them next summer depending on their performances this season. Berkan has a potential to be a wonderful defensive midfielder. Kerem is a very important part of the attacking line already now.
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September 24, 2022, 01:13:35 PM
İsmail Yüksek's market value has reached 3 million Euros. Fenerbahçe are very rich in terms of squad wealth in the midfield. Arda Guler, Miguel Crespo, Ferdi Kadıoğlu, Emre Mor, Willian Arao, Joao Pedro, Lincoln, İrfan Can. All of these players have the capacity to play in the first 11 players.


https://www.transfermarkt.com.tr/ismail-yuksek/marktwertverlauf/spieler/613725

Fenerbahçe give young players the opportunity to develop. Ferdi Kadıoğlu and Arda Güler are very lucky to play in Fenerbahçe. In Galatasaray, Kerem Aktürkoğlu receives intense criticism when he plays badly in a match. Fenerbahçe are more tolerant of young players.
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September 24, 2022, 05:16:01 AM
I think that Adana Demirspor are the most attracting team in the league at the moment. Because they have had a really huge form so far and they are in the lead now.

They are one of the best attacking teams recently by scoring 16 goals in 7 matches. I can't say this for their defense as they still have weak points. But they have done a good job by suppressing this weakness by improving their scoring performance so far. Belhanda and Onyekuru are the most scorers which must be frustrating to see for Galatasaray. But I don't know how much they can maintain this.

If Galatasaray-Besiktas-Fenerbahce trio have a good run Adana Demirspor's job to hold onto top 3 would be very difficult. Once this trio have the wind at their back it would be hard for any team remaining to keep up with them until the end of the season. Truthfully this time I hope to see a title race between this trio after seeing Besiktas and Galatasaray very poor last season. It would be an exciting season for us after Trabzonspor's boring dominance.

I agree, we will not have to watch Trabzonspor this year. There is a great competition at the top of the league right now and I think it can continue for a long time. If Adana Demirspor manages to beat Galatasaray in the next match, they will gain a huge advantage.
If we come to the end of the league with the points close at the end of the season, the importance of these matches will be revealed a little more
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September 24, 2022, 03:50:37 AM
You mentioned Beşiktaş's weakness in defence, which we can all agree I assume, although I think Fenerbahçe isn't that good at defending either. Jorge Jesus loves to play fully attacking football style, that doesn't let weak teams to exploit Fenerbahçe defence. But counter attacking teams can easily use it to their advantage. Beşiktaş is gonna be great exam that "total attacking" football has downsides. I think Beşiktaş is gonna get favorable result. But its my personal guess.

Beşiktaş don't give many positions to opponents, actually their overall defensive gameplay is good but there are a lot of personal mistakes. Right defender and goalkeeper positions are not reliable. You can fix goalkeeper problem, it's all about concentration and motivation. Ersin will come back stronger when he signs new contract. Mert Günok is back from a long injury, when he is ready we will see competition in the goalkeeper position. That make both players performance go up. But right defender position is a big mess. Every match there will be another player play in that position. Ismaël couldn't find a solution yet.
Fenerbahçe's defence have different problems but since they score a lot of goals that couldn't turn into a problem yet. They lost points in Ümraniyespor and Konyaspor games though. We will see how they defend against bigger teams though, derbies are always different and harder. There are a lot of factors. You can't really compare other games with derbies.
I exactly think thast there is a problem with Beşiktaş goalkeeper Ersin now. Its terrible when you have awesome defence line and you play well and suddenly your keeper can't do basic save and fucks it all up. Its what Ersin does now. Beşiktaş is very strong this season with new striker which I really like, they should show Ersin he SHOULD start performing better as soon as possible. Mert Günok's return is meaningless for now as he didn't play for so long but its good to try him in some unimportant matches, like Turkish cup matches for example.
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September 24, 2022, 01:57:39 AM
Here I want to mention Basaksehir which is surely the most amazing team in current season with having six match in Turkish League and two matches in Europa Conference League specially against team like Fiorentina but concede no goal it's not easy if in any league they also can go through for big test in this season and defending champions Trabzonspor which is struggling in this season but have good squad and good quality for giving good results.

Istanbul Basaksehir is the only team that is still unbeaten in the Super lig. They won four matches and drew one. And the most important thing is that they have not conceded a single goal in 6 matches. The performance of the defenders was outstanding. They are performing very well. If the defenders are able to continue with this consistency, we will see Istanbul Basaksehir at the top of the points table in a few days.
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September 22, 2022, 03:17:18 PM
Fenerbahçe's defence have different problems but since they score a lot of goals that couldn't turn into a problem yet. They lost points in Ümraniyespor and Konyaspor games though. We will see how they defend against bigger teams though, derbies are always different and harder. There are a lot of factors. You can't really compare other games with derbies.

Fenerbahçe's only weakness is that they are not consistent. They have a strong little squad. And they are capable of scoring a lot of goals. Also their defensive players are performing well. They scored 20 goals in 6 matches and conceded only 6 goals. But their only weakness is that if they concede a goal first in a match, the team's performance suffers badly. After conceding the first goal, the players lost confidence. This results in them not being able to return to the truck and losing points in the match. Players must be confident. And I think they should focus only on Super lig.
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September 22, 2022, 03:08:11 PM
I think that Adana Demirspor are the most attracting team in the league at the moment. Because they have had a really huge form so far and they are in the lead now.

They are one of the best attacking teams recently by scoring 16 goals in 7 matches. I can't say this for their defense as they still have weak points. But they have done a good job by suppressing this weakness by improving their scoring performance so far. Belhanda and Onyekuru are the most scorers which must be frustrating to see for Galatasaray. But I don't know how much they can maintain this.

If Galatasaray-Besiktas-Fenerbahce trio have a good run Adana Demirspor's job to hold onto top 3 would be very difficult. Once this trio have the wind at their back it would be hard for any team remaining to keep up with them until the end of the season. Truthfully this time I hope to see a title race between this trio after seeing Besiktas and Galatasaray very poor last season. It would be an exciting season for us after Trabzonspor's boring dominance.
In last few years we have big changes in Turkish League with too many teams are giving their best and increasing quality which is helping this league to be good in future with this all now game is not just between these three clubs Galatasaray-Besiktas-Fenerbahce now we have Basaksehir, Trabzonspor and Konyaspor which are having quality and enough players those can go for them into top level right now Adana Demirspor is leading league table but Basaksehir and Fenerbahce both are able to overtake them and take top spots as both have one match in hand which is enough for them.

Here I want to mention Basaksehir which is surely the most amazing team in current season with having six match in Turkish League and two matches in Europa Conference League specially against team like Fiorentina but concede no goal it's not easy if in any league they also can go through for big test in this season and defending champions Trabzonspor which is struggling in this season but have good squad and good quality for giving good results.
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September 22, 2022, 12:25:43 PM
You mentioned Beşiktaş's weakness in defence, which we can all agree I assume, although I think Fenerbahçe isn't that good at defending either. Jorge Jesus loves to play fully attacking football style, that doesn't let weak teams to exploit Fenerbahçe defence. But counter attacking teams can easily use it to their advantage. Beşiktaş is gonna be great exam that "total attacking" football has downsides. I think Beşiktaş is gonna get favorable result. But its my personal guess.

Beşiktaş don't give many positions to opponents, actually their overall defensive gameplay is good but there are a lot of personal mistakes. Right defender and goalkeeper positions are not reliable. You can fix goalkeeper problem, it's all about concentration and motivation. Ersin will come back stronger when he signs new contract. Mert Günok is back from a long injury, when he is ready we will see competition in the goalkeeper position. That make both players performance go up. But right defender position is a big mess. Every match there will be another player play in that position. Ismaël couldn't find a solution yet.
Fenerbahçe's defence have different problems but since they score a lot of goals that couldn't turn into a problem yet. They lost points in Ümraniyespor and Konyaspor games though. We will see how they defend against bigger teams though, derbies are always different and harder. There are a lot of factors. You can't really compare other games with derbies.
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September 22, 2022, 11:08:34 AM
I think that Adana Demirspor are the most attracting team in the league at the moment. Because they have had a really huge form so far and they are in the lead now.

They are one of the best attacking teams recently by scoring 16 goals in 7 matches. I can't say this for their defense as they still have weak points. But they have done a good job by suppressing this weakness by improving their scoring performance so far. Belhanda and Onyekuru are the most scorers which must be frustrating to see for Galatasaray. But I don't know how much they can maintain this.

If Galatasaray-Besiktas-Fenerbahce trio have a good run Adana Demirspor's job to hold onto top 3 would be very difficult. Once this trio have the wind at their back it would be hard for any team remaining to keep up with them until the end of the season. Truthfully this time I hope to see a title race between this trio after seeing Besiktas and Galatasaray very poor last season. It would be an exciting season for us after Trabzonspor's boring dominance.
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September 22, 2022, 01:06:42 AM
We are going to have one of the very important matches of the season next weekend. Besiktas are going to host Fenerbahce in an Istanbul derby.

This is a match between the teams that are one of the biggest candidates of the championship. There is no clear favourite in this match of course. Maybe both teams to score might be one of the best options to bet on for this match. Besiktas are still having defensive issues and I can't say that they have a reliable goalkeeper in the squad as well. We might start watching Mert Günok maybe but he needs match fitness at the same time. I wonder if Valerien Ismael is thinking of putting him in the starting eleven in a big match like this. Fenerbahce are very effective in offense these days. If they see weaknesses in Besiktas defense they might use this to their advantage.
You mentioned Beşiktaş's weakness in defence, which we can all agree I assume, although I think Fenerbahçe isn't that good at defending either. Jorge Jesus loves to play fully attacking football style, that doesn't let weak teams to exploit Fenerbahçe defence. But counter attacking teams can easily use it to their advantage. Beşiktaş is gonna be great exam that "total attacking" football has downsides. I think Beşiktaş is gonna get favorable result. But its my personal guess.
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September 21, 2022, 06:08:16 PM
We are going to have one of the very important matches of the season next weekend. Besiktas are going to host Fenerbahce in an Istanbul derby.

This is a match between the teams that are one of the biggest candidates of the championship. There is no clear favourite in this match of course. Maybe both teams to score might be one of the best options to bet on for this match. Besiktas are still having defensive issues and I can't say that they have a reliable goalkeeper in the squad as well. We might start watching Mert Günok maybe but he needs match fitness at the same time. I wonder if Valerien Ismael is thinking of putting him in the starting eleven in a big match like this. Fenerbahce are very effective in offense these days. If they see weaknesses in Besiktas defense they might use this to their advantage.
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September 21, 2022, 06:05:59 PM
I get that he is not only a great goalkeeper but also a great person, I love him as a galatasaray fan, but we should also realize his age as well. We do not have the kind of money or scouts to get a goalkeeper like him again, I remember clearly long stretches where we didn't had a proper goalkeeper between Taffarel and Muslera, we could consider Mondragon to be fine as well but nothing exceptional, but aside from those three we hadn't had a proper goalkeeper for over 20 years, just those three. We need to find a replacement to Muslera asap, while he is playing, so that we are not left with Ismail Cipe when Muslera retires Cheesy

İsmail Çipe Cheesy
I hope he doesn't stay, and if he stays, God help us Sad
I have never seen a bad goalkeeper in the history of Galatasaray as bad as İsmail Çipe.  I'm a better goalkeeper than him. Smiley
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September 21, 2022, 05:45:17 PM
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I get that he is not only a great goalkeeper but also a great person, I love him as a galatasaray fan, but we should also realize his age as well. We do not have the kind of money or scouts to get a goalkeeper like him again, I remember clearly long stretches where we didn't had a proper goalkeeper between Taffarel and Muslera, we could consider Mondragon to be fine as well but nothing exceptional, but aside from those three we hadn't had a proper goalkeeper for over 20 years, just those three. We need to find a replacement to Muslera asap, while he is playing, so that we are not left with Ismail Cipe when Muslera retires Cheesy
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September 21, 2022, 05:40:04 PM
Fernando Muslera,I remember him from the times he played at Lazio where he excelled for some time or any other Serie A team don't recall that well now.What I know is that he is truly a great goalkeeper and I think the best option for Galatasaray is to keep him until the end of his contract.

Muslera is not only a good goalkeeper, he is also a very good professional. There is hardly any football fan in Turkey who does not respect Muslera. Even Beşiktaş or Fenerbahçe fans respect him because he is a true professional on and off the field.

I don't know if the other goalkeepers are useless or not in the team but where I live we have a law that the goalkeepers,young ones should only be trained by the team goalkeeper so if they are young Muslera can be a great teacher for them thus improving their performance and Galatasaray does not need to spend any more money to buy a new one.

Galatasaray tried something similar with Tafarel before. Tafarel and Muslera did not play together, but Tafarel was Muslera's goalkeeper coach for a long time. When the time comes, Muslera leaves football at Galatasaray, goes on vacation to his country for a few years, and then works as a goalkeeper coach at Galatasaray. :)
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September 21, 2022, 05:33:21 PM
Galatasaray won this match with a bit of luck again. But I think they performed well enough. I am surprised to see Gomis can perform okay for more than 45 minutes at that age. Galatasaray may never even need new striker. But I feel like Turkish wingers of Galatasaray are sort of lackluster which effects the team. I feel like Galatasaray may need to replace Muslera as a keeper with Turk so they can try foreigner winger. This foreigner player limit is so bad for teams.
Galatasaray was very lucky. They scored in the first minute of the match. And in the 82nd minute, Francisco Calvo's mistake made it 2-1. However, Galatasaray's performance in this match was not bad. Basically, both teams played well enough and tried to win. But unfortunately for Konyaspor, they were not able to share the points. However, I am happy to see several teams fighting for the title this season.
After the worst end of last season in Turkish League there were no chance for them to have good spot in this season, but suddenly they have done good job with having few quality transfers and good performance from Veteran Gomes they are currently at good spot with most chances we will have good fight from them in rest of the season for staying into good position even few teams are doing amazing job which is surely big surprise for me as well because I was not expecting performance like this from them but still they are doing good work and having good results which is positive change here and now as good names are also coming into this league surely more development will be happened in coming years.

Fenerbahçe, Trabzonspor and Basaksehir bringing good quality changes with their performance in Turkish League as well as UEFA European competitions, hopefully Galatasaray will also in better shape and able to give good result in this season which could be more interesting.
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September 21, 2022, 09:20:26 AM
I feel like Galatasaray may need to replace Muslera as a keeper with Turk so they can try foreigner winger. This foreigner player limit is so bad for teams.

It seems impossible. Galatasaray has no chance without Muslera in the games.(My opinion)
Yes, the foreign player rule creates a lot of problems for the teams, but unfortunately they have to comply with it.


Fernando Muslera is 36 years old now and he is still a really reliable goalkeeper. This is his 11th year in this team and it wouldn't be that easy for the team to sell him anytime soon. I expect him to stay at least until the end of his contract which is 2024. Rather than replacing him, Galatasaray should replace one of their useless domestic goalkeepers with a talented one. It is difficult for them to sign talented goalkeepers from their rivals of course. But they can still find qualified goalkeepers if they make a detailed research.

Until finding the right Turkish goalkeeper they had better deal with the foreign player rule by changing some other players. There are quite many foreign players in the squad after the recent transfers especially.

Fernando Muslera,I remember him from the times he played at Lazio where he excelled for some time or any other Serie A team don't recall that well now.What I know is that he is truly a great goalkeeper and I think the best option for Galatasaray is to keep him until the end of his contract.

I don't know if the other goalkeepers are useless or not in the team but where I live we have a law that the goalkeepers,young ones should only be trained by the team goalkeeper so if they are young Muslera can be a great teacher for them thus improving their performance and Galatasaray does not need to spend any more money to buy a new one.
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September 21, 2022, 06:35:13 AM
Galatasaray won this match with a bit of luck again. But I think they performed well enough. I am surprised to see Gomis can perform okay for more than 45 minutes at that age. Galatasaray may never even need new striker. But I feel like Turkish wingers of Galatasaray are sort of lackluster which effects the team. I feel like Galatasaray may need to replace Muslera as a keeper with Turk so they can try foreigner winger. This foreigner player limit is so bad for teams.

Galatasaray was very lucky. They scored in the first minute of the match. And in the 82nd minute, Francisco Calvo's mistake made it 2-1. However, Galatasaray's performance in this match was not bad. Basically, both teams played well enough and tried to win. But unfortunately for Konyaspor, they were not able to share the points. However, I am happy to see several teams fighting for the title this season.
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