Topic: Twister is amazing - page 2. (Read 5070 times)

I very much agree with these statements. This can not possibly scale even up to smallish numbers. Actually its the same reason exchanges can not be distributed. The blockchain can't be used for time-ordered messaging. Transactions in the chain are not ordered. The order of transactions in one block does not matter. However, order of messages in communication does matter. If in a thread one post comes later than another but refers to ts hat post, order is not preserved. So a conversation (i.e. message B is a reply to message A) is not possible, because order is needed.

I think there is generally not a good understanding of what can be done with the blockchain in principle. The most interesting application by far is namecoin. The reason is that the cycle of messages is much longer. You reserve a name and this stays constant for say 12 months. I find it also interesting in that a domain name really is a link to a server, operated by a person or organization. If you think about it a corporation is really not much else. Twitter is a set of people tied to the services of Twitter Inc, a completely fictitious entity. There is no reason we could have much better legal frameworks. For example most multi-nationals avoid taxes completely with various schemes, corrupt governments, hand over information to power groups etc.etc.

Hmm...

I'm not sure about the promoted messages.  If twister ends up being as decentralised as Bitcoin then there would be nothing to stop someone taking the code, snipping out the promoted messages, and providing an ad-block experience.  Mining incentive might well reduce to donations (maybe that's enough).  I'd prefer to see a more robust incentive mechanism, particularly given that a successful service will require more data storage than Bitcoin.

Also, I can see that the messages will be secure but don't see resistance to meta-data tracking (please correct me if this is addressed).

Natively secure p2p messaging with low overheads ... this has much promise.

e.g. I can envisage a distributed exchange using elements of this ...

Haha. If they do they probably wont have it for long  .

Interesting concept. Do you have a twitter account where I could keep up to date about it?

Twitter doesn't have a trademark on the letters "T-W-I". 'Twister' with a picture of a tornado is its own concept, and very distinct from the bird 'tweets' that the 'Twitter' brand is based on. The layout otoh..

In the founder's defense, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twisted_curves

you haven't really said anything of substance yet that i can try to address. i think dht scales much better than bitmessage.

and hand waving it away as just dht + blockchain is like handwaving away bitcoin as proof of work + signed timestamped messages. he's put a lot of thought into different use cases and built the primitives to support them (restype="single" or "multi"). and thought about scalability. i have confidence in this unless someone can tell me real problems.

Worth keeping an eye on, anyway.

and btw- if this person wants recognition in this area, it might be a good idea to reference where there is precedent, in particular NameCoin.

-bm

I'm not here to do bug regressions for this person.

the concept just sort of glues together DHTs and Bitcoin-like Blockchains.  DHTs have a number of problems associated with them.  Also if he wants to use the Blockchain, there must be some clear incentive for the 'mining' function, in this case there is none(he does note this on his website).

Cool idea, but likely to break or be compromised if ever used in any significant capacity.  No one has explored attack vectors yet.

Trademark infringement suit in 3... 2... 1...

this is more elegant than retroshare. retroshare is lets put everything here. twister is next generation.

maybe you can specify some of these problems? i've been emailing the author, and he's a very competent coder.

cool idea, but seems to just inherit the problems of DHTs.

what he's done is use a block chain to manage the registration process and the *claim to an identity*.  Surprisingly, he does not reference Namecoin.  Not sure if he's done better than Diaspora.

Whitepaper is fairly well written.  Nice work, good contribution, but not sure if this is going to change much for most people.

for instance, how does this compare to RetroShare?

Potential PR coup: It would be interesting to automate the gateway in a UI click friendly way. Make it 2-way, then if/when Twitter cancels the accounts of the Twitter-side gateway, the Twister side can still operate (albeit with functional Twitter accounts).

Then, Twitter look like censors, and Twister look all heroic and stuff.

Change the name though. Seriously. Look how unpractical it is to discuss them along side each other, the similarity is actually not a good idea.

Nice. This looks promising.

my twister ids: @genjix @darkwallet

I think that model is outdated anyway. Didn't they only limit it to 140 characters because that's what a text message was?

Is there anyway to invest into twister?

Because Twitter is lol