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Quote from: serjent05 on October 08, 2022, 05:41:58 PM

Youtube may block gambling content in countries where gambling is ban. That is the censorship youtube will do on gambling channels.

Just to clarify, if its law in those countries there is no maybe about those actions they will happen or the company will be expelled from the country. Google, alphabet, Youtube might be large global entities but they are still the significance of a kid playing in the street compared to a national government compelling you to follow not just guidelines but exact instructions. Gambling will be banned from any mention in many places no doubt, we only hope that crypto is not treated in any similar way but is regarded as something relatively inert and neutral.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on October 09, 2022, 11:46:30 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on October 07, 2022, 11:48:27 PM

Watching streamers gambling with a ton of money is a complete waste of time if you ask me since the funds that they use are usually supplied by the site that they are gambling in which implies that the risk factor here is zero.

It's a clever tactic used by many popular gambling sites to attract gamblers for sure, but trying to replicate their wins is silly due to the difference in the risk factor between the streamers and gamblers.

I guess some people watch these streams for fun which is the silver lining here.

I believe people watch not because they think it is real gambling, but because they just like to watch people do stuff. I mean look at all the gamers, I can buy the game and play it myself as well, and in this day and age there are so many places that I can go ahead and find other people to group up and play together too, and yet I do not do it at all.

This is why I believe that we shouldn't really be expecting anything big out of this, it is not about the real money or fake money, it's about the community basically. If you watch someone then you sort of belong to their community and if you chat enough, you will get to know other people and make friends, that has always been the real reason for twitch.

Not only on twitch but also into other similar platforms as well.This do really means on having communication and interaction with fellow gamers or something to those people who do want to socialize for those someone
who do share up with the same interest or hobby.It is really no brainer that we would really be looking on places which we do really able to find ourselves to be relevant.
Whenever someone do watch up some streams then it would be mostly be pertaining about their interest on watching someone who do play or it really just vary that it had caught their attention.
We could really deal up things according on what we do see on point whether it do really fits out on something we do prefer or not.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 09, 2022, 12:32:49 AM

Content creators and advertisers need to follow the policies given by these centralized platforms and also creators needs to find a more decentralized place on the internet where they can create content and stream without much restrictions.

Agreed. I guess such decentralised places do exist, but they pale in popularity when compared to centralised platforms like YouTube, Twitch etc.

Quote from: RealMalatesta on October 09, 2022, 11:46:30 AM

This is why I believe that we shouldn't really be expecting anything big out of this, it is not about the real money or fake money, it's about the community basically. If you watch someone then you sort of belong to their community and if you chat enough, you will get to know other people and make friends, that has always been the real reason for twitch.

I understand your opinion, but comparing gaming with real money gambling doesn't make much sense. You stand to lose money while trying to replicate streamer wins while the same doesn't apply to playing games.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 07, 2022, 11:48:27 PM

Watching streamers gambling with a ton of money is a complete waste of time if you ask me since the funds that they use are usually supplied by the site that they are gambling in which implies that the risk factor here is zero.

It's a clever tactic used by many popular gambling sites to attract gamblers for sure, but trying to replicate their wins is silly due to the difference in the risk factor between the streamers and gamblers.

I guess some people watch these streams for fun which is the silver lining here.

I believe people watch not because they think it is real gambling, but because they just like to watch people do stuff. I mean look at all the gamers, I can buy the game and play it myself as well, and in this day and age there are so many places that I can go ahead and find other people to group up and play together too, and yet I do not do it at all.

This is why I believe that we shouldn't really be expecting anything big out of this, it is not about the real money or fake money, it's about the community basically. If you watch someone then you sort of belong to their community and if you chat enough, you will get to know other people and make friends, that has always been the real reason for twitch.

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Quote from: fathafraink on October 08, 2022, 10:20:51 AM

Quote from: jpcfan on September 26, 2022, 03:54:17 AM

i figure all crypto gambling streamers will go to youtube. but as you know that won't last long.

youtube will do what they do best, censor the biggest channels as soon as they are settled in.

Stunna, can you make a site thats just for crypto gambling streaming?

you would make millions from it.

i love watching slot streamers. its great entertainment.

I just found out that Some gambling contents have been banned from Twitch after one of its streamers reportedly stole tens of thousands of dollars from fans and fellow streamers in order to fuel a gambling habit.
More information : https://www.npr.org/2022/09/22/1124384092/twitch-bans-some-gambling-content-after-an-outcry-from-streamers

actually this is just one piece of so much happening in twitch specially in gambling world so the platform as being discussed to banned Gambling streamers , but the link is indeed one of the main reason why twitch wanted to maintain their trustworthiness by not letting any bad influencers in their site.
though there are other platform that they can transfer but this will bring big impact to the existing site that uses the platform to lure gamblers.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 08, 2022, 11:56:37 PM

Quote from: Gyfts on October 08, 2022, 05:00:32 PM

Why is YouTube worse than twitch? They have massive global market share, just not in livestreaming.

Only a YouTube hater would say crap like that since anyone with a half-decent brain knows that YouTube is way, way more popular than the other platforms which were mentioned in some of the previous posts.

Quote from: serjent05 on October 08, 2022, 05:41:58 PM

Aside from that, Youtube is a good platform and maybe a good alternative for gambling streamers now that twitch is banning these gambling streamers.

YouTube is more restrictive when compared to Twitch in this case which is why I don't think your suggestion is really helpful here.

Why do we even need to compare Youtube and twitch ? Both cover the difference audience and both are popular in one way or another, however, Youtube is more watched as compared to Twitch. As per some data , Youtube has 2.1 billion monthly active users while only 30 Million Active users visit Twitch daily. So you can find the difference in number of visitors at both platforms.

However, when it comes to gambling content or crypto currencies content, both have some restrictions and those streamers are not given free hand on both platforms. Twitch bans content which included unlicensed slots, dice and other gambling games while youtube has a restricted policy over content related to gambling, drugs , alcohol etc.

Content creators and advertisers need to follow the policies given by these centralized platforms and also creators needs to find a more decentralized place on the internet where they can create content and stream without much restrictions.

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Quote from: Gyfts on October 08, 2022, 05:00:32 PM

Why is YouTube worse than twitch? They have massive global market share, just not in livestreaming.

Only a YouTube hater would say crap like that since anyone with a half-decent brain knows that YouTube is way, way more popular than the other platforms which were mentioned in some of the previous posts.

Quote from: serjent05 on October 08, 2022, 05:41:58 PM

Aside from that, Youtube is a good platform and maybe a good alternative for gambling streamers now that twitch is banning these gambling streamers.

YouTube is more restrictive when compared to Twitch in this case which is why I don't think your suggestion is really helpful here.

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Quote from: Gyfts on October 08, 2022, 05:00:32 PM

Quote from: Despairo on September 26, 2022, 04:47:30 AM

Youtube is worst than Twitch, so I don't think there's another good platform for Drake except Twitch since the other platforms doesn't popular.

Why is YouTube worse than twitch? They have massive global market share, just not in livestreaming. Their political censorship is overboard but I understand wanting to waive liability from the tech censorship overlords by banning discussion of contentious political topics. Gambling isn't as taboo so it seems like they allow gambling content to be published.

Youtube may block gambling content in countries where gambling is ban. That is the censorship youtube will do on gambling channels. Youtube is playing safe when they remove or banned videos that have political views. They just don't want to have problems with the authority and wanted to make their operation smooth by banning and deleting videos that can offend or attack any political parties. Aside from that, Youtube is a good platform and maybe a good alternative for gambling streamers now that twitch is banning these gambling streamers.

Though we also don't know what will happen if regulators started to pressure youtube to ban gambling streamers since it is highly possible to happen too.

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Quote from: Despairo on September 26, 2022, 04:47:30 AM

You're wrong here, Twitch doesn't ban gambling streamer e.g. Drake because he's gambling on sport betting, not luck based games e.g. slots, roulette, dice etc. The problem is Twitch banning the site e.g. Stake, if Stake separate his casino site and sportsbook site, of course they will can advertise on Twitch.

Youtube is worst than Twitch, so I don't think there's another good platform for Drake except Twitch since the other platforms doesn't popular.

They banned gambling from "unlicensed" providers and they consider any company with a Curacao gaming license as unlicensed. Obviously this was to put a blanket ban on most of the gambling content that people were publishing, though I suppose someone could possibly circumvent the ban if there are providers that Twitch considers to have legitimate licenses.

Quote from: Despairo on September 26, 2022, 04:47:30 AM

Youtube is worst than Twitch, so I don't think there's another good platform for Drake except Twitch since the other platforms doesn't popular.

Why is YouTube worse than twitch? They have massive global market share, just not in livestreaming. Their political censorship is overboard but I understand wanting to waive liability from the tech censorship overlords by banning discussion of contentious political topics. Gambling isn't as taboo so it seems like they allow gambling content to be published.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on October 08, 2022, 04:37:30 PM

Quote from: panjul07 on October 08, 2022, 08:19:36 AM

Pretty sure it is wasting time activity if we do not like it but there are thousands of people who like to watch it for some reasons.
Some people watch it because there will be giveaway by the streamer and some other watch it because they purely like to watch it.
I myself do not like to watch live stream (any content) but I do like to watch some clips of nice winning from the streamers (I dont care whether they use real money or not).
In this case, Drake is an official ambassador of Stake so if Twitch will ban him then I believe there will be communication between Stake and Drake to find the best alternative streaming platform.

Eddie said today in his stream that Drake will make a new stream soon, in the coming weeks. It will be after the 18th october because if it was in the 10 coming days it would be already scheduled on a specific date. So it will be necessarily outside Twitch. Eddie didn't say where it will be, but we can assume it will be on Dlive, since it seems to be his favorite stream platform.

It would really be one of the list.

YouTube Gaming.
Facebook Gaming.
Periscope.
Smashcast.
UStream.
Mixer.
Mirrativ.
DLive.
YouNow
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Source: https://www.regendus.com/best-twitch-alternative/

When it comes to Twitch alternative.If they do made out some announcements
then for sure they had find another place for those streams.

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Quote from: panjul07 on October 08, 2022, 08:19:36 AM

Pretty sure it is wasting time activity if we do not like it but there are thousands of people who like to watch it for some reasons.
Some people watch it because there will be giveaway by the streamer and some other watch it because they purely like to watch it.
I myself do not like to watch live stream (any content) but I do like to watch some clips of nice winning from the streamers (I dont care whether they use real money or not).
In this case, Drake is an official ambassador of Stake so if Twitch will ban him then I believe there will be communication between Stake and Drake to find the best alternative streaming platform.

Eddie said today in his stream that Drake will make a new stream soon, in the coming weeks. It will be after the 18th october because if it was in the 10 coming days it would be already scheduled on a specific date. So it will be necessarily outside Twitch. Eddie didn't say where it will be, but we can assume it will be on Dlive, since it seems to be his favorite stream platform.

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Quote from: jpcfan on September 26, 2022, 03:54:17 AM

i figure all crypto gambling streamers will go to youtube. but as you know that won't last long.

youtube will do what they do best, censor the biggest channels as soon as they are settled in.

Stunna, can you make a site thats just for crypto gambling streaming?

you would make millions from it.

i love watching slot streamers. its great entertainment.

I just found out that Some gambling contents have been banned from Twitch after one of its streamers reportedly stole tens of thousands of dollars from fans and fellow streamers in order to fuel a gambling habit.
More information : https://www.npr.org/2022/09/22/1124384092/twitch-bans-some-gambling-content-after-an-outcry-from-streamers

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 07, 2022, 11:48:27 PM

Watching streamers gambling with a ton of money is a complete waste of time if you ask me since the funds that they use are usually supplied by the site that they are gambling in which implies that the risk factor here is zero.

It's a clever tactic used by many popular gambling sites to attract gamblers for sure, but trying to replicate their wins is silly due to the difference in the risk factor between the streamers and gamblers.

I guess some people watch these streams for fun which is the silver lining here.

Pretty sure it is wasting time activity if we do not like it but there are thousands of people who like to watch it for some reasons.
Some people watch it because there will be giveaway by the streamer and some other watch it because they purely like to watch it.
I myself do not like to watch live stream (any content) but I do like to watch some clips of nice winning from the streamers (I dont care whether they use real money or not).
In this case, Drake is an official ambassador of Stake so if Twitch will ban him then I believe there will be communication between Stake and Drake to find the best alternative streaming platform.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on October 07, 2022, 06:59:19 PM

Quote from: livingfree on October 07, 2022, 06:02:37 PM

Dlive is the other platform that I've known where they can stream. YouTube has streaming as well. But for Dlive, it's not that much users yet and viewers are still few.

So, it's like that Twitch is still the king of streaming against other streaming platforms. Facebook is also a good platform where has a lot of viewers for streamers but I don't know if they'll allow gambling contents to be viewed in their stream.

This isn't a big issue. Streamers will always have their plans and platforms ready. Probably we can see some of the firms to come up with a dedicated streaming application for gamblers. For now we've got more platforms that support streaming and they might have their own terms and conditions.

Yeah, as long as they have already built their fanbase. The fans are going to follow them wherever they go, that's why those streamers that are entertaining will always find a good spot wherever they go.

Aside from those donations that they'll receive from their fans, they can secure contract and support from the platform itself aside from advertisements and partnerships too.

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Quote from: livingfree on October 07, 2022, 06:02:37 PM

Dlive is the other platform that I've known where they can stream. YouTube has streaming as well. But for Dlive, it's not that much users yet and viewers are still few.

So, it's like that Twitch is still the king of streaming against other streaming platforms. Facebook is also a good platform where has a lot of viewers for streamers but I don't know if they'll allow gambling contents to be viewed in their stream.

Currently, I'm still watching on the Twitch and Facebook, I've never know that Dlive its just a new thing to me, and at the same time is with the facebook right now have a restriction once they saw already a gambling related into the content like live streaming most likely they remove those but instead the streamers do is just having a cut with the edits of the streamers by that they can now easily still promote the platform they have sponsored with.

Dlive has been there IIRC for years but they've tried to make their advertisements with a lot of popular people yet that's not enough.

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Watching streamers gambling with a ton of money is a complete waste of time if you ask me since the funds that they use are usually supplied by the site that they are gambling in which implies that the risk factor here is zero.

It's a clever tactic used by many popular gambling sites to attract gamblers for sure, but trying to replicate their wins is silly due to the difference in the risk factor between the streamers and gamblers.

I guess some people watch these streams for fun which is the silver lining here.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on October 07, 2022, 06:59:19 PM

This isn't a big issue. Streamers will always have their plans and platforms ready. Probably we can see some of the firms to come up with a dedicated streaming application for gamblers. For now we've got more platforms that support streaming and they might have their own terms and conditions.

That's true that's why I said that they will find another platform sooner or later. Twitch is scheduled to ban gambling so right now I think they still let people stream gambling. I am not sure if twitch will just announce that they ban gambling especially streame from the sites they mentioned in their twitter but I think not all gambling will be banned but I did read that they will identify other to ban as well but they did announced to continue with sports betting, fantasy sports and poker so that means not all may be banned.

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Quote from: livingfree on October 07, 2022, 06:02:37 PM

Quote from: nakamura12 on October 07, 2022, 03:42:55 PM

I don't know if there's an alternative platform to livestream yet but I think they will find sooner or later which they can stream gambling related streams.

Dlive is the other platform that I've known where they can stream. YouTube has streaming as well. But for Dlive, it's not that much users yet and viewers are still few.

So, it's like that Twitch is still the king of streaming against other streaming platforms. Facebook is also a good platform where has a lot of viewers for streamers but I don't know if they'll allow gambling contents to be viewed in their stream.

Currently, I'm still watching on the Twitch and Facebook, I've never know that Dlive its just a new thing to me, and at the same time is with the facebook right now have a restriction once they saw already a gambling related into the content like live streaming most likely they remove those but instead the streamers do is just having a cut with the edits of the streamers by that they can now easily still promote the platform they have sponsored with.

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Quote from: FanEagle on October 07, 2022, 02:49:21 PM

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Quote from: Lanatsa on October 06, 2022, 03:37:12 PM

Removing gambling related streams then it would be particular giving out different impressions to other co-streamers whether they would really be affected by that or would simply ignore and stay up on Twitch.

For sure it would really make out some decrease but lets see if on how they would really be able to handle up such changes but pretty sure that they had been fully prepared and aware
in regarding on the decisions that they had made out.

Just like the rest been saying that this isnt only the streaming platform out there.There's still some other options left.

But maybe those streamers will switch to gambling games that are still allowed by Twitch because it means they don't have to leave Twitch which has given them space to share hobbies or provide content for people. If that's the case, maybe people will be more careful about providing content and try not to violate Twitch's new rules.

So the ban from Twitch is not the end of everything but a new beginning for streamers to be able to continue to channel it elsewhere. We will see later.

I do not know, is there any gambling games that are allowed? I am not saying there are none, but I haven't heard any that still exists. As far as I know, it was all about how there would be absolutely no games of gambling allowed, but that is just what I assumed would happen, not what I knew that would happen, which is why I had no idea that it would go on like this.

At the end of the day, we are talking about something that is going to hurt the markets a bit, and that's not going to be so simple to go on neither, it's going to be marketing hell for a while until all of them find another place, which means it will take time and cause some discomfort.

If you visit this link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/twitch-to-ban-gambling-streaming-by-october-18th-5414408, it says that

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We will continue to allow websites that focus on sports betting, fantasy sports, and poker.

So there are still gambling games that are allowed to air on Twitch. Maybe at this time, the streamers are still looking for a place to show their content that is still allowed and I'm sure they will be back on air shortly. That won't stop them from providing content to other subscribers or viewers.

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Not heard of Dlive before but it doesnt matter for Drake, people will go where he tells them he is now streaming. I dont think its an issue for people already famous really, if the site is capable of handling the traffic then he can and will likely use it.
I like the boundary they draw though I see plenty of luck involved in sports or poker or any betting really but I get they intend to name it a skill based game so relevant to stay on the site. A bad person trying to scam people, lying, stealing basically is something that exists every sector of industry and definitely occurs in politics, broadcasting, entertainment. Its naive to think otherwise but this is the easiest path for them to change policy on I guess, I can see them changing it back in future also tbh.
Mainstream games have a ton of gambling built into them as revenue generators also, worth mentioning that hasnt changed.

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Quote from: livingfree on October 07, 2022, 06:02:37 PM

Quote from: nakamura12 on October 07, 2022, 03:42:55 PM

I don't know if there's an alternative platform to livestream yet but I think they will find sooner or later which they can stream gambling related streams.

Dlive is the other platform that I've known where they can stream. YouTube has streaming as well. But for Dlive, it's not that much users yet and viewers are still few.

So, it's like that Twitch is still the king of streaming against other streaming platforms. Facebook is also a good platform where has a lot of viewers for streamers but I don't know if they'll allow gambling contents to be viewed in their stream.

This isn't a big issue. Streamers will always have their plans and platforms ready. Probably we can see some of the firms to come up with a dedicated streaming application for gamblers. For now we've got more platforms that support streaming and they might have their own terms and conditions.

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