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Quote from: jpcfan on September 26, 2022, 03:54:17 AM

i figure all crypto gambling streamers will go to youtube. but as you know that won't last long.

youtube will do what they do best, censor the biggest channels as soon as they are settled in.

Stunna, can you make a site thats just for crypto gambling streaming?

you would make millions from it.

i love watching slot streamers. its great entertainment.

It will take effect from 18 October 2022. By reason, in an effort to protect users from potential harm. But there are still many solutions by using other similar platforms for the media.

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Quote from: Eureka_07 on September 30, 2022, 06:18:08 PM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 28, 2022, 07:05:32 AM

But so far as posted by Xposed they are still starting live on Twitch about 7 hours ago. It also indicates that there are still possible policies that have not been set by Twitch.

It is still good fine to stream slots until now. Based from Twitch's announcement, they will implement the new policies on October 18th this year. From the last time I heard about them, I think they said that they will soon announce policies regarding this matter. But in general, all gambling streamers, specifically slots, dice, and roulette streamers can still stream these games until the said date.

Quote from: theskillzdatklls on September 30, 2022, 05:01:13 AM

Even if YouTube were to allow hosting for gambling content, 0% chance that survives 10 years let alone even 1 year.

I know some content creators on YouTube that solely create contents about gambling for years. Until now they're fine.

Gambling content, if it's allowed, might get demonetized presently, might get deplatformed eventually. Live streaming of this might be illegal now, or will become illegal eventually.

If you don't see this, you haven't paid attention to the censorship meta of Big Tech the past 6 years.

It becomes more and more abrasive with time. Unless it's celebrity gossip or some sanitized mainstream narrative, it's on it's way to getting banned.

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Quote from: dothebeats on September 26, 2022, 04:53:24 AM

Quote from: Despairo on September 26, 2022, 04:47:30 AM

You're wrong here, Twitch doesn't ban gambling streamer e.g. Drake because he's gambling on sport betting, not luck based games e.g. slots, roulette, dice etc. The problem is Twitch banning the site e.g. Stake, if Stake separate his casino site and sportsbook site, of course they will can advertise on Twitch.

What do you mean exactly with this? If Stake, as a separate entity, goes live on Twitch that is okay? Stake is a gambling entity, and it's not safe from Twitch's ban since they are a gambling platform.

What i only understand is Drake's content on Twitch wont get banned only if he use sports betting content on his streams. Since twitch wont ban streams related to fantasy sports, poker and including sports betting.

Also, Stake wont get banned as a platform on Twitch, only the game related content like dice, slot, roulette, etc.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 28, 2022, 07:05:32 AM

But so far as posted by Xposed they are still starting live on Twitch about 7 hours ago. It also indicates that there are still possible policies that have not been set by Twitch.

It is still good fine to stream slots until now. Based from Twitch's announcement, they will implement the new policies on October 18th this year. From the last time I heard about them, I think they said that they will soon announce policies regarding this matter. But in general, all gambling streamers, specifically slots, dice, and roulette streamers can still stream these games until the said date.

Quote from: theskillzdatklls on September 30, 2022, 05:01:13 AM

Even if YouTube were to allow hosting for gambling content, 0% chance that survives 10 years let alone even 1 year.

I know some content creators on YouTube that solely create contents about gambling for years. Until now they're fine.

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Quote from: Wexnident on September 27, 2022, 06:31:10 PM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on September 26, 2022, 05:43:59 PM

There are certain games that Twitch won't be allowing streamers to play while on their platform but, it's not generally gamblers that will be out of Twitch.
That's why for streamers, they'll only have to pick another game where they can still stream without compromising and violating Twitch's rules about gambling.
As for Drake, he's got the platform and he'll be big wherever he goes, his audience and followers will go to just to watch him.

I don't think switching games will be all it needs. The streamer needs to find a sports betting-centric casino or a poker-centric casino based on the announcement, which doesn't tick most casinos since almost all of them have a variety of dice and slot games that Twitch has banned (yes, as long as any casino contains these games, they're not allowed to stream it).

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So, we'll be making a policy update on October 18th to prohibit streaming of gambling sites that include slots, roulette, or dice games that aren't licensed ...

As you said though, Drake just needs to switch platforms but honestly, a loss in the audience is inevitable with that imo.

It's still Drake and he's got solid audience so that's not going to be a problem for him because we're going to see flock going with him wherever he leads them.
As I understand the rule, it's okay to place with the casino that has other banned games as long as you'll only play the allowed ones. That's how I understood it and maybe there are more clarity from what they have with the release of that statement.

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YouTube went from annoying to really annoying to bad to incredibly bad and is still doing what they can to become worse and worse each month. It's pretty much make-up tutorials, music videos and zero IQ comedy at this point or content that is on it's way to being deplatformed.

Even if YouTube were to allow hosting for gambling content, 0% chance that survives 10 years let alone even 1 year.

You need to base this stuff on hardened blockchain platforms that promote free speech to have any remote chance of longevity.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on September 29, 2022, 12:56:25 PM

Quote from: uneng on September 29, 2022, 12:38:31 PM

Youtube seems the most likely alternative, especially if they are able to profit an extra income from adsense. Actually, this kind of content is really popular there already, there are lots of gambling channels of all sizes. I don't see any other unpopular platforms growing soon because streamers were banned from Twitch for posting gambling content. Anyway, streamers making content about sports betting aren't in trouble at Twitch platform, as it will continue being allowed there, just like sports fantasy and poker as well. The only banned content are the traditional gambling games.

Currently some of the restriction also on the youtube of they think it is all against with their terms they will terminate those even though not too much gambling related they immediately remove those kind of contents else the streamers use different platform. for their promotions related to gambling and if they want to include still, they will make a short clip for advertisement and not the entire content of promotions.

Not that really much since the current issue was thrown out because of some certain streamer which is attached on gambling where they do make out some action just basing into that.They would never

intent to go into certain extent where they would be banning everything even not into those correlated with gambling.It would turn out that this platform is never been worth to do such streaming
and other related aspects.
It would be that just normal that they would really be finding another place where they could stream on if ever they get banned or prohibited on some place.
We do still have other choices left.

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Quote from: uneng on September 29, 2022, 12:38:31 PM

Youtube seems the most likely alternative, especially if they are able to profit an extra income from adsense. Actually, this kind of content is really popular there already, there are lots of gambling channels of all sizes. I don't see any other unpopular platforms growing soon because streamers were banned from Twitch for posting gambling content. Anyway, streamers making content about sports betting aren't in trouble at Twitch platform, as it will continue being allowed there, just like sports fantasy and poker as well. The only banned content are the traditional gambling games.

Currently some of the restriction also on the youtube of they think it is all against with their terms they will terminate those even though not too much gambling related they immediately remove those kind of contents else the streamers use different platform. for their promotions related to gambling and if they want to include still, they will make a short clip for advertisement and not the entire content of promotions.

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Youtube seems the most likely alternative, especially if they are able to profit an extra income from adsense. Actually, this kind of content is really popular there already, there are lots of gambling channels of all sizes. I don't see any other unpopular platforms growing soon because streamers were banned from Twitch for posting gambling content. Anyway, streamers making content about sports betting aren't in trouble at Twitch platform, as it will continue being allowed there, just like sports fantasy and poker as well. The only banned content are the traditional gambling games.

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Quote from: Porfirii on September 28, 2022, 04:46:30 PM

When we talk about gambling streamers, are we talking only about streamers who gamble with cryptocurrencies? or about gambling in general? Because I could understand the second policy (ban all) in order to protect sensitive people, but if the only ones affected are crypto gamblers specifically it would be quite hypocritical imho.

It should be about gambling in general IMO, AFAIK there are many non crypto streamers as well out there but I have not read the complete news of this issue.
Is twitch going to ban crypto gambling streamers only or it will be for all including fiat gambling streamers.
Not a fan of twitch as I do not like to watch live gambling stream, so I do not follow the news much.
Anyway, if twitch will ban all of them, it is basically a good moment for those who want to invest their money to create a new livestream platform specifically for gambling.

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When we talk about gambling streamers, are we talking only about streamers who gamble with cryptocurrencies? or about gambling in general? Because I could understand the second policy (ban all) in order to protect sensitive people, but if the only ones affected are crypto gamblers specifically it would be quite hypocritical imho.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on September 26, 2022, 10:50:49 PM

YouTube is also against these gambling steaming, so this will be hard for all the gambling streamers.
This industry now needs to stop, as no more options left for streaming.
Gambling sites will find other ways to promote their sites, might be youtube videos will be best for their case.
And regarding your request for Stunna, I guess she gonna just simply ignore it, as hosting a streaming platform is very difficult.
Hope this helps you OP.

I understand both points of it at the same time. Streaming services do not want to get in trouble and that is why they are banning these people and that make sense, because it doesn't worth it, they are making money from them so why would they "want" to ban them? They would love to have them and it would be a lot better for them since it's income that they are rejecting here.

However, they have to, because of the law they are afraid of and I get it. On the other hand, I understand streamers too, they might be gambling but they are earning probably a lot more in return, because they are getting donations and subscriptions what not as a profit for gambling on stream.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 28, 2022, 07:05:32 AM

Quote from: Wexnident on September 27, 2022, 06:31:10 PM

As you said though, Drake just needs to switch platforms but honestly, a loss in the audience is inevitable with that imo.

Maybe for the early stages of watching it will look reduced. But as promotions and prizes go on, I'm sure the audience will be interested in coming.

Exactly this, people will follow a streamer wherever he/she goes if there are promos and prizes. Maybe people will need time to transfer to some new place, but that will happen sooner or later, and for sure new people will start coming there eventually!

I guess it's crypto, it gave us an alternative, so now we know that we can always find one when we need it! And when you have the cash you can even create that alternative!

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Quote from: jpcfan on September 26, 2022, 03:54:17 AM

youtube will do what they do best, censor the biggest channels as soon as they are settled in.

Until it won't last long too, they'll for sure censor such things if it deem necessary. I think they will impose policies regarding gambling or one government organization sees that it has harm to the viewers, something like that. I often wonder, many will flock to streaming dApps now that Twitch is censoring gambling related contents. Time for web3 to shine?

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on September 27, 2022, 05:02:41 PM

However, Drake would be transferred on dlive.tv or in caffeine.tv that has been there that can be alternate to Twitch.

Dlive would be a perfect fit for influencers looking to stream casinos. I think Drake will give birth to a pioneer that other big casinos will follow. The Twitch case can no longer be genociated, the decision is unanimous. But the impact will lead to more streaming casinos, not even deadly. Because the more you are pressed, the more it explodes.

Quote from: Wexnident on September 27, 2022, 06:31:10 PM

As you said though, Drake just needs to switch platforms but honestly, a loss in the audience is inevitable with that imo.

Maybe for the early stages of watching it will look reduced. But as promotions and prizes go on, I'm sure the audience will be interested in coming. This is where the power of promotion will work hard in attracting outside audiences to new platforms. Usually, as the first promotion on streaming platforms held by casinos, it is always a target.
But so far as posted by Xposed they are still starting live on Twitch about 7 hours ago. It also indicates that there are still possible policies that have not been set by Twitch.

https://twitter.com/Xposed/status/1574979676820443143

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Quote from: maydna on September 28, 2022, 06:15:11 AM

Quote from: Viscore on September 26, 2022, 03:20:07 PM

Quote from: maydna on September 26, 2022, 05:26:53 AM

You can wait for the next announcement because I am sure that they will tell their fan where they will stream. That will not end the show, and even they can become bigger than before. Or perhaps, there are announcements from Twitch related to that banned.

But if Stunna can create a new website streaming to accommodate people who want to promote using live online, that will be a good idea because, yes, that will be a big business they can get.

Maybe that will be the best thing to do for now as Twitch will never end it’s show eventually. As for Drake, we aren’t even sure of his future plans so if ever the banning will continue, I guess another door will open for him as Drake is a very influential figure and that he could start seizing another good opportunities fit for him. I just hope another reputable gambling platform will be opening soon.

Someone like Drake can find other ways to promote and I think there will be media that will offer cooperation between them. And even though Twitch is now even stricter on the gambling industry, other streaming websites will still allow gambling, especially if they want to make more money from the gambling business. This will not stop here and the gambling business will continue to promote using other media, especially when they use the internet as the main medium for promotion.

He's fame is not limited only on twitch so there's no problem if twitch ban streaming of gambling activities since for sure he can find more ways just to promote their partnership. Currently we have lots of option to pick and for sure his influence can gather millions of people worldwide so its still a win for him and to stake even though they have been limited on one platform.

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Quote from: Viscore on September 26, 2022, 03:20:07 PM

Quote from: maydna on September 26, 2022, 05:26:53 AM

You can wait for the next announcement because I am sure that they will tell their fan where they will stream. That will not end the show, and even they can become bigger than before. Or perhaps, there are announcements from Twitch related to that banned.

But if Stunna can create a new website streaming to accommodate people who want to promote using live online, that will be a good idea because, yes, that will be a big business they can get.

Maybe that will be the best thing to do for now as Twitch will never end it’s show eventually. As for Drake, we aren’t even sure of his future plans so if ever the banning will continue, I guess another door will open for him as Drake is a very influential figure and that he could start seizing another good opportunities fit for him. I just hope another reputable gambling platform will be opening soon.

Someone like Drake can find other ways to promote and I think there will be media that will offer cooperation between them. And even though Twitch is now even stricter on the gambling industry, other streaming websites will still allow gambling, especially if they want to make more money from the gambling business. This will not stop here and the gambling business will continue to promote using other media, especially when they use the internet as the main medium for promotion.

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Who is Drake? Are you talking about the guy, who was begging his followers to give him money so that he could waste that money on gambling?
This basically seems like scamming, if you ask me. Are you concerned about him and his financial situation? Don't worry. He'll be fine.
I simply don't understand this mentality. Why would you give money to a gambler and watch him waste that money on gambling?
Can't you just waste your money gambling by yourself? Grin

Giving money to gamblers and watching them gamble online seems like another form of financial "simping". Just like the people, who buy Onlyfans subscriptions in order to watch e-girls.
Perhaps Drake could create an Onlyfans account and stream there. Grin

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on September 26, 2022, 05:43:59 PM

There are certain games that Twitch won't be allowing streamers to play while on their platform but, it's not generally gamblers that will be out of Twitch.
That's why for streamers, they'll only have to pick another game where they can still stream without compromising and violating Twitch's rules about gambling.
As for Drake, he's got the platform and he'll be big wherever he goes, his audience and followers will go to just to watch him.

I don't think switching games will be all it needs. The streamer needs to find a sports betting-centric casino or a poker-centric casino based on the announcement, which doesn't tick most casinos since almost all of them have a variety of dice and slot games that Twitch has banned (yes, as long as any casino contains these games, they're not allowed to stream it).

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So, we'll be making a policy update on October 18th to prohibit streaming of gambling sites that include slots, roulette, or dice games that aren't licensed ...

As you said though, Drake just needs to switch platforms but honestly, a loss in the audience is inevitable with that imo.

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There are several options suitable and only Stake and their management know what Is the best option for this marketing campaign. However in this specific case they have a very well known VIP. Any platform they will choose its easy they will have a lot of views "by default"

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