Topic: TYGRR.* assets on GLBSE delisted. - page 7. (Read 33293 times)

Starting to get interesting now

Response received. The ball is now in Goat's court.

Not cool.

He has 24 hours to send you the funds, otherwise things will get interesting.

Nefario and GLBSE seem to have completely abandoned Goat's asset holders and their obligation to secure their ownership interests. If that's not what's really happened, they really need to say so.

Would any Goat asset holders who have sent complaints to GLBSE support (preferably recently) please share what they've been getting back?

Nefario hasnt been on the forum for 3 days so its hard to say if he is even responding to emails either.

I think that gives us our answer. Your message was about as clear as it can be. If all he needed was an address to make payment, he now has it.

Nefario: If Goat didn't actually send that message, or didn't include a valid address, or you did pay him back and he's lying, or you didn't send the email Goat claims, or anything like that, *please* speak up. Because now it's really looking like your holding undisputed funds to obtain leverage in a legitimate dispute. Because we're only hearing one side of this story, and it is making you look very bad.

Bitcoin-assets indeed.

Most likely #bitcoin-assets.

Which channel is this from?

Ironically,


Note: I'm posting logs lately mostly to illustrate for the benefit of forum-hobbled minds that yes, in fact irc is where it's at.

Another reason why you should NOT trust GLBSE.

The fact that this even might be true says a lot about the importance of confidence in one's exchange. When are we going to hear from GLBSE PR?

On LTC-GLOBAL all asset issuers can see the email addresses and number of shares for all their shareholders.  No vendor lock-in.  I don't understand why GLBSE has such a problem wrapping their brains around this.  An email address is not exactly a sensitive piece of information.

And yeah, is it just me or has just about everything tanked on GLBSE.  I set all my asks, come back a day later and cut 'em in half, come back a day later, cut 'em again.  Still no takers.  I think how Nefario handled this just cost us all a small fortune.   

Hehe.
Of course, it's all because The Goat has done nothing wrong - right?

So now you have chosen to cover up your ass, instead of getting paid for being his lying bitch?
Sounds like quite some desperation... But I am afraid it won't help you much - you will still end up in jail so better start buying some lubricants...
A pretty boy like you, with such a big experience of being a bitch - it will be a great gift for your new mates

I'm quite sure that most registered securities (at least, and at least in the US) require, for example, the company to keep a list of registered shareholders, and their contact information, so that they can be paid dividends, and be sent info/invites to shareholders' meetings. I can't say what a bond issuer might be required to do.

However, the claimcode is a terribly conceived plan......has the look of Patrick Strateman all over it. Yeah....that one went well...let's try it with a little twist this time, eh? No thanks. I'm not taking my chances with any more assets. I have a couple hundred more shares of SS to unload & all I have are delisted assets. I will not be getting anymore assets delisted out from under my trading position. ugh. let the next wave of scams begin.

Yeah. wouldn't surprise me that's why the GLBSE site is so fast. meh. Be curious for a blockchain forensics expert to see if they can spot a real withdrawal run.

That's probably a better idea. However, to make that work, people would have to know a key to encrypt messages to Goat with and would need a contact address at Tormail. This scheme could have been made to work, but it would have required a process like the following:

1) GLBSE suspends trading and deletes orders on Goat's assets. GLBSE gives its customers who hold Goat assets a message saying that the stocks are in the process of being delisted by GLBSE, that trading is suspended, and that a claim process will be offered as soon as possible.

2) GLBSE and Goat work out a redemption plan. They decide if there's a fixed timeframe for claims, who will handle the claims, how they will be sent, and so on.

3) GLBSE forwards to asset owners a letter from Goat documenting the agreed redemption plan.

That it does not seem GLBSE even attempted this is a *big* problem. That GLBSE doesn't have a policy on how delisting will proceed is a *big* problem. That GLBSE appears to completely disregard its obligation to secure its customers' ownership interests in their assets is a stunning problem.

This is, of course, assuming that they didn't attempt to work out a delisting agreement with Goat. We haven't heard GLBSE's side yet really. But they better say something soon, because it looks *really* bad. Goat has already publicly stated that he has no problem with them issuing a statement. But it's possible they have information they can't share with us that might change this view. But GLBSE, heads up, this is a serious PR problem. You need to do something about it.

Maybe Tormail with Tor would work as a cutout if sentient cutouts are, as they could well be, untrustworthy?

-MarkM-

But their claim code scheme makes using a cut out almost impossible. If someone uses a cut out, what happens if the cut out tells them that Goat said the claim code was already used? If the idea of the claim code scheme was to facilitate using a cut out, it's even more poorly designed than I thought.

Is that why the site has been so fast lately? Or coincidence?

He will likely claim that it is the privacy laws that prevent him telling Goat himself everyone's contact information.

He wants to leave it to them to choose to reveal it to Goat or not or maybe even whether to employ a cut-out to represent them who will like GLBSE not reveal their contact info to Goat.

-MarkM-