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September 24, 2019, 11:06:26 PM
For those who are interested in the numbers for the Fury vs Wallin fight:

It generated almost $1 Million in live gate tickets alone, according to this article:

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The unbeaten and outspoken heavyweight from England survived a hellacious cut over his right eye and a stiff challenge from lefthanded Swedish contender Otto Wallin to emerge victorious in a unanimous decision win. Their Sept. 14 headliner at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada produced high drama in the ring, along with $999,722.50 at the live gate.

The box office total was derived from 3,577 tickets sold, according to final receipts as confirmed to BoxingScene.com by the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-wallin-generates-nearly-1-million-from-3577-tickets-sold--142826

So it did get boxing fans to watch the match live in Vegas and it proves that Tyson Fury can bring fans of his own. So it's going to be interesting what could be the possible numbers when Wilder vs Fury rematch happens. Wilder is also a draw, make no mistakes about it, but for me it looks like Fury is the A-side here, just saying.
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September 24, 2019, 07:33:24 PM
Anyone got a date for the Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder rematch? There was a statement by Deontay after Fury won the fight against Wallin. According to him, his next fight is going to be against Luis Ortiz (rematch) by the end of this year and after that he is going to take on Fury (probably around February 2020).

That February 2020 might be move since they need to heal that nasty cut but probably 2020 might be the year for this fight to take place.

After the fight against Fury, Wilder will be up against Andy Ruiz Jr.
This overconfident dude huh, he think that he would win against Fury or he is afraid of Anthony Joshua?

I can see betting games being formed in relation to how long will Tyson Fury take off the game to heal from such massive pierces. Bone was exposed, it was really dangerous to keep that fight going. We saw once again the big machinery of boxing at work, the wouldn't let another flop happening, Tyson was needed to win. Most fighters would have thrown the towel, but Fury's heart is unmatched.

My oiriginal bet still stands: I believe Fury will push Wilder to a decision again, and this time Fury will get an UD. Wilder got pretty much outboxed, but got a single punch, just like Wallins got a lucky punch that cut him, but skills wise, both got exposed.
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September 20, 2019, 08:39:49 PM
Anyone got a date for the Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder rematch? There was a statement by Deontay after Fury won the fight against Wallin. According to him, his next fight is going to be against Luis Ortiz (rematch) by the end of this year and after that he is going to take on Fury (probably around February 2020).

That February 2020 might be move since they need to heal that nasty cut but probably 2020 might be the year for this fight to take place.

After the fight against Fury, Wilder will be up against Andy Ruiz Jr.
This overconfident dude huh, he think that he would win against Fury or he is afraid of Anthony Joshua?
legendary
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September 20, 2019, 08:22:07 PM
@Vishnu.Reang. The decision to fight is not for Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder only. There are promoters and tv deals that need to be negotiated. Tyson Fury signed a new fight deal with ESPN, Deontay is signed with Showtime. This causes negotiations to take longer.
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September 20, 2019, 09:44:26 AM
@Vishnu.Reang. Fighters will talk, however, negotiations will make the fights hard to organize. There might not be a fight between Tyson and Deontay until 2021, I reckon. This might become the new Money Mayweather versus Pacman 2, coming soon hehehehe.

2021 is too far and I don't think that both Fury and Deontay Wilder will wait for that long. For Deontay, the fight against Fury is going to bring revenues like no other fight. So I really doubt whether he will wait any more than 6-7 moths. Fury also doesn't have any better options. His recent fights have been against mediocre opponents. He also needs a quality rival, such as Deontay.
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September 20, 2019, 09:31:04 AM
I almost had a heart attack watching this. Vegas was going crazy the night of the fight when Tyson got that massive cut, TWICE on the same eye. The fight was really near to TKO stoppage which would mean three things:

1) Tyson losses his undefeated record
2) The Wilder rematch gets possibly ruined
3) Massive, epic loses on the gambling scene, and massive wins as well

However there are great news with this bout: This confirms that there isn't room for rigged fights in elite boxing. You couldn't script that mess of a fight. I was expecting a boring one sided match and those cuts made my cortisol rise for the remaining of the fight as we were about to witness the biggest upset ever in possibly any sports.
legendary
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September 19, 2019, 07:51:15 PM
@Vishnu.Reang. Fighters will talk, however, negotiations will make the fights hard to organize. There might not be a fight between Tyson and Deontay until 2021, I reckon. This might become the new Money Mayweather versus Pacman 2, coming soon hehehehe.

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September 19, 2019, 01:05:17 PM
Anyone got a date for the Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder rematch? There was a statement by Deontay after Fury won the fight against Wallin. According to him, his next fight is going to be against Luis Ortiz (rematch) by the end of this year and after that he is going to take on Fury (probably around February 2020). After the fight against Fury, Wilder will be up against Andy Ruiz Jr.
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September 18, 2019, 06:55:14 PM
For at least 5-6 rounds straight it was a one way street with Fury just pounding on his mediocre opponent, and yet he still can't put him down,

and gets into a very vulnerable situation and almost loses it on the last round, not a convincing effort at all by Tyson Fury...

He needed this kind of fight and that cut also, to put him on the ground and motivated for big fights.
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September 18, 2019, 03:02:14 PM
Fury won every round, the only reason people are criticising him is because of the deep cut above his eye. His chances of beating Wilder are no higher or lower based on the result of this fight. Wilder vs Fury 2 will be a good fight.

For at least 5-6 rounds straight it was a one way street with Fury just pounding on his mediocre opponent, and yet he still can't put him down,

and gets into a very vulnerable situation and almost loses it on the last round, not a convincing effort at all by Tyson Fury...
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September 18, 2019, 02:53:31 PM
Fury won every round, the only reason people are criticising him is because of the deep cut above his eye. His chances of beating Wilder are no higher or lower based on the result of this fight. Wilder vs Fury 2 will be a good fight.
I agree, the cut he got in his eye limited him a great deal and if we consider that the cut happened very early in the fight then I will say that I find his performance to be impressive while fighting with such a handicap, on the other hand Otto Wallin had no chance of winning this fight and there were even some moments were Tyson Fury seemed like he had him but he found ways to avoid being knocked out, all in all it was a decent demonstration by Tyson Fury and I cannot wait anymore to see him fighting Wilder again.
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September 18, 2019, 04:58:54 AM
Fury won every round, the only reason people are criticising him is because of the deep cut above his eye. His chances of beating Wilder are no higher or lower based on the result of this fight. Wilder vs Fury 2 will be a good fight.
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September 18, 2019, 12:41:23 AM
Wallins should take few lessons from Ruiz how to get few lbs quick Smiley

That is very easy. Teach Tyson Fury to eat Mexican food like burritos and tacos with the beans, guacamole and everything hehehe.

In any case, is this Tyson Fury's bait for Deontay? Is he only making himself appear a little weak?

I don't think it's a bait, Tyson really did have a lot of overcome in the Wallin fight and it seems he doesn't have a gas tank to stay 12 rounds as evident in the Wallin fight. To be fair, both of them are exhausted and tired in the last round and Tyson was hit during that round just like the Wilder fight, but the good thing is that he was able to get up. So this is not a bait fight, he really did have to dig very hard and squeeze a hard fought win.
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September 17, 2019, 10:22:17 PM
Wallins should take few lessons from Ruiz how to get few lbs quick Smiley

That is very easy. Teach Tyson Fury to eat Mexican food like burritos and tacos with the beans, guacamole and everything hehehe.

In any case, is this Tyson Fury's bait for Deontay? Is he only making himself appear a little weak?
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September 17, 2019, 03:49:54 AM
This got me thinking as well, if it's on the other shoes, Otto got cut and bloodied, I think the referee are going to stop it and won't allow it to go to distance. But since it was Tyson Fury who got the injury early the referee or the doctor itself let the fight continue.

There are news specially coming from Frank Warren, that the Wilder fight me be delayed because they want the cut to be fully healed.

Anyway, this thread should be lock by the OP. The fight is over now.

The champion will almost always get the benefit of the doubt in a boxing match, that's just how it goes. The referee knows that Tyson Fury is an experienced boxer, and probably knows more than him about how his body is operating and what to do in that situation. Of course, when it comes to a less experienced fighter they might not have this knowhow, so they would be more inclined to stop the fight.

There was a similar cut in the recent fight with Badou Jack against Marcus Browne, though this cut was deeper and above both eyes, making it very hard for Jack to see. The referee called an early stop to the fight after a couple of rounds and it went to decision where Jack lost.

https://youtu.be/VebwIrJNz-Q
Correct, the champion always get the benefit of the doubt, specially with names like Tyson Fury.

I also remember Vitaly vs Lennox, Vitaly was cut badly, they should have stop the fight then. But Vitaly continue the ring doctor finally stop the fight because of the severity of the cut. However, that injury Vitaly had haunted him for the rest of his boxing career because that cut didn't fully heal and he was easily busted after that one.

Good call for Warren to heal first the wound, but I don't know how long it will take it though. Because they seems to announce the fight will Wilder next year Feb 2020.
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September 17, 2019, 03:08:38 AM
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This got me thinking as well, if it's on the other shoes, Otto got cut and bloodied, I think the referee are going to stop it and won't allow it to go to distance. But since it was Tyson Fury who got the injury early the referee or the doctor itself let the fight continue.

There are news specially coming from Frank Warren, that the Wilder fight me be delayed because they want the cut to be fully healed.

Anyway, this thread should be lock by the OP. The fight is over now.

The champion will almost always get the benefit of the doubt in a boxing match, that's just how it goes. The referee knows that Tyson Fury is an experienced boxer, and probably knows more than him about how his body is operating and what to do in that situation. Of course, when it comes to a less experienced fighter they might not have this knowhow, so they would be more inclined to stop the fight.

There was a similar cut in the recent fight with Badou Jack against Marcus Browne, though this cut was deeper and above both eyes, making it very hard for Jack to see. The referee called an early stop to the fight after a couple of rounds and it went to decision where Jack lost.

https://youtu.be/VebwIrJNz-Q
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September 16, 2019, 11:37:54 PM
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This got me thinking as well, if it's on the other shoes, Otto got cut and bloodied, I think the referee are going to stop it and won't allow it to go to distance. But since it was Tyson Fury who got the injury early the referee or the doctor itself let the fight continue.

There are news specially coming from Frank Warren, that the Wilder fight me be delayed because they want the cut to be fully healed.

Anyway, this thread should be lock by the OP. The fight is over now.
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September 16, 2019, 06:32:43 PM
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Well if that wasnt just a fun bloody bath for all of our entertainment
We have to give much respect to the SWEDE for making the lineal HW CHAMP Look like a old man for the night
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September 16, 2019, 04:36:32 AM
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The supposedly easy fight for Tyson prove to be wrong. He was badly hurt in the 12 rounds, had a nasty cut early and then the style, (orthodox vs southpaw) clash of heads. But both are really tired at the last round specially Wallins.

Champions should not underestimate their opponents thus not training well prior to the fight. We have seen too many of this happened already and they should learned from it and take the fight seriously and think that there is no such thing as an easy fight, but we have also to credit Wallins as his performance exceeded everyone's expectation though. But on Fury's case, the father blame the team on his poor showing.

Tyson was cut early and this takes away much of his advantage. Maybe he can't really see that good and his vision his blurred, but the good thing is that he won even though it is really a difficult fight because he was handicap.

I don't think that his father has the right to blame his team or trainers, no one expects that he will be cut in this fight and there's no way that you can train for that.
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September 16, 2019, 04:19:18 AM
#95
The supposedly easy fight for Tyson prove to be wrong. He was badly hurt in the 12 rounds, had a nasty cut early and then the style, (orthodox vs southpaw) clash of heads. But both are really tired at the last round specially Wallins.

Champions should not underestimate their opponents thus not training well prior to the fight. We have seen too many of this happened already and they should learned from it and take the fight seriously and think that there is no such thing as an easy fight, but we have also to credit Wallins as his performance exceeded everyone's expectation though. But on Fury's case, the father blame the team on his poor showing.
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