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September 09, 2019, 07:59:53 PM
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Tyson Fury by ko 1.31 is good value
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September 06, 2019, 12:40:29 PM
#53
The odds are 1/33 for Tyson Fury to win.

https://www.oddschecker.com/insight/boxing/20190813-tyson-fury-v-otto-wallin-odds-revealed

Otto Wallin comes in at 11/1, which means the bookies are heavily skewed on this one.

However, based on the fact that Fury dethroned Klitschko and arguably bested Wilder without even being in tip top form, 1/33 looks good.

Tempted to put my life savings on Fury.

Normally I don't make bets on these sort of lop-sided matches. Otto Wallins don't have any chance of a win. But the returns, if you bet for Fury is too low, at around 3%. You can argue that 3% in a few days is good return, but always remember that miracles happen every now and then. If somehow Fury loses, then all of your investment will be gone. Not worth taking that much risk for just 3%.

Yep, I would say that most boxing/fighting matches where a fighter is way stronger and better than the other and the returns are shit like 3-5% it's absolutely not worth it to risk your money on them. We have seen plenty of legends get randomly ko'd, it can definitely happen even if it's improbable, you can win dozens of bets and then lose 1 randomly and boom, all your money is gone and for what? to win 3-5% each bet.
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September 05, 2019, 06:57:36 PM
#52
I watched the videos of Tyson Fury is fast at his size and weight. I think he will overcome Otto Wallins here but in this weight class, anything can happen. Otto Wallins is not on going to be included in the top 5 of WBA for nothing. He can slug it out with Tyson Fury. Current odds are Tyson Fury -2632 and Otto Wallin +1305.
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September 03, 2019, 09:32:02 PM
#51
We are are all so fast to criticize FURY choice of opponent for this match but maybe we will see it as a preparation fight for WILDER

Tyson Fury needed a “big guy” to prepare for Deontay Wilder says Bob Arum

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2019/09/tyson-fury-needed-a-big-guy-to-prepare-for-deontay-wilder-says-bob-arum/

Otto Wallin may be relatively unknown, and may not be a superstar like Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder. But let's not forget the fact that he is currently ranked at number 4 in the World Boxing Association (WBA) heavyweight ranking list. Currently he is holding the European Union heavyweight title from the EBU (after defeating Adrian Granat last year).

If you compare the three fighters by their height, then Wallin is the only one who is below 200 cm (height of 197 cm and reach 198 cm). For Fury, it is 206/216 respectively and for Deontay Wilder the height and reach is 201/211. Fury holds a reach advantage of 18 cm against Wallin and this may be very difficult for the latter to overcome.
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September 02, 2019, 11:44:19 PM
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We are are all so fast to criticize FURY choice of opponent for this match but maybe we will see it as a preparation fight for WILDER

Tyson Fury needed a “big guy” to prepare for Deontay Wilder says Bob Arum

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2019/09/tyson-fury-needed-a-big-guy-to-prepare-for-deontay-wilder-says-bob-arum/
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September 02, 2019, 11:02:10 PM
#49
I mean really is this the best opponent they could find for this TYSON FURY character come on  Huh
We all want to see TYSON compete with 1 other person WILDER so anything other then that is just going to be very long shots

Agreed! This fight is not worthy of its own thread. Treat this similar to a prequel to the real movie and should be discussed in the Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder rematch thread hehehe.
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September 02, 2019, 07:08:49 PM
#48
I think realistically it's pretty safe to go all in on Fury winning, in reality there is a less than 1/33 chance that Wallin will win, so the odds are in our favor.

https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/tyson-fury-v-otto-wallin/winner

Looking at the odds here, it seems most sites have improved the odds to 1/25, while some are even as low as 1/20.

There is practically zero chance that Otto can win, therefore betting with a 4% chance of failure is pretty good.

Yep, but you need to risk more money though in order to get at least a "good" win in terms of profitability. Fury is just an elite boxer and I agree that Otto's also chance is to caught Tyson flashed on the head, a punch that he didn't expect to make an upset and a create a lot of what if scenario in heavyweight right now.
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September 02, 2019, 09:22:40 AM
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I think realistically it's pretty safe to go all in on Fury winning, in reality there is a less than 1/33 chance that Wallin will win, so the odds are in our favor.

https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/tyson-fury-v-otto-wallin/winner

Looking at the odds here, it seems most sites have improved the odds to 1/25, while some are even as low as 1/20.

There is practically zero chance that Otto can win, therefore betting with a 4% chance of failure is pretty good.
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September 01, 2019, 05:44:42 PM
#46
The odds are 1/33 for Tyson Fury to win.

https://www.oddschecker.com/insight/boxing/20190813-tyson-fury-v-otto-wallin-odds-revealed

Otto Wallin comes in at 11/1, which means the bookies are heavily skewed on this one.

However, based on the fact that Fury dethroned Klitschko and arguably bested Wilder without even being in tip top form, 1/33 looks good.

Tempted to put my life savings on Fury.

Normally I don't make bets on these sort of lop-sided matches. Otto Wallins don't have any chance of a win. But the returns, if you bet for Fury is too low, at around 3%. You can argue that 3% in a few days is good return, but always remember that miracles happen every now and then. If somehow Fury loses, then all of your investment will be gone. Not worth taking that much risk for just 3%.

3% is a big amount when you invest in any other business, but it is very low amount in sports betting. I never bet unless the profit margin are atleast 10% or above. Many people think it is more safer to bet on low odds, but i think the risk of losing is also very high in case the result turn out to be unexpected ones.
I would suggest to bet with 10 percent of your portfolio on Tyson in this match.

Going all in? Your choice but expect to get wrecked when there's an upset match.3% isnt really a worthy bet for you to all in.Always had that risk management thing on your mind.
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September 01, 2019, 09:25:59 AM
#45
The odds are 1/33 for Tyson Fury to win.

https://www.oddschecker.com/insight/boxing/20190813-tyson-fury-v-otto-wallin-odds-revealed

Otto Wallin comes in at 11/1, which means the bookies are heavily skewed on this one.

However, based on the fact that Fury dethroned Klitschko and arguably bested Wilder without even being in tip top form, 1/33 looks good.

Tempted to put my life savings on Fury.

Normally I don't make bets on these sort of lop-sided matches. Otto Wallins don't have any chance of a win. But the returns, if you bet for Fury is too low, at around 3%. You can argue that 3% in a few days is good return, but always remember that miracles happen every now and then. If somehow Fury loses, then all of your investment will be gone. Not worth taking that much risk for just 3%.

3% is a big amount when you invest in any other business, but it is very low amount in sports betting. I never bet unless the profit margin are atleast 10% or above. Many people think it is more safer to bet on low odds, but i think the risk of losing is also very high in case the result turn out to be unexpected ones.
I would suggest to bet with 10 percent of your portfolio on Tyson in this match.
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September 01, 2019, 06:51:58 AM
#44
The odds are 1/33 for Tyson Fury to win.

https://www.oddschecker.com/insight/boxing/20190813-tyson-fury-v-otto-wallin-odds-revealed

Otto Wallin comes in at 11/1, which means the bookies are heavily skewed on this one.

However, based on the fact that Fury dethroned Klitschko and arguably bested Wilder without even being in tip top form, 1/33 looks good.

Tempted to put my life savings on Fury.

Normally I don't make bets on these sort of lop-sided matches. Otto Wallins don't have any chance of a win. But the returns, if you bet for Fury is too low, at around 3%. You can argue that 3% in a few days is good return, but always remember that miracles happen every now and then. If somehow Fury loses, then all of your investment will be gone. Not worth taking that much risk for just 3%.
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September 01, 2019, 06:12:05 AM
#43
This match should be an easy work for Tyson Fury.
Absolutely and I don’t know why the promoter brings this match to reality when the comparison is too far from each other in right manner of word is “Not Match” ,i was thinking that do they building Tyson’s career?
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No offense for the other dude but seriously, I can't seem to find any decent fight/match-ups this guy had.
Fans will stand for their Boxers in every step of the way so I think that they will accept what would be the outcome of the match though they already know the disadvantages  of their idol
 
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And lo, 62% KO rate from an unknown fighter against a rising star? I don't think stats would matter by then. I'd chuck in some money on Tyson's side and let him do the dirty work on the ring.
Not this time that I will be betting as I have just won last Manny Pacquiao fight.but Incase mind changed before the fight I have some amount reserved for boxing game because I’m an enthusiast
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September 01, 2019, 05:43:47 AM
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This match should be an easy work for Tyson Fury. No offense for the other dude but seriously, I can't seem to find any decent fight/match-ups this guy had. And lo, 62% KO rate from an unknown fighter against a rising star? I don't think stats would matter by then. I'd chuck in some money on Tyson's side and let him do the dirty work on the ring.

The odds are 1/33 for Tyson Fury to win.

https://www.oddschecker.com/insight/boxing/20190813-tyson-fury-v-otto-wallin-odds-revealed

Otto Wallin comes in at 11/1, which means the bookies are heavily skewed on this one.

However, based on the fact that Fury dethroned Klitschko and arguably bested Wilder without even being in tip top form, 1/33 looks good.

Tempted to put my life savings on Fury.

Seriously you are putting all of your savings in a single match on Tyson.  Don't do it  Shocked

Even if you are hundred percent sure that you will win, it is not recommended to put all your amount in a single Match. Anything many happen on a day maybe the things have been scripted for Otto Wallins to win this fight.

Play safe !

He was tempted but I think there’s no chance he will do that as we know how risky gambling is and even that the big advantage is in Tyson’s part yet not enough to be rest assured of winning
Boxers can beat each other’s with their Punches as this was their training and capacity to enter that rankings .every boxers had beat opponent already so the chance is always there



I was thinking of putting the bet also for Tyson but since I’m not really a fan I guess small amount will be for this fight

I have seen many times that people are tempted for something and then they do it for reality.  It is the greed which make us do such things.  Few times I promise that I will not spend more than a certain amount on a particular match but when it comes to the actual betting I did more than and what should have been done, unfortunately I lost that amount.

I know many people will  bet big amount on Tyson for this match and in case any upset happens,  they will lose big amount.
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September 01, 2019, 03:21:57 AM
#41
This match should be an easy work for Tyson Fury. No offense for the other dude but seriously, I can't seem to find any decent fight/match-ups this guy had. And lo, 62% KO rate from an unknown fighter against a rising star? I don't think stats would matter by then. I'd chuck in some money on Tyson's side and let him do the dirty work on the ring.

The odds are 1/33 for Tyson Fury to win.

https://www.oddschecker.com/insight/boxing/20190813-tyson-fury-v-otto-wallin-odds-revealed

Otto Wallin comes in at 11/1, which means the bookies are heavily skewed on this one.

However, based on the fact that Fury dethroned Klitschko and arguably bested Wilder without even being in tip top form, 1/33 looks good.

Tempted to put my life savings on Fury.

Seriously you are putting all of your savings in a single match on Tyson.  Don't do it  Shocked

Even if you are hundred percent sure that you will win, it is not recommended to put all your amount in a single Match. Anything many happen on a day maybe the things have been scripted for Otto Wallins to win this fight.

Play safe !

He was tempted but I think there’s no chance he will do that as we know how risky gambling is and even that the big advantage is in Tyson’s part yet not enough to be rest assured of winning
Boxers can beat each other’s with their Punches as this was their training and capacity to enter that rankings .every boxers had beat opponent already so the chance is always there



I was thinking of putting the bet also for Tyson but since I’m not really a fan I guess small amount will be for this fight
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September 01, 2019, 02:46:03 AM
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This match should be an easy work for Tyson Fury. No offense for the other dude but seriously, I can't seem to find any decent fight/match-ups this guy had. And lo, 62% KO rate from an unknown fighter against a rising star? I don't think stats would matter by then. I'd chuck in some money on Tyson's side and let him do the dirty work on the ring.

The odds are 1/33 for Tyson Fury to win.

https://www.oddschecker.com/insight/boxing/20190813-tyson-fury-v-otto-wallin-odds-revealed

Otto Wallin comes in at 11/1, which means the bookies are heavily skewed on this one.

However, based on the fact that Fury dethroned Klitschko and arguably bested Wilder without even being in tip top form, 1/33 looks good.

Tempted to put my life savings on Fury.

Seriously you are putting all of your savings in a single match on Tyson.  Don't do it  Shocked

Even if you are hundred percent sure that you will win, it is not recommended to put all your amount in a single Match. Anything many happen on a day maybe the things have been scripted for Otto Wallins to win this fight.

Play safe !
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August 27, 2019, 02:49:29 AM
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This match should be an easy work for Tyson Fury. No offense for the other dude but seriously, I can't seem to find any decent fight/match-ups this guy had. And lo, 62% KO rate from an unknown fighter against a rising star? I don't think stats would matter by then. I'd chuck in some money on Tyson's side and let him do the dirty work on the ring.

The odds are 1/33 for Tyson Fury to win.

https://www.oddschecker.com/insight/boxing/20190813-tyson-fury-v-otto-wallin-odds-revealed

Otto Wallin comes in at 11/1, which means the bookies are heavily skewed on this one.

However, based on the fact that Fury dethroned Klitschko and arguably bested Wilder without even being in tip top form, 1/33 looks good.

Tempted to put my life savings on Fury.
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August 27, 2019, 12:31:01 AM
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This match should be an easy work for Tyson Fury. No offense for the other dude but seriously, I can't seem to find any decent fight/match-ups this guy had. And lo, 62% KO rate from an unknown fighter against a rising star? I don't think stats would matter by then. I'd chuck in some money on Tyson's side and let him do the dirty work on the ring.
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August 26, 2019, 11:37:26 PM
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Just checked Otto Wallins boxrec, no offense, but I don't see any familiars names in his resume.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/651121.

So I'm not surprised by the odds by the bookies here. Although he has a KO rate of 62%, I doubt that he can land anything on Tyson Fury because Tyson is a pure technical boxer here. Doesn't matter if Wallin is southpaw, Fury can adjust his style as well in the middle of the fight. Fury will just toy with Otto here, and then KO him in early to mid rounds, that's the way I see this fight will play.

I've been seeing reviews on Otto Wallin's past opponents and his current coach/teacher. They rate the current coach as better than Tim Schwartz's (former Tyson opponent). However that list of 20 fights isn't as good as Schwartz's, far from it. Tim had some WBO wins.
This guy has a 20 win streak and out of those 20, only 2 tittle related stuff.

And apparently he has some frauded fights, amazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksZJZCC2h0U

You guys have to watch this. I think this might the easiest money ever. If I was rich and I had 1 million extra bucks lying around, I would put 1 million on Tyson winning.


There’s no denying that Fury is the far superior boxer, but let’s not forget what happened to Joshua in his fight against Ruiz who was a player we barely had heard about and yet he lost his title to him. Ottos winning streak also makes me think twice whether I should risk my money or not, as there’s not much information about him which makes him more dangerous and unpredictable.
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August 26, 2019, 02:10:46 PM
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I mean didn't you see Yarde vs Kovalev? It goes to show that KO % isn't everything.

I do not follow Kovalevs career. Dont like him as a persons. His Summer 2019 was reach for accidents. Assaulted woman, harrased other on the plane... Punched woman to the face this Winter. Nasty persons. He should better prove his strenth on the ring, but not outside it. He allows him self to much.
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August 26, 2019, 09:19:18 AM
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I don't think I would want to bet on Tyson on this match. The reason is simple the enemy you know is less of an adversary than the one you don't know. A man with no wikipedia page to even understand a little bit about him taking on a Tyson signifies that there is more than what we can just write off as a nobody. For me Tyson is old, he should focus on his old age and his cannabis business which I have been reading is doing well for him and also think this match is predicated on his intention of raising funds for his cannabis ranch since its far from its intended completion date.

Who needs a wiki, when there is a https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/651121 ?

Otto is not the strongest opponent, but he sure knows how to KO a persons (13/20 his wins are KO). Yes, his opponents were not the tops, but I see he fought different boxing school (Cuba, Europe, Soviet styles) and ended as a winner.

Otto has never fought anybody in the top 50.  There is a HUGE skill gap between top ranked fighters and bottom feeders.

It's not hard to have a perfect knockout record if you are only fighting bums.

I mean didn't you see Yarde vs Kovalev? It goes to show that KO % isn't everything.
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