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Quote from: Issa56 on April 18, 2023, 08:49:33 AM

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Chelsea will be playing against Real Madrid today, I believe it will be a easy win for Real Madrid, am expecting real Madrid to score like two goals in today's match.

Then you should have no problem putting your money on them then. I think the bookmakers are doing you a great favor with line at 2.50 for Real Madrid to win.

Chelsea will probably try to up the tempo from the kickoff to catch RM's defense by surprise but Carlo already know this for sure. This game looks kinda tricky to me and I still cannot decide where to bet. I'm thinking of a draw or under 2.5.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on April 18, 2023, 09:55:28 AM

Surely many will favor Real Madrid in this match. Because everyone also realizes that Chelsea is really getting worse at the moment. Even Lampard has not been able to get good enough results for Chelsea after he became coach at Chelsea until the end of the season. But I don't think Chelsea will let this game go easy for Real Madrid. Chelsea, as the host, also did not want to disappoint their supporters again. so Chelsea's motivation in this match should really be very high.

Well, however Real Madrid must remain vigilant with all possibilities. Because this match is Chelsea's last match in the Champions League, that way they will do anything even if they have to play quite hard. Nothing is impossible, although I remain optimistic and on the path of Real Madrid. Especially after having 2 points in Leg 1 of course for Madrid, this match will continue to play as usual to optimize the goals as best as possible.

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on April 18, 2023, 10:29:39 AM

You are entirely right, just because someone was a successful player it doesn't mean he is also a successful coach however there are many coaches who were successful players before and Zidane is one good example of it. But Lampard is not really a successful coach and he didn't reach any achievements yet.
Regardless of that, I think no matter if Lampard is coaching Chslea or another person because Chslea is not in a situation to bear Real Madrid.

Lampard arrival in such a short time to target the Champions League is clearly very difficult. He is required to manage a team that has to be ready against a stable club like Real Madrid, so the results will be quite bad. It is evident that Lampard is still trying various strategies, while Madrid already has a plan that is quite far from Ancelotti.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on April 18, 2023, 10:32:21 AM

I also favored Real Madrid to qualify for the semifinals, but in the second leg at Stamford Bridge I was more certain that it would be a draw.
I expect high spirits will occur to convince the Stamford Bridge public that Chelsea always try to give their best.
Chelsea is not in the best shape realized by Carlo Ancelotti, but Ancelotti will also aim for goals in London from the early minutes to avoid Chelsea scoring 2 goals.

Real Madrid are in a better shape than Chelsea and if Chelsea fail to control Modric, Vinicius and Benzema, they will fail in a second match. It sounds impossible for the to control those players as they already failed in a first match.

More than that, Real Madrid also have Rodrygo who is another Vinicius and Kroos can make good key passes too. The return of Kante could not help Chelsea to control Modric in a first match and they will get more issues in a second leg. Real Madrid won't easily lose big advantage with two leading goals even at Stamford Bridge. In general, Chelsea players are not at their best personal forms as well as their whole team are in bad streak too.

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I expect Real to do what’s required tonight to advance to the semi final. The other tie is where it gets interesting though, Milan lead 1-0 on aggregate but Napoli at home are something else. I have a real feeling that they will turn the tie on its head and get to the semi final. Victor Osimhen will have a big say I think, he’s ready to explode on the biggest stage as an elite, world class striker.

Real Madrid are having good advantage over Chelsea at the moment. Their qualifying for the semi-finals is already very visible. The concern now should be if Chelsea can avoid conceding more goals at home today. It is really sad the blues had to end the season trophyless. Milan on the other hand have been lucky in their last two meetings with Napoli both in the Champions League and Domestic League. I don't know if Victor Oshimen is back to the team to improve Napoli's attack. If he is still absent Milan might have advantage over Napoli

Chelsea beating Real Madrid today is very possible based of past records but hugely not possible with this current squad, the coach and management. I hate to say but at the moment, it's impossible for Chelsea to eliminate Real Madrid. Chelsea may win today but they won't qualify. Real Madrid is just too good for Chelsea. Chelsea is facing Real Madrid at the wrong time and I don’t see any miracle happening tonight but Real Madrid will still score.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on April 18, 2023, 08:35:04 AM

Someone can be successful as a player, but that does not guarantee that he will also be successful as a coach. Frank Lampard has no doubt that he was a reliable player in the past, but to become a coach, in my opinion, now is not the time. He must first learn a lot to be able to repeat the same success when he became a player on the field. He still needs a process to achieve that.

I also think the same as you, I can't expect more that Chelsea can comeback in leg 2 against Real Madrdi, maybe it's even a miracle to see Chelsea win again even until the end of the competition in the EPL (if still coached by Frank Lampard) I can only I hope Chelsea doesn't get relegated.

Quote from: Hyphen(-) on April 18, 2023, 09:17:14 AM

Manchester City has a good chance of making the semi-finals due to the goals they scored in the first leg of their match against Bayern Munich at Etihad Stadium, so they will not be under too much pressure when they travel to Munich for the second leg.

Now let's be realistic. In my opinion the best team this year is Man City and this is undeniable. Even though there is a term football is not mathematics but I believe this year is theirs. Especially in leg 2. It is rather impossible for Bayern Munich to score 4 more goals against Man City to advance to the semifinals unless Man City experiences non-technical matters.

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Frank Lampard might be a good player for Chelsea in the past, but I do not think he is ready to lead Chelsea as a manager yet. Chelsea has kept on losing games recently despite Frank Lampard putting in his best effort to try and improve the team result, I guess Real Madrid might be too strong for Chelsea to overcome and we might see Chelsea losing another game today.

Each time I make predictions I like acknowledging the unpredictability of the game of football because it is filled with surprises. Frank Lampard was sacked by Everton became of his underperformance, hence I don't expect him to perform a miracle in a more complicated club like Chelsea. Since his appointment, nothing has changed and today might not be an exception. The current Real Madrid team has the prospect of winning any team in the champions league and triumphing over a struggling team like Chelsea will not be a big deal. If Chelsea allows Real to score first in that game, then they might not recover. What the Blues need now is determination, teamwork, and ruthless diligence.

I agree, I mean if you are not good enough for Everton then I am sorry but you are not good enough for Chelsea neither, that much should have been obvious for everyone. However, I think Chelsea realized that this season will not be good anyway and they will focus on the next season, which means he is just the interim manager at the moment and they will look for someone else.

I imagined Nagelsmann as well just like everyone else, but since they spent so much money on the players, I guess they have a bigger deal in their mind as well. If they could get someone with a huge name and put him in charge, that's going to be something amazing without a doubt, we are going to end up seeing something that will make so much difference for them, with a proper manager they can be so much better.

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Quote from: boltz on April 18, 2023, 10:05:48 AM

What if Chelsea will manage to qualify tonight ? How many of us can predict a Chelsea victory ? Personally , I do see some chances for Chelsea just because they do have a great team that have the necessary potential to beat all the teams if I can say that but the rest is really up to them because Lampard didn't have much time to prepare this game but I'm sure he had a lot of time to motivate them and explain to them what UCL really means for Chelsea club.

Real ...what can we say about them ? They are hungry for another UCL trophy and they will fight for it without any doubts.

That's true, but we also can't rule out some of the shortcomings that occur in the depths of Chelsea. Even with a fairly ideal squad, when Lampard's quality was insufficient, in the end the players couldn't go any further. The success of a club is not built in a short time and that is true for Lampard. Leading at Chelsea for about 1 week and according to calculations the process of building the ideal squad by developing the potential of its players is not enough for now. We see that Chelsea is 2 points behind and their task in Leg 2 is to automatically target those 3 points even though Madrid doesn't score. Therefore the possibility of Chelsea winning is very minimal.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on April 18, 2023, 09:55:28 AM

Surely many will favor Real Madrid in this match. Because everyone also realizes that Chelsea is really getting worse at the moment. Even Lampard has not been able to get good enough results for Chelsea after he became coach at Chelsea until the end of the season. But I don't think Chelsea will let this game go easy for Real Madrid. Chelsea, as the host, also did not want to disappoint their supporters again. so Chelsea's motivation in this match should really be very high.

I also favored Real Madrid to qualify for the semifinals, but in the second leg at Stamford Bridge I was more certain that it would be a draw.
I expect high spirits will occur to convince the Stamford Bridge public that Chelsea always try to give their best.
Chelsea is not in the best shape realized by Carlo Ancelotti, but Ancelotti will also aim for goals in London from the early minutes to avoid Chelsea scoring 2 goals.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on April 18, 2023, 09:17:09 AM

Quote from: tulusikhlas on April 18, 2023, 08:35:04 AM

Someone can be successful as a player, but that does not guarantee that he will also be successful as a coach. Frank Lampard has no doubt that he was a reliable player in the past, but to become a coach, in my opinion, now is not the time. He must first learn a lot to be able to repeat the same success when he became a player on the field. He still needs a process to achieve that.

Frank Lampard was successful as a player but that doesn't mean he can be successful as a coach, bringing him back to manage the club was a very bad idea, Chelsea are having a very bad season, they are in 11th position in the English Premier League and they are on there are way out of the champions league, because I do see any possibility of Chelsea winning Real Madrid in the return leg, even if Real Madrid are having a bad season in the Spanish Laliga, they are very much active in the champions league and I think their is 25% possibility of Real Madrid winning the champions League this season.

You are entirely right, just because someone was a successful player it doesn't mean he is also a successful coach however there are many coaches who were successful players before and Zidane is one good example of it. But Lampard is not really a successful coach and he didn't reach any achievements yet.
Regardless of that, I think no matter if Lampard is coaching Chslea or another person because Chslea is not in a situation to bear Real Madrid.

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What if Chelsea will manage to qualify tonight ? How many of us can predict a Chelsea victory ? Personally , I do see some chances for Chelsea just because they do have a great team that have the necessary potential to beat all the teams if I can say that but the rest is really up to them because Lampard didn't have much time to prepare this game but I'm sure he had a lot of time to motivate them and explain to them what UCL really means for Chelsea club.

Real ...what can we say about them ? They are hungry for another UCL trophy and they will fight for it without any doubts.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on April 18, 2023, 08:29:22 AM

Correct. Even though Frank Lampard is a star player who has even become a legend at the Chelsea club, this cannot make Lampard reliable as a good coach. because not all top players can have the talent to be a coach. to be a successful coach must really be a person who is good at strategizing. So it's no wonder that many ordinary players are able to become reliable coaches. and many star players simply do not find great careers as coaches.

for the Chelsea vs Real Madrid match, I have no doubts about making Real Madrid the favorite in this match. because after all Chelsea's current inconsistency is already difficult we can hope to improve in the near future. maybe Chelsea will find their game next season. for this season I doubt they will improve again.

Surely many will favor Real Madrid in this match. Because everyone also realizes that Chelsea is really getting worse at the moment. Even Lampard has not been able to get good enough results for Chelsea after he became coach at Chelsea until the end of the season. But I don't think Chelsea will let this game go easy for Real Madrid. Chelsea, as the host, also did not want to disappoint their supporters again. so Chelsea's motivation in this match should really be very high.

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Man city where able to have one foot in the first round/leg in the champions league game between them and beryarn, will they still win in Germany or are bayern Munich going to make them sweat as the attempt to fight back? It's indeed going to be a tough game.

Manchester City has a good chance of making the semi-finals due to the goals they scored in the first leg of their match against Bayern Munich at Etihad Stadium, so they will not be under too much pressure when they travel to Munich for the second leg.

3 goals is a difficult thing for Bayern Munich to chase, even though they are playing at home. Manchester City are one of the favorites who have a good game overall, they will not let Bayern Munich take their advantage right now. I don't think Manchester City will also defend in this game, in fact I think they will try to score goals. Pep Guardiola will field a full squad in my opinion.

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Quote from: Barcode_ on April 18, 2023, 03:28:55 AM

Frank Lampard might be a good player for Chelsea in the past, but I do not think he is ready to lead Chelsea as a manager yet. Chelsea have kept on losing games recently despite Frank Lampard putting in his best effort to try and improve the team result, I guess Real Madrid might be too strong for Chelsea to overcome and we might see Chelsea losing another game today.

Frank Lampard is one of the best midfielders in Chelsea FC history, he has made good memories while playing for the club, but that doesn't make him a good coach, even though we all know he has good intentions for the club, it is as if team management is quite different from playing football itself because he also manages Everton FC and gets sacked due to poor performance, I am very sure that Chelsea management will let him go after the end of the season because the management has spent a lot of money to bring some good players.

Quote from: Prestongold on April 18, 2023, 04:37:29 AM

Man city where able to have one foot in the first round/leg in the champions league game between them and beryarn, will they still win in Germany or are bayern Munich going to make them sweat as the attempt to fight back? It's indeed going to be a tough game.

Manchester City has a good chance of making the semi-finals due to the goals they scored in the first leg of their match against Bayern Munich at Etihad Stadium, so they will not be under too much pressure when they travel to Munich for the second leg.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on April 18, 2023, 08:35:04 AM

Someone can be successful as a player, but that does not guarantee that he will also be successful as a coach. Frank Lampard has no doubt that he was a reliable player in the past, but to become a coach, in my opinion, now is not the time. He must first learn a lot to be able to repeat the same success when he became a player on the field. He still needs a process to achieve that.

Frank Lampard was successful as a player but that doesn't mean he can be successful as a coach, bringing him back to manage the club was a very bad idea, Chelsea are having a very bad season, they are in 11th position in the English Premier League and they are on there are way out of the champions league, because I do see any possibility of Chelsea winning Real Madrid in the return leg, even if Real Madrid are having a bad season in the Spanish Laliga, they are very much active in the champions league and I think their is 25% possibility of Real Madrid winning the champions League this season.

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I expect Real to do what’s required tonight to advance to the semi final. The other tie is where it gets interesting though, Milan lead 1-0 on aggregate but Napoli at home are something else. I have a real feeling that they will turn the tie on its head and get to the semi final. Victor Osimhen will have a big say I think, he’s ready to explode on the biggest stage as an elite, world class striker.

Real Madrid are having good advantage over Chelsea at the moment. Their qualifying for the semi-finals is already very visible. The concern now should be if Chelsea can avoid conceding more goals at home today. It is really sad the blues had to end the season trophyless. Milan on the other hand have been lucky in their last two meetings with Napoli both in the Champions League and Domestic League. I don't know if Victor Oshimen is back to the team to improve Napoli's attack. If he is still absent Milan might have advantage over Napoli

2nd leg approaches, many are wondering if Chelsea can turn their poor form around. They will need to be in top form and even need a miracle to get a win. I doubt they won't be able to get a shot on target in today's match. Nevertheless, Real Madrid looks set to come out victorious. While Napoli has the potential to advance, the question remains whether they can do it without Victor Osimhen. I doubt progress may have been further hampered by the absence of their form striker, Victor Osimhen. As for AC Milan, they are hoping to find some home comforts and advance to the next stage.

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Frank Lampard might be a good player for Chelsea in the past, but I do not think he is ready to lead Chelsea as a manager yet. Chelsea have kept on losing games recently despite Frank Lampard putting in his best effort to try and improve the team result, I guess Real Madrid might be too strong for Chelsea to overcome and we might see Chelsea losing another game today.

Since frank lampard came to Chelsea, their haven't been any changes in the clubs performance, their performance is even getting worst to me, their performance was too poor in their last premier league Match against Brighton. I don't think the problem is from coach alone, I think the players are also to be blamed, they are not organized. Chelsea will be playing against Real Madrid today, I believe it will be a easy win for Real Madrid, am expecting real Madrid to score like two goals in today's match.

I just think the damage at Chelsea is bad enough to need a manager who has the capacity to change the way they are at the moment and that will also be difficult to happen in the near future, we saw what happened to Man United a while ago even though it wasn't as bad as Chelsea but they replaced manager several times until Ten Hag finally arrived and after a few matches showed positive things, but unfortunately, they made several blunders in choosing a manager, more focus on buying players maybe because they thought that was what they needed but these players couldn't work together well so that give good contributions on Chelsea appereance.

This season in the champions league they have always been weak, several times it was predicted that they would not qualify but in fact they could reach the quarterfinals, although this time it was completely different because the opponent Real Madrid would not be the team that failed but there is still a chance for a surprise to happen, it's just that for Chelsea it takes hard work and miracles

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Quote from: Barcode_ on April 18, 2023, 03:28:55 AM

Frank Lampard might be a good player for Chelsea in the past, but I do not think he is ready to lead Chelsea as a manager yet. Chelsea have kept on losing games recently despite Frank Lampard putting in his best effort to try and improve the team result, I guess Real Madrid might be too strong for Chelsea to overcome and we might see Chelsea losing another game today.

Yes, Chelsea will definitely lose today's match against Real Madrid because the Chelsea are not in the right shape to compete with Real Madrid, losing by a score of 3-0 to Real Madrid is no laughing matter, and Real Madrid is a very strong team that consistently performs well in the Champions League. Chelsea might believe they can defeat Real today because they are at home, but that won't happen because Real Madrid always performs well both at home and away.
Frank Lampard may not be viewed favorably by Chelsea, but I am confident that the team's performance on the field is also at fault. The Chelsea team should simply receive proper training for the upcoming season's champions league; otherwise, I do not believe that Chelsea will be able to defeat Real Madrid.

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Frank Lampard might be a good player for Chelsea in the past, but I do not think he is ready to lead Chelsea as a manager yet. Chelsea have kept on losing games recently despite Frank Lampard putting in his best effort to try and improve the team result, I guess Real Madrid might be too strong for Chelsea to overcome and we might see Chelsea losing another game today.

Chelsea definitely stands zero chance against Real Madrid tonight, they lost the first leg game 2-0, i expect them to lose tonight as well, even though they are playing at home. Lampard was pretty terrible as Everton manager, and he has carried that horrendous form into Chelsea as their caretaker manager, losing all games since he's been in charge; i feel sorry for Frankie, this is a pretty bad time for anybody to be manager of Chelsea. The team is so disorganized that during the routine CL press conference yesterday, Kepa and Lampard confirmed that the owner of the club Todd Boehly speaks to the players almost after every game to try and motivate them, that's terrible imo, i can't imagine it happening in other clubs, clearly Todd knows nothing about football.

Only a miracle can make Chelsea turn around 0-2 on aggregate from Real Madrid who are the defending champions in the UCL, but if you look at Chelsea form of play during Lampard tenure as interim coach, miracles are unlikely to come to Chelsea side. Since Potter was sacked from his position as Chelsea head coach, Lampard has led Chelsea in three matches and the result is always losing.

The second leg which will be played at Chelsea Stamford bridge headquarters will be decisive for Chelsea and also for Lampard quality as a coach, Real Madrid are again the favorites to win this match because Chelsea performance is still far below standard. If Chelsea lose again to Real Madrid, Lampard has made Chelsea lose four times in a row since he was appointed as interim manager. Even worse, after being eliminated in the UCL, Chelsea will miss European competition next season because they failed to finish in the European zone in the EPL.

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Quote from: Barcode_ on April 18, 2023, 03:28:55 AM

Frank Lampard might be a good player for Chelsea in the past, but I do not think he is ready to lead Chelsea as a manager yet. Chelsea have kept on losing games recently despite Frank Lampard putting in his best effort to try and improve the team result, I guess Real Madrid might be too strong for Chelsea to overcome and we might see Chelsea losing another game today.

Since frank lampard came to Chelsea, their haven't been any changes in the clubs performance, their performance is even getting worst to me, their performance was too poor in their last premier league Match against Brighton. I don't think the problem is from coach alone, I think the players are also to be blamed, they are not organized. Chelsea will be playing against Real Madrid today, I believe it will be a easy win for Real Madrid, am expecting real Madrid to score like two goals in today's match.

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Quote from: Barcode_ on April 18, 2023, 03:28:55 AM

Frank Lampard might be a good player for Chelsea in the past, but I do not think he is ready to lead Chelsea as a manager yet. Chelsea have kept on losing games recently despite Frank Lampard putting in his best effort to try and improve the team result, I guess Real Madrid might be too strong for Chelsea to overcome and we might see Chelsea losing another game today.

Chelsea definitely stands zero chance against Real Madrid tonight, they lost the first leg game 2-0, i expect them to lose tonight as well, even though they are playing at home. Lampard was pretty terrible as Everton manager, and he has carried that horrendous form into Chelsea as their caretaker manager, losing all games since he's been in charge; i feel sorry for Frankie, this is a pretty bad time for anybody to be manager of Chelsea. The team is so disorganized that during the routine CL press conference yesterday, Kepa and Lampard confirmed that the owner of the club Todd Boehly speaks to the players almost after every game to try and motivate them, that's terrible imo, i can't imagine it happening in other clubs, clearly Todd knows nothing about football.

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