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Quote from: dezoel on June 08, 2023, 09:04:39 PM

Being dependent on Haaland is not that bad for City, they have him so them trying to get him to score is not really that bad of a thing, it does help them a lot. They are a much better team this season compared to last because they made some amazing changes on the roster, and adding Haaland was one of those amazing ones, the biggest one. He scored so many goals but after a while every team realized that they relied on him so much that they started to defend him tightly, mark him all game long with their defenders, but this time around it made other players better.

Let's remember that this is the same team that won the league so many times now and was at finals a one season ago, and semi finalist last season and finalist again this year. So just marking Haaland will not be enough, letting him be won't be good neither.

At the beginning of Haaland's arrival at Man City, we saw how the goal-scoring machine continued to destroy the opponent's questions. And opponents began to perceive Haaland as the only threat. But now it has been proven that this is not true. because it turns out that Man City doesn't just depend on Haaland. Other players have proven that they are no less strong than Haaland. De Bruyne, B.Silva and Gündoğan were even more free to score goals when the opponents were busy guarding Haaland. And all the Man City players are basically excellent at their job.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on June 08, 2023, 04:38:58 PM

After watching how Real Madrid were humiliated by Manchester City in the semi finals second leg, most football lovers have been quick to write off Inter Milan but this is football and anything is possible, Manchester City have more winning probability against Inter Milan but I strongly believe that Inter Milan will not sit back like Real Madrid and watch Manchester City dominate the game throughout.

It seemed to me if real madrid was not performing so well for the second leg. It's a quite different compared with the first leg but what you said above was actually true. People are generalizing if intermilan was even weak compared with madrid but people forgot that if anything can happen in the football.
Im neutral right now. to be honest if city has a bigger chance to win but intermilan is also a very strong team that is possible to beat city in the final too. Intermilan and city have chances to win against each other.
I can admit that if city was the strongest one in the world for this season but it doesn't mean if city was unbeaten, right? That's why intermilan is always having a chance to beat manchester city.

Let's see what lineup that will be using by both of clubs. Intermilan has a very fast counter attack. This must also become the reason why intermilan is also potentially to win the game against manchester city.
Simeone and pep are trying so hard to identify the weakness from its opponent.

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Being dependent on Haaland is not that bad for City, they have him so them trying to get him to score is not really that bad of a thing, it does help them a lot. They are a much better team this season compared to last because they made some amazing changes on the roster, and adding Haaland was one of those amazing ones, the biggest one. He scored so many goals but after a while every team realized that they relied on him so much that they started to defend him tightly, mark him all game long with their defenders, but this time around it made other players better.

Let's remember that this is the same team that won the league so many times now and was at finals a one season ago, and semi finalist last season and finalist again this year. So just marking Haaland will not be enough, letting him be won't be good neither.

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Maybe a bit strange to 100% support Manchester City without considering Inter's chances.
Everyone now knows that Manchester City is the strongest team in Europe compared to Inter, but I think Inter can provide something that should not be underestimated by their opponents. Manchester City have a habit of controlling play, but sometimes they find it difficult to find space if the opposing team has a good defence.

I remember how Brighton managed to force Manchester City to a 1-1 draw in the last few Premier League matches, so Inter must be able to find a solution on how best to stop Manchester City. But of course, I doubt Inter can stop Manchester City because they have been doing very well this season. All the players that Manchester City have are dangerous, so that is the biggest obstacle for Inter.

After watching how Real Madrid were humiliated by Manchester City in the semi finals second leg, most football lovers have been quick to write off Inter Milan but this is football and anything is possible, Manchester City have more winning probability against Inter Milan but I strongly believe that Inter Milan will not sit back like Real Madrid and watch Manchester City dominate the game throughout.

I think you clearly understand how football works and it is visible even to the blind that Manchester City is currently in good shape, form and ready to disgrace any opponent they play against after trashing Real Madrid in the semi finals to book themselves to the final which they will play against Inter Milan. Inter Milan is a very good team no doubt and it is possible thst they will contend with Manchester City but the bookmarkers and football pundit has seen City as the favourite and with their decent performance I think they will surely get a win regardless of the performance of Inter Milan. Inter Milan will be hopeful to get a goal through canter attack but City is a team that is complete this season and haviing more quality players than inter Milan is already an added advantage to them.

That's right, i don't really think bookmakers are exaggerating to put such odds for this match but football still full of surprises, inter Milan defence seems strong this season and if they manage to surprise man city with a goal ai believe the match can take another direction

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Maybe a bit strange to 100% support Manchester City without considering Inter's chances.
Everyone now knows that Manchester City is the strongest team in Europe compared to Inter, but I think Inter can provide something that should not be underestimated by their opponents. Manchester City have a habit of controlling play, but sometimes they find it difficult to find space if the opposing team has a good defence.

I remember how Brighton managed to force Manchester City to a 1-1 draw in the last few Premier League matches, so Inter must be able to find a solution on how best to stop Manchester City. But of course, I doubt Inter can stop Manchester City because they have been doing very well this season. All the players that Manchester City have are dangerous, so that is the biggest obstacle for Inter.

After watching how Real Madrid were humiliated by Manchester City in the semi finals second leg, most football lovers have been quick to write off Inter Milan but this is football and anything is possible, Manchester City have more winning probability against Inter Milan but I strongly believe that Inter Milan will not sit back like Real Madrid and watch Manchester City dominate the game throughout.

I think you clearly understand how football works and it is visible even to the blind that Manchester City is currently in good shape, form and ready to disgrace any opponent they play against after trashing Real Madrid in the semi finals to book themselves to the final which they will play against Inter Milan. Inter Milan is a very good team no doubt and it is possible thst they will contend with Manchester City but the bookmarkers and football pundit has seen City as the favourite and with their decent performance I think they will surely get a win regardless of the performance of Inter Milan. Inter Milan will be hopeful to get a goal through canter attack but City is a team that is complete this season and haviing more quality players than inter Milan is already an added advantage to them.

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Quote from: Mr.right85 on June 08, 2023, 05:57:51 PM

I had similar thought when Manchester City battled Manchester United in the FA cup finals but, with just a minute on the clock, Manchester City scored and it almost felt instant that, the game was won in favour of Manchester. Yeah Manchester United later got back in the game but in the end, Manchester City still won.

You can expect the next match to be have same result as the final of FA cup but intermilan was actually different compared with manchester united in this case. All of strikers of intermilan looked like underrated at this moment.
Im seeing people are now always focusing into the city's strikers while they forgot that if lautaro, lukaku have also ever on his best performance. It's now the time for intermilan's attacking lines to prove it to the all of people.
The match will come very soon and i can expect even much more harder game compared with the final of FA cup.

Quote from: Mr.right85 on June 08, 2023, 05:57:51 PM

This would pretty much be the case with Inter Milan when they face Manchester City in the champions league finals. Its going to be a Manchester City dominant game, where they would have go lead the scoreline with Inter chasing right behind. It would be Peps best chance and I don't see him not taking it.

Let's see how the match will be going on but it seems like for me if there will be no team that will be dominating the match. I think that intermilan and city will have equal performance in the final.
It's caused by intermilan is not willing to miss opportunity to win the UCL too. I expect milan will be trying so hard to make it happen.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on June 08, 2023, 04:38:58 PM

After watching how Real Madrid were humiliated by Manchester City in the semi finals second leg, most football lovers have been quick to write off Inter Milan but this is football and anything is possible, Manchester City have more winning probability against Inter Milan but I strongly believe that Inter Milan will not sit back like Real Madrid and watch Manchester City dominate the game throughout.

Of course Inter milan will not sit out and they will be able to provide strong competition in the final. Indeed, some of them immediately dropped Inter Milan because Manchester City was so strong this season. From this I make a comparison that in the final match anything can happen even every second or minute will be quite valuable for both teams. If the final match reaches the penalty shoot-out round, I think all predictions will be off the mark and only luck will be the final point as to who will win the UCL this season.

Inter milan has won the ucl trophy 3 times while manchester city has never, now in this context I think inter milan has experience and a strong mentality but it all depends on their game later.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on June 08, 2023, 05:58:11 PM

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Inter Milan vs Manchester City will be a hard nut to crack for Manchester City and just as you guys have widely speculated it may be very hard for Manchester City to penetrate Inter Milan's midfield since the club have a very strong defensive line that will properly render most Manchester city attempt to be unless and fruitless and that will make the game very hard for man city and it going to take high luck to give Manchester City the final winning in the match.

Inter will probably rely on their strong midfield and defensive line. but Man City also has a fearsome forward line. even the Man City midfield is also quite creative in planning attacks. even when Haaland is unable to move due to the strong defense of the opponent, Man City has other options to score. Haaland is a monster for every opponent's defense. and Inter must consider ways not to let Haaland run free. because that would be a big mistake.

Manchester city indeed have some crazy midfielder perpetrators who can dislodge inter Milan's midfield into scoring possible goals and that is something I am certain of but how their going to achieve that is what is not clear to most football fans and the doubt in many others, I know this is going to be a tough game for both clubs and if inter Milan make any mistake of letting Manchester city make an early score then their faith in this match is gone since Manchester city is good at defending their 18 Line by total lock on their score first.

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Quote from: Wiwo on June 08, 2023, 05:38:52 PM

Inter Milan vs Manchester City will be a hard nut to crack for Manchester City and just as you guys have widely speculated it may be very hard for Manchester City to penetrate Inter Milan's midfield since the club have a very strong defensive line that will properly render most Manchester city attempt to be unless and fruitless and that will make the game very hard for man city and it going to take high luck to give Manchester City the final winning in the match.

Inter will probably rely on their strong midfield and defensive line. but Man City also has a fearsome forward line. even the Man City midfield is also quite creative in planning attacks. even when Haaland is unable to move due to the strong defense of the opponent, Man City has other options to score. Haaland is a monster for every opponent's defense. and Inter must consider ways not to let Haaland run free. because that would be a big mistake.

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Quote from: Wiwo on June 08, 2023, 05:38:52 PM

Inter Milan vs Manchester City will be a hard nut to crack for Manchester City and just as you guys have widely speculated it may be very hard for Manchester City to penetrate Inter Milan's midfield since the club have a very strong defensive line that will properly render most Manchester city attempt to be unless and fruitless and that will make the game very hard for man city and it going to take high luck to give Manchester City the final winning in the match.

I had similar thought when Manchester City battled Manchester United in the FA cup finals but, with just a minute on the clock, Manchester City scored and it almost felt instant that, the game was won in favour of Manchester. Yeah Manchester United later got back in the game but in the end, Manchester City still won.

This would pretty much be the case with Inter Milan when they face Manchester City in the champions league finals. Its going to be a Manchester City dominant game, where they would have go lead the scoreline with Inter chasing right behind. It would be Peps best chance and I don't see him not taking it.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on June 08, 2023, 02:00:48 PM

Maybe a bit strange to 100% support Manchester City without considering Inter's chances.
Everyone now knows that Manchester City is the strongest team in Europe compared to Inter, but I think Inter can provide something that should not be underestimated by their opponents. Manchester City have a habit of controlling play, but sometimes they find it difficult to find space if the opposing team has a good defence.

Manchester City's striker is another valuable player in breaking down strong opponents' defenses. When they are unable to get through the defense, they play area ball, where Haaland can easily use his head and net into the goal post. It will be difficult for him to score in this manner if they can also find a tall or smart defender to man mark him.

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I remember how Brighton managed to force Manchester City to a 1-1 draw in the last few Premier League matches, so Inter must be able to find a solution on how best to stop Manchester City. But of course, I doubt Inter can stop Manchester City because they have been doing very well this season. All the players that Manchester City have are dangerous, so that is the biggest obstacle for Inter.

To have a chance in the final, they must face Manchester City and overcome their fear. Even if Manchester City is the best and most talented team this season, every club has a weak point. If they can recognize and take advantage of that weakness, they will be able to limit Manchester City to a draw or victory in the end.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on June 08, 2023, 04:38:58 PM

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Maybe a bit strange to 100% support Manchester City without considering Inter's chances.
Everyone now knows that Manchester City is the strongest team in Europe compared to Inter, but I think Inter can provide something that should not be underestimated by their opponents. Manchester City have a habit of controlling play, but sometimes they find it difficult to find space if the opposing team has a good defence.

I remember how Brighton managed to force Manchester City to a 1-1 draw in the last few Premier League matches, so Inter must be able to find a solution on how best to stop Manchester City. But of course, I doubt Inter can stop Manchester City because they have been doing very well this season. All the players that Manchester City have are dangerous, so that is the biggest obstacle for Inter.

After watching how Real Madrid were humiliated by Manchester City in the semi finals second leg, most football lovers have been quick to write off Inter Milan but this is football and anything is possible, Manchester City have more winning probability against Inter Milan but I strongly believe that Inter Milan will not sit back like Real Madrid and watch Manchester City dominate the game throughout.

Inter Milan vs Manchester City will be a hard nut to crack for Manchester City and just as you guys have widely speculated it may be very hard for Manchester City to penetrate Inter Milan's midfield since the club have a very strong defensive line that will properly render most Manchester city attempt to be unless and fruitless and that will make the game very hard for man city and it going to take high luck to give Manchester City the final winning in the match.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on June 08, 2023, 04:38:58 PM

Quote from: indah rezqi on June 08, 2023, 02:00:48 PM

Maybe a bit strange to 100% support Manchester City without considering Inter's chances.
Everyone now knows that Manchester City is the strongest team in Europe compared to Inter, but I think Inter can provide something that should not be underestimated by their opponents. Manchester City have a habit of controlling play, but sometimes they find it difficult to find space if the opposing team has a good defence.

I remember how Brighton managed to force Manchester City to a 1-1 draw in the last few Premier League matches, so Inter must be able to find a solution on how best to stop Manchester City. But of course, I doubt Inter can stop Manchester City because they have been doing very well this season. All the players that Manchester City have are dangerous, so that is the biggest obstacle for Inter.

After watching how Real Madrid were humiliated by Manchester City in the semi finals second leg, most football lovers have been quick to write off Inter Milan but this is football and anything is possible, Manchester City have more winning probability against Inter Milan but I strongly believe that Inter Milan will not sit back like Real Madrid and watch Manchester City dominate the game throughout.

You are right,I also couldn't believe that City will be able to win Madrid. All the same, Manchester city will do the same thing that they did to Madrid to Inter but maybe not as much goals that was scored against Madrid will be scored in the match versus Inter. Inter have a good defense and it wouldn't be too easy for City to score much goals. Inter on the other hand wouldn't accept defeat easily and they will struggle with city and if they are lucky,the match will end up in penalty shoot out. This is only when I think that Inter can have an opportunity to win the game because penalty shoot out is 50-50.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on June 08, 2023, 04:38:58 PM

After watching how Real Madrid were humiliated by Manchester City in the semi finals second leg, most football lovers have been quick to write off Inter Milan but this is football and anything is possible, Manchester City have more winning probability against Inter Milan but I strongly believe that Inter Milan will not sit back like Real Madrid and watch Manchester City dominate the game throughout.

Not even Inter Milan, but any team that gets to this stage will not sit back and watch the other team just play them and win the trophy without them also trying and having that mindset of winning the game too. At least if not for anything, but for an entertaining performance for the viewers Inter Milan should put that effort too and not allow the wailers truthful of their words before the match.

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 08, 2023, 04:42:16 PM

Inter Milan is also a strong team otherwise they couldn't be in the final match and playing against the Champions League for the title. They are maybe not stable but they are strong enough for this match.

Manchester City got more stability than them and for them to be enough competent for this match they need that stability. They’ve tried their best from day 1 to this point, they shouldn’t let the effort and hard work just go because of the words of the public that they’ve no chance against Manchester City. Let them try their best, if they’re lucky, things might turn around for their favour.

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Finals are usually neutral and this time the Manchester City vs Inter Milan match will be held at the Ataturk Olympic Stadium, not at Manchester City's home ground. That's how I see it in the schedule that has been laid out for them although I also think that it won't be a problem at all for Manchester City and also Inter Milan as both will be looking to win their last game in the Champions League this season.

Manchester City is a talented club and they don’t care if they are playing at home ground or Away, I don’t always see any difference in Manchester city performance either they are playing at home or away, but it won’t be easy for Manchester City against inter Milan, because inter Milan is also a dangerous club, it’s won’t be a easy match for Manchester city just like the way people have been saying that Manchester city is going to win. Actually pep Guardiola will want to win three leagues for Manchester city this season and he has successfully won two, remaining one so am sure he will do everything possible to win the last one.

It goes a bit too far if you say they don't care where they play. I think their home performance has been consistently a bit better than their away performances although we are talking about nuances when a team wins almost all the time anyway. But in this case the game is on neutral grounds anyway. It will be an interesting information to get when we know how many Inter fans there are and how many Manchester City fans will take on the burden and support their team. The Inter fans have been known to be crazy enough to go anywhere in the world in large numbers and do everything they can to get as many tickets as they can. I would not be surprised if they do represent a majority in the stadium at the Champions League final.

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Both Manchester City and Inter are certainly very used to the atmosphere of matches outside of home matches and like the final match of a competition, it requires the two teams to meet in very far places so that the support from the supporters is not too overwhelming so the fans must be willing to spend money. a lot to be able to buy plane tickets and matches. Apart from all that, of course the two teams will give a very exciting match for the fans who have attended and of course we as viewers from the television screen will also be looking forward to a great match.

In any case, they are two great teams, used to this type of event
clearly an entire season is being played for them
so they will be careful not to do damage and play their best
I honestly think Manchester will win

Inter Milan is also a strong team otherwise they couldn't be in the final match and playing against the Champions League for the title. They are maybe not stable but they are strong enough for this match.

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From my observation of the recent finals played by the Italian clubs this season,this shows that Italy might just be lucky to be in three European league finals but might not be able to win any trophy home,because this last final might also be in the favor of the English club.

Manchester city is a very strong club this season and wouldn't give Inter the chance to defeat them in the final and rob them off from making history. This is what Pep will put into consideration,since he will also make a remarkable memory for himself and the club. This means that what is at stake is much greater than the pressure City will face on the field with Inter on that day.

On the other hand, Inter will see this match as a match which will give good reputation to Italy after they have lost out in two consecutive finals this season. Inter have their own pattern of football and strategy which I think might be good enough to stop City from winning them.

Inter does have the strength and maybe a strategy to offset the game from Man City. but we have to see how Man City plays this season. they are very aggressive up front. they have good ball control. it was not easy for Inter to come up with a strategy to survive the dominance of Man City.
they could maybe lock up Haaland with 1 or 2 players. but Man City will have other players who come to the rescue when Haaland can't move freely. Inter must be careful with Man City's fast attacks.

I think Inter Milan is going to try disabling Haaland for this match because they are aware of his powers and if they don't put Haaland under pressure one opportunity can be enough for him to change the game.

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Can we get new poll only for final game? I'm interested to see how much of an underdog people think Inter is.

At the moment it is rather difficult to favor Inter milan and even Inter fans are a little hesitant to bet on Inter milan because in this match Manchester city has more advantages in the performance of strong players than Inter milan.
But I'm not saying Inter Milan will lose, but I hope the game ends in a draw which gives Inter a slightly bigger chance of winning if it goes into a penalty shootout.

Football betting isn't done with emotions rather it's more
of a reality-based gamble. Though on several occasions, we've seen people who placed bets for their team to win because of their loves for these their respective clubs and still end up as winners.
However, it'll be very rare to see anyone who'll bet on Inter Milan to beat Manchester City in the UEFA Champions League final game on Saturday not even a deliberate Roma fan would bet on his team

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Quote from: indah rezqi on June 08, 2023, 02:00:48 PM

Maybe a bit strange to 100% support Manchester City without considering Inter's chances.
Everyone now knows that Manchester City is the strongest team in Europe compared to Inter, but I think Inter can provide something that should not be underestimated by their opponents. Manchester City have a habit of controlling play, but sometimes they find it difficult to find space if the opposing team has a good defence.

I remember how Brighton managed to force Manchester City to a 1-1 draw in the last few Premier League matches, so Inter must be able to find a solution on how best to stop Manchester City. But of course, I doubt Inter can stop Manchester City because they have been doing very well this season. All the players that Manchester City have are dangerous, so that is the biggest obstacle for Inter.

After watching how Real Madrid were humiliated by Manchester City in the semi finals second leg, most football lovers have been quick to write off Inter Milan but this is football and anything is possible, Manchester City have more winning probability against Inter Milan but I strongly believe that Inter Milan will not sit back like Real Madrid and watch Manchester City dominate the game throughout.

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At the moment it is rather difficult to favor Inter milan and even Inter fans are a little hesitant to bet on Inter milan because in this match Manchester city has more advantages in the performance of strong players than Inter milan.
But I'm not saying Inter Milan will lose, but I hope the game ends in a draw which gives Inter a slightly bigger chance of winning if it goes into a penalty shootout.

Actually predicting the Final match will be quite difficult to say in advance because these two teams both have strong squads in their teams. Inter milan has Martinez and Lukaku and Manchester City has Haaland and Kevin De Bruyne, where they are one of the factors that have made a big contribution to their team this season. So from this it is very likely that from what is seen at this time Manchester City is slightly superior in their pattern of play in the Champions League. Well, betting on Manchester city or Inter Milan will all depend on our beliefs or in other cases there is nothing that can be said in the final, namely a weak team vs a strong team. Because these two teams in my opinion are the strongest teams at the moment.

Regardless of which team we support, I also hope that this season belongs to Manchester City because they have everything to be champions this season. If Manchester City fails, it will most likely be quite difficult for them to accept this defeat.

Now, with all the speculation that is currently only a few days away it will be answered because indeed the final will be held in a few days.
Both teams seem ready and with a long break now it looks like they are ready at full strength ahead of the final because I didn't find any news about players having problems ahead of this final.
Things discussed remain the same and the odds also still make Manchester City the undisputed favorites but indeed Inter are also ready now.
In 2 days we will see whether Manchester City or Inter can really have a trophy as well as a Treble Winner for this season.

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No, I don't expect it to be a one-sided match like when Manchester City beat Real Madrid in the second leg of the semi-final.

I think that match was such a smash because MC were playing at home (not the main factor) and took an attacking stance from the start. In their first match it was the same, only it ended around the 30th minute when there was a pause due to an injury to a MC player. In the return match this wasn't the case, MC played on the same wave, they didn't stop

Playing at home is a big factor. It is a big advantage for any team. We can see the difference in the result between Man City playing away and playing at home when it was in the semi-final against Real Madrid. They got a draw in Real Madrid home and they won 4 goals when they played in their own stadium. However, in the final match, Man City and Inter Milan will play in Atatürk Olympic Stadium, no team play in their home. So, there is no longer that factor in the final round. Man City no longer can determine their winning by playing at their home in the final match.

Yes, but you have to watch how they played in the first leg of the semi-final. I would say Real Madrid were very good defensively. You could see from that game that Manchester City played beautifully, attacking and you can't say that not at home, in the final, they will play worse. Inter will also play away from home, so they are on equal footing in that respect.

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