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Quote from: Tumanggor on March 06, 2023, 06:15:44 AM

because of liverpool's success in winning 7-0 over man utd, I see the chance of liverpool's victory against madird going up to 32% but I myself am not sure of that percentage

in the local league, madrid's performance is declining and they are even being held to a draw by real betis but Madrid's winning mentality in the champions league cannot be lost, this is evident from madrid's success in crushing liverpool 5-2 in the first leg that has passed

We think Real Madrid's Club Mentality is far superior to Liverpool in the Champions League, although we realize that Real Madrid has lost a bit of performance in Laliga which so far has not been able to oust Barceona from the top of the standings, despite Liverpool's victory over Mancehster United in the Premier League yesterday I think will not reduce the mentality and performance of the Real Madrid Team itself, even though this is an equally important match for both of them, of course they will develop the best possible strategy for the meeting on March 16.

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in the local league, madrid's performance is declining and they are even being held to a draw by real betis but Madrid's winning mentality in the champions league cannot be lost, this is evident from madrid's success in crushing liverpool 5-2 in the first leg that has passed

Likewise with Real Madrid, even though they have drawn with Real Betis in their own domestic league, it does not mean that Real Madrid will be bad in the Champions League in this second leg. Besides, the second leg match for Real Madrid will take place at their own turf so it will be a little easier for Real Madrid, especially since Real Madrid had already won the first leg at home to Liverpool.

Real Madrid and it's players are champions league league perfectionists and they have over years and on many occasions proven that they are the best European Cub but nevertheless, the Liverpool Football Club of England are not new when it comes to great European come backs. They have in different occasions overturned games that everyone thought they were heading out and their match against Real Madrid by next week's Wednesday shouldn't be an exception and also considering how they tore Manchester United apart yesterday despite their current
poor form should also be another huge signal they can beat any team on their day.

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Quote from: Masplanc on March 06, 2023, 08:22:01 AM

I doubt if Liverpool can play Real Madrid they same way like Manchester United. Real Madrid might not be in the best position of performance , but Real Madrid will always be tough for Manchester United. From previous games it has shown that Real Madrid always have victory meeting with Liverpool.

Real madrid was not liverpool. I think that if you were not even watching the match correctly. I shall remind you that if liverpool was losing big aggregate against real madrid in anfield and how can you see if real madrid and MU are the same? Madrid is far better than MU. I think that you shall do your own research about that, How the hell if you didn't even know if madrid was playing in anfield before?

I thin that you didn't even know if the next match will be happening in madrid's home. that was giving so many advantage for madrid. You just need to search it.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on March 06, 2023, 06:15:44 AM

because of liverpool's success in winning 7-0 over man utd, I see the chance of liverpool's victory against madird going up to 32% but I myself am not sure of that percentage

in the local league, madrid's performance is declining and they are even being held to a draw by real betis but Madrid's winning mentality in the champions league cannot be lost, this is evident from madrid's success in crushing liverpool 5-2 in the first leg that has passed

Actually, we are used to seeing Real Madrid's performance seem to decline in La Liga. but when appearing in the Champions League match, Real Madri actually showed a very extraordinary game. as if they are only more focused on the Champions League. and something like this happened since the group stage. So that Real Madrid in the Champions League is much feared. but Liverpool in the premier league did make an extraordinary surprise. even the sports news media keep reporting on it. but we don't know if Liverpool will also show a good game in the champions league like in the Premier league. we don't know that. so that this match will probably be the match that all of us are most looking forward to. because we are now even more curious about the match between these two teams in the second leg later.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on March 06, 2023, 06:15:44 AM

because of liverpool's success in winning 7-0 over man utd, I see the chance of liverpool's victory against madird going up to 32% but I myself am not sure of that percentage

Matches in the premier league cannot be equated with matches that will occur in the Champions League, even if it is for Liverpool, because Liverpool, who were able to win in the premier league, took place at home. As for the Champions League match in the first leg, Liverpool have been beaten by Real Madrid and that cannot be equated with the results of matches in the Premier League for Liverpool.

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in the local league, madrid's performance is declining and they are even being held to a draw by real betis but Madrid's winning mentality in the champions league cannot be lost, this is evident from madrid's success in crushing liverpool 5-2 in the first leg that has passed

Likewise with Real Madrid, even though they have drawn with Real Betis in their own domestic league, it does not mean that Real Madrid will be bad in the Champions League in this second leg. Besides, the second leg match for Real Madrid will take place at their own turf so it will be a little easier for Real Madrid, especially since Real Madrid had already won the first leg at home to Liverpool.

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Liverpool able to score 7 goals against Manchester United, does Liverpool can able to score at least 4 goals to Real Madrid? it's a hard task for Liverpool because the match will happen on Real Madrid's home. I think Liverpool can able to beat Real Madrid, but I don't think they will qualify to the next round since the aggregate points is really big with 3 goals difference. Real Madrid's defenders are better than Manchester United, so I believe Liverpool will not score a lot goals.

because of liverpool's success in winning 7-0 over man utd, I see the chance of liverpool's victory against madird going up to 32% but I myself am not sure of that percentage

in the local league, madrid's performance is declining and they are even being held to a draw by real betis but Madrid's winning mentality in the champions league cannot be lost, this is evident from madrid's success in crushing liverpool 5-2 in the first leg that has passed

I doubt if Liverpool can play Real Madrid they same way like Manchester United. Real Madrid might not be in the best position of performance , but Real Madrid will always be tough for Manchester United. From previous games it has shown that Real Madrid always have victory meeting with Liverpool.

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Liverpool able to score 7 goals against Manchester United, does Liverpool can able to score at least 4 goals to Real Madrid? it's a hard task for Liverpool because the match will happen on Real Madrid's home. I think Liverpool can able to beat Real Madrid, but I don't think they will qualify to the next round since the aggregate points is really big with 3 goals difference. Real Madrid's defenders are better than Manchester United, so I believe Liverpool will not score a lot goals.

because of liverpool's success in winning 7-0 over man utd, I see the chance of liverpool's victory against madird going up to 32% but I myself am not sure of that percentage

in the local league, madrid's performance is declining and they are even being held to a draw by real betis but Madrid's winning mentality in the champions league cannot be lost, this is evident from madrid's success in crushing liverpool 5-2 in the first leg that has passed

The quality of the opponent, the confidence of the players when they play in the Premier League will not be the same as what they will face in the Champions League. Real Madrid is a big team, there is no doubt about their mentality even though they will be playing in front of Liverpool supporters

5-2 win in the first leg of the round 16 of the Champions League give Madrid the capital to dominate next week's second match.

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Liverpool able to score 7 goals against Manchester United, does Liverpool can able to score at least 4 goals to Real Madrid? it's a hard task for Liverpool because the match will happen on Real Madrid's home. I think Liverpool can able to beat Real Madrid, but I don't think they will qualify to the next round since the aggregate points is really big with 3 goals difference. Real Madrid's defenders are better than Manchester United, so I believe Liverpool will not score a lot goals.

Recent performance from these teams is so interesting that Liverpool has been showed good progress that after poor performance period Liverpool can able to bounce back and gets some important winning on premier league and besides that their records also looks amazing for me because Liverpool can able to scored 13 goals in all competitions and conceded 5 goals from Real Madrid

But the opposite conditions from Real Madrid that recently they had been showed inconsistency and for race title with Barcelona apparently Real Madrid have to give up because i think it's hard for Real Madrid to keep up and compete with Barcelona and probably for second leg there is a chance for Liverpool to win the match but win with 4 goals margin it's near to impossible for Liverpool

Liverpool has been playing exceptionally well as of late. Even against Manchester United, they scored seven times! If they play Real Madrid, though, they'll need to score at least four goals. Given that the match will be played in Real Madrid's own stadium, making a decision is difficult. Liverpool would have accomplished a great deal if they beat Real Madrid. Yet, with a 3-goal deficit in total points, it appears improbable that Liverpool will advance. I don't see Liverpool scoring many goals against Real Madrid since their defenders are superior to those of Manchester United. And RM has won Liverpool for many times. Lets gooo RMM

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Quote from: Despairo on March 06, 2023, 02:18:15 AM

Liverpool able to score 7 goals against Manchester United, does Liverpool can able to score at least 4 goals to Real Madrid? it's a hard task for Liverpool because the match will happen on Real Madrid's home. I think Liverpool can able to beat Real Madrid, but I don't think they will qualify to the next round since the aggregate points is really big with 3 goals difference. Real Madrid's defenders are better than Manchester United, so I believe Liverpool will not score a lot goals.

Liverpool are unstable and unpredictable this season, sometimes past the same Liverpool struggles to win smaller teams in different occasions. I believe Manchester United did not expect this from Liverpool. It was an interesting game, Liverpool haven't play such an interesting game like this season, I think they deserve one like this.

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Liverpool able to score 7 goals against Manchester United, does Liverpool can able to score at least 4 goals to Real Madrid? it's a hard task for Liverpool because the match will happen on Real Madrid's home. I think Liverpool can able to beat Real Madrid, but I don't think they will qualify to the next round since the aggregate points is really big with 3 goals difference. Real Madrid's defenders are better than Manchester United, so I believe Liverpool will not score a lot goals.

Liverpool have vented their defeat against Real madrid so that Manchester United were defeated and humiliated with 7 goals, obviously for Premiere League matches and the Champions League are very different, I think Liverpool will not qualify for the next round because of course it is very difficult for Liverpool to score more than 3 goals to real madrid's goal and it's so impossible.

it will be difficult for Liverpool to get a place in the UCL. although they could have played to their full potential and got a goal at home to Madrid, catching up to the current goal would be far enough. Madrid is not a weak team in UCL, they can always take advantage of opportunities to win. even in the second leg, they are playing at home and it will be very difficult for Liverpool to benefit from this game.

Yes, of course it will be difficult for Liverpool because Real Madrid only needs to hold a draw, that has prevented Liverpool from qualifying for the next round, but I don't think Real Madrid will underestimate their opponents and will not be satisfied with a draw, playing at home and in front of their fans. in the second leg later, of course real madrid will provide resistance at least to win in the match later.

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Quote from: Despairo on March 06, 2023, 02:18:15 AM

Liverpool able to score 7 goals against Manchester United, does Liverpool can able to score at least 4 goals to Real Madrid? it's a hard task for Liverpool because the match will happen on Real Madrid's home. I think Liverpool can able to beat Real Madrid, but I don't think they will qualify to the next round since the aggregate points is really big with 3 goals difference. Real Madrid's defenders are better than Manchester United, so I believe Liverpool will not score a lot goals.

because of liverpool's success in winning 7-0 over man utd, I see the chance of liverpool's victory against madird going up to 32% but I myself am not sure of that percentage

in the local league, madrid's performance is declining and they are even being held to a draw by real betis but Madrid's winning mentality in the champions league cannot be lost, this is evident from madrid's success in crushing liverpool 5-2 in the first leg that has passed

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well that's true. Even though Liverpool made a surprise in the Premier League by beating MU with an extraordinary score of 7-0. but that does not mean Liverpool will also play well in the Champions League. But if Liverpool really have found their best game then of course they still have a chance to beat Real Madrid even though it seems slim. because Liverpool should win by more goals. But Real Madrid, who will play as the host in the second leg, will of course also show their best game in front of their own supporters. So Real Madrid definitely don't want to lose this match and I also feel that it is most likely that Real Madrid will qualify for the next round. but we don't know if there will be any surprises in the second leg later.

Agree with what you say that if Liverpool really has found their best game it will be a big surprise that Real Madrid should be careful. Because Liverpool's victory at Anfield, which defeated Man United, will motivate them to rise from adversity. The reason is that Real Madrid is still not completely consistent and their match against Barcelona has made Liverpool ambitious to be able to improve their performance again. Facing an opponent who is in a burning condition like Liverpool is automatically a tough task for Ancelotti so that his troops are alert.

Liverpool played well against Manchester United no doubt. It was very difficult to score 7 goals against a big team like United. Even then I wouldn't say Liverpool has found their best form. I have no confidence in Liverpool's performance. Liverpool won 9-0 against Bournemouth. After that, they continued to perform well in 2/3 matches, but then they lost the truck again. A good performance against United does not guarantee that they will be able to maintain such dominance in the upcoming matches.

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Quote from: Despairo on March 06, 2023, 02:18:15 AM

Liverpool able to score 7 goals against Manchester United, does Liverpool can able to score at least 4 goals to Real Madrid? it's a hard task for Liverpool because the match will happen on Real Madrid's home. I think Liverpool can able to beat Real Madrid, but I don't think they will qualify to the next round since the aggregate points is really big with 3 goals difference. Real Madrid's defenders are better than Manchester United, so I believe Liverpool will not score a lot goals.

Liverpool have vented their defeat against Real madrid so that Manchester United were defeated and humiliated with 7 goals, obviously for Premiere League matches and the Champions League are very different, I think Liverpool will not qualify for the next round because of course it is very difficult for Liverpool to score more than 3 goals to real madrid's goal and it's so impossible.

There is no doubt that Liverpool is going to face Real Madrid with high spirits on Wednesday, but there is one thing to know. There is a clear difference between local league and champions league. The environment is different, the spirit is different and the expectations are different.
Although Champions league is full of wonders but I do not think that Liverpool stands a chance to perform wonders against Real Madrid.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on March 05, 2023, 05:14:36 PM

Liverpool put on an incredible show today against Manchester United. There was a victory with a 7-0 result at the end of the game. I wonder how positive impact this would make for their Champions League rematch.

But I guess that I'm being too optimistic. I think that there is no way Liverpool are coming back from a disadvantage of 5-2 against Real Madrid. In the end, Real Madrid are always the secretly biggest favourite title contender of the tournament. Bookmakers are assessing the situation by taking the squad qualities into account mostly. Real Madrid destroyed Liverpool in Anfield and I think that they will finish their work by getting even another win in Santiago Bernabeu.

This is very predictable and certain in relation to their match against Manchester United. Everything is just turning around. Real Madrid defeated Liverpool 5-2, Barcelona defeated Real Madrid 1-0, Manchester United defeated Barcelona 2-0, and now Liverpool defeated Manchester United 7-0. The games are quite unpredictable, and no team can be certain of victory until the final whistle blows. In this case, Liverpool will be confident of defeating Real Madrid in the second leg, and their display of excellent football against Manchester United may startle Real Madrid in that match. In any case, both teams will be hoping to win that day.

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There is something you guys don't understand about wining, wining has a motivational spirit behind it that brings out the confidence in a particular team to think that next game is gonna be a winning game and in some cases this works out that way. Therefore Liverpool 7-0 victory over Manchester united is a motivational one to the entire team and will likely send a warning or fearful signal to their opponent team Real Madrid as regards to their returning leg, that maybe things have changed in terms of Liverpool performance. Scoring 4 goals isn't something that cannot happen and Liverpool has done it before against the Barcelona team in a champions league like this.

I don’t agree with you, Real Madrid is not Manchester United, remember the recent match in the Champions League, when at the beginning of the match Liverpool won 2-0 but Real didn’t stop, they gathered and equalized by the end of the first half.

Motivation is good, but you should also consider the character of the team. Imagine at what level the character of Real Madrid, if they were able to at Anfield, losing in the 14th minute with a score of 2-0, in the end they won 2-5. Here, motivation alone is definitely not enough, because they did not accept defeat, but fought to the end.

Of course, Liverpool surprises me, they can lose 2-5 to Real Madrid, but then they win 7-0 MU, this is Klopp's magic, I can’t call it otherwise. Grin

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I don't know what kind of voodoo Klopp did, because he might be required to perfect a second against Real Madrid in their oncoming clash.
I think Real Madrid is more champions league focused compared to Liverpool, reasons being the execution of a team side strategy outside their own home league tournament. The statistics rate of success outside their own domestic la Liga and other home tournament is higher. They might be weak in their own league but would give their best shot at the champions league side, Liverpool who all eyes will be on to replicate their recent form against Manchester United.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on March 06, 2023, 01:15:51 AM

well that's true. Even though Liverpool made a surprise in the Premier League by beating MU with an extraordinary score of 7-0. but that does not mean Liverpool will also play well in the Champions League. But if Liverpool really have found their best game then of course they still have a chance to beat Real Madrid even though it seems slim. because Liverpool should win by more goals. But Real Madrid, who will play as the host in the second leg, will of course also show their best game in front of their own supporters. So Real Madrid definitely don't want to lose this match and I also feel that it is most likely that Real Madrid will qualify for the next round. but we don't know if there will be any surprises in the second leg later.

Agree with what you say that if Liverpool really has found their best game it will be a big surprise that Real Madrid should be careful. Because Liverpool's victory at Anfield, which defeated Man United, will motivate them to rise from adversity. The reason is that Real Madrid is still not completely consistent and their match against Barcelona has made Liverpool ambitious to be able to improve their performance again. Facing an opponent who is in a burning condition like Liverpool is automatically a tough task for Ancelotti so that his troops are alert.

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Quote from: Awaklara on March 06, 2023, 03:53:02 AM

it will be difficult for Liverpool to get a place in the UCL. although they could have played to their full potential and got a goal at home to Madrid, catching up to the current goal would be far enough. Madrid is not a weak team in UCL, they can always take advantage of opportunities to win. even in the second leg, they are playing at home and it will be very difficult for Liverpool to benefit from this game.

It's difficult for Liverpool because they lost big in a first leg and in a second leg, they have to play at Bernabeu. However, Real Madrid lately have very poor performance and a big win of Liverpool over Manchester United will make Real Madrid more fearful.

If they can control Liverpool in a first half, they will likely to prevent a shock at Bernabeu but if Liverpool have an early goal, their sentiment will be very positive and we see what happened with Manchester United. I know Real Madrid have stronger mentality than Manchester United but it does not mean they will be able to avoid a terrible thrash like Manchester United.

In fact Liverpool don't need thrash like that, they only need to win 2 goals to continue with extra halfs.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on March 06, 2023, 03:23:25 AM

There is something you guys don't understand about wining, wining has a motivational spirit behind it that brings out the confidence in a particular team to think that next game is gonna be a winning game and in some cases this works out that way. Therefore Liverpool 7-0 victory over Manchester united is a motivational one to the entire team and will likely send a warning or fearful signal to their opponent team Real Madrid as regards to their returning leg, that maybe things have changed in terms of Liverpool performance. Scoring 4 goals isn't something that cannot happen and Liverpool has done it before against the Barcelona team in a champions league like this.

I don’t agree with you, Real Madrid is not Manchester United, remember the recent match in the Champions League, when at the beginning of the match Liverpool won 2-0 but Real didn’t stop, they gathered and equalized by the end of the first half.

Motivation is good, but you should also consider the character of the team. Imagine at what level the character of Real Madrid, if they were able to at Anfield, losing in the 14th minute with a score of 2-0, in the end they won 2-5. Here, motivation alone is definitely not enough, because they did not accept defeat, but fought to the end.

Of course, Liverpool surprises me, they can lose 2-5 to Real Madrid, but then they win 7-0 MU, this is Klopp's magic, I can’t call it otherwise. Grin

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Liverpool able to score 7 goals against Manchester United, does Liverpool can able to score at least 4 goals to Real Madrid? it's a hard task for Liverpool because the match will happen on Real Madrid's home. I think Liverpool can able to beat Real Madrid, but I don't think they will qualify to the next round since the aggregate points is really big with 3 goals difference. Real Madrid's defenders are better than Manchester United, so I believe Liverpool will not score a lot goals.

Liverpool have vented their defeat against Real madrid so that Manchester United were defeated and humiliated with 7 goals, obviously for Premiere League matches and the Champions League are very different, I think Liverpool will not qualify for the next round because of course it is very difficult for Liverpool to score more than 3 goals to real madrid's goal and it's so impossible.

it will be difficult for Liverpool to get a place in the UCL. although they could have played to their full potential and got a goal at home to Madrid, catching up to the current goal would be far enough. Madrid is not a weak team in UCL, they can always take advantage of opportunities to win. even in the second leg, they are playing at home and it will be very difficult for Liverpool to benefit from this game.

Liverpool did a super awesome performance yesterday night in the Premier League by beating Manchester United with a tennis result of 7-0.They are focusing only on the Premier League as it will be extremely difficult for them to win with three goals difference in Madrid just to put the game on level terms.I also think that Real Madrid is playing really bad in La Liga as of lately which for me is a clear indication that they are focusing exclusively on the Champions League this season and they will be one of the strongest contenders to the Champions League title this year.

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Quote from: Despairo on March 06, 2023, 02:18:15 AM

Liverpool able to score 7 goals against Manchester United, does Liverpool can able to score at least 4 goals to Real Madrid? it's a hard task for Liverpool because the match will happen on Real Madrid's home. I think Liverpool can able to beat Real Madrid, but I don't think they will qualify to the next round since the aggregate points is really big with 3 goals difference. Real Madrid's defenders are better than Manchester United, so I believe Liverpool will not score a lot goals.

Liverpool have vented their defeat against Real madrid so that Manchester United were defeated and humiliated with 7 goals, obviously for Premiere League matches and the Champions League are very different, I think Liverpool will not qualify for the next round because of course it is very difficult for Liverpool to score more than 3 goals to real madrid's goal and it's so impossible.

it will be difficult for Liverpool to get a place in the UCL. although they could have played to their full potential and got a goal at home to Madrid, catching up to the current goal would be far enough. Madrid is not a weak team in UCL, they can always take advantage of opportunities to win. even in the second leg, they are playing at home and it will be very difficult for Liverpool to benefit from this game.

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