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PSG will be actually losing against bayern without messi and mbappe.

I don't know but I feel even if they have a strongest squad with Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, they will not be able to surely win against Bayern. PSG have very weak mentality in Champions League and in many seasons, they lost control of their mentality at important minutes.

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Mbappe has been reported coming back to the training session but im not sure if mbappe will be playing full-time. According to ESPN mbappe may not fully play against Bayern. It seems like that mbappe is not fully recovering. Mbappe has been forcing himself to play against bayern caused by he knows how difficult bayern is as an opponent for PSG.

I don't believe in words of PSG about Mbappe injury and feel like they want to use Mbappe and fake news about his injury to be their best surprising weapon for Bayern. I guess they hope with surprising appearance of Mbappe, they will have better chance to beat Bayern.

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Even galtier was also feeling worried about the match against bayern.

It will be biggest matches in career of Galtier so it is normal if he worries about it.

@X-ray I wouldn’t be surprised if PSG are playing mind game’s with Bayern, because team’s have done it in the past to do this to gain psychological advantage during their matches. Lastly of course he’s worried because he very well knows that failure to win and progress to the next round will mean that he’ll end up losing his job, hence he has to do everything in his power to make sure that PSG win and progresses to the next round.

I think we can see all three of Mbappe, Messi, and Neymar in the squad for this match. And PSG's performance will not be as weak as in some past matches. Galtier knows his weaknesses very well. And he was able to stabilize the team enough. However, PSG's performance has deteriorated badly in the last few matches. If we compare the performance of PSG with Bayern Munich, it is easy to see that PSG is much weaker than Munich. But this could be Galtier's trick. Because he knows very well that it will be very difficult for his team to win against a ladder team like Bayern Munich. I wouldn't be surprised if PSG's recent poor performances are part of Galtier's strategy.

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PSG will be actually losing against bayern without messi and mbappe.

I don't know but I feel even if they have a strongest squad with Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, they will not be able to surely win against Bayern. PSG have very weak mentality in Champions League and in many seasons, they lost control of their mentality at important minutes.

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Mbappe has been reported coming back to the training session but im not sure if mbappe will be playing full-time. According to ESPN mbappe may not fully play against Bayern. It seems like that mbappe is not fully recovering. Mbappe has been forcing himself to play against bayern caused by he knows how difficult bayern is as an opponent for PSG.

I don't believe in words of PSG about Mbappe injury and feel like they want to use Mbappe and fake news about his injury to be their best surprising weapon for Bayern. I guess they hope with surprising appearance of Mbappe, they will have better chance to beat Bayern.

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Even galtier was also feeling worried about the match against bayern.

It will be biggest matches in career of Galtier so it is normal if he worries about it.

@X-ray I wouldn’t be surprised if PSG are playing mind game’s with Bayern, because team’s have done it in the past to do this to gain psychological advantage during their matches. Lastly of course he’s worried because he very well knows that failure to win and progress to the next round will mean that he’ll end up losing his job, hence he has to do everything in his power to make sure that PSG win and progresses to the next round.

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Quote from: X-ray on February 13, 2023, 09:44:48 PM

PSG will be actually losing against bayern without messi and mbappe.

I don't know but I feel even if they have a strongest squad with Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, they will not be able to surely win against Bayern. PSG have very weak mentality in Champions League and in many seasons, they lost control of their mentality at important minutes.

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Mbappe has been reported coming back to the training session but im not sure if mbappe will be playing full-time. According to ESPN mbappe may not fully play against Bayern. It seems like that mbappe is not fully recovering. Mbappe has been forcing himself to play against bayern caused by he knows how difficult bayern is as an opponent for PSG.

I don't believe in words of PSG about Mbappe injury and feel like they want to use Mbappe and fake news about his injury to be their best surprising weapon for Bayern. I guess they hope with surprising appearance of Mbappe, they will have better chance to beat Bayern.

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Even galtier was also feeling worried about the match against bayern.

It will be biggest matches in career of Galtier so it is normal if he worries about it.

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Quote from: samcoin on February 13, 2023, 04:51:23 PM

Indeed, the participation of Mbappe hasn't been confirmed. I have read that the coach of PSG doesn't want to reveal whether Mbappe is ready or not. Honestly, I think Mbappe can help PSG more than Messi. The last matches played by PSG without Mbappe proves my words. However, even if he wasn't in the lineup, he still can participate as a substitution, and has the ability to change the match's result at any time

Mbappe's role is much more prominent for PSG, if only Messi was injured and Mbappe could still participate in PSG's starting line-up against Bayern Munich, of course this match would be quite balanced because in my opinion Mbappe's aggressiveness on the field is very difficult for any team, including Bayern Munich. But indeed the situation seems very difficult to change and it looks like PSG will appear with a makeshift squad to fight Bayern Munich tonight.

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Indeed, the participation of Mbappe hasn't been confirmed. I have read that the coach of PSG doesn't want to reveal whether Mbappe is ready or not. Honestly, I think Mbappe can help PSG more than Messi. The last matches played by PSG without Mbappe proves my words. However, even if he wasn't in the lineup, he still can participate as a substitution, and has the ability to change the match's result at any time

Exciting news for Paris Saint-Germain fans as both Kylian Mbappé and Lionel Messi have reportedly returned to training today ahead of the highly anticipated match against Bayern Munich. While coach Christophe Galtier may choose to keep the lineup under wraps until he has evaluated their performance, there is no denying the crucial role that these two players have in the team's success. I, for one, am eagerly looking forward to a competitive match filled with thrilling gameplay and beautiful goals from both teams, showcasing their full potential

I can't imagine PSG playing their Champions League match against Bayern Munich without these two players. Their inclusion in the squad is enough to motivate the entire team to play better football and strive for victory; it may even scare the opponents. We anticipate a highly entertaining match tomorrow, with both teams showcasing their expertise.

It’s good news for PSG having them back into the squad. They’re key players and shouldn’t be absent in a big game like this. Mbappe will be involved against Bayern Munich. Mbappé was looking at a three week absence for PSG, but his early signs of recovery looked positive. The progress made by Mbappé therefore gives a boost for PSG. It’s going to be a tough game so both teams need their key men to play so they can advance from this stage.

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Quote from: Ndabagi01 on February 13, 2023, 05:56:08 PM

I can't imagine PSG playing their Champions League match against Bayern Munich without these two players. Their inclusion in the squad is enough to motivate the entire team to play better football and strive for victory; it may even scare the opponents. We anticipate a highly entertaining match tomorrow, with both teams showcasing their expertise.

PSG will be actually losing against bayern without messi and mbappe. Mbappe has been reported coming back to the training session but im not sure if mbappe will be playing full-time. According to ESPN mbappe may not fully play against Bayern. It seems like that mbappe is not fully recovering. Mbappe has been forcing himself to play against bayern caused by he knows how difficult bayern is as an opponent for PSG. Even galtier was also feeling worried about the match against bayern.
Bayern has been going back to its best performance. There are so many psywars that are already made by bayern's players. Some players of bayern were also careful with PSG's trio.

That will be very scary to see that mbappe to forces his injury to play. It's quite magical to see him recovered in a short time like that while it has been expected to come back after the match against PSG will end.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on February 13, 2023, 05:15:31 PM

Especially to play away in front of 81,000 dortmund supporters , crazy how the opponent players shaking and nervous , But you know we are talking football that often provide us surprises unexpected result , i wish it did happened though.

And the surprise looks even more real after coach Graham Potter made a few changes on the main squad through an agreement in the previous winter transfer market
The results of the reshuffle could be a serious blow to Borussia Dortmund in the first week of the last 16 of the Champions League.

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There is also news that Messi has recovered and returned to training today with Mbappe, some media say PSG will return to playing them like rumors are circulating but there is no definite conclusion but I am sure they can play if they have trained.
Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/psg/2023/02/13/63ea3b42268e3ec2698b4578.html

Oh I see. That's why odds for Bayern improved. It wad around @2.3 the other day.

Such is the weight of Champions League that they are willing to risk further injury to Mbappe. I don't blame them. PSG will likely defend most of the first half and then flip on the second. That's when Mbappe comes in as a substitute.

A very unfavorable situation because apart from how important this match is for Paris Saint Germain, they also need to consider the condition of the players if they force players to participate even though they previously suffered injuries.
Messi and Mbappe are vehicles that will bring Paris Saint Germain to new achievements, they should be seriously considered

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Indeed, the participation of Mbappe hasn't been confirmed. I have read that the coach of PSG doesn't want to reveal whether Mbappe is ready or not. Honestly, I think Mbappe can help PSG more than Messi. The last matches played by PSG without Mbappe proves my words. However, even if he wasn't in the lineup, he still can participate as a substitution, and has the ability to change the match's result at any time

Exciting news for Paris Saint-Germain fans as both Kylian Mbappé and Lionel Messi have reportedly returned to training today ahead of the highly anticipated match against Bayern Munich. While coach Christophe Galtier may choose to keep the lineup under wraps until he has evaluated their performance, there is no denying the crucial role that these two players have in the team's success. I, for one, am eagerly looking forward to a competitive match filled with thrilling gameplay and beautiful goals from both teams, showcasing their full potential

I can't imagine PSG playing their Champions League match against Bayern Munich without these two players. Their inclusion in the squad is enough to motivate the entire team to play better football and strive for victory; it may even scare the opponents. We anticipate a highly entertaining match tomorrow, with both teams showcasing their expertise.

the big thing that worries me about PSG is their defense, especially now against a team like Bayern Munich, i heard that Mbappe could play, he is training with the team, so if they can get a draw in France, they can qualify in my opinion, all their players will be back in form by the 2nd leg

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I can't imagine PSG playing their Champions League match against Bayern Munich without these two players. Their inclusion in the squad is enough to motivate the entire team to play better football and strive for victory; it may even scare the opponents. We anticipate a highly entertaining match tomorrow, with both teams showcasing their expertise.

Messi will play the game and Mbappe is within the team but not sure how much he will play and if he will be confirmed to be in the starting eleven.
PSG has a tough game vs Bayern in less than 20 hours. The odds are very close.
Milan - Spurs is a challenging game too since both teams are unstable and you will never know how this match will end even though Milan are playing home and their odds are higher Roll Eyes

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Indeed, the participation of Mbappe hasn't been confirmed. I have read that the coach of PSG doesn't want to reveal whether Mbappe is ready or not. Honestly, I think Mbappe can help PSG more than Messi. The last matches played by PSG without Mbappe proves my words. However, even if he wasn't in the lineup, he still can participate as a substitution, and has the ability to change the match's result at any time

Exciting news for Paris Saint-Germain fans as both Kylian Mbappé and Lionel Messi have reportedly returned to training today ahead of the highly anticipated match against Bayern Munich. While coach Christophe Galtier may choose to keep the lineup under wraps until he has evaluated their performance, there is no denying the crucial role that these two players have in the team's success. I, for one, am eagerly looking forward to a competitive match filled with thrilling gameplay and beautiful goals from both teams, showcasing their full potential

I can't imagine PSG playing their Champions League match against Bayern Munich without these two players. Their inclusion in the squad is enough to motivate the entire team to play better football and strive for victory; it may even scare the opponents. We anticipate a highly entertaining match tomorrow, with both teams showcasing their expertise.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on February 13, 2023, 04:50:34 PM

It seems that now Liverpool will be better prepared for the round of 16 match against Real Madrid. in the match against Everton in the premier league we saw Liverpool being able to make a pretty good lead. Even Liverpool's attack pattern looks better than before. well I expect an exciting match between Liverpool and Madrid in the round of 16. But Real Madrid also seems to be starting to show a better game. in the last game Real Madrid won the FIFA Club World Cup Final and became champions. even if it's not a big game. But still, the match was exciting and Real Madrid also impressed. so it is likely that Liverpool will likely have difficulty in the match against Real Madrid.

Both teams are struggling in the local leagues. I think Real Madrid has an upper hand. They usually know how to prepare for big opponents. The problem is when they play small or under looked teams

Liverpool's win over Everton tonight could help build their confidence, but it's going to be a tough and very close encounter. Looking forward to the match.

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Bayern still the slight favorite @2.6 but PSG now @2.65. I placed my bet on B. Munich too early hehe.

There is no difference in betting odds with both @2.6 it will be very possible for PSG to host especially as it is reported that Mbappe, Messi, and Verratti have recovered they are undergoing light training.

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... since Mbappe and Messi are still injury. There's an update if Mbappe have been completing the training today, but I think it would affect his performance.

Is Messi really going to miss too? He didn't play against Monaco but I cannot find any source that says he will also miss the clash against Bayern. I don't know if you just interchange their name. Mbappe is most likely to be out but not Messi.

There is also news that Messi has recovered and returned to training today with Mbappe, some media say PSG will return to playing them like rumors are circulating but there is no definite conclusion but I am sure they can play if they have trained.
Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/psg/2023/02/13/63ea3b42268e3ec2698b4578.html

Oh I see. That's why odds for Bayern improved. It wad around @2.3 the other day.

Such is the weight of Champions League that they are willing to risk further injury to Mbappe. I don't blame them. PSG will likely defend most of the first half and then flip on the second. That's when Mbappe comes in as a substitute.

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Mbappe being back in the squad doesn't guarantee that he will be playing. It could be that he is feeling alright enough that he will be taken there but at the end of the day he could be not fully ready to comeback and considering this is a very important game and they do not need Mbappe to play and reinjure himself this way, it would be quite terrible in the long run.

I personally believe it is better to just focus on him getting better and he could be in the bench and could be played at the last 10-20 or even 30 minutes if he feels fine, that way it would be lower chance of reinjuring himself compared to 90 minutes and he could be resting a lot better for the next game.

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Chelsea hasn't been winning games but they haven't been playing badly of recent so don't expect Chelsea to be the underdogs against Dortmund. When we talk about the champions league experience, Chelsea has more than Dortmund so they should be having the upper hand. Also looking at the individual teams, Chelsea has a superior team and form what I see form their recent games, they have finding some chemistry between them and them knowing that the game against Dortmund is a very important games, I think they'll turn up more.

Chelsea last game in the premier league which they played against West Ham, saw Chelsea score 3 goals within 16 minutes of play but two was ruled out for offside. Chelsea now has an attacking force that is capable of scoring goals so that should be able to upset Dortmund plans of progressing to the next stage of the competition.

If you look at the results of the last 10 matches of the two teams in all competitions, I think Chelsea still won't be able to beat Dortmund. It's not only Chelsea's performance issues that are taken into consideration, in my opinion the Chelsea players still lack coordination and often miss communication between players. Meanwhile, Dortmund have now appeared so consistent and the return of Sebastien Haller has made the attack line even more frightening.

Moreover, Chelsea only won 2 wins and for Dortmund they won 7 wins, with a result like this it is certain that they will experience failure in the UCL. Chelsea's first leg match must fly to Signal Iduna Park which is Dortmund's home ground. I think this season will be a very difficult season for Graham Potter and all of his players.

Surprises are possible in any pair, and in a pair of Dortmund - Chelsea, all the more because since the pair is more or less equal (on paper) and any team can win. But I am surprised how the fans deny the obvious (the pictures show very well which team is in good shape and which is not) and believe in a miracle until the very end and talk about some kind of outsider upper hand.

Statistically .. there is no hope for chelsea to win the match away from home.

Especially to play away in front of 81,000 dortmund supporters , crazy how the opponent players shaking and nervous , But you know we are talking football that often provide us surprises unexpected result , i wish it did happened though.

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Quote from: samcoin on February 13, 2023, 04:51:23 PM

Indeed, the participation of Mbappe hasn't been confirmed. I have read that the coach of PSG doesn't want to reveal whether Mbappe is ready or not. Honestly, I think Mbappe can help PSG more than Messi. The last matches played by PSG without Mbappe proves my words. However, even if he wasn't in the lineup, he still can participate as a substitution, and has the ability to change the match's result at any time

Exciting news for Paris Saint-Germain fans as both Kylian Mbappé and Lionel Messi have reportedly returned to training today ahead of the highly anticipated match against Bayern Munich. While coach Christophe Galtier may choose to keep the lineup under wraps until he has evaluated their performance, there is no denying the crucial role that these two players have in the team's success. I, for one, am eagerly looking forward to a competitive match filled with thrilling gameplay and beautiful goals from both teams, showcasing their full potential

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Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on February 13, 2023, 04:23:35 PM

There was a bit of doubt before for PSG because they were worried about not being able to bring Mbappe and Messi for the first leg but now according to some media reports and seeing the release of players who will be brought in later against Bayern now there are the names Messi, Mbappe and Veratti which was previously reported will not be able to play.
This is obviously very good from a compositional point of view if they can recover on time.

Indeed, the participation of Mbappe hasn't been confirmed. I have read that the coach of PSG doesn't want to reveal whether Mbappe is ready or not. Honestly, I think Mbappe can help PSG more than Messi. The last matches played by PSG without Mbappe proves my words. However, even if he wasn't in the lineup, he still can participate as a substitution, and has the ability to change the match's result at any time

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It seems that now Liverpool will be better prepared for the round of 16 match against Real Madrid. in the match against Everton in the premier league we saw Liverpool being able to make a pretty good lead. Even Liverpool's attack pattern looks better than before. well I expect an exciting match between Liverpool and Madrid in the round of 16. But Real Madrid also seems to be starting to show a better game. in the last game Real Madrid won the FIFA Club World Cup Final and became champions. even if it's not a big game. But still, the match was exciting and Real Madrid also impressed. so it is likely that Liverpool will likely have difficulty in the match against Real Madrid.

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Quote from: W Jr. on February 13, 2023, 02:21:15 PM

Mbappe and Mane won't be on the field tomorrow as far as I know. Both teams will be on the field without one of their most important players. Mane's absence is a great loss for Bayern, as well as a great loss for Psg in Mbappe. In fact, the situations are equal. Paris SG's roster looks better. They are in a better position than Bayern Munich.

Well last week rumors had it that Mbappe would be out for a couple of weeks, thus meaning he was going to miss the first leg of their crunch encounter with Bayern Munich, but it seems that Mbappe has recovered sooner than expected as he trained with the first team squad yesterday and today, thus he could be in contention to start tomorrow. There was also a minor injury scare for Lionel Messi, but he was seen in training today, so he could be fit for the game tomorrow. Whilst in Mane's case, it is certain that he is out of the game, so as things stand it looks like it is advantage Bayern Munich.

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One of the most interesting games of this round will be played tomorrow, psg vs bayern will likely be a competitive one psg are not very good at the moment they lost two many points and games, their defense is very fragile they conceided many goals recently, that will be their main concern in this game especialy when facing an offensive team like bayern even if they are playing home i give a slight advantage to bayern and i think btts is a good bet in this match.

Bayern Munich's own condition also looks almost the same as PSG lately because the results of the matches that Bayern Munich got in their domestic league have also started to draw more after the break. But that also cannot be used as a specific assessment for the Champions League for each team, because here each team will try to perform as well as possible in order to create opportunities to be in the Champions League longer.

There was a bit of doubt before for PSG because they were worried about not being able to bring Mbappe and Messi for the first leg but now according to some media reports and seeing the release of players who will be brought in later against Bayern now there are the names Messi, Mbappe and Veratti which was previously reported will not be able to play.
This is obviously very good from a compositional point of view if they can recover on time.
But on the other hand, even though the performance conditions and the current players are balanced, I am still leaning towards Bayern, it seems because their performance is still not much different from the domestic league perspective, but in terms of experience, of course, Bayern is far superior.

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I see that Milan's winning odd is dropping by a little in time. They are getting more favourite against Tottenham in San Siro. It is actually interesting while Milan aren't having good days either. They won their last match and it should be some morale for them of course. But still it might not be enough for them. Because they still have visible issues in defense. Pioli isn't trying as hard as needed to solve these issues seemingly. Because Torino would have scored even more than one goal if they were more capable at finishing.

Tottenham are no good at defending either recently - especially after that embarrassing 4-1 loss against Leicester. But Tottenham's attackers are better than Milan's in general. I think the key players for these teams are Leao and Kane. Let's see which one will make difference.

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