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Quote from: fzkto on January 31, 2023, 04:11:19 AM

There is no doubt that Real Madrid will beat Liverpool, perhaps even in two games. Liverpool are a completely different team now than the one Real played in the final a year ago. Liverpool are performing very badly in England and Klopp cannot do anything about it. I also think the club management will be thinking about changing the coach soon.

From the results of each Liverpool match which often receives not optimal results, it is very natural for people to analyze if when dealing with Real Madrid in this tournament Liverpool will also receive the same thing.

Since the start of the Champions League from the group stage there have also been big clubs but they failed to survive which made them have to lift the suitcase early. Liverpool, despite not being in the best of form, are still in the round of 16 with unconvincing conditions that have become a topic of conversation. For us it's a normal situation that happens to a big team like Liverpool.

On paper Real Madrid will win, but on the pitch it is not necessarily.

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Quote from: AakZaki on January 31, 2023, 05:25:21 PM

Until now I still believe in English clubs having a better game than Serie A. This certainly makes me feel confident at the moment Tottenham are much better than Ac Milan. But sometimes UCL matches have surprises besides that Milan Also a team that has a lot of experience in the UCL. So it's actually hard to guess. But in the first leg they will play in Italy so my hope is Tottenham can draw. Or lose not by a large margin of goals. The hope is that Tottenham will be able to win and ensure qualifying in the second leg in England.

Imo i think this fixture is evenly balanced at 50/50, the both teams are somewhat of equal strength and if we are to take their respective league performances into account, then they are both struggling and in a pretty bad shape, Spurs are in fifth position in the EPL standings, whilst AC Milan are also fifth in the Seria A table as well. Having said that, i expect it to be an entertaining game, but a very difficult one to call/predict, if i am to throw my weight behind one of these teams in this fixture, then i'd say AC Milan would progress, but only very little would separate the teams in the end.

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liverpool really keeps their hopes in the Champions league because that is the big hope they want to achieve this season. the match between liverpool vs real madrid will be held at Anfield on 22/2.

I am looking forward to watching this match. Despite having a strong squad, Liverpool is not playing well. On the other hand, they will face an experienced team like Madrid. And Madrid needs a great match strategy if they want to win against coach Ancelotti. Liverpool's match strategy is bad now. However, Real Madrid is in a bit of trouble now, having dropped points in the last few matches. So Liverpool vs Real Madrid match is expected to be very competitive.

The two teams have pretty much the same performance right now. Liverpool Premier is in bad shape in the league and they were eliminated in the cup as well. Real Madrid is playing well in La Liga, but it cannot be said that it has been very good in recent weeks. I think it will be a competitive match. I expect a result with a high draw.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on January 31, 2023, 12:19:51 AM

Tottenham and AC Milan are both 5th in the standings in their respective leagues, and I think Tottenham is much better if you look at their last 5 matches.
however the Champions League is a very important competition and even though they are not doing well in their respective leagues there is a possibility in the UCL they will do very well because UCL is a very prestigious competition from other leagues. so of course all players and coaches will try their best to play very well in order to win the match, and it will be a very interesting match.

Until now I still believe in English clubs having a better game than Serie A. This certainly makes me feel confident at the moment Tottenham are much better than Ac Milan. But sometimes UCL matches have surprises besides that Milan Also a team that has a lot of experience in the UCL. So it's actually hard to guess. But in the first leg they will play in Italy so my hope is Tottenham can draw. Or lose not by a large margin of goals. The hope is that Tottenham will be able to win and ensure qualifying in the second leg in England.

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Dortmund v Chelsea can be a quite lovely matchup in this stage. Bookmakers are favouring Chelsea to advance but they don't think the same about the first leg on one hand. Because when we check the odds we can see that Dortmund are slightly favourite to win the match in Signal Iduna Park. But I get the reason of it of course. First of all, Dortmund are really successful in matches home this season. We can see a great example of it in the Bundesliga. They will be a tough challenge for Chelsea there.

As for Chelsea they have had serious problems so far. But they have made new transfers and strengthened the squad more. They only need to maintain a decent form to improve their morale. If they can't do this then Dortmund can have a nice advantage for even the quarter finals.

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The performance of Liverpool in EPL has become the main measurement for people to determine that whether Liverpool has a chance to win against real madrid or not. Real madrid's performance is far better compared with Liverpool in term of consistency of club in the their own local league. Liverpool is struggling with its performance even though some new players have been joining with the club. Jurgen Klopp may be sacked once Liverpool will still get bad results in EPL. Madrid is also having the same problem as Liverpool but it's not as bad as Liverpool which was still in the middle of standing in EPL now.

I don't think it matters what part of the standings a club is in. Those are different leagues. Just objectively, comparing Real Madrid and Liverpool matches, it is clear that Real look much more prepared and stronger than Liverpool. I don't know how the game in England will end, but in Madrid it will definitely be a rout of Liverpool.

I think which position they are in matters even if just a bit. If Liverpool was the leader in Premier League right now, we would say they have a good chance to win, but we have seen them play terrible there which means we are talking about something that is going to take a while and I believe that we shouldn't be really doing something that could take a while, it should be something that could be pretty tough to handle.

I know it is not going to be easy or anything like that, but I am talking about Liverpool sucking all year long, so Real definitely has a better chance to win because of this. Positions matter because of the talent it implicates and Liverpool has shown nothing good.

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liverpool really keeps their hopes in the Champions league because that is the big hope they want to achieve this season. the match between liverpool vs real madrid will be held at Anfield on 22/2.

I am looking forward to watching this match. Despite having a strong squad, Liverpool is not playing well. On the other hand, they will face an experienced team like Madrid. And Madrid needs a great match strategy if they want to win against coach Ancelotti. Liverpool's match strategy is bad now. However, Real Madrid is in a bit of trouble now, having dropped points in the last few matches. So Liverpool vs Real Madrid match is expected to be very competitive.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on January 31, 2023, 01:22:58 PM

Klopp achieved great results with Liverpool, he brought them the title of English champion and European champion after many years of waiting and I don't think he will be fired after one bad season, especially not after one lost game. Such expectations are completely unrealistic.
Liverpool are having a worse season than usual, but I don't see the demands of their fans that Klopp has to go and that a new coach needs to come in. Fans' respect for Klopp is still high, which is also important for the club's management.
Real is also not playing convincingly lately and seems to be losing the race with Barcelona for the title of Spanish champion, but I think that Ancelotti should not be afraid of being fired because of that and that Real fans also respect him a lot.
The match between Real and Liverpool will be a match between two teams that have no chance of winning the title of national champions and whose only chance for a trophy will be winning the Champions League. Therefore, these matches are the highlight of the season for both clubs and the most important matches for both clubs this year.
The matches will be very even and uncertain, but Real still has a small advantage.

I am very sure Klopp will be given more time possible another season because of some reasons. The fans are having faith in him because they feel last season challenge on four tittles has caused serious fatigue to the team. Which has lead to many players leaving the club. The other reason might be because the new signings haven’t lived up to expectations and both the club and fans feel Klopp needs another season to get them straight.

Ancelotti situation might be different from Klopp’s because he is coming off from a season he won practically everything. I don’t agree with about Madrid been already out of the laliga race. The gap between them and Barca is just 5. Moreover Perez prioritizes the UCL over Laliga. So if Ancelotti can get him the trophy again then we might see him staying

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I believe that Klopp also knows that defeat in the champions league matches will mean that he’ll probably be sacked, hence Liverpool player’s will have to fight to save his job. However I feel that they’ll not be able to stop Real Madrid, because this Liverpool side is weak and clearly devoid of confidence hence I’m pretty sure that Real Madrid will win against them.

Naturally, the Liverpool club will fire Jurgen Klopp from the coaching chair if he continues to get minor results in the next few matches. Even though Real Madrid can always beat Liverpool head to head, I think this season Real Madrid will have a few problems in the UCL, considering that several matches in their regular league also often get less than optimal results and some of these problems arise due to a lack of coordination between players. That makes me a little worried that Real Madrid will slip up against Liverpool.

Klopp achieved great results with Liverpool, he brought them the title of English champion and European champion after many years of waiting and I don't think he will be fired after one bad season, especially not after one lost game. Such expectations are completely unrealistic.
Liverpool are having a worse season than usual, but I don't see the demands of their fans that Klopp has to go and that a new coach needs to come in. Fans' respect for Klopp is still high, which is also important for the club's management.
Real is also not playing convincingly lately and seems to be losing the race with Barcelona for the title of Spanish champion, but I think that Ancelotti should not be afraid of being fired because of that and that Real fans also respect him a lot.
The match between Real and Liverpool will be a match between two teams that have no chance of winning the title of national champions and whose only chance for a trophy will be winning the Champions League. Therefore, these matches are the highlight of the season for both clubs and the most important matches for both clubs this year.
The matches will be very even and uncertain, but Real still has a small advantage.

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Quote from: hahay on January 31, 2023, 12:41:27 PM

Yes, of course Real Madrid will still have a chance to win, I personally don't care about Real Madrid's performance in La Liga because Real Madrid is the king in the Champions League. So yes, whoever the opponent Real Madrid faces in this knockout round and no matter how the opposing team performs, I will still believe that there will always be a chance for Real Madrid to win.

I only said about chance and not absolutely about the result of victory, so the Real Madrid v Liverpool match will of course still be interesting because to play in the Champions League of course they will do well.

Liverpool became Real Madrid opponent in the round of 16, indeed Real Madrid is the king in the Champions League and they are the defending champions. But I think it's not a factor that will benefit them if they don't appear stronger in the match later. but if you look at these two teams in the domestic league, surely Real Madrid is still said to be very fully concentrated in maintaining their chances of becoming champions in the domestic league, in contrast to Liverpool who have been eliminated from the title race EPL and they are also having difficulty breaking into the top 4.

liverpool really keeps their hopes in the Champions league because that is the big hope they want to achieve this season. the match between liverpool vs real madrid will be held at Anfield on 22/2.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on January 31, 2023, 11:36:04 AM

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I'm still sure Real Madrid will win this match, especially since Liverpool are currently in bad shape. Real Madrid when playing in the UCL will feel different when playing in Laliga.

of course, Madrid will get a better chance to win. but I still hope the fight will be interesting. because at this time Liverpool's performance was not getting better. it will make it easier for Madrid to win the match.
somehow the strategy that will be used by both teams. but we've seen how Madrid does have a winning mentality in their players. Madrid will not be easily beaten by Liverpool.

Yes, of course Real Madrid will still have a chance to win, I personally don't care about Real Madrid's performance in La Liga because Real Madrid is the king in the Champions League. So yes, whoever the opponent Real Madrid faces in this knockout round and no matter how the opposing team performs, I will still believe that there will always be a chance for Real Madrid to win.

I only said about chance and not absolutely about the result of victory, so the Real Madrid v Liverpool match will of course still be interesting because to play in the Champions League of course they will do well.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on January 31, 2023, 04:03:25 AM

I believe that Klopp also knows that defeat in the champions league matches will mean that he’ll probably be sacked, hence Liverpool player’s will have to fight to save his job. However I feel that they’ll not be able to stop Real Madrid, because this Liverpool side is weak and clearly devoid of confidence hence I’m pretty sure that Real Madrid will win against them.

Naturally, the Liverpool club will fire Jurgen Klopp from the coaching chair if he continues to get minor results in the next few matches. Even though Real Madrid can always beat Liverpool head to head, I think this season Real Madrid will have a few problems in the UCL, considering that several matches in their regular league also often get less than optimal results and some of these problems arise due to a lack of coordination between players. That makes me a little worried that Real Madrid will slip up against Liverpool.

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Quote from: zaki12 on January 31, 2023, 10:59:56 AM

I'm still sure Real Madrid will win this match, especially since Liverpool are currently in bad shape. Real Madrid when playing in the UCL will feel different when playing in Laliga.

of course, Madrid will get a better chance to win. but I still hope the fight will be interesting. because at this time Liverpool's performance was not getting better. it will make it easier for Madrid to win the match.
somehow the strategy that will be used by both teams. but we've seen how Madrid does have a winning mentality in their players. Madrid will not be easily beaten by Liverpool.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on January 30, 2023, 12:06:43 PM

The match between Milan and Tottenham will be one of the most exciting. Both teams are getting surprising results in their respective leagues. Both of the two matches they will play together may result in surprise results. Since the first match will be in Italy, I think Milan is closer to victory. The second game is in England and anything can happen. I think Milan could be the team that will pass the tour. It's going to be a nice matchup, with two teams of equal strength after all.

yes, I agree with you, considering that Milan has attackers who are quite aggressive and hungry for goals, one of which is Giroud who always surprise when playing against any team.
but considering that their main goalkeeper is still injured, it requires the coach to immediately find a replacement, there are indeed other replacement goalkeepers, but I think that the option of playing an available goalkeeper on the bench is a bad decision and can be a weak point in Milan.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on January 31, 2023, 06:05:00 AM

The performance of Liverpool in EPL has become the main measurement for people to determine that whether Liverpool has a chance to win against real madrid or not. Real madrid's performance is far better compared with Liverpool in term of consistency of club in the their own local league. Liverpool is struggling with its performance even though some new players have been joining with the club. Jurgen Klopp may be sacked once Liverpool will still get bad results in EPL. Madrid is also having the same problem as Liverpool but it's not as bad as Liverpool which was still in the middle of standing in EPL now.

Liverpool from 9 meetings with Real Madrid were only able to win 3 of them while Real Madrid were able to win 7 times and one match ended in a draw. From H2h, I'm still sure Real Madrid will win this match, especially since Liverpool are currently in bad shape. Real Madrid when playing in the UCL will feel different when playing in Laliga.

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Quote from: udidrone on January 31, 2023, 09:46:40 AM

Five of the six grub elimination matches were won by Liverpool smoothly, one match ended in defeat when Liverpool faced representative from Serie A Napoli
This result is clearly different from what they get in the EPL. This proves that there is a difference in performance in the domestic league and UCL
In the end I have the same prediction, Madrid has a better chance of winning

Indeed, there is no more accurate prediction than saying that Real Madrid has a bigger chance of winning the game against Liverpool. Because if in two more weeks Liverpool don't improve their performance in their domestic league, of course Liverpool's chances of being beaten by Real Madrid are wide open in the Champions League this season. So like it or not, Liverpool must be very aware that they will face difficult opponents in the Champions League this season, especially in the round of 16.

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Quote from: fzkto on January 31, 2023, 04:11:19 AM

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I believe that Klopp also knows that defeat in the champions league matches will mean that he’ll probably be sacked, hence Liverpool player’s will have to fight to save his job. However I feel that they’ll not be able to stop Real Madrid, because this Liverpool side is weak and clearly devoid of confidence hence I’m pretty sure that Real Madrid will win against them.

There is no doubt that Real Madrid will beat Liverpool, perhaps even in two games. Liverpool are a completely different team now than the one Real played in the final a year ago. Liverpool are performing very badly in England and Klopp cannot do anything about it. I also think the club management will be thinking about changing the coach soon.

Five of the six grub elimination matches were won by Liverpool smoothly, one match ended in defeat when Liverpool faced representative from Serie A Napoli
This result is clearly different from what they get in the EPL. This proves that there is a difference in performance in the domestic league and UCL
In the end I have the same prediction, Madrid has a better chance of winning

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There is no doubt that Real Madrid will beat Liverpool, perhaps even in two games. Liverpool are a completely different team now than the one Real played in the final a year ago. Liverpool are performing very badly in England and Klopp cannot do anything about it. I also think the club management will be thinking about changing the coach soon.

The performance of Liverpool in EPL has become the main measurement for people to determine that whether Liverpool has a chance to win against real madrid or not. Real madrid's performance is far better compared with Liverpool in term of consistency of club in the their own local league. Liverpool is struggling with its performance even though some new players have been joining with the club. Jurgen Klopp may be sacked once Liverpool will still get bad results in EPL. Madrid is also having the same problem as Liverpool but it's not as bad as Liverpool which was still in the middle of standing in EPL now.

I don't think it matters what part of the standings a club is in. Those are different leagues. Just objectively, comparing Real Madrid and Liverpool matches, it is clear that Real look much more prepared and stronger than Liverpool. I don't know how the game in England will end, but in Madrid it will definitely be a rout of Liverpool.

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Quote from: masulum on January 31, 2023, 12:03:23 AM

From the standings position in their respective leagues, Tottenham & Milan maybe equal from the strength. However, if we look at it from the coach's, Conte seems to be able to understand the character of AC Milan. This is an advantage for Tottenham to be able to beat AC Milan. From AC Milan side, the UCL is an important competition, but a loss to Sassuolo in the domestic league will make Milan players getting bad mentality. Before the game against Tottenham, Milan will meet the two teams that have beaten them, Inter Milan in the Supercoppa and Torino in the Coppa Italia. Obviously, the results of this match will further affect the mentality of AC Milan players. IMO, draw is best results for Milan, and if Milan can win the match, I will be surprise.

Tottenham's results have deteriorated, but let's not forget the league levels, and I think it's much harder for Conte to compete in the Premier League on an equal footing with the leaders. I don’t know how to explain the deterioration of Milan’s results, their game is terrible, they are now losing to everyone, and if nothing changes, they will be a simple rival for Tottenham.

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Quote from: fzkto on January 31, 2023, 04:11:19 AM

There is no doubt that Real Madrid will beat Liverpool, perhaps even in two games. Liverpool are a completely different team now than the one Real played in the final a year ago. Liverpool are performing very badly in England and Klopp cannot do anything about it. I also think the club management will be thinking about changing the coach soon.

The performance of Liverpool in EPL has become the main measurement for people to determine that whether Liverpool has a chance to win against real madrid or not. Real madrid's performance is far better compared with Liverpool in term of consistency of club in the their own local league. Liverpool is struggling with its performance even though some new players have been joining with the club. Jurgen Klopp may be sacked once Liverpool will still get bad results in EPL. Madrid is also having the same problem as Liverpool but it's not as bad as Liverpool which was still in the middle of standing in EPL now.

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