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Quote from: X-ray on September 27, 2022, 08:55:54 PM

People are always underestimating real madrid as a club that can win UCL but so many times real madrid has proven us to be wrong caused by real madrid was the only club that able to win UCL for a few times in a row. That proves that if real madrid is still worthy to be called as the best team in the world. Bayern and Man city may become very tough competitors for real madrid but the problem is when people didn't aware if real madrid was always get small odds compared with another club.
I didn't know why so many sites put pretty strange odds for real

No one doubts the existence of Real Madrid in La Liga and in the Champions League. it's just that sometimes other clubs are more interesting for us to discuss. because after all we admit that real madrid have a winning mentality, even though sometimes they are often not very favored.
last season, real madrid three times slipped through the eye of the needle but thanks to the mentality forged by time, they were able to turn things around.
There are three big clubs that have to recognize the greatness of Real Madrid last season, PSG in the last 16, Chelsea in the quarter-finals, and Manchester City in the semifinals. this season also real madrid has a big chance as the favorite team to win the title, however, Man City, PSG, Bayern Munich including Barcelona are very tough competitors in the race for the title this season.

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Yes, I think Manchester City are still the team with the most potential to reach the final and win the Champions League title, and this season they really have to prove that to the world.
But I hope that Real Madrid will also not disappoint this Champions League season even though the probability is lower than Manchester City, PSG, Liverpool and Bayern Munich. The probability is not important because Real Madrid can actually prove it in other ways like last season. I hope things will still be as easy as last season.

When the final part of the playoffs begins in the Champions League, then very often it all depends on specific matches, someone played well in defense and won the penalty shootout, someone was able to score a goal in the last minutes and win. Maybe it's luck, maybe skill, but there are teams that are more lucky. ) City proved that they can reach the final, and Real proved that they can win the final. It is difficult to predict who will win, there are many worthy teams.

Almost every team in the Champions League is strong. And there are many teams that are capable of winning the title. To perform well in the Champions League, there must be consistency in performance. A strong squad is needed. And of course, an experienced coach is needed. I would say that Real Madrid was able to win the title last season because of coach Ancelotti. Ancelotti changed his match strategy almost every match. He adjusts his match strategy considering the strength of the opponent. And this is why Madrid has won both the Champions League and La Liga titles.

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Not quite, according to the average odds of bookmakers we have the following probabilities:

Manchester City - 29.4%
PSG - 14.7%
Bayern München - 12.2%
FC Liverpool - 10.6%
Real Madrid - 9.1%
FC Barcelona 7.7%

Yes, I think Manchester City are still the team with the most potential to reach the final and win the Champions League title, and this season they really have to prove that to the world.

But I hope that Real Madrid will also not disappoint this Champions League season even though the probability is lower than Manchester City, PSG, Liverpool and Bayern Munich. The probability is not important because Real Madrid can actually prove it in other ways like last season. I hope things will still be as easy as last season.

The probability or the statistics provided above is very correct and it is a clear representation of what is happening with the clubs involved. For example if you examine Manchester City team, you will agree that they have been strong not only in this season but previous seasons and yet this season a superb signing of Haaland had made the team more strong to win the champions league. Manchester City are truly the favourites followed by PSG which is another strong and complete team.

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Quote from: Falconer on September 28, 2022, 03:41:38 AM

Yes, I think Manchester City are still the team with the most potential to reach the final and win the Champions League title, and this season they really have to prove that to the world.

But I hope that Real Madrid will also not disappoint this Champions League season even though the probability is lower than Manchester City, PSG, Liverpool and Bayern Munich. The probability is not important because Real Madrid can actually prove it in other ways like last season. I hope things will still be as easy as last season.

When the final part of the playoffs begins in the Champions League, then very often it all depends on specific matches, someone played well in defense and won the penalty shootout, someone was able to score a goal in the last minutes and win. Maybe it's luck, maybe skill, but there are teams that are more lucky. ) City proved that they can reach the final, and Real proved that they can win the final. It is difficult to predict who will win, there are many worthy teams.

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Quote from: bullrun2024bro on September 27, 2022, 10:19:38 AM

Not quite, according to the average odds of bookmakers we have the following probabilities:

Manchester City - 29.4%
PSG - 14.7%
Bayern München - 12.2%
FC Liverpool - 10.6%
Real Madrid - 9.1%
FC Barcelona 7.7%

Yes, I think Manchester City are still the team with the most potential to reach the final and win the Champions League title, and this season they really have to prove that to the world.

But I hope that Real Madrid will also not disappoint this Champions League season even though the probability is lower than Manchester City, PSG, Liverpool and Bayern Munich. The probability is not important because Real Madrid can actually prove it in other ways like last season. I hope things will still be as easy as last season.

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Quote from: barbara44 on September 27, 2022, 12:58:20 AM

we have three teams as hot favorite for title in Champions League and these are Manchester City, PSG and Bayern Munich

You left Real Madrid out of this and for the record alongside all those three teams that you have listed, Real Madrid has also won twice so far so there is no reason to leave them out of the equation for now. Well if you insist on doing only top three teams then you should probably leave PSG out of it because Im not convinced that they are going to win anything out of their domestic league

Yes, Real Madrid are the favorites in the Champions League, because they have the mentality for it. In fact, I rank them as favorites every season, although many doubt they won't speak much more in the Champions League. There is no reason not to put them in the list of favorites this season for what they have achieved in La Liga and also in the Champions League chapter.

They might be couple of y'all favorites to win the Champions League but I think It's Gon be almost boring if they win the Champions League back again lol, it's also the same thing Manchester City would be doing in the premier league this season if a miracle doesn't happen. Lol.

I don't doubt them in anyway but I really want to see another club win the champions league it should be more competitive and hard to predict who is finally crowned Champions of Europe.

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Quote from: X-ray on September 27, 2022, 08:55:54 PM

People are always underestimating real madrid as a club that can win UCL but so many times real madrid has proven us to be wrong caused by real madrid was the only club that able to win UCL for a few times in a row. That proves that if real madrid is still worthy to be called as the best team in the world

For every seasons Real Madrid is not the first favourite champion in this competition so it's normal if some of people underestimate them but often too they can able to flipped people predictions and win the trophy and this also several times happened even last season too they are not the favourite because people are more likely to choose manchester City or PSG to won the trophy and don't ever let Real Madrid went to final match because they have 100% winning rates playing at the final matches since champion league changing format and this season their journey is more easy because on group F they don't have strong opponent

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Quote from: rugrats on September 28, 2022, 02:14:23 AM

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we have three teams as hot favorite for title in Champions League and these are Manchester City, PSG and Bayern Munich

You left Real Madrid out of this and for the record alongside all those three teams that you have listed, Real Madrid has also won twice so far so there is no reason to leave them out of the equation for now. Well if you insist on doing only top three teams then you should probably leave PSG out of it because Im not convinced that they are going to win anything out of their domestic league

Yes, Real Madrid are the favorites in the Champions League, because they have the mentality for it. In fact, I rank them as favorites every season, although many doubt they won't speak much more in the Champions League. There is no reason not to put them in the list of favorites this season for what they have achieved in La Liga and also in the Champions League chapter.

But for now if I compare between PSG and Bayern Munich it seems PSG is definitely better, when Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga starts to crumble then of course Bayern Munich will place a higher focus on the Bundesliga. Although indeed, so far Bayern Munich is still doing well in the Champions League by leading group C but if its performance worsens in the Bundesliga I am personally quite sure the performance will be unconvincing as well to be able to advance further in the Champions League.

Bayern Munich is now far behind in the Bundesliga. If they don't focus on the Bundesliga now, it will be difficult for them to win the Bundesliga title this season. Because this season the performance of teams like Union Berlin, and Dortmund is good. On the other hand, the PSG team has been able to maintain consistency in both the Champions League and Ligue 1. If they can maintain such consistency, their performance in the Champions League will not deteriorate.

It is well understood in the case of Real Madrid. They are always a threat in La Liga and Champions League. Real Madrid had a great unforgettable run last season. They defeated defending champion Chelsea, they went into a back and forth action against Manchester City before they rammed Liverpool in the finals. This season, Real Madrid is more confident of a repeat.

The Champions League is always a tough league. Bayern Munich for example is another team that won the finals multiple times. What happened to them in Bundesliga now already happened to them before and they always weathered the storm.

My favorite teams to win this season are Manchester City and Real Madrid. I will put Bayern Munich and PSG tied at 3 and 4.

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Quote from: hahay on September 28, 2022, 01:56:04 AM

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Quote from: barbara44 on September 27, 2022, 12:58:20 AM

we have three teams as hot favorite for title in Champions League and these are Manchester City, PSG and Bayern Munich

You left Real Madrid out of this and for the record alongside all those three teams that you have listed, Real Madrid has also won twice so far so there is no reason to leave them out of the equation for now. Well if you insist on doing only top three teams then you should probably leave PSG out of it because Im not convinced that they are going to win anything out of their domestic league

Yes, Real Madrid are the favorites in the Champions League, because they have the mentality for it. In fact, I rank them as favorites every season, although many doubt they won't speak much more in the Champions League. There is no reason not to put them in the list of favorites this season for what they have achieved in La Liga and also in the Champions League chapter.

But for now if I compare between PSG and Bayern Munich it seems PSG is definitely better, when Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga starts to crumble then of course Bayern Munich will place a higher focus on the Bundesliga. Although indeed, so far Bayern Munich is still doing well in the Champions League by leading group C but if its performance worsens in the Bundesliga I am personally quite sure the performance will be unconvincing as well to be able to advance further in the Champions League.

Bayern Munich is now far behind in the Bundesliga. If they don't focus on the Bundesliga now, it will be difficult for them to win the Bundesliga title this season. Because this season the performance of teams like Union Berlin, and Dortmund is good. On the other hand, the PSG team has been able to maintain consistency in both the Champions League and Ligue 1. If they can maintain such consistency, their performance in the Champions League will not deteriorate.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on September 28, 2022, 01:02:51 AM

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Quote from: barbara44 on September 27, 2022, 12:58:20 AM

we have three teams as hot favorite for title in Champions League and these are Manchester City, PSG and Bayern Munich

You left Real Madrid out of this and for the record alongside all those three teams that you have listed, Real Madrid has also won twice so far so there is no reason to leave them out of the equation for now. Well if you insist on doing only top three teams then you should probably leave PSG out of it because Im not convinced that they are going to win anything out of their domestic league

Yes, Real Madrid are the favorites in the Champions League, because they have the mentality for it. In fact, I rank them as favorites every season, although many doubt they won't speak much more in the Champions League. There is no reason not to put them in the list of favorites this season for what they have achieved in La Liga and also in the Champions League chapter.

But for now if I compare between PSG and Bayern Munich it seems PSG is definitely better, when Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga starts to crumble then of course Bayern Munich will place a higher focus on the Bundesliga. Although indeed, so far Bayern Munich is still doing well in the Champions League by leading group C but if its performance worsens in the Bundesliga I am personally quite sure the performance will be unconvincing as well to be able to advance further in the Champions League.

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Quote from: barbara44 on September 27, 2022, 12:58:20 AM

we have three teams as hot favorite for title in Champions League and these are Manchester City, PSG and Bayern Munich

You left Real Madrid out of this and for the record alongside all those three teams that you have listed, Real Madrid has also won twice so far so there is no reason to leave them out of the equation for now. Well if you insist on doing only top three teams then you should probably leave PSG out of it because Im not convinced that they are going to win anything out of their domestic league

Yes, Real Madrid are the favorites in the Champions League, because they have the mentality for it. In fact, I rank them as favorites every season, although many doubt they won't speak much more in the Champions League. There is no reason not to put them in the list of favorites this season for what they have achieved in La Liga and also in the Champions League chapter.

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The problem now is that some players can't play for them and it's confirmed that Kounde and Araujo can't play now.
Kunde is expected to be out for the next 4 to 5 weeks due to his injury and Araujo is more severe and is expected to be out for 8 weeks for Barcelona.
Obviously this is a loss for them because indeed these two players can be considered vital in their position.

The injury to Jules Kounde and Araujo will not be an obstacle for Barcelona because Xavi Hernandez has other players who are ready to appear to strengthen Barcelona defense such as Christensen and Eric Garcia. Likewise with the news of the injury that befell Frenkie De Jong. Xavi still has Gavi and Pedri who will fill the midfield to help Lewandowski on the front lines.

Barcelona's midfield and defense are now very strong. Jules Kounde will not be with the squad though. However, Barcelona's defense is strong enough. Xavi has enough talented players. So even if Jules Kounde is not in the squad, Xavi has a worthy replacement. Also Barcelona probably won't face too many problems due to their strong midfield and attack. Also Barcelona's match strategy is excellent.

Barcelona midfielders and defenders are really doing well in this season that is making people to predict for their favour, because it hard for Barcelona to experience defeat from any team than to embraced victory at the end of the match. I think, Barcelona coach still have more potential midfielders and defenders on bench Incase anyone experience injury, it will not make the team to experience loss than to maintain the winning to prove to people that things has changed positively with them in this season. No doubt, Barcelona will win their next match to increase their points because their coach has prepared his players very well to embrace victory in all competition.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 27, 2022, 03:26:44 AM

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Here you have nothing new because we all know prediction is not easy in early matches and every time we have three teams as hot favorite for title in Champions League and these are Manchester City, PSG and Bayern Munich and currently two teams are having strong chance for winning and these are Manchester City and PSG because both are having very settled player and quality attack which can thrash any teams defense so with this most chances this year deadlock is going to end for these two, and we are going to have new Champions but still nothing is clear as any team can do upset, and we will have some change things in coming days.

Haaland is surely just one man show for Manchester City which is currently doing one of the best performance and no one can stop him with PSG having Mbappé and Neymar with veteran Messi is also in good shape which mean these two are best in this business.

So are you. You know, we're not saying that PSG or Man City will win the Champions League for sure. as you said that predictions are just predictions, regarding the results later, let time will tell. it's just that, as you also said, so far Man City and PSG have a big chance to win the champions league trophy this season.
In fact, Real Madrid still has a bigger chance of winning this season than Bayern Munich. However, as we all know, predictions are not easy, both Man City, PSG, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, are big teams that are always expected to be champions.

People are always underestimating real madrid as a club that can win UCL but so many times real madrid has proven us to be wrong caused by real madrid was the only club that able to win UCL for a few times in a row. That proves that if real madrid is still worthy to be called as the best team in the world. Bayern and Man city may become very tough competitors for real madrid but the problem is when people didn't aware if real madrid was always get small odds compared with another club.
I didn't know why so many sites put pretty strange odds for real

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on September 27, 2022, 07:05:51 PM

Agreed, I think this is the reason why Real Madrid keeps destroying any team they come across in the Champions League especially when they get to the knockout stages. The bookmarkers have always belittled the capability of Real Madrid even after being the only team that has won the trophy back to back yet they are not recognized anyday as the favorite to the competition or probably one of the major contenders to the league. As it is now Madrid remains the favorite to me because they have the experience and the energy required to play and win games in the Champions League, they will always be the first team to be nominated if am to do so because they got what it takes to win it again.

In fact, there is nothing unusual in some belittling of the chances of Real Madrid in recent seasons, especially in the last season in a row. Nevertheless, the Champions League is a fairly competitive tournament in which there is a group of teams among which there is no unconditional unconditional winner and therefore it is doubtful that any team has often repeated its success. Therefore, Real Madrid is abnormal with its successes and has already shamed this bunch with its luck mixed with skill. And yes, I would still venture to assume that Real Madrid will not be able to repeat its success and win the Champions League this season. Every luck has its limits. However, if Real Madrid can refute this, then I wouldn't be surprised either. The team has already managed to accustom rivals and spectators to this Wink

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Quote from: barbara44 on September 27, 2022, 12:58:20 AM

we have three teams as hot favorite for title in Champions League and these are Manchester City, PSG and Bayern Munich

You left Real Madrid out of this and for the record alongside all those three teams that you have listed, Real Madrid has also won twice so far so there is no reason to leave them out of the equation for now. Well if you insist on doing only top three teams then you should probably leave PSG out of it because Im not convinced that they are going to win anything out of their domestic league

I agree with you we should include Real Madrid in the list of top teams that will win the Champions League trophy. Moreover, Real Madrid was
the winner of the Champions League the previous season, and Real Madrid's performance has been very consistent this season. When viewed
from the number of Champions League trophies, Real Madrid is still the team with the most Champions League trophies. So it's something strange
not to include Real Madrid in the list of favorite teams this season to win the Champions League trophy.

In my opinion Bayern and PSG should be removed from the list of favorite teams to win the Champions League trophy, for Bayern they did well
in the two Champions League games, but their form was not so good in the Bundesliga, it makes me think that Bayern will be inconsistent this season.
Then for PSG, they did well in the Champions League and Ligue 1. However, like the previous season, PSG can only dominate in Ligue 1, later when PSG
face a team that is at the same level in the Champions League it will usually have difficulty. So my favorites this season for the Champions League
trophy winners are Man City and also Real Madrid.

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Quote from: jaberwock on September 27, 2022, 11:41:30 AM

I wouldn't say that they are the kings, they won it last year but that doesn't mean that they will win it this year neither. It’s going to be a tough job but I believe that they are going to end up with a good run, yet fail at somewhere along quarter finals or even maybe semi-finals.

PSG and City are fighting for the title very carefully, they really need it and in order to make all these spending count for something the league titles are not enough anymore, they need to win something in UCL to keep this up, otherwise it would not make any sense at all. I personally believe either City or PSG will win it and finally have the happy ending they wanted.

For now Real Madrid remains the king of the CL until the season ends and a new king emerges in which so many predictions are on Man City and PSG. I will still add Xavi boys to the list because Xavi too is bent on lifting this trophy and sending it to Camp Nou. For now City, PSG, Barca and Real Madrid have equal chances of doing the needful to the CL title and the best strategy wins the trophy until then Real Madrid remains the king of the CL

I don't think xavi boys can make it caused by there's bayern who can beat it anytime. Bayern must be included in that list too. I meant we must see the reality based on the statistic from the previous match. This time real madrid is not facing any lose which has proven it has become the best team that ever exist for now. The players that played in real madrid being choosen by the best manager and the players can adapt with the situation in the club.
The performance from real madrid is always the best compared with another club. City has a goal machine but real has fully balanced team.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on September 27, 2022, 06:40:25 PM

Every season we have similar predictions, we will always put Real Madrid far from the top, we will always disrespect them and they will always prove us wrong. Underrate Real Madrid at your own peril. Whether they are inform or not, provided that they are in the Champions League always rate the first. As long as it is the Champions League, never bet that Real Madrid will lose the match, this is how it should be until it is proven wrong, but till then, I put Real Madrid at the top of your chart. Sorry if this offends you.

Agreed, I think this is the reason why Real Madrid keeps destroying any team they come across in the Champions League especially when they get to the knockout stages. The bookmarkers have always belittled the capability of Real Madrid even after being the only team that has won the trophy back to back yet they are not recognized anyday as the favorite to the competition or probably one of the major contenders to the league. As it is now Madrid remains the favorite to me because they have the experience and the energy required to play and win games in the Champions League, they will always be the first team to be nominated if am to do so because they got what it takes to win it again.

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Quote from: barbara44 on September 27, 2022, 12:58:20 AM

we have three teams as hot favorite for title in Champions League and these are Manchester City, PSG and Bayern Munich

You left Real Madrid out of this and for the record alongside all those three teams that you have listed, Real Madrid has also won twice so far so there is no reason to leave them out of the equation for now. Well if you insist on doing only top three teams then you should probably leave PSG out of it because Im not convinced that they are going to win anything out of their domestic league

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In fact, Real Madrid still has a bigger chance of winning this season than Bayern Munich. However, as we all know, predictions are not easy, both Man City, PSG, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, are big teams that are always expected to be champions.

Not quite, according to the average odds of bookmakers we have the following probabilities:

Manchester City - 29.4%
PSG - 14.7%
Bayern München - 12.2%
FC Liverpool - 10.6%
Real Madrid - 9.1%
FC Barcelona 7.7%

Source: https://www.bettingodds.com/football/champions-league/winner

According to the bookmakers, Manchester City's CL victory seems to be the most likely with just under 30%. After that it is very very close and all other top teams have similar probabilities.

Every season we have similar predictions, we will always put Real Madrid far from the top, we will always disrespect them and they will always prove us wrong. Underrate Real Madrid at your own peril. Whether they are inform or not, provided that they are in the Champions League always rate the first. As long as it is Champions league, never bet that Real Madrid will lose match, this is how it should be until it is proven wrong, but till then, I put Real Madrid at the top of your chart. Sorry if this offends you.

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Quote from: Zilon on September 27, 2022, 05:01:44 PM

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I wouldn't say that they are the kings, they won it last year but that doesn't mean that they will win it this year neither. It’s going to be a tough job but I believe that they are going to end up with a good run, yet fail at somewhere along quarter finals or even maybe semi-finals.

PSG and City are fighting for the title very carefully, they really need it and in order to make all these spending count for something the league titles are not enough anymore, they need to win something in UCL to keep this up, otherwise it would not make any sense at all. I personally believe either City or PSG will win it and finally have the happy ending they wanted.

For now Real Madrid remains the king of the CL until the season ends and a new king emerges in which so many predictions are on Man City and PSG. I will still add Xavi boys to the list because Xavi too is bent on lifting this trophy and sending it to Camp Nou. For now City, PSG, Barca and Real Madrid have equal chances of doing the needful to the CL title and the best strategy wins the trophy until then Real Madrid remains the king of the CL

It is very worthy of Real Madrid to be called the king of the Champions League competition, because Real Madrid has managed to get
14 Champions League trophies. And it is very possible this season Real Madrid will win the Champions League trophy again, if we see
Real Madrid's performance is very good this season. But as you said there are still Barcelona and Man City who can be serious contenders
for Real Madrid in the Champions League. But for PSG I'm not sure they can win the Champions League trophy. Although PSG have quite
a lot of star players, and achieved positive results in the Champions League in two games. I see PSG players don't have a good cooperation,
still looks selfish among PSG players. Especially for Mbappe and Neymar they are both still often seen playing selfishly. So my prediction is
that the farthest PSG will go in the Champions League is only reaching the semifinals.

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