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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 17, 2022, 11:13:21 AM

If Allegri is sacked then most probably we would see Tuchel to fill his place. However I would still doubt whether this change would affect them very positively. I don't know the real reason behind their poor performance now. They had really good times with Allegri in the past as well. Maybe it's not because of Allegri now. But he needs to improve the morale of his players as fast as possible. They are very inconsistent in not only the Champions League but also Serie A.

This is very familiar with Chelsea's condition. We will see if Graham Potter will be the solution for them.

You are probably right that this would be the most logical step given what the market for managers currently looks like.

Now does Juventus think that Tuchel could do the same with Juventus as he did with Chelsea? Take over the team and win the champions league title?

The way things played out for Tuchel were just amazing. Get sacked by PSG, go to Chelsea and beat Manchester City in the final. That is a story any coach can only dream of. But it did work out. Would it work out again that way? I really think that involves so much luck and lucky circumstances, nobody can tell.

Tuchel seems to be a person that solely lives based on his success. If he wins, he stays, if he loses, he has to leave. The reason is that there is no sympathy between him and his employers ever. The soccer business is hard, but Tuchel takes it to another level to his own disadvantage at times. Eventually, he doesn't care because he can sign amazing contracts. If he gets sacked, he goes home with millions and millions in his pocket for no work whatsoever for several years to come.

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If Allegri is sacked then most probably we would see Tuchel to fill his place. However I would still doubt whether this change would affect them very positively. I don't know the real reason behind their poor performance now. They had really good times with Allegri in the past as well. Maybe it's not because of Allegri now. But he needs to improve the morale of his players as fast as possible. They are very inconsistent in not only the Champions League but also Serie A.

This is very familiar with Chelsea's condition. We will see if Graham Potter will be the solution for them.

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Quote from: Yurkov on September 16, 2022, 01:08:39 AM

Basically I watched the entire game. Borussia Dortmund played really well. They always prevented Manchester City from getting the ball. Their defense has shown great potential. I expected them to win the game. But Haland's goal in the last phase of the game put Dortmund behind and ultimately defeated.

Because it was too defensive, so it made Manchester City play quite loose in the middle of the field, and I think if they played loose, maybe they could get a draw, but the second goal scored by Haaland further reduced the chances for Dortmund. There were several opportunities that Dortmund couldn't maximize on scoring goals, this should be of particular concern in the next match against Sevilla.

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To lose to Manchester city is not that big of a deal. Manchester city is a superb team made up of top notch players that play as a team to get the desired goal. Dortmund played well and tried their best. They were rewarded with a goal but couldn’t hold or keep up the pressure as Manchester city came from behind and scored 2 goals to win the match. Haaland with the late goal came through for Manchester city to score and win the game against his former teammates. Haaland is undeniably a prolific striker and he’s bound to make a difference in his time at Manchester city.

Why not be a big deal, it's a qualifier which is certainly important to secure full points, and if Dortmund's game was a bit more open and didn't defend completely, maybe they could have got a draw in that game, so against Sevilla on 12 October it would be easier, because if Dortmund lose their next match, it will place them in third place in Group G.

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Quote from: zaki12 on September 15, 2022, 05:15:22 AM

Will Allegri be sacked? Or will they last until winter or for another season? And the result could be worse for Juventus. Benfica are not tired of creating chances, they are capable of scoring goals, once again the Portuguese team remains firmly established as the dark horse in the competition once again. In fact, Benfica could actually embarrass Juventus by scoring at least 3 or 4 more goals.

The lot of transfers made by juventus some time ago many predicted that juventus would be title challengers this season, but in fact juventus continued to get bad results in a row in serie A and champions league, I think it is impossible to blame the current players because they are have a capable squad, so inevitably Allegri performance is questionable at this time, I also think that Allegri coaching methods and strategies are quite ancient and many opposing teams have understood and can read the weaknesses of Allegri strategy, I think if Allegri really loves Juventus, it's time for him to leave his position before Juventus gets worse, because as far as I know, Allegri has a long-term contract at Juventus, so it's difficult for Juventus to fire allegri unless they are willing to spend big enough money as compensation for allegri.

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I think, it will be difficult for PSG to win this season trophy because their starting in this UEFA champions competition, showed that they will not go far in this season if their coach continue benching some of the players that know how to attract early goals on the first half. If PSG coach can work on their midfield before their next match, I believe there will be massive change, because their strikers are lacking help from their midfielders. I don't think Ajax can defeat Manchester city in this season, because many things has changed in Manchester city in this season that will make them unbeatable through out this tournament.

This is going to be a long season and with the world cup coming up soon the league fixtures are really tight so it is understandable to see some squad rotations on various occasions to give room to other players and to rest the best ones for tougher games. Sometimes these rotations term to drop the teams performance but in the long run it is important to preserve the best players for the toughest games.

The Champions League is an elite competition in Europe, all the teams that play there will try to reduce all their strength in order to perform optimally. Rotation is very necessary when a team has a busy schedule, the coach does not carelessly rotate certain matches such as in the Champions League. Usually the coach rotates in the League Cup or domestic League when dealing with weak teams. The coach must give time off for key players in order to perform optimally in the Champions League, because the main target of a team at the end of the season is to secure the Champions League trophy.

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Benfica and Napoli performed very well earlier this season... To be honest I thought Juventus could beat Benfica, but they failed to do so at home... Most likely the return game will also be a close game... I think PSG and Benfica will be able to go on from this group as the strongest clubs, but Juventus will have a chance to fight for the chance to make it out of the group!

Juventus appeared so very disappointing at the start of this season. Four defeats in a row clearly reap great criticism from the fans. Allegri was in the spotlight for the disgraceful result. Juventini's anger has been seen in various media, they want Allegri to leave. In this case the President of Juventus must immediately take a stand, because their hopes of continuing to advance in the Champions League are very small, if they continue to show such a game.

Will Allegri be sacked? Or will they last until winter or for another season? And the result could be worse for Juventus. Benfica are not tired of creating chances, they are capable of scoring goals, once again the Portuguese team remains firmly established as the dark horse in the competition once again. In fact, Benfica could actually embarrass Juventus by scoring at least 3 or 4 more goals.

I'd actually be very surprised if that doesn't happen, and probably very soon.
Allegri is an old-fashioned coach who tries to achieve success with old ideas, but that no longer works in modern football.
Juve was very active in the football market and invested a lot in new players, but there are no results.
In both competitions, the Italian championship and the Champions League, Juve had a very poor start and it is obvious that there must be an urgent change.
Otherwise, Juve could suffer the fate of Barcelona from last season, not do qualify for the knockout stage of the Champions League.

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Quote from: Falconer on September 16, 2022, 02:00:02 PM

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Again and again Real Madrid was not in the prediction, because the previous season also Real Madrid were not considered for the Champions League title but in fact they were kings. I just don't want to have high hopes for any team to win the title this season, because I am also aware that some big teams with great squads certainly have a chance to win the title. But again and again, they are still difficult to predict even from the start until the end, there will always be surprises which of course all teams fight as best they can.

Real Madrid were of course lucky after they were confirmed in Group F where the other 3 teams didn't seem like a big deal to them. I don't think we will drop points in the group stage even if Benzema is out through injury. Leipzig, Shakhtar Donetsk and Celtic seem to be easy opponents for Real Madrid, so I hope we are safe to lead the table until matchday 6.

For now I don't want to talk too much especially about the final yet to be seen. Even if Real Madrid can easily qualify for the last 16, it won't guarantee anything we can get to the final this season.

Actually it is not possible to say which team will play the final. The season has just started and we have to wait for a few more days, as all the teams are in pretty good form at the moment. But Real Madrid really deserve to play in the final.

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Quote from: fzkto on September 17, 2022, 08:17:29 AM

Barcelona face outsider Elche, having a good break before playing Inter in the Champions League. I don't think there's much to think about except that Barcelona will win tonight. I think they will be able to practice well in this game before the upcoming serious match in the Champions League.

Barcelona will face Elche who is the weakest team in La Liga, facing Elche is not a difficult job for Barcelona at the moment and I think Xavi will field a second-tier barcelona squad to face Elche later, so far Barcelona have managed to get positive results and they can 4 wins and 1 draw from 5 matches, while Elche only got 1 point from 1 draw and 4 defeats from 5 matches, considering the easy opponent for barcelona of course the potential for 3 points will be easy to get today and of course Xavi will rotate players and save some main players in that the match to face a more difficult match in the champions league later.

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Quote from: fzkto on September 17, 2022, 08:17:29 AM

Barcelona face outsider Elche, having a good break before playing Inter in the Champions League. I don't think there's much to think about except that Barcelona will win tonight. I think they will be able to practice well in this game before the upcoming serious match in the Champions League.

Barcelona will win easily in today's match. I don't want to think about losing. Barcelona is far ahead of the opposition. I think today's game is just a warm-up for Barcelona. The opposing team will play defensively. They will want to draw the game.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on September 17, 2022, 06:01:47 AM

I've checked it and seen this. Grin

This time Real Madrid's odd is very low which is not worth adding to a betslip. Real Madrid over 1.5 goals doesn't have any odd yet so maybe it might be more logical to bet on. Because Real Madrid don't have much problem on scoring multiple goals now.

Real beat the stronger (albeit formally) Leipzig and Celtic without any problems, so such odds for a home game are quite expected (although I see no reason to bet with such low odds). Playing regularly with Barelona, Real Madrid is unlikely to be surprised by Shakhtar's style of play with many passes and ball control. If I knew for sure that Real Madrid would play this game with the main squad, then I would bet on Real Madrid to win with a handicap of -1 or -2 goals.

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Barcelona face outsider Elche, having a good break before playing Inter in the Champions League. I don't think there's much to think about except that Barcelona will win tonight. I think they will be able to practice well in this game before the upcoming serious match in the Champions League.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 17, 2022, 07:01:36 AM

I don't know much about ajax, but if we look at it from statistics. they have impressive performances in the domestic league, their performances are quite solid that's why ajax can't be underestimated in Group A. Champions League group stage still has matches remaining and I think it can change at any time.
I will not rush to say that Napoli and Liverpool, who will qualify for the next round. however, if ajax can beat Napoli during the match later as the host. ajax has another chance to qualify for the next round, and group A will be more competitive.

Very true, Ajax have better performance in their domestic league, compared to Liverpool in their domestic league. However, their last match is against Napoli which has been playing very well in this champions league, while Liverpool will face Rangers which is easier compared to Napoli, so I am on the Liverpool side if we talk about going to the next round.

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Quote from: hyudien on September 17, 2022, 01:41:36 AM

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I don't agree with you about Ajax, they played great against Liverpool and confidently beat Rangers. Despite the fact that Napoli started the group stage well, it still doesn't mean anything. Ajax will almost certainly beat Napoli at home and possibly beat Liverpool as well. The group is very complex and everything is very confusing in it. The only thing that can be said for sure is that Rangers will be in last place, although even they sometimes have breakthroughs when they start to play better, but now the Champions League is clearly not their level.

Ajax cannot be underestimated. There are many things that Ajax can do to survive in the group stage. Even though there are Napoli and Liverpool, Ajax opportunities are still open. There are 3 matches left to see who survives in Group A. So, if there are 2 matches remaining, it will be clear which club has qualified. I think that Ajax and the young players currently developing need time, but the Champions League is always unpredictable.

I don't know much about ajax, but if we look at it from statistics. they have impressive performances in the domestic league, their performances are quite solid that's why ajax can't be underestimated in Group A. Champions League group stage still has matches remaining and I think it can change at any time.
I will not rush to say that Napoli and Liverpool, who will qualify for the next round. however, if ajax can beat Napoli during the match later as the host. ajax has another chance to qualify for the next round, and group A will be more competitive.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on September 15, 2022, 05:10:01 AM

I was curious about why Real Madrid's odd was high again as it was around 1.65. However I still trusted them with my bet and won nicely. Considering the strength of their opponents so far these were really nice opportunities for placing a bet on them. It will be the same for their Shakhtar match also. I'd love to have another odd like this to take advantage of it. Grin

I am not sure why Madrid odds was quite high compare to other teams odds such as Manchester City or PSG which is usually very low but my thoughts is because this season Madrid is not the first favourite to win champion league so that's why they have high odds for each matches but i think this is good opportunity to bets for them because they can wins for almost every matches and last week too while against Celtic bookmakers provide high odds for them approximately @1.73 next match against Shakhtar probably the odds will not so different

I've checked it and seen this. Grin

This time Real Madrid's odd is very low which is not worth adding to a betslip. Real Madrid over 1.5 goals doesn't have any odd yet so maybe it might be more logical to bet on. Because Real Madrid don't have much problem on scoring multiple goals now.

Ajax are indeed not a team that should be underestimated in the Champions League. Ajax have a couple of titles won in this tournament in the distant past. When we come back to the near history of the tournament we can see a season that they reached the semi final too. They have been a much more successful team than Napoli here as a result. I'm aware of how strong Napoli are playing now. But the most important part of this group will be the matches between Napoli and Ajax. They are going to face each other two times in a row now. We will see for real which side is better this season.

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 17, 2022, 12:10:27 AM

It is not very good to write Ajax off this early time because we perceived that Liverpool and Napoli are bigger names than Ajax. We should not allow names to deceive us in making judgements. Ajax has proven that they are strong and can pull wonders from the group stage.
You can see with me that Liverpool is not finding great games this season and they are still looking for the beat strategy that will favour them but Ajax has already gotten a strategy. What I actually have to say is that Ajax team I watched has the capability to beat any club in their group if they so determine to do. According to the last comment before mine, the only sure and predictable thing is that Rangers will not qualify from the group, apart from that, every other things are open and anyone of the threecubs can grab it.

I can't say that Ajax is a less famous team than Napoli, I would even say that in recent years Ajax have achieved much better results in the European arena. Ajax score a lot in every match, except for the match with Liverpool when they managed to score only one goal. I thought that Ajax and Liverpool would be the leaders, but Napoli also turned out to be very ambitious and, unexpectedly for me, beat Liverpool. Nothing is clear about this group yet.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on September 16, 2022, 11:34:25 PM

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I don't agree with you about Ajax, they played great against Liverpool and confidently beat Rangers. Despite the fact that Napoli started the group stage well, it still doesn't mean anything. Ajax will almost certainly beat Napoli at home and possibly beat Liverpool as well. The group is very complex and everything is very confusing in it. The only thing that can be said for sure is that Rangers will be in last place, although even they sometimes have breakthroughs when they start to play better, but now the Champions League is clearly not their level.

Ajax cannot be underestimated. There are many things that Ajax can do to survive in the group stage. Even though there are Napoli and Liverpool, Ajax opportunities are still open. There are 3 matches left to see who survives in Group A. So, if there are 2 matches remaining, it will be clear which club has qualified. I think that Ajax and the young players currently developing need time, but the Champions League is always unpredictable.

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One thing about predicting UCL is that you always missed it with big teams. Take a look at 2 season ago winners, Chelsea, they started off badly and then come February after changing coach they won it. Same thing happened to Real Madrid last season, they look a lost team in the group stages and even lost to new comers Sheriff, but they proceed to win it miraculously by beaten the best teams in Europe. Man City look sharp now but its just a start to the season and its also a world Cup season. Let's see till after the world Cup

Will history repeat itself, I certainly don't think so. A lot has changed in Chelsea, Chelsea players are been regarded as low-class players that can't reach the round of 16. A surprising turnaround can happen but let it not be too late before they start to adhere to the new coach's football patterns.

Real Madrid will not be that lucky this season. The god of soccer won't favour and be on their side this time around

I agreed with your first half of this review but not with all as Chelsea is surely having some trouble specially after lost of their first Russian owner and now with the change of Coach which is also not good for them on this time with these changes most chances they are going to be had hard challenge to reach into last 16 teams their opening matches are giving all their performance indicators even they have few world-class players, but they are not able to preform as they needed to do this.

Real Madrid is doing good and having good run in their start of this season with La Liga and Champions League both results are giving how strong they are even god of soccer is not with them in this season for title, but I have feeling lady of luck always with them in affair with this Champions League, and they can do something special even having not good chance with this most chances this year Champions League title is going to be with the which is going to win this first time.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on September 16, 2022, 06:51:12 AM

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There are strong teams in the champions league this season but their is this team that always beat big teams but they will not still near the finals. Ajax Amsterdam, Paris Saint Germain and Manchester city. Ajax can win tough clubs in the league and still yet, would be eliminated from either round 8 or quarter finals. Manchester city were once given the chance to lift the UEFEA trophy but they failed after losing to Chelsea in the finals. Concerning PSG, I don't really know their problem and can't just see the reason why they can't win the UEFEA because they have one of the best squad in the league and they always lift the Ligue 1 title with ease. Let's hope one of them lift the trophy this season.

I think, it will be difficult for PSG to win this season trophy because their starting in this UEFA champions competition, showed that they will not go far in this season if their coach continue benching some of the players that know how to attract early goals on the first half. If PSG coach can work on their midfield before their next match, I believe there will be massive change, because their strikers are lacking help from their midfielders. I don't think Ajax can defeat Manchester city in this season, because many things has changed in Manchester city in this season that will make them unbeatable through out this tournament.

This is going to be a long season and with the world cup coming up soon the league fixtures are really tight so it is understandable to see some squad rotations on various occasions to give room to other players and to rest the best ones for tougher games. Sometimes these rotations term to drop the teams performance but in the long run it is important to preserve the best players for the toughest games.

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In my opinion, Ajax has a very small chance to qualify from the Champions League group stage, because in Group A there are Napoli and Liverpool
who are more superior to qualify from the group phase than Ajax. But if Ajax can beat Napoli in the next match, it makes Ajax's chances of qualifying
from the group stage more open. The key is in the Ajax vs Napoli match, Ajax must put out their best game and win the match if serious to qualify
for the next round. But if we look at Napoli's excellent performance by beating Liverpool and Rangers with a fairly large score, I'm sure Napoli will
beat Ajax. Moreover, Ajax is now not as strong as Ajax in the previous season, now Ajax have lost a lot of their star players who moved to other clubs,
then Ajax also lost Erik ten Hag as their coach. It looks like Ajax will fail to qualify from the group stage and will play in the Europa League,
because it is likely that in the end Ajax will be in 3rd position in Group A.

I don't agree with you about Ajax, they played great against Liverpool and confidently beat Rangers. Despite the fact that Napoli started the group stage well, it still doesn't mean anything. Ajax will almost certainly beat Napoli at home and possibly beat Liverpool as well. The group is very complex and everything is very confusing in it. The only thing that can be said for sure is that Rangers will be in last place, although even they sometimes have breakthroughs when they start to play better, but now the Champions League is clearly not their level.

It is not very good to write Ajax off this early time because we perceived that Liverpool and Napoli are bigger names than Ajax. We should not allow names to deceive us in making judgements. Ajax has proven that they are strong and can pull wonders from the group stage.
You can see with me that Liverpool is not finding great games this season and they are still looking for the beat strategy that will favour them but Ajax has already gotten a strategy. What I actually have to say is that Ajax team I watched has the capability to beat any club in their group if they so determine to do. According to the last comment before mine, the only sure and predictable thing is that Rangers will not qualify from the group, apart from that, every other things are open and anyone of the threecubs can grab it.

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Quote from: sayaya17 on September 16, 2022, 08:46:14 PM

In my opinion, Ajax has a very small chance to qualify from the Champions League group stage, because in Group A there are Napoli and Liverpool
who are more superior to qualify from the group phase than Ajax. But if Ajax can beat Napoli in the next match, it makes Ajax's chances of qualifying
from the group stage more open. The key is in the Ajax vs Napoli match, Ajax must put out their best game and win the match if serious to qualify
for the next round. But if we look at Napoli's excellent performance by beating Liverpool and Rangers with a fairly large score, I'm sure Napoli will
beat Ajax. Moreover, Ajax is now not as strong as Ajax in the previous season, now Ajax have lost a lot of their star players who moved to other clubs,
then Ajax also lost Erik ten Hag as their coach. It looks like Ajax will fail to qualify from the group stage and will play in the Europa League,
because it is likely that in the end Ajax will be in 3rd position in Group A.

I don't agree with you about Ajax, they played great against Liverpool and confidently beat Rangers. Despite the fact that Napoli started the group stage well, it still doesn't mean anything. Ajax will almost certainly beat Napoli at home and possibly beat Liverpool as well. The group is very complex and everything is very confusing in it. The only thing that can be said for sure is that Rangers will be in last place, although even they sometimes have breakthroughs when they start to play better, but now the Champions League is clearly not their level.

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