UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season - page 84.

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After Manchester City beat Bayern and Real Madrid by huge scores, there is probably no doubt that they will win the Champions League this year. Inter Milan have also played well in recent matches and got to the final for a reason, but Manchester City are much stronger than them. It will be a very big surprise to me if City can't win. But I don't think Inter can do anything.

already sure that Man City will really win this champions league with the performance of very strong players who can beat Inter Milan in the final round again. to be honest, I actually didn't think that Man City would be this great to be able to get rid of strong teams in the past like Real Madrid.
and I'm sure that Man City will get the champion's league title trophy even though Inter Milan is also very good but for me it can't beat Man City.
if Man City succeeds in getting the title, this will be the first title they have won and will be something new in the champions league.

Manchester city against Real Madrid wasn't a surprise, Manchester City was my favourite to win that very game. In the first leg and second leg Manchester city did better than Real Madrid and I have been taking note of Manchester City performance in other games I see something more in than what I see in Real Madrid.

Indeed, the performance shown by Manchester City was better than that shown by Real Madrid. Now they have done their job well, there is only one job left for them, namely the final match. Against them, Inter Milan is also not in very good shape, so Manchester city continues their favorite status in the final match later. I can say 70/30 for Manchester City.

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on May 20, 2023, 02:11:02 AM

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Manchester City have certainly learned from their mistakes over the past few seasons. And Guardiola has tried to strengthen his team. In the final against Chelsea, I thought Manchester City would win. But unfortunately, they could not beat Chelsea. Inter Milan is not in a strong position now. Their performance is quite erratic. Manchester City has the possibility of winning this year's title.

The UCL trophy has become much easier for Manchester City after defeating Real Madrid. Maybe Manchester City is going to win ucl trophy for the first time under Pep Guardiola against Inter Milan. Ahead of the first leg match against Real Madrid, Pep Guardiola said he is a failed coach for Manchester City if he can't win the UCL trophy this season. Maybe Pep Guardiola had already planned this. The UCL 2022/23 season is a golden opportunity for Manchester City to win the UCL title.

Manchester City has already confirmed the Premier League title. And so now Manchester City's main goal is the Champions League title. In the last two seasons, some minor mistakes kept them from winning the title. Hopefully, Guardiola hasn't forgotten the mistakes of the last two seasons. And he will further refine his team this season. Opponents of Inter Milan are not very strong. But their match strategy is quite good. Manchester City must perform very carefully if they want to win.

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I'll be happy if Guardiola doesn't apply any weird new match tactics against Inter Milan. I believe that Manchester City can beat Inter Milan if they keep up their performance. If Guardiola applies a new match strategy in the final, it is likely to have an adverse effect on the players.

Different teams usually have to adopt different strategies. Because the playing strategy of all teams is not the same. Manchester City's strategy against Real Madrid may not work against Inter Milan. Different strategies need to be adopted depending on the team.

You are right. Different teams require different strategies. But in the last two seasons, Manchester City lost against Chelsea and Madrid due to poor tactics. I don't want to see the same thing again. This season I want to see Manchester City as the champions.

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Quote from: Docnaster on May 20, 2023, 09:03:22 AM

No matter the kind of analysis and statistics you might bring in in the Champions League finals between Manchester City and Inter Milan.
Everyone knows very well that city is a better club than Inter Milan. Even Inter themselves knows about this. It is not all about the seasons success so far. In fact, I don't think that there is any club that will be more successful that Manchester City this season. The English Premier League is 90% done, The champions league is almost done and they are in the finals of the English Premier League FA Cup. So what are you talking about?

Read my post once again mate, you're just saying if I'm Inter fan, but I didn't even saying Inter has an edge against Manchester City.

As long as there's no official announcement of the champion in Premier League, there's still a chance other club might overtake Manchester City. Serie A is the example where Juventus was previously got points deduction, it's already impossible for them to qualify Europa or Champions league in the next season. But after few months Juventus able to recover the 15 points deduction and now they will play in the next Champions League

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Haaland's being ineffective in both legs of the matchup against Real Madrid was a truth. However I don't want to be cruel about him in general of course. Because he has had an incredible season so far and no doubt he has reached way beyond the expectations from him for this season. Besides even though Haaland's not scoring or making assists Manchester City still did an amazing work in the second leg to finish the incomplete job.

This was really accurate regarding Haaland in their semifinal match against Real Madrid, but as you noted, he's done so much this season and brought his club so far to be criticized on such a little talk to be neglected. Sometimes a player's mere presence in a match is enough to terrify the opposing players; he does not need to be in peak form or contribute significantly to the match.

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The only thing they need to do from now on is to not belittle Inter in the finale. Inter are no inexperienced team in the Champions League. They have really good memories here indeed. Maybe there is still a huge player quality difference between two teams now but this still doesn't guarantee anything. For not repeating the same thing in another finale Manchester City need to play completely concentrated on it. They should be winning the title finally then.

After a successful season, Manchester City has earned this opportunity. Inter Milan are not a little side to be underestimated, but there is a significant difference in their style of play and player quality, as you have stated. We all know that the better odds are on Manchester City to win. However, football is unpredictable, and anything can happen, so both sides must be at their best to have a chance of winning the final.

There is nothing to underestimate Inter Milan even though Manchester City are in top form. I am very sure that Manchester City will win the title because they have beaten the likes of Real Madrid so well that Inter Milan will not be a strong opponent.

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Quote from: CLS63 on May 20, 2023, 05:26:20 PM

Haaland's being ineffective in both legs of the matchup against Real Madrid was a truth. However I don't want to be cruel about him in general of course. Because he has had an incredible season so far and no doubt he has reached way beyond the expectations from him for this season. Besides even though Haaland's not scoring or making assists Manchester City still did an amazing work in the second leg to finish the incomplete job.

This was really accurate regarding Haaland in their semifinal match against Real Madrid, but as you noted, he's done so much this season and brought his club so far to be criticized on such a little talk to be neglected. Sometimes a player's mere presence in a match is enough to terrify the opposing players; he does not need to be in peak form or contribute significantly to the match.

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The only thing they need to do from now on is to not belittle Inter in the finale. Inter are no inexperienced team in the Champions League. They have really good memories here indeed. Maybe there is still a huge player quality difference between two teams now but this still doesn't guarantee anything. For not repeating the same thing in another finale Manchester City need to play completely concentrated on it. They should be winning the title finally then.

After a successful season, Manchester City has earned this opportunity. Inter Milan are not a little side to be underestimated, but there is a significant difference in their style of play and player quality, as you have stated. We all know that the better odds are on Manchester City to win. However, football is unpredictable, and anything can happen, so both sides must be at their best to have a chance of winning the final.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 20, 2023, 05:50:09 PM

I really don't expect to see Inter Milan winning this game because in my idea a team like Inter Milan to be in the final match and racing for the champions league title is a great achievement considering the performance they had during this season. Also, Manchester City is in good form to easily beat a team like Inter Milan.

I guess if it's not only you but anyone will be looking at the statistic first yet, city fans shall not be putting intermilan as underrated team. That reminds me how city fans were underestimating chealsea but it was losing in the final against chelsea.
City fans shall have always put respects to the opponent. it's caused by manchester city has not yet faced with the new form of intermilan right now. Simeone inzaghi has become the guy who was always making intermilan to be even stronger.

He will be a good rival for pep in the final. I guess that if city will be getting many parties, blame the club if it will not be able to win UCL this season. Intermilan is still having lukaku which is as strong as haaland and lautaro martinez which is also as good as KDB.
No reason to mocking intermilan as a weak club at this moment. Let's wait and see who will be winning the game.

The final of UCL gonna be a very hyped match as it will make italian club to fight with england club

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Quote from: shogun47 on May 20, 2023, 05:59:23 PM

With Haaland you have another option, which is cross balls. That wasn't so popular for Manchester City because they didn't have this striker with superior physique. Now they do and he is good at almost everything. Maybe one small weakness he has is the one vs. one dribbling attacks. I wouldn't say his technique is bad only because it looks a bit stiff sometimes, but he is not the high speed dribble guy who is taking opponents one on one all the time.

When facing Madrid in the second leg and early in the first half this scheme has been shown and is actually still quite effective, it's just that Courtois was still able to make a brilliant save for the 2 opportunities that Haaland created.
Currently their conditions can still be the same. with Silva or Mahrez on the side of the field and of course Grealish on the other side I think this scheme will still be effective. On the other hand, don't forget KDB's classy passes from the middle of the pitch because his options can become overwhelming because when that scheme doesn't work he can create chances with his powerful shots.

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After Manchester City beat Bayern and Real Madrid by huge scores, there is probably no doubt that they will win the Champions League this year. Inter Milan have also played well in recent matches and got to the final for a reason, but Manchester City are much stronger than them. It will be a very big surprise to me if City can't win. But I don't think Inter can do anything.

already sure that Man City will really win this champions league with the performance of very strong players who can beat Inter Milan in the final round again. to be honest, I actually didn't think that Man City would be this great to be able to get rid of strong teams in the past like Real Madrid.
and I'm sure that Man City will get the champion's league title trophy even though Inter Milan is also very good but for me it can't beat Man City.
if Man City succeeds in getting the title, this will be the first title they have won and will be something new in the champions league.

Manchester city against Real Madrid wasn't a surprise, Manchester City was my favourite to win that very game. In the first leg and second leg Manchester city did better than Real Madrid and I have been taking note of Manchester City performance in other games I see something more in than what I see in Real Madrid.

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Quote from: hahay on May 20, 2023, 09:21:36 AM

Haaland has a tall and strong body, and that way it will make it easy for Haaland to win the duel. So, I personally don't see whether or not Haaland is suitable to play at Manchester City, because after all every player will try to adapt and that way, the player will get the right gameplay as instructed by the coach.

But apart from that, I just don't think Pep Guardiola didn't apply maximum gameplay in the first leg, because the draw in the first leg makes us have a perspective on Real Madrid, which at least still has a chance to win. But the truth is, Manchester City can beat Real Madrid by a terrific score in the decider to qualify for the final in the second leg.

In the case of Haaland the answer is quite easy and obvious and doesn't need a lot of thinking and analysis. If a player breaks goal scorer records in the Premier League, there is no need to discuss whether he fits into the team and whether it works out. The numbers speak for themselves. But there is still a strategic element that changes in the game of Manchester City when you play with Haaland instead of another creative player filling the center forward position.

With Haaland you have another option, which is cross balls. That wasn't so popular for Manchester City because they didn't have this striker with superior physique. Now they do and he is good at almost everything. Maybe one small weakness he has is the one vs. one dribbling attacks. I wouldn't say his technique is bad only because it looks a bit stiff sometimes, but he is not the high speed dribble guy who is taking opponents one on one all the time.

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We thought the same when Manchester City played their first Champions League final against Chelsea a few years ago. We all know very well how that match ended, even though Manchester City was a big favorite in the bookies.
The final of the Champions League is always a very difficult game, which is very difficult to play, and the game can very easily go in an unwanted direction.
Inter showed that they play very well and organized, especially in defense, and they should not be underestimated.
Of course, Manchester City is a big favorite, but favorites don't always win. The longer the Inter players last without conceding a goal, the greater their chances in the final will be, and the Manchester City players will be more and more nervous and the pressure on them will be increasing.

I hope that history doesn’t repeats itself this season with Inter Milan vs Manchester City in the finals. As much as Manchester City have proven to be a formidable opponent by eliminating one of the best in the history of the competition, it would be a pity to see Inter Milan winning the trophy this season.

I really don't expect to see Inter Milan winning this game because in my idea a team like Inter Milan to be in the final match and racing for the champions league title is a great achievement considering the performance they had during this season. Also, Manchester City is in good form to easily beat a team like Inter Milan.

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Quote from: CLS63 on May 20, 2023, 05:26:20 PM

Haaland's being ineffective in both legs of the matchup against Real Madrid was a truth. However I don't want to be cruel about him in general of course. Because he has had an incredible season so far and no doubt he has reached way beyond the expectations from him for this season. Besides even though Haaland's not scoring or making assists Manchester City still did an amazing work in the second leg to finish the incomplete job.

The only thing they need to do from now on is to not belittle Inter in the finale. Inter are no inexperienced team in the Champions League. They have really good memories here indeed. Maybe there is still a huge player quality difference between two teams now but this still doesn't guarantee anything. For not repeating the same thing in another finale Manchester City need to play completely concentrated on it. They should be winning the title finally then.

Haaland in the first leg of the semi-final did not contribute much to Man City. Because Real Madrid has a reliable defender who can overcome Haaland, namely A. Rüdiger. Haaland couldn't get many chances in the first leg. Even his movements continue to be overshadowed by Real Madrid players. making it difficult to get the ball to Haaland's feet.

In the second leg, Haaland's contribution was even better. and actually behind B. Silva's success in scoring goals is also because the Real Madrid defenders are too busy focusing on the movements of Haaland and De Bruyne. so B.Silva could have more space to score.

Inter Milan cannot be underestimated but Man City should be able to overcome Inter. But because this is football, unexpected results can happen. but I and many people did not expect it.

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Haaland's being ineffective in both legs of the matchup against Real Madrid was a truth. However I don't want to be cruel about him in general of course. Because he has had an incredible season so far and no doubt he has reached way beyond the expectations from him for this season. Besides even though Haaland's not scoring or making assists Manchester City still did an amazing work in the second leg to finish the incomplete job.

The only thing they need to do from now on is to not belittle Inter in the finale. Inter are no inexperienced team in the Champions League. They have really good memories here indeed. Maybe there is still a huge player quality difference between two teams now but this still doesn't guarantee anything. For not repeating the same thing in another finale Manchester City need to play completely concentrated on it. They should be winning the title finally then.

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Quote from: Bananington on May 19, 2023, 04:08:40 PM

Manchester City is very organised this season and no matter how many people may not want them to win, they are team most likely to win the championship. Inter Milan can steal it, .

No doubt. If according to their predictions and their calculated strength, Man City should be able to beat Inter, even though they still have to make high efforts. Because after all, the UCL final is always looked forward to and no one should underestimate one another, because sometimes the results are very surprising on the field. but on the other hand, I believe that Man City is capable of becoming a winner with their well-organized strength, solidity and consistency. Moreover, they are stronger in every way.

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Haaland was ineffective against Real Madrid maybe. But if he performs solidly in the finale it would be a very special and unforgettable night for him. I hope he prepares himself well mentally this time. Because he needs to get better at finishing after this matchup.

The possibility still exists but if Inter can adopt some of Madrid's strategies, especially when the marking is strong there then Haaland may not be effective again.
The problem for Manchester City this time is not only Haaland because indeed when he forces him it doesn't go well, another scheme about several players in the midfield also having high productivity to score goals for Manchester City.

I do not understand why anyone will say that Haaland was in effective in Manchester City match.
How do you define in effectiveness? Even if Haaland goes straight match without scoring a goal, it does not mean that he is ineffective. Only his presence in the box of the opposition will give the opposition very high pressure, not to be stable and this will give other players such as Guodugun and Marehz and others opportunity to take advantage. Like the first match between Manchester City and Real Madrid, Rudiger was able to mark Haaland out but that created opportunity for Kelvin to take a beautiful shot.

Even if what you say is true but the fact that when he was locked up did become a problem.
The advantage of Manchester City is that they have a very good squad advantage especially in scoring goals because not only are the strikers good at finishing but some midfielders are also very good at doing that but on the other hand the conditions are when they are not good at doing that for the attack so when Haaland being locked in is a problem, because of course a striker's main job is not to be a distraction but to create goals in the game.

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Even if that is the biggest possibility but on the other hand of course we cannot underestimate Inter in this competition.
Their condition is still unpredictable because they are indeed in the final with a big fight.
Right now though Manchester City is likely to get the trophy but this will not be easy for them especially this is the final match.

If the final was played with two legs I would give an even greater edge to Manchester city as this could give them the chance to make a few mistakes and have the opportunity to recover, but everything is going to be settled in a single match, meaning that every single detail matters and can make a difference during the match, Inter players know this so I will not be surprised if they approached this game with the idea of defending as well as they can and then try to resolve this game with a single score.

Therefore, when indeed in this case Pep wants to really carry out his ambition that always runs aground in the Champions League, then they must continue to work harder than now even though their current condition is good.
The final is still long and that should be maximized well, especially in the care of the fitness of the players, lest any unwanted things happen considering such conditions for the players are still risky when they continue to be pushed.

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Quote from: Docnaster on May 19, 2023, 05:48:23 PM

Quote from: Rengga Jati on May 19, 2023, 04:53:15 PM

Yes, seen from various sides, Man City in the media competition is indeed superior in many ways.

Undoubtedly, Manchester City is the best team in the semi finals of this season's UEFA Champions League competition. Erling Haaland who has been banging goals for fun this season was unable to score in the two legged encounter and that's because Madrid defenders where very much careful with him coupled with his failure to convert the few chances .

Yeah, exactly.
We are here ralking based on the data and statistic of each club squad performance and strength. Although on the field, everthing suprisingly may happen. But once more, if compared to how each club players and how their performance consistency so far in all leagues, Man City has superior factors than Inter. As long as Man City can play their best performance as usual, not underestimating Inter, and also can optiize ever chance they have, indeed, they can be the winner of UCL this season.

For Inter, this will be tough final. They have the experience, but they must work harder and harder in every line to face Man City. But whatever the result, Inter really has great achievement being in the final.

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Quote from: rendravolt on May 20, 2023, 09:39:41 AM

Even though I really favor Manchester City to be able to win the Champions League title this season, I also had the same feeling that Inter would reverse that advantage. We know that Inter's experience is also not to be taken lightly for this competition, they have won 3 Champions League titles so far and that is a pretty good collection of trophies for one of the big Italian teams.

Inter last won the champions league title back in 2010, at that time the coach was Jose Mourinho and that was over a decade ago they haven't won it yet. I think Manchester City can have an amazing squad this season but Inter have history in this competition and it is a prestige for Inter to be able to win this title again.

Right now, analysis and statics are completely favoring Manchester City with their performance is also at the top just because of this we have them in three competitions and mostly peoples are predicting they can win from 3 to 5 titles in this season but for me, we can have upsets as well because things are never been easy in Champions League last year we have Real Madrid from nowhere, and now we have Inter even they are not near to Manchester City, but their current form is surely amazing as they are performing in both competitions they can steal the show.

Inter after 13 years having chance for increasing their tally of trophies from 3 to 4 and Manchester City which is going to win first time can feel pressure which could be dangerous for them and their hopes for the first title.

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Quote from: Docnaster on May 20, 2023, 09:03:22 AM

No matter the kind of analysis and statistics you might bring in in the Champions League finals between Manchester City and Inter Milan.
Everyone knows very well that city is a better club than Inter Milan. Even Inter themselves knows about this. It is not all about the seasons success so far. In fact, I don't think that there is any club that will be more successful that Manchester City this season. The English Premier League is 90% done, The champions league is almost done and they are in the finals of the English Premier League FA Cup. So what are you talking about?

No doubt with Manchester City tactic and how smart their player until success lead to final stage with impressive performance winning bigger score from Bayern Munich on quarter final and Real Madrid on semifinal stage. Manchester City is typical team with ball possession controlling, always try with patience when build up attacking and seems not hurry up how to create attempt.

But difference with Inter Milan games scheme, actually its not easy for predicting Manchester City will winning without any fighting from Inter, actually with some myth about Manchester City and Pep Guardiola failure how to get Champion League tittle. Indeed Manchester City have been success in Primer League and can't guarantee with Champion League will be easy for them.

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Quote from: Dzwaafu11 on May 20, 2023, 03:29:47 AM

The last game I know Manchester City won't allowed real Madrid to score my own reason is because there in home you can see that Manchester City have it in mind that they want the championship this season and they have been playing well that is why they didn't give Madrid any chance to score. Manchester City played half field with Real Madrid in the semi final second leg; they don't even give Real Madrid any opportunity of getting testing there goalkeeper with some short.
I was shocked when Real Madrid allowed Manchester City to win by a large margin by scoring 4-0 against them, despite the fact that Manchester City was at home and these is a horrible history for real Madrid.

I think it is as much about what happened with the offense as it was about defense as well. I mean we are talking about a team that constantly attacked, City constantly had the ball and that mean that Real didn't really had that much chance to attack to begin with which caused them to have some doubts about what's going on.

This is why I am pretty sure that it is not going to be that much of a difference for Real to not score, because in the end City offense was so much that they scored 4 goals, if City defended even worse, would Real be capable of scoring 5 goals? Of course not, not when City had the ball attacking this much, so it wasn't really much about their defense but their offense being a lot better this game than any other game all season long.

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Quote from: rendravolt on May 20, 2023, 11:57:08 AM

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At least haaland was making all of madrid defenders were paying their attention to him. Haaland has been missing some golden opportunities but if you were watching how all of defenders from real madrid put their focus into the haaland.
It's not the same like the first leg when any defenders of real madrid have their own target to be marked during the match. Haaland is always become a threat for its opponent but when it will be facing intermilan. I think that intermilan is also having lukaku which has same capabilities as haaland as forward.

What Haaland has done will definitely be the main focus for Real Madrid's defense in yesterday's second leg and it's clear the Real Madrid defense doesn't realize that there is a midfielder who really stands out like Bernardo Silva who often stabs at goal and scores goals. Maybe it's time for Real Madrid to start building a new squad for next season's champions league and their main target if they meet Manchester City again is to take revenge. Inter do have Lukaku who has a high status like Haaland, it's just that in my opinion Haaland is still quite superior in terms of aggressiveness, speed and physical contact. Haaland is more troublesome in my opinion than Lukaku.

Now it's time to bring fresh players and having changes into Real Madrid because things are not going good after winning double in last season they completely outclass in this season with defence were completely not good, and they were focusing on Haaland and have no strategy for controlling other players which create problems, and they were not able to handle this all.

If we are going to compare these two players then surely things are going into Haaland favor because of his age and aggression is surely giving him advantage, but Lukaku is also a good player even his career is having too many injuries but still he can do good things for his team Inter.

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