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September 21, 2023, 02:47:28 PM
Regarding the game between Real Madrid and Union Berlin, I can say this German team had a good performance while they were playing against a strong team like Real Madrid good superstar players they bought in this summer. I thought Union Berlin would lose the game even sooner than this.
Even the coach of Union Belin, Urs Fischer was happy to see this good performance from his team and he said that at the conference after the game even faster losing the game.


More than just the win they deserved, Real Madrid played brilliantly both in attack and defence, they were really ahead of Union Berlin and had a lot of chances although they also almost had the bad luck of not being able to score. It wasn't until extra time that they managed to score a goal. OK, the important thing is the win and the three points.

From this match it can be seen that Union Berlin is indeed a solid team. Full of surprises from last season, they managed to enter the UCL League and now they have managed to make Real Madrid win with great difficulty. I think they deserve to be satisfied with what they got even though they lost. Union Berlin is a dark horse team from the German League representatives that is worth considering.
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September 21, 2023, 02:36:01 PM
Galatasaray yesterday made me jump up from my chair and scream for them as I was really happy to see Galatasary finally having at least a decent game in UCL and obtaining 1 deserved point because frankly , Galata should have won yesterday.

Galatasaray had 6 clear chances to score in the first half. Copenhagen had only 1 scoring chance in the first half and it was a goal. Luck was really not on Galatasaray's side in this match. Of course, it would be wrong to explain everything with luck. Ziyech and Zaha weren't fully ready yet, so we couldn't take full advantage of them. Also, when we look at the running distance statistics, we see that Copenhagen ran more than us. Moreover, Copenhagen played the last 20 minutes with 10 men. I believe we can finish 3rd in this group but we will face a tough test in Denmark.

Yes but this game could have very well gone wrong. I guess when it was the 80th minute, every player and fan in the stadium would have immediately agreed to a draw because nobody could expect that double punch right before the end of the game. Now of course when they scored the equalizer everyone in the stadium was hoping for that final lucky punch to turn that game around, but that wouldn't have been fair, would it? Tongue I think a team that is the outsider and can keep a clean sheet for so long also deserves to take home at least something. It can never be only luck if you successfully defend the goal for almost 90 minutes. There is definitely passion and effort as well like the game Real Madrid vs. Union Berlin, too. Kopenhagen was hoping for more of course.
I actually thought it was the red card that caused the whole game changer for Galatasaray because the opposite team actually played very well and also going two goals wasn't just luck as they perfectly played and calculated their tactics very well and I believe if not the red card the game would have been a totally different results because all Galatasaray could have done was if they can manage an equalizer goal.
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September 21, 2023, 02:27:53 PM
Last night was like a nightmare for Galatasaray fans. Galatasaray couldn't make a good start to the Group Stage of the UEFA Champions League. Galatasaray pulled draw from this match in the last minutes of the match. Both Boey's goal and performance were spectacular last night. Next October, Manchester United will play at home against Galatasaray.
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September 21, 2023, 02:24:39 PM
I couldn't understand Benfica's defeat at home.Of course, an early red card and a penalty goal played a role in the defeat.Salzburg started the match fast and won a penalty in minute 3, but they couldn't take advantage of it. About 10 minutes later they won another penalty and with their opponents down to 10 men, they managed to take the lead with an early goal.They were relieved to increase the difference to 2 right at the beginning of the second half.Benfica, who continued the match with 10 men, kept the pressure on again and were the more willing side in terms of possession, but the early 10 men perhaps ruined the whole plan.The only result I was surprised by in the Champions League was definitely this match.
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September 21, 2023, 02:09:59 PM
Regarding the game between Real Madrid and Union Berlin, I can say this German team had a good performance while they were playing against a strong team like Real Madrid good superstar players they bought in this summer. I thought Union Berlin would lose the game even sooner than this.
Even the coach of Union Belin, Urs Fischer was happy to see this good performance from his team and he said that at the conference after the game even faster losing the game.


Union Berlin are trying thus season, they might win their next game because they're very much in shape, having good squad and effective defensive game. Berlin performance was outstanding and shocking, they surprise everyone when they have the courage to play on the same level with Real Madrid, hoping for a draw point until Jude Bellingham made the difference with late goal grasping with chants of victory. Carlo Ancelotti have to work on his sqaud because they certainly cannot continue to struggle in games, it's time for them to start recording three points.
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September 21, 2023, 02:07:52 PM
Considering the result of yesterday's match, it seems like I'm too early to say that yeah Manchester United performance might return to good under Ten Hag leadership, it just takes a time for the new players to adaptation very well. Actually, last season I admired Ten Hag him can bring Manchester United to get tickets UCL, but in this new season red devils performance is not that good, that's maybe because from side new players still don't have good chemistry at there. After all, indeed playing against Bayern Munich is not an easy job.

I believe that ten Haag was super angry after the game against Bayern Munich and I can understand him. It was known that Manchester United wouldn't get a dozen of great chances against Bayern and that they would need a solid and reliable defense to then strike back and see what's possible during the game, but when they got those two goals against them I think hardly any team would be able to fully suppress the negative emotions and still try to win the game. That's what they actually did and Manchester United played much better than the last few games, but they couldn't afford that many goals against them. I would like to know the words that ten Haag chose during halftime and after the game.
Whether that happens because the players cannot carry out the instructions given by the coach, or indeed the strategy carried out by Ten Hag is not suitable for the composition of the players he has. I also thought the same thing about Ten Hag last season, who could bring Manchester United to win tickets to go to the Champions League, but I did not see a significant improvement from what Manchester United showed at this time. Maybe there is a problem within them that we don't know about, so in terms of chemistry they don't look good. I can't help but say that chemistry is one of the important factors to be able to execute a strategy well.
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September 21, 2023, 01:40:07 PM
Considering the result of yesterday's match, it seems like I'm too early to say that yeah Manchester United performance might return to good under Ten Hag leadership, it just takes a time for the new players to adaptation very well. Actually, last season I admired Ten Hag him can bring Manchester United to get tickets UCL, but in this new season red devils performance is not that good, that's maybe because from side new players still don't have good chemistry at there. After all, indeed playing against Bayern Munich is not an easy job.

I believe that ten Haag was super angry after the game against Bayern Munich and I can understand him. It was known that Manchester United wouldn't get a dozen of great chances against Bayern and that they would need a solid and reliable defense to then strike back and see what's possible during the game, but when they got those two goals against them I think hardly any team would be able to fully suppress the negative emotions and still try to win the game. That's what they actually did and Manchester United played much better than the last few games, but they couldn't afford that many goals against them. I would like to know the words that ten Haag chose during halftime and after the game.
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September 21, 2023, 01:36:41 PM
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If Ten Hag is the problem, why did man Utd go through those lengths to get him and their fans were super convinced about his methodologies? My opinion is that Man Utd should stick with ten hag a bit longer. Too much instability in a team makes it harder for players to adapt to ever-changing tactics and plays. I feel this is the reason why Chelsea is struggling as well because they're changing coaches like Man Utd and giving little time for their very-rich squads  to mature.  

I'm all for Ten hag managerial position continuation.
Building a squad requires time and that is what Erik Ten Hag needs to bring back Manchester United glorious era, whether in the EPL or UCL. From the results of the match, of course Manchester United played quite well and they were even able to balance Bayern Munich game at the Allianz Arena. Well, their efforts were not successful because Manchester United moved slowly in their playing tempo in this match because they increased their aggressiveness when the match was almost over. However, Erik Ten Hag must take several actions quickly to improve their weaknesses in the upcoming match.

I even saw that Bayern Munich almost lost their concentration after Manchester United were able to score the third goal through Casemiro but the running out of time meant they had to give up at the end of the match with a score of 4-3. Apart from that, Erik Ten Hag position is still quite safe at Manchester United. So, to return to winning ways, the Manchester United squad must really improve their performance in the upcoming match.
Considering the result of yesterday's match, it seems like I'm too early to say that yeah Manchester United performance might return to good under Ten Hag leadership, it just takes a time for the new players to adaptation very well. Actually, last season I admired Ten Hag him can bring Manchester United to get tickets UCL, but in this new season red devils performance is not that good, that's maybe because from side new players still don't have good chemistry at there. After all, indeed playing against Bayern Munich is not an easy job.
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September 21, 2023, 01:29:06 PM
The first round of the Champions League group stages has finished. There were 48 goals scored in all of these first round matches, while only Barcelona, ​​Bayern Munich and Arsenal were able to score 4 goals or more. Barcelona and Arsenal managed to win their respective matches without conceding (clean sheet), but Bayern Munich conceded 3 goals when they beat Manchester United 4-3.

The second round will be played on 3 to 4 October, but I can't really find any interesting matches apart from Dortmund vs Milan, Newcastle vs PSG and Napoli vs Real Madrid. PSG, Real Madrid and Milan are the favorites in the match, but I think the match is difficult to predict.
Based on all UEFA Champion League first round matches seems Bayern Munich vs Manchester United are favorite match because scored 7 goals than other match can't reach above 7 goals. Seems excited with first round Champion League matches goals productive success scored 48 goals from 16 matches. Arsenal, Bayern Munich and Barcelona managed top teams who scored above 4 goals in the first Champion League matches and waiting second round will third teams on the top performance and continue with winning trend?

I watched with Real Madrid vs Union Berlin match and almost left after 90 minutes Madrid difficult for scoring goals before Jude Bellingham score in additional time.

Regarding the game between Real Madrid and Union Berlin, I can say this German team had a good performance while they were playing against a strong team like Real Madrid good superstar players they bought in this summer. I thought Union Berlin would lose the game even sooner than this.
Even the coach of Union Belin, Urs Fischer was happy to see this good performance from his team and he said that at the conference after the game even faster losing the game.

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September 21, 2023, 01:15:55 PM
That's true if the difference in odds isn't too unequal, but if the odds are like in the image I provided in the previous response? Of course the case study you gave is no longer relevant, it's clear that Borussia Dortmund are really the favorites there, they only lost well in the away match against PSG, making them seem like a weak team when facing AC Milan.

On the site where I place my bets, Duelbits, the odds are very similar to the ones you posted, with 2.19 for Borussia, 3.55 for a draw and 3.10 for Milan
I think the odds are very good for anyone who wants to bet. Especially for those who want to bet on Milan, 3.10 is very good

Coming back to your post, and it's my opinion, Borussia are favorite by the home factor in this particular future match. When it comes to the second leg, I think Milan will become the favorites, with the odds almost the same. And if it was on a neutral place I think the two teams would be tied, I don't see one team better than the other, I think the levels are quite similar at the moment

What's your personal opinion? Do Borussia have a better team than Milan regardless of whether they play at home or not?
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September 21, 2023, 12:58:30 PM
PSV can take some points against Sevilla or Lens, but I'm sure they won't manage to take any points against Arsenal. PSV can take advantage of the home game to play better against their visitors, they should be favored.

The second match in the group stage will take place in early October, Sevilla is the opponent. PSV, playing at home, will certainly take advantage of home advantage to win, but if Sevilla is able to put up a good fight then both teams will have difficulty winning the match. The possibility is may with PSV, but no one knows for sure what will happen.
Definitely PSV will secure a point from Sevilla or Lens but I think they stand a better chance with Lens as Seville looks like a better team as compared to Lens both in the UCL and their local league, Lens don't seem to have what it takes to take on PSV, Arsenal was so much of a strong team over PSV so they couldn't stand a chance but I don't see that with Lens.

Home advantage is also something PSV will not fail to utilize over Sevilla in their next UCL game. It will be the first time both team are meeting in the UCL this season, Sevilla had played 5 league games in the Spanish league where they have lost 3 won 1 and drew . Going by this record they don't look sound enough as a contender to PSV as PSV have better statistical results.

Lens have a worse record statistically, they have played five league game so far in the french league, they lost all three and drew the remaining two, they are yet to record a single win, I wonder how they will cope in the champions league where the pressure is even higher as compared to their local league. PSV is definitely going to take advantage of Lens to secure points in the champions league.
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September 21, 2023, 12:57:15 PM
Galatasaray yesterday made me jump up from my chair and scream for them as I was really happy to see Galatasary finally having at least a decent game in UCL and obtaining 1 deserved point because frankly , Galata should have won yesterday.

Galatasaray had 6 clear chances to score in the first half. Copenhagen had only 1 scoring chance in the first half and it was a goal. Luck was really not on Galatasaray's side in this match. Of course, it would be wrong to explain everything with luck. Ziyech and Zaha weren't fully ready yet, so we couldn't take full advantage of them. Also, when we look at the running distance statistics, we see that Copenhagen ran more than us. Moreover, Copenhagen played the last 20 minutes with 10 men. I believe we can finish 3rd in this group but we will face a tough test in Denmark.

Yes but this game could have very well gone wrong. I guess when it was the 80th minute, every player and fan in the stadium would have immediately agreed to a draw because nobody could expect that double punch right before the end of the game. Now of course when they scored the equalizer everyone in the stadium was hoping for that final lucky punch to turn that game around, but that wouldn't have been fair, would it? Tongue I think a team that is the outsider and can keep a clean sheet for so long also deserves to take home at least something. It can never be only luck if you successfully defend the goal for almost 90 minutes. There is definitely passion and effort as well like the game Real Madrid vs. Union Berlin, too. Kopenhagen was hoping for more of course.
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September 21, 2023, 12:57:04 PM
Arsenal vs PSV today in the UEFA Champions League match, Arsenal team won the match by scoring 4 goals. On the other hand, the performance of PSV team players was bad for which PSV team could not score any goals. I was waiting to see a lot of hard fighting between the two teams, but it did not happen for PSV team.  For a bad game. Arsenal team played very well from start to finish. B. Saka scored the first goal in 8 minutes. L.  Trossard scored the 2nd goal in 20 minutes. And G. Jesus scored the 3rd goal in 38 minutes. Arsenal team was leading by 3 goals before halftime. After halftime Arsenal team won by 4 goals in total.

Arsenal is still on its prime at this moment. There is no doubt if the club could win the game with huge scores against PSV. I remember when PSG was beating arsenal on its home.
We may also see PSV to play better when arsenal must also play away in the next matches day.

I remember the last head to head between arsenal and PSV was 1-1.

Arsenal and PSV won the game at their home. It is another challenge for arsenal to beat PSV away soon to create a record over PSV.
Im very happy i was picking arsenal to win the game. Playing at home became the main reason to pick the gunner.

Lens has been awating to be the next opponent for arsenal. I expect arsenal can beat it easily. We do know that how bad lens in league 1 right now.

Home matches is always an advantage for teams but even if you are playing home matches as an away team, it's still better to struggle to win because losing to the home boys makes you weak and less advantage in the next match, if in the second round of the away match conceded goal in their second goal, it will be hard to come out of that situation, there is no two way about that. For instance, I know that Manchester United were ridicule yesterday  in their first group stage with Bayern Munich but equalizing 3 goals out of the 4 they conceded was excellent in my opinion, only few teams have that kind of come back.


Arsenal against PSV yesterday points weakness of PSV, Arsenal playing in Emirates might be advantage to them but you can't tell me otherwise that on a normal ground that PSV was going to beat Arsenal, even in a neutral stadium, if it was that form PSV was going to use to play Arsenal, they will not come close to what Arsenal really did yesterday. You should have check the formation, all the 3 forwards had goal for Arsenal yesterday, this only happen in rare occasion; PSV defense was also weak because first 3 goals were scored in the first half, happened in rare occasions in the Champions League, Arsenal is bless in their current form I must tell you.
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September 21, 2023, 12:36:39 PM
Man Utd hasn't improved yet if judging by their yesterday match against Bayern Munich was used as a reference that is absolutely untrue, Onana made some brilliant saves in that match if not Man Utd would have lost the match with more goals, though Onana after the match admitted that his error was responsible for the team defeat, even with the narrow defeat I think Bayern Munich were not in their best, however Onana hasn't made any difference since arrived from Inter Milan he was sole responsible for sending off DeGea on a free transfer because of his ability initiate a buildup from the defense yet he had never achieve a clean sheet in all matches he played for Man Utd.

I agree. Bayern Munich dominated the game yesterday and I would say United were quite lucky to have the number of goals they scored. Aside the goal scored by Casemiro with a header, I don’t think United worked nor planned out the rest of their goals.
Onana did play a huge part in making sure they didn’t concede a lot more than they did. The defense is just as important as the goalkeeper in keeping goals out.
Overall, Bayern Munich really controlled the game. Bayern Muchen's 4th goal was a mistake from the Man United players. The pressing organization was weak, here the midfield and back line were very, very fragile. Man United is also lacking in midfield, lacks consistency and indeed Man United needs experienced midfielders like Sergio Buesquets and Gundogan.

It's a shame that Ambrabat can't be played yet. Maybe if Ambrabat plays, Man United could be active and rely on the midfielder trio like Bruno, Casimiro and Ambrabat and also Mason Mount. Because in the match against Bayer Munich there were too many empty midfielders, Man United's midfielder Eriksen, whose speed was lacking and Bruno, who didn't play well, luckily there was still Cesimiro. If he wasn't there, Man United might have conceded a lot of goals.
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September 21, 2023, 12:22:19 PM
Napoli defeated Braga to a 2-1 victory in yesterday's UCL game, this happens to be their first game in the UCL this season. Lorenzo as assisted by victor osimeh scored the first goal of the game in the first half after which they had a second goal in the second half of the game and Braga got a goal in the second half of the game which brought the send half of the game to end in a draw.

Braga was dominated by Napoli all through the first half of the game and lost the first half to Napoli. Victor osimeh was at his best as usual tho he didn't have a goal to himself but he did assisted, Braga tried resisting some attempt to score them but finally Napoli found their way through to get a goal in the first half, although Braga didn't look like a team that would give Napoli a hard time but the made some attempts

Napoli could be said to be a better team as compared to Braga in the game as they did performed way better than Braga owning the game , untill the second half Braga was more of a defensive team but later managed to secure a goal after cutting down a bit on their defensive tactics and attacked Napoli to be able to get a goal.
This may have been the best match of the evening. Napoli dominated almost the whole match and Osimhen should have scored 2-3 goals in the first half, if he had realized his chances, it was especially frustrating when Osimhen couldn't beat the goalkeeper and score. In general, Napoli created chances for 6-7 goals at least and it would be unfair to lose in such a match, although Braga also tried to defend and Braga also had 2-3 chances and they still earned one goal. It must be a shame for the player who scored an auto-goal in the end of the match. The autogoal is terribly stupid, where he hit is unclear, he stood in the middle of the goal and closed the pass from the players of Napoli as if he was not a Braga player, but a Napoli striker. 
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September 21, 2023, 12:21:13 PM
Everyone has talked about how Onana conceded that goal very terribly and they are right, that goal was his mistake there is no argument there. However, nobody talks about how Bayern attacked a million times after that, and Onana had some great saves here and there as well. To say that it was his mistake would be lying, they had 4 goals scored on them, and plenty more shots that found the goal as well, United defense needs to be responsible for it a lot more.


I wouldn't pin down on that one moment by Onana. Yes it was a bad one from him but have seen even worst ones from De Gea as well. What matters is that Onana from next times avoid such kind of mistakes. United's defense was also poor and their attack was all poor. It didn't felt like they all came prepared against Bayern for their CL fixture.

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Onana played in other teams before coming here as well and never had this issue, why do we think that he started to be a bad keeper suddenly?

United's standards are high everytime as they have very rich history. It's not just Onana. Anyone rated as a very good player if makes mistakes will be viewed differently. It's all about expectations and fans have very high expectations from a United player. I feel it's usually the huge price at which the player was brought playing as a huge factor behind it.
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September 21, 2023, 12:08:54 PM
Galatasaray yesterday made me jump up from my chair and scream for them as I was really happy to see Galatasary finally having at least a decent game in UCL and obtaining 1 deserved point because frankly , Galata should have won yesterday.

Galatasaray had 6 clear chances to score in the first half. Copenhagen had only 1 scoring chance in the first half and it was a goal. Luck was really not on Galatasaray's side in this match. Of course, it would be wrong to explain everything with luck. Ziyech and Zaha weren't fully ready yet, so we couldn't take full advantage of them. Also, when we look at the running distance statistics, we see that Copenhagen ran more than us. Moreover, Copenhagen played the last 20 minutes with 10 men. I believe we can finish 3rd in this group but we will face a tough test in Denmark.
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September 21, 2023, 12:04:53 PM
Everyone has talked about how Onana conceded that goal very terribly and they are right, that goal was his mistake there is no argument there. However, nobody talks about how Bayern attacked a million times after that, and Onana had some great saves here and there as well. To say that it was his mistake would be lying, they had 4 goals scored on them, and plenty more shots that found the goal as well, United defense needs to be responsible for it a lot more.

If you shoot 10+ shots on goal a game, scoring 4 of them wouldn't be impossible, that's still a good rate for a goalkeeper. Onana played in other teams before coming here as well and never had this issue, why do we think that he started to be a bad keeper suddenly?
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September 21, 2023, 11:57:42 AM
Yes, Arsenal play very well at home, but PSV are still not favourites in this game, even when Arsenal play away, it seems to me that PSV will not be able to win. Probably Arsenal have no rivals in the group and they are guaranteed to take the first place.
Arsenal is indeed the favorite in the group, and it is not easy for other teams to beat Arsenal. Arsenal was lucky enough to get an easy group. they can be sure to qualify for the next round.
Compared to Group F, I think it will be very difficult for each team to compete for 2 tickets to qualify for the next round. Group B will be very comfortable for Arsenal. There is only 1 team left to accompany Arsenal, maybe Sevilla or Lens. both are equally strong I think. they showed a draw which I felt was beyond predictions. Sevilla performed quite well. very different from the performance shown in La Liga.
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September 21, 2023, 11:50:22 AM
Arsenal and PSV won the game at their home. It is another challenge for arsenal to beat PSV away soon to create a record over PSV.
Im very happy i was picking arsenal to win the game. Playing at home became the main reason to pick the gunner.
Arsenal will be able to win PSV again away for the record because Arsenal was the better team, they won the game well and did not have any goals scored against them and it is not just because they played at their stadium. If the game had been in the stadium of PSV, they would still have not won the game against Arsenal that play well. Arsenal have shown that they are ready to try to win the champions league this season. Next to Manchester City, Arsenal is the next team that have represented the English premier league well, Newcastle did better than Manchester United.
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