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Quote from: KTChampions on September 22, 2023, 01:23:39 PM

It's funny to read multi-page discussions about how Real Madrid lacks a strong striker (I pretty much agree with this by the way). I just remember the era of Ronaldo and how he was criticized “for empty-net goals”, “he’s just a finisher”, etc. That is, he was literally criticized for doing his job Grin

For some reason, it turns out that if a team does not have a good finisher, then all the work of the midfield can often be useless.
But as for Real this season, I think with Vinicius on the field and Bellingham, the available strikers will be enough. The main thing is that injuries do not affect the squad that Ancelotti has assembled.

I don't follow the events in the Spanish championship much, but lately by sporadically watching some Real Madrid matches you can notice a noticeable drop in the quality of their attack, I believe that a strong striker like Kane would be of great use to Real Madrid, Vinicius and Bellingham, however strong they are not they have the qualities of a real striker, Ancelotti must also hope that serious injuries do not occur, since he would not have much choice in how to replace them

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 22, 2023, 01:23:39 PM

It's funny to read multi-page discussions about how Real Madrid lacks a strong striker (I pretty much agree with this by the way). I just remember the era of Ronaldo and how he was criticized “for empty-net goals”, “he’s just a finisher”, etc. That is, he was literally criticized for doing his job Grin

For some reason, it turns out that if a team does not have a good finisher, then all the work of the midfield can often be useless.
But as for Real this season, I think with Vinicius on the field and Bellingham, the available strikers will be enough. The main thing is that injuries do not affect the squad that Ancelotti has assembled.

Honestly I was worried about Real Madrid's performance for this season before it started. Because I thought they would surely bring a striker such as Vlahovic to have a more reliable attacking line. But they didn't and I had doubts about their season. However the current look of them is way different than I imagined.

Bellingham is really playing like not only a midfielder but also a striker right now. He is already top scorer in the squad. Even in Vinicius' presence in the lineup Bellingham is coming one step forward thanks to his high effort.

Because of this situation I also started to think Vinicius - Rodrygo (or Joselu) duo in the attacking line will be good enough.

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It's funny to read multi-page discussions about how Real Madrid lacks a strong striker (I pretty much agree with this by the way). I just remember the era of Ronaldo and how he was criticized “for empty-net goals”, “he’s just a finisher”, etc. That is, he was literally criticized for doing his job Grin

For some reason, it turns out that if a team does not have a good finisher, then all the work of the midfield can often be useless.
But as for Real this season, I think with Vinicius on the field and Bellingham, the available strikers will be enough. The main thing is that injuries do not affect the squad that Ancelotti has assembled.

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Quote from: Joca97 on September 22, 2023, 10:52:55 AM

Real Madrid without a top striker like Benzema or someone simillar cannot win anything big honesty. Last few games Real Madrid is barely winning the matches in the last minutes and it is just a matter of time when their luck runs out. They need a superstar really soon and a good bench.

Carlo Ancelotti has repeatedly said that he is happy with the players he has in his squad, i'm pretty sure the club has analysed the situation and they believe they can achieve quite a lot with the players they have already. Mind you that Vinicius Junior is also out injured, when he is back he would get more goals for the team, Joselu is also a pretty decent striker, thus i think Real Madrid have all it takes to be successful this season, and then next summer they'll prolly get Mbappe for free.

After all, you don't equate Real Madrid with a mediocre team because anyway, Real Madrid is a big team and of course Real Madrid will still be fine. Unless, if for example at this moment Real Madrid experiences consecutive bad results, then maybe you could say that Real Madrid has no chance of achieving great achievements. Also, the reality is that Vinicius is likely to recover soon and thus, Real Madrid performance will remain great this season. Therefore, at least you should be able also to think about when Real Madrid played without Vinicius but Real Madrid managed to get consecutive wins. Then, what will be the results if Vinicius can return to playing, then of course Real Madrid will be more consistent in getting good results in every match.

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The absence of a good striker who can replace Benzema's departure is very visible in Real Madrid's playing pattern this season. If you look at the match against Union Berlian, Real Madrid really needs a reliable striker to be able to score lots of goals. In the victory achieved over Union Berlin, Real Madrid had to work hard and only scored a goal at the end of the match. And Real Madrid's victory is clearly due to Real Madrid's experience on the Champions League stage. Real Madrid must immediately find a good striker if they want to compete in La Liga and the Champions League this season because the current strikers have very minimal contribution.

If we look at their performance so far, Real Madrid seems to still be able to play well and get good results even without a capable new striker. But I think Real Madrid still needs a new striker to face a full season. I think the reason that makes Real Madrid reluctant to sign a new striker and prefers to bring in Joselu as a loan player because they are targeting Mbappe next season as a free agent.

The transfer policy implemented by Real Madrid management is quite good, where Joselu will return to the Espanyol club at the end of the season. Mbappe will be Madrid long-term investment, to be plotted to become the main striker without any competition in his position. However, I'm not sure Mbappe will leave on a free transfer, PSG will certainly try to get money if the French striker really leaves.

It is true that Los Blancos are having difficulty scoring goals at the moment, without an ideal striker. However, I think Vinicius return from injury will make Madrid front line sharp again. Currently, Bellingham is quite capable of alleviating these worries thanks to his goal at an important moment.

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Quote from: Joca97 on September 22, 2023, 10:52:55 AM

Real Madrid without a top striker like Benzema or someone simillar cannot win anything big honesty. Last few games Real Madrid is barely winning the matches in the last minutes and it is just a matter of time when their luck runs out. They need a superstar really soon and a good bench.

Honestly, I agree with you that Real Madrid should look for a very smart striker, and that is what will help them to achieve their dreams this season. I also noticed that they find it difficult to score many nowadays despite their great form. I can't just imagine that Real Madrid created seven short on target against Union Berlin and controlled the pitch with over 70+ ball possession and just managed to score just one goal, which is a sign of a lack of smart and talented strikers. I believe if there is a sharp striker, seven short on goal should lead to many goals. Real Madrid performances this season have been really great, and I believe they can continue with that because they have many great players, but their problem currently, I think, is quality strikers, which I believe it will play a very important role in the team.

Real Madrid are technically being criticized heavily for not having a good striker in the squad. I don't think anyone actually expected Joselu to be a good enough striker for Real Madrid, especially when they play in the Champions League. But right now we can say that he might not even be good enough for La Liga competition. Jude Bellingham is a midfielder. He should be creating chances for his striker. He should not have the pressure of scoring on himself. But that is exactly what has been happening recently. Imagine what outcome Real Madrid could have had if they had a good striker to whom Jude Bellingham could supply the ball to.

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Quote from: Joca97 on September 22, 2023, 10:52:55 AM

Real Madrid without a top striker like Benzema or someone simillar cannot win anything big honesty. Last few games Real Madrid is barely winning the matches in the last minutes and it is just a matter of time when their luck runs out. They need a superstar really soon and a good bench.

Carlo Ancelotti has repeatedly said that he is happy with the players he has in his squad, i'm pretty sure the club has analysed the situation and they believe they can achieve quite a lot with the players they have already. Mind you that Vinicius Junior is also out injured, when he is back he would get more goals for the team, Joselu is also a pretty decent striker, thus i think Real Madrid have all it takes to be successful this season, and then next summer they'll prolly get Mbappe for free.

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If you're expect they need a superstar, the answer is impossible because there's no any team want to let their superstar to join their competitor, they must be want to win in Champions or Europa League.

It's true Real Madrid wins weren't satisfying because they scored in the last minutes, but we shouldn't forget how they won Champions League in the last 2 seasons.

Now is not the right time because when the transfer window opens Real Madrid will definitely move to find a sharper striker, but we still believe the previous speculation about Mbapper so it is likely that Real Madrid will still wait for him until his contract expires but now is not the time.

Even though it ended up being a dramatic win it didn't catch them off guard and I think Real Madrid are still pretty good on all fronts including attacking, of course we are waiting for the summer to see a new striker.

Yes, because Real Madrid lacked a Striker/Finisher, and in the end Bellingham returned to be Real Madrid's savior. This proves how tight the competition is at the highest level in Europe. Even a debutant club (Union) is able to make it difficult for an elite club as great as Real Madrid to achieve victory.

Maybe Real Madrid is still waiting for Mbappe's contract to expire with PSG, and hopes that Mbappe will join Real Madrid. That's why Real Madrid didn't bring in a classy striker in the last transfer window, so Real Madrid is currently only relying on Joselu, maybe if he's better in the future. then Real Madrid will no longer have problems in attack.

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Real Madrid is indeed lacking a top striker this season so Real Madrid must be able to make several players better on the front lines so they can score more goals in any match this season. Because it was very clear that out of 32 shots only one goal occurred, and that happened at the end of the match and I even thought that there would be no goals in the match at all. But fortunately Jude Bellingham was able to save Real Madrid's face at the Santiago Bernabeu.

The absence of a good striker who can replace Benzema's departure is very visible in Real Madrid's playing pattern this season. If you look at the match against Union Berlian, Real Madrid really needs a reliable striker to be able to score lots of goals. In the victory achieved over Union Berlin, Real Madrid had to work hard and only scored a goal at the end of the match. And Real Madrid's victory is clearly due to Real Madrid's experience on the Champions League stage. Real Madrid must immediately find a good striker if they want to compete in La Liga and the Champions League this season because the current strikers have very minimal contribution.

If we look at their performance so far, Real Madrid seems to still be able to play well and get good results even without a capable new striker. But I think Real Madrid still needs a new striker to face a full season. I think the reason that makes Real Madrid reluctant to sign a new striker and prefers to bring in Joselu as a loan player because they are targeting Mbappe next season as a free agent.

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Quote from: Joca97 on September 22, 2023, 10:52:55 AM

Real Madrid without a top striker like Benzema or someone simillar cannot win anything big honesty. Last few games Real Madrid is barely winning the matches in the last minutes and it is just a matter of time when their luck runs out. They need a superstar really soon and a good bench.

Honestly, I agree with you that Real Madrid should look for a very smart striker, and that is what will help them to achieve their dreams this season. I also noticed that they find it difficult to score many nowadays despite their great form. I can't just imagine that Real Madrid created seven short on target against Union Berlin and controlled the pitch with over 70+ ball possession and just managed to score just one goal, which is a sign of a lack of smart and talented strikers. I believe if there is a sharp striker, seven short on goal should lead to many goals. Real Madrid performances this season have been really great, and I believe they can continue with that because they have many great players, but their problem currently, I think, is quality strikers, which I believe it will play a very important role in the team.

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Quote from: hahay on September 22, 2023, 09:59:07 AM

Basically, Real Madrid has great quality players regarding the main players they have but unfortunately, Real Madrid does not have second-tier players who have the same good quality as the main players. Therefore, when the main player is injured, then there is no second Real Madrid player who can make a big contribution to the team in each match. Because anyway, if Vinicius is not injured and can still be played in every Real Madrid match also in the end Real Madrid will be able to achieve good results too. Because anyway, even though at this moment Real Madrid cannot play all the main players, but the fact is that Real Madrid at this moment also still managed to achieve good results.

One of Real Madrid successes in maintaining consistent performance is the unity of its players. Real Madrid players managed to break the assumption of a decline in performance after the club failed to bring in a quality striker. Their solidarity in building relationships between players has made Real Madrid successful in winning every match.

Real Madrid busy schedule this season is a time bomb for Ancelotti, The lack of players in the striker position becomes an obstacle when a player is injured. Real Madrid balanced performance will be difficult to maintain if the team's depth is uneven. Ancelotti must reflect on the incident that happened to Manchester United when many players were injured. Preparations need to be made before that time comes, Ancelotti can prevent this by bringing in players who are really needed in positions that are currently short of players.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on September 22, 2023, 11:16:18 AM

I'm starting to think a little differently about Onana, as the Cameroonian goalkeeper hasn't been the best since Inter. Even though his statistics were quite good when he played at Inter Milan, I think the strength of Inter defense is a factor in Onana quality. We know that a club like Man City was only able to score one goal in the UCL final last season, and the number of goals conceded by Onana and Inter was very minimal. Since joining Man United, Onana has had difficulty adapting to a very different league playing culture, and is not supported by a good defensive line. This automatically makes Onana perform badly, and almost always makes mistakes by making blunders.

So it is clear that De Gea is indeed better than Onana, I think it is also very natural for everyone to compare the two. Because The Red Devils treatment of De Gea is considered unfair, as one of the players who has served United for a long time.

It's obvious at this point that onana's exceptional performance at inter was definitely as a result of the defense system at inter which at some point made up for his blunders that would have been obvious, if the UCL finals last season was the only yardstick for judgement as to how well onana could perform then I must say that judgement was very defective.

In order to be sure enough and pass a good judgement, they should have put into consideration his cumulative performance throughout the UCL last season and his performance at their local league aswell that way we could give proper verdict to as if he was good enough to be bought and made the first choice goal keeper for Manchester united.

De gea is a far more better goal keeper as compared to onana, he not only make exceptional saves he also cover up for some defensive errors, something onana cannot at this time do. I would say this comparison is definitely not matching at all as they are both far apart in quality and the difference is just too big on the other side of one as compared to the other, they may have both played in bigger leagues but they still don't match

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Real Madrid without a top striker like Benzema or someone simillar cannot win anything big honesty. Last few games Real Madrid is barely winning the matches in the last minutes and it is just a matter of time when their luck runs out. They need a superstar really soon and a good bench.

If you're expect they need a superstar, the answer is impossible because there's no any team want to let their superstar to join their competitor, they must be want to win in Champions or Europa League.

It's true Real Madrid wins weren't satisfying because they scored in the last minutes, but we shouldn't forget how they won Champions League in the last 2 seasons.

Now is not the right time because when the transfer window opens Real Madrid will definitely move to find a sharper striker, but we still believe the previous speculation about Mbapper so it is likely that Real Madrid will still wait for him until his contract expires but now is not the time.

Even though it ended up being a dramatic win it didn't catch them off guard and I think Real Madrid are still pretty good on all fronts including attacking, of course we are waiting for the summer to see a new striker.

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Quote from: sana54210 on September 22, 2023, 07:49:15 AM

That's really a shocking thing to me really, I did not expected Jude to be scoring this many goals, he didn't show that side of his game before he came here and after joining Real, he started to show the world that he could score as well. That's a good thing, because at this point they should just put Jude as their striker and they would still do better than Joselu as well, considering all the players they are lacking, nobody would mind either.

I know that won't happen but it is also not t he craziest thing ever neither, it is definitely something that would be fun to watch if it ever happened, he is already scoring so much and plays upfront so much too, so him playing at striker position wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

Me too. I was expecting him to play like average attacking midfielders but it surprises me how jude bellingham likes played in two roles at the same time. Joselu is still under perform and jude has been also become another striker after him as well.
It's amazing to see jude is performing beyond my imagination. 100 millions looked like quite cheap for a great talent like him. It's amazing jude was moving to the right place even though he was not able playing together with benzema.
Barcelona is also having many great young players as well. It seems like real madrid will not make joselu as a permanent player for the club.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on September 21, 2023, 02:36:01 PM

I actually thought it was the red card that caused the whole game changer for Galatasaray because the opposite team actually played very well and also going two goals wasn't just luck as they perfectly played and calculated their tactics very well and I believe if not the red card the game would have been a totally different results because all Galatasaray could have done was if they can manage an equalizer goal.

Galatasaray was the better team for sure and they deserved to score, but when it is 0-2 until the 86th minute I think the Kopenhagen team fought hard and also deserved to win something and in this case rather 3 points than 1 point. The red card is very hard to cope with if you are under fire all the time anyway, as was the case in this game between these two teams. Losing one man weighs heavier than some would think especially in a game that is so much about the defensive effort of the leading team. It opened the door for Galatasaray to go for the turnaround.

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In fact, it cannot be said that the defeat experienced by Manchester United was completely blamed on the players, but their coach Ten Hag may not have been able to manage the Manchester United squad players well, because if only he could manage them properly I think he could reduce the space to face them. opponent's attack. I think Ten Hag should be replaced by another, better coach.

I don't think there's a good coach that still available, most of good coaches already manage their own teams or national teams. Manchester United need to spend good amount of money if they want to hire a good coach from other teams, this is not possible as they have financial difficulty now.

We can't just conclude the problem is from the coach inability to manage the team. This is the same coach that was able to manage the team who out top four in the Premier league. It will be to fast to drop Eric ten Hag as Manchester United coach , Manchester United problem is not just the goal, the problem is not from one person but everyone in the team. Manchester United have defensive problem, the find it so difficult to score goals whenever they have opportunity. Manchester United goalkeeper should be last to be blamed for their current problem of bad performance.

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Quote from: Sakanwa on September 22, 2023, 10:01:24 AM

Onana is not a good goal keeper from all indications,I have watched him carefully this season from the first game he stood in goal for the club,everyone thought he was going to be a perfect replacement for De Gea who left the club,but he is no where near him,infact he is the worst keeper in the premier league now.The whole team played well in ensuring they came back to equalise the goals that were early scored by Bayern,but Onana's poor performance didn't allow them get the draw they were looking for.They will face Burnley again in their next Premier league game,and I think they will continue suffering because they lack that winning mentality in the team,and that is the most important element needed for any team to do well.

I'm starting to think a little differently about Onana, as the Cameroonian goalkeeper hasn't been the best since Inter. Even though his statistics were quite good when he played at Inter Milan, I think the strength of Inter defense is a factor in Onana quality. We know that a club like Man City was only able to score one goal in the UCL final last season, and the number of goals conceded by Onana and Inter was very minimal. Since joining Man United, Onana has had difficulty adapting to a very different league playing culture, and is not supported by a good defensive line. This automatically makes Onana perform badly, and almost always makes mistakes by making blunders.

So it is clear that De Gea is indeed better than Onana, I think it is also very natural for everyone to compare the two. Because The Red Devils treatment of De Gea is considered unfair, as one of the players who has served United for a long time.

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Quote from: Joca97 on September 22, 2023, 10:52:55 AM

Real Madrid without a top striker like Benzema or someone simillar cannot win anything big honesty. Last few games Real Madrid is barely winning the matches in the last minutes and it is just a matter of time when their luck runs out. They need a superstar really soon and a good bench.

If you're expect they need a superstar, the answer is impossible because there's no any team want to let their superstar to join their competitor, they must be want to win in Champions or Europa League.

It's true Real Madrid wins weren't satisfying because they scored in the last minutes, but we shouldn't forget how they won Champions League in the last 2 seasons.

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Quote from: hahay on September 22, 2023, 09:59:07 AM

Basically, Real Madrid has great quality players regarding the main players they have but unfortunately, Real Madrid does not have second-tier players who have the same good quality as the main players. Therefore, when the main player is injured, then there is no second Real Madrid player who can make a big contribution to the team in each match. Because anyway, if Vinicius is not injured and can still be played in every Real Madrid match also in the end Real Madrid will be able to achieve good results too. Because anyway, even though at this moment Real Madrid cannot play all the main players, but the fact is that Real Madrid at this moment also still managed to achieve good results.

Real Madrid has the quality to defeat any club, even if some of their players are not in the square, since Madrid started this season, they have not lost or drawn in any single match they play, and some of their key players are injured, and they are still winning matches, Ancelotti is a great coach who is performing very well in all competitions, real madrid's match this weekend with Athletico Madrid will be a very tough game, and Ancelotti said vini jr we not play, they don't want to risk him because he isn't yet fit, and Madrid will still play great ball without Vini Jr, I trust the coach and the players, they are motivated to defeat Athletico Madrid, and they will continue to win matches this season, I can say is only Barcelona can stop Madrid this season in laliga, I will know if they play their first el clasico next month in camp nu, and then I will know who can win the league trophy this season again.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on September 22, 2023, 04:17:35 AM

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In fact, it cannot be said that the defeat experienced by Manchester United was completely blamed on the players, but their coach Ten Hag may not have been able to manage the Manchester United squad players well, because if only he could manage them properly I think he could reduce the space to face them. opponent's attack. I think Ten Hag should be replaced by another, better coach.

I don't think there's a good coach that still available, most of good coaches already manage their own teams or national teams. Manchester United need to spend good amount of money if they want to hire a good coach from other teams, this is not possible as they have financial difficulty now.

It will never work for united to sign a new coach. The main problem was not in the coach, but so many players performed so badly since the early of season. This makes the team regressed.
It doesn't even matter even if glazer is signing pep guardiola caused by the problem was on the players. These players are absolute jokes except some like rashford, hojlund, casemiro. Manchester united has also the worst defenders in the history of club.

It's so easy for manchester united to conceded goals by its opponents. We need to look at the players because a lot of players were poor.

Fans was always blaming ten hag for something that he could handle it.

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