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September 17, 2023, 04:52:40 PM
I doubt with Manchester United will take first three points away against Bayern Munich due have quit well performance in domestic league.
With the way Manchester united is currently performing in premier league, i don't think Manchester united will be able to win Bayern Munich, Manchester united performance is really poor this season, we all know Bayern Munich to be a strong club and there performance is really good currently, Manchester united those not even stand any chance, i see the match to be a easy win for Bayern Munich.

Manchester United have serious problem with defense position, until 5 matches they have conceded 10 goals and doubt with Champion League opening match against Bayern Munich will easily get points.
Manchester United's defense is really poor, in the 5 matches that they have played in the Premier League, their goalkeeper has already conceded 10 goals, and I don't really blame only the goalkeeper, I blame the defenders for most of those goals scored. If a defense is poor, no matter how good a goalkeeper is, he is still going to concede. Am not also impressed by their goalkeeper, his performance is below everyone's expectations.

With Manchester United's overall performance since the start of the new season, I think it'll be very difficult for them to have a good campaign in the UEFA Champions League competition this season. Conceding 10 goals in their first five league matches if the season is a true testament that the club's defense is nothing to write home about.
They begin their champions league campaign away at Bayern Munich in the midweek and judging by what I've  see so far, I'll be very surprised to see them take a point from that game
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September 17, 2023, 04:51:53 PM
With the way Manchester united is currently performing in premier league, i don't think Manchester united will be able to win Bayern Munich, Manchester united performance is really poor this season, we all know Bayern Munich to be a strong club and there performance is really good currently, Manchester united those not even stand any chance, i see the match to be a easy win for Bayern Munich.
Indeed. Man United isn't in their best form, they are decreasing their performance. With this condition, it is difficult to win against Bayern Munich, especially the match will be held in Bayern home. Bayern Munich is in a good form lately, they also must play more aggressively to play at their home. I see no reason that Bayern Munich to get defeated by Man United.
I think for the first match in group A this is already completely Bayern's if you look at the condition of Manchester United now.
Their attacking line is having problems, their midfield is also not contributing well and is always losing moves and their defence is really bad because for now they are too weak for a club like Manchester United.
Given the disparity I wouldn't even hesitate to place my bet on Bayern in this match as their domestic form won't change too much for this early match.
But looking at the clubs in Group A to qualify for the knock out phase I think it's still possible for Untied to do so even if it's only as runners up.
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September 17, 2023, 04:44:19 PM
With the way Manchester united is currently performing in premier league, i don't think Manchester united will be able to win Bayern Munich, Manchester united performance is really poor this season, we all know Bayern Munich to be a strong club and there performance is really good currently, Manchester united those not even stand any chance, i see the match to be a easy win for Bayern Munich.
Indeed. Man United isn't in their best form, they are decreasing their performance. With this condition, it is difficult to win against Bayern Munich, especially the match will be held in Bayern home. Bayern Munich is in a good form lately, they also must play more aggressively to play at their home. I see no reason that Bayern Munich to get defeated by Man United.

Manchester United's defense is really poor, in the 5 matches that they have played in the Premier League, their goalkeeper has already conceded 10 goals, and I don't really blame only the goalkeeper, I blame the defenders for most of those goals scored. If a defense is poor, no matter how good a goalkeeper is, he is still going to concede. Am not also impressed by their goalkeeper, his performance is below everyone's expectations.
Yes, Man United defense looks very weak recently. In the last 2 matches of EPL, they got 6 conceded goals. It is very bad for a big team like Man United. It is even worse than the previous season. Their attacking also didn't perform optimally after the absence of Antony.

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September 17, 2023, 03:38:02 PM
I doubt with Manchester United will take first three points away against Bayern Munich due have quit well performance in domestic league.
With the way Manchester united is currently performing in premier league, i don't think Manchester united will be able to win Bayern Munich, Manchester united performance is really poor this season, we all know Bayern Munich to be a strong club and there performance is really good currently, Manchester united those not even stand any chance, i see the match to be a easy win for Bayern Munich.

Manchester United have serious problem with defense position, until 5 matches they have conceded 10 goals and doubt with Champion League opening match against Bayern Munich will easily get points.
Manchester United's defense is really poor, in the 5 matches that they have played in the Premier League, their goalkeeper has already conceded 10 goals, and I don't really blame only the goalkeeper, I blame the defenders for most of those goals scored. If a defense is poor, no matter how good a goalkeeper is, he is still going to concede. Am not also impressed by their goalkeeper, his performance is below everyone's expectations.
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September 17, 2023, 03:25:34 PM
Few days later before opening match between Bayern Munich vs Manchester United in Champion League have bad capital for United after losing in domestic league, I doubt with Manchester United will take first three points away against Bayern Munich due have quit well performance in domestic league. Bayern Munich's forward Harry Kane on confidence performance, he was scored 4 goals of 4 matches in domestic league and more confidence for facing Manchester United with poor performance and they don't have good striker right now. In domestic league, Manchester United have serious problem with defense position, until 5 matches they have conceded 10 goals and doubt with Champion League opening match against Bayern Munich will easily get points.

Seems more than 80% for Bayern Munich winning ratio and seems difficult for United keep fighting qualify to next round because still have another favorite team Galatasaray.

I think Bayern will score 4 times on United and that would be the end for Ten Haag as United manager. I believe this because Bayern right now is a monster who needs just a simple poke in order to awake and dominate almost every other team from Europa ( besides City and Real so far ) so yea ...Bayern are favorites by a mile in this game. For United ...ah , can we say something good about this team lately ? Because frankly , I don't see a single improvement from United during these first games EPL season but Bayern on the other hand , are playing with almost no mistakes in Bundesliga.  Cool
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September 17, 2023, 02:50:45 PM

Probably lots of people here have changed their minds after seeing the game of PSG against Nice. Me included by the way. At first I was sure that PSG would be the strongest team in that Group F, but this idea can't really be held up after that result. If they lose their home games like that, how will they do when they play in Newcastle or Milan or Dortmund? Those are definitely not games they could take home easy points from. When they also lose their home games like that, who knows but maybe they'll be knocked out before the knockout stage even starts.

If you look at the four clubs in that F group you will see that even with PSG poor performances in the league this season they still can top that group. My reason is because the four teams has had a mixed start to the season with none of them happy to be where they are today. More so we don’t use the league performances to as a yard stick to judge the performance of the players when coming into the champions league. We have in the past witnessed many club’s lifting the trophy and playing bad in the league, some self missing out of the top four.

I just have this iota of confidence that with the current squad PSG has without big names to add pressure to them they can go a long way in the competition. The season is just starting and they can still fight for every single trophy this season even with the poor start to the season, if Luiz Enrique gets his team tactics right.

For PSG to go a long way I think it will be vital to not get the wrong opponent in the round of 16 or in the quarterfinals. If they face a team like Real Madrid or Manchester City in one of those rounds, I doubt that PSG has the manpower to win against one of the favorites. So most importantly they should finish their group as 1st and then see what their next opponent in the knockout rounds will be. The drawings can have a significant impact on the outcome for any club on their success in the Champions League. Last season PSG was playing against Bayern in the round of 16 and it was instantly over for them. I think they could have survived that round if they had faced a weaker opponent. That's why my answer is that it depends first on their rank in the group stage. If they finish 2nd, the first opponent might already be too strong for them in the knockout round.
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September 17, 2023, 02:22:02 PM
Few days later before opening match between Bayern Munich vs Manchester United in Champion League have bad capital for United after losing in domestic league, I doubt with Manchester United will take first three points away against Bayern Munich due have quit well performance in domestic league. Bayern Munich's forward Harry Kane on confidence performance, he was scored 4 goals of 4 matches in domestic league and more confidence for facing Manchester United with poor performance and they don't have good striker right now. In domestic league, Manchester United have serious problem with defense position, until 5 matches they have conceded 10 goals and doubt with Champion League opening match against Bayern Munich will easily get points.

Seems more than 80% for Bayern Munich winning ratio and seems difficult for United keep fighting qualify to next round because still have another favorite team Galatasaray.
On the other hand, I have no hesitation in saying that Manchester United does not have high hopes of winning the match against Bayern Munich. Manchester United's performance in their last few matches in the Premier League can clearly be a benchmark for the possibility of winning in the Champions League, so I have no hesitation in saying they will lose to Bayern Munich.

Moreover, Bayern Munich can be the favorite considering they are playing at home and their performance so far has been very convincing. Manchester United certainly had a chance to get points, but they weren't really expected to.
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September 17, 2023, 02:17:51 PM
Few days later before opening match between Bayern Munich vs Manchester United in Champion League have bad capital for United after losing in domestic league, I doubt with Manchester United will take first three points away against Bayern Munich due have quit well performance in domestic league. Bayern Munich's forward Harry Kane on confidence performance, he was scored 4 goals of 4 matches in domestic league and more confidence for facing Manchester United with poor performance and they don't have good striker right now. In domestic league, Manchester United have serious problem with defense position, until 5 matches they have conceded 10 goals and doubt with Champion League opening match against Bayern Munich will easily get points.

Seems more than 80% for Bayern Munich winning ratio and seems difficult for United keep fighting qualify to next round because still have another favorite team Galatasaray.
I also doubt Manchester United's performance at the moment but my thoughts sometimes turn to the question of whether a bad performance in the domestic league will affect the Champions League match? And if that is true, it seems like there is no longer any way for United to progress to the next round.
But if it turns out that suddenly in the domestic league they deliberately perform poorly and in the Champions League match their performance increases, this is really a thought beyond my reasoning but this also makes sense because sometimes a club does not perform well in the domestic league to physically prepare the players to qualify for the round. next steal points early.
For the opening match between Bayern Munich vs Manchester United I will only bet a small amount because I still have doubts.
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September 17, 2023, 01:59:09 PM
Bayern Munich's attack is very strong. And this team always performs well against weak defenses. I don't think Manchester United will be able to put up any resistance against Bayern Munich.
Manchester United defense is very weak, I can’t just imagine the amount of goals which Bayern Munich will be scoring in the match, Manchester United defense is so poor, so it will be very easy for Bayern Munich to penetrate.
Currently Manchester United can be said to be finished before the match against Bayern Munich later and it's no wonder their defense is so weak that they often concede goals. Moreover, Andre Onana, who is said to be better than De Gea, has actually conceded 10 goals in the last 5 matches in the domestic league. It seems that Erik ten Hag is very worried about the performance of his players and if this continues to happen then they might fall in the group phase. Bayern Munich, who are favored as hosts, will certainly hit Manchester United hard in the match, especially since they have Harry Kane, who is a former EPL top scorer and it is an easy job for him.

The goalkeeper is the last defensive wall of a team, before entering the penalty box in the goalkeeper's area, the opposing team must break through the defensive line players. Unfortunately, United's important players, especially in defense, were injured. In the end, Ten Hag played a second tier player who was less reliable. As a result, United suffered three defeats from five matches. two of them, won with hard work.

Talking about Andre Onana, I haven't heard or read any reports that United's new goalkeeper is better than De Gea. In fact, I would say that Onana is one level below De Gea. It's just that Ten Hag's assessment of Onana is that the goalkeeper suits the style and system he uses. he is a typical modern goalkeeper, who starts building attacks from him. Onana has a weakness, namely the top balls. However, this goalkeeper is quite deft. The point is, that's why Ten Hag brought him from Inter. while De Gea is a typical goalkeeper who is more of an old style. However, no one doubts how great he is when guarding United's goal. Now, he is no longer part of Manchester United.

I'm pretty sure Ten Hag knows what he has to do. In the match against Bayern, Ten Hag knew what was the problem with his team's squad. There are not many choices he can make, but he can maximize the available players and formulate a strategy to provide resistance to the Bundesliga giants. If Ten Hag is able to provide resistance in this match, even with his team's current condition, it will be luck for them. because Bayern will not waste the opportunity to beat United when playing at the Allianz Arena.
Well, because the match hasn't been held yet, we'll just have to wait until the time comes.
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September 17, 2023, 12:22:40 PM
Few days later before opening match between Bayern Munich vs Manchester United in Champion League have bad capital for United after losing in domestic league, I doubt with Manchester United will take first three points away against Bayern Munich due have quit well performance in domestic league. Bayern Munich's forward Harry Kane on confidence performance, he was scored 4 goals of 4 matches in domestic league and more confidence for facing Manchester United with poor performance and they don't have good striker right now. In domestic league, Manchester United have serious problem with defense position, until 5 matches they have conceded 10 goals and doubt with Champion League opening match against Bayern Munich will easily get points.

Seems more than 80% for Bayern Munich winning ratio and seems difficult for United keep fighting qualify to next round because still have another favorite team Galatasaray.
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September 17, 2023, 12:21:30 PM
I dont think so, Manchester United plays better on Champions League than  in Premier League i see this happen in various seasons, the most recorded one was the one where they eliminated the PSG playing like shit, i dont know if anyone remeber that game, i think it was a goal from Pogba from outside the box.
Historically there is a difference when they play in the Champions League and the domestic league, but logically we will definitely look first at how they perform in the domestic league to serve as an illustration of how they will play in the Champions League. And now Manchester United have not yet found their stable form, and surely that will be a measure for us for the match in the Champions League.
There are things that may be external factors in this case, such as the results of the drawing or something related to luck. With the current situation I see at Manchester United, I'm quite skeptical of them.
Pocketing a defeat at home for a UCL group stage match is not a good investment, United luck lies in Munchen draw at home. If Munchen also loses at home in the match against Laverkusen, their fate will be the same when they compete. I would put Munchen to be the next nightmare for Ten Hag, regarding the historical meeting of the two clubs. Munchen is better than United. Even though The Red Devils are the favorite club to qualify from the Group A phase, I am not completely sure about this. Because Galatasaray could be a dark horse that can take advantage of the instability of Ten Hag squad, as well as Copenhagen.

However, Ten Hag must be able to overcome this difficult situation, even if he loses, at least not by a large margin. Or what makes more sense is, holding Munchen to a draw at the Allianz Arena. In meetings with two other clubs, Ten Hag must be able to secure full points. The most logical picture for Ten Hag, to bring United through the group phase.
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September 17, 2023, 12:17:19 PM
Bayern Munich's attack is very strong. And this team always performs well against weak defenses. I don't think Manchester United will be able to put up any resistance against Bayern Munich.
Manchester United defense is very weak, I can’t just imagine the amount of goals which Bayern Munich will be scoring in the match, Manchester United defense is so poor, so it will be very easy for Bayern Munich to penetrate.
Currently Manchester United can be said to be finished before the match against Bayern Munich later and it's no wonder their defense is so weak that they often concede goals. Moreover, Andre Onana, who is said to be better than De Gea, has actually conceded 10 goals in the last 5 matches in the domestic league. It seems that Erik ten Hag is very worried about the performance of his players and if this continues to happen then they might fall in the group phase. Bayern Munich, who are favored as hosts, will certainly hit Manchester United hard in the match, especially since they have Harry Kane, who is a former EPL top scorer and it is an easy job for him.

Manchester United form currently is very weak and not impressive. They just lost another match yesterday to Brighton which some people supposedly thought they will win without much problem. Although, champions league is viewed as a more competitive game than the domestic league, so some clubs always put more energy here to play than the domestic league matches. Comparing Bayern Munich and Manchester United now, the match will definitely be a win against Manchester United. Even before they lost form now, Bayern Munich have been a better team and will have an edge on them. Now that their performance is poor, I’m expecting a swift win for Bayern Munich on Wednesday.
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September 17, 2023, 12:08:07 PM
Bayern Munich's attack is very strong. And this team always performs well against weak defenses. I don't think Manchester United will be able to put up any resistance against Bayern Munich.
Manchester United defense is very weak, I can’t just imagine the amount of goals which Bayern Munich will be scoring in the match, Manchester United defense is so poor, so it will be very easy for Bayern Munich to penetrate.
Currently Manchester United can be said to be finished before the match against Bayern Munich later and it's no wonder their defense is so weak that they often concede goals. Moreover, Andre Onana, who is said to be better than De Gea, has actually conceded 10 goals in the last 5 matches in the domestic league. It seems that Erik ten Hag is very worried about the performance of his players and if this continues to happen then they might fall in the group phase. Bayern Munich, who are favored as hosts, will certainly hit Manchester United hard in the match, especially since they have Harry Kane, who is a former EPL top scorer and it is an easy job for him.

Attacking first comes from defense and the defenders, with a weak and frail Manchester United defense, they have found it difficult.
Against Bayern Munich, I don't expect too much goals, if Manchester United put in work, they'll get a point from that game. They did not play badly against Brighton, bit at some level of the game, the decisions from Erik Ten Hag didn't go well.

The English Captain has been brilliant and will do more. We shall see how the game ends but for now better chances are in place for Bayern Munich to get the better chances of winning.
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September 17, 2023, 11:26:21 AM
Currently Manchester United can be said to be finished before the match against Bayern Munich later and it's no wonder their defense is so weak that they often concede goals. Moreover, Andre Onana, who is said to be better than De Gea, has actually conceded 10 goals in the last 5 matches in the domestic league. It seems that Erik ten Hag is very worried about the performance of his players and if this continues to happen then they might fall in the group phase. Bayern Munich, who are favored as hosts, will certainly hit Manchester United hard in the match, especially since they have Harry Kane, who is a former EPL top scorer and it is an easy job for him.
But I bet that the match will result in a very heavy defeat like 4-0 or above. It was the first match in group A and it was not a difficult group for Bayern. So Bayern will play more openly and if you look at United's performance when they were beaten by Brighton, I bet that Munich and Galatasaray will qualify from group A.
I do not think that it would be quite similar to the league. United lost to Brighton but first of all we do not know if Brighton would be able to beat Galatasaray or Copenhagen, maybe they will be able to beat them as well, so it would not mean anything.

Secondly, just because United has been not that good for a while at the league, doesn't mean they are going to end up with good results at UCL, there are some teams that play terrible at the league but better at European competitions and United could be like that too. We should be able to just let it see and change over some period of time. Hopefully, we could end up with a better results and a lot of fun games, it will make it work a lot better to watch close games.
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September 17, 2023, 10:30:04 AM
I dont think so, Manchester United plays better on Champions League than  in Premier League i see this happen in various seasons, the most recorded one was the one where they eliminated the PSG playing like shit, i dont know if anyone remeber that game, i think it was a goal from Pogba from outside the box.
Historically there is a difference when they play in the Champions League and the domestic league, but logically we will definitely look first at how they perform in the domestic league to serve as an illustration of how they will play in the Champions League. And now Manchester United have not yet found their stable form, and surely that will be a measure for us for the match in the Champions League.
There are things that may be external factors in this case, such as the results of the drawing or something related to luck. With the current situation I see at Manchester United, I'm quite skeptical of them.
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September 17, 2023, 10:20:58 AM
But I bet that the match will result in a very heavy defeat like 4-0 or above. It was the first match in group A and it was not a difficult group for Bayern. So Bayern will play more openly and if you look at United's performance when they were beaten by Brighton, I bet that Munich and Galatasaray will qualify from group A.
For the match between Bayern Munich vs Manchester United, I am also more confident that Bayern Munich will win the match, but for the Galatasaray vs Copenhagen match it will be a little difficult to determine who will win the match. And regarding the issue of who will qualify for the next round, I don't think that needs to be thought about now because there are still several matches to determine who will qualify for the next round.

I personally still remain confident about Bayern Munich who will certainly win the group, and about the runner up I personally have two choices about Manchester United and also Galatasaray. So, if I have to choose the winning team in the match between Bayern Munich aganist Manchester United then obviously, I believe Bayern Munich will be able to win maybe also with clean sheets. Also, about the match between Galatasaray vs Copenhagen, it is clear that I will choose Galatasaray to win because I think, Galatasaray has a reliable squad because they have good quality too.

Me too. Bayern is likely having more than 75% chance to qualify for the play off. Manchester united is in the same level as galatasaray and copenhagen. There's no need to feel worry about that. I have been taking bayern for upcoming match against manchester united.
It seems like to me that if united will perform even worst like when it was facing brighton. There's no need to feel worry with rashford. This guy is just playing average. Rashford will not be able to be a threat for bayern as he has no good team mate at this moment.
MU was not as good as last season. Some changes being made in the club give nothing. Mason mount has been performing so badly as well as another player.
MU is also having worts defensive lines as well. Bayern will able to score a lot of goals against manchester united. MU will become the first victim from tuchel's club.
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September 17, 2023, 10:08:33 AM
I dont think so, Manchester United plays better on Champions League than  in Premier League i see this happen in various seasons, the most recorded one was the one where they eliminated the PSG playing like shit, i dont know if anyone remeber that game, i think it was a goal from Pogba from outside the box.
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September 17, 2023, 09:33:43 AM
Bayern Munich has quite a quality striker this season, even Harry Kane has quite a long experience with EPL teams. So that will be the advantage that Bayern Munich has in their meeting in the first leg of the group phase against Manchester United. I think with current strength Bayern Munich is one of the strongest teams in Group A.

Manchester United were not at their best because they were easily beaten by Brighton in front of their supporters. Moreover, several players are injured which will hinder their performance when facing Bayern Munich. I predict Bayern Munich will win this match, especially since the first leg match will be played at the Allianz Arena stadium so Bayern Munich is the favorite in this match.
I'm die hard Chelsea fan, despite my team not surviving up to the level of UEFA Champions League spots, the ones that did will return back to EPL with nothing to show for, its not bad mouth or wish but true facts. I'm contended about my team's predicament, to see the decline of Manchester United present status and fans, they did actually deserved it because they were the ones bragging about qualifying for UCL Competition, let's see what the Red Devils have to offered when they meet Bayern Munich, I'm confident and would place my wagers in favour of the Bavarians. Bayern Munich will hosts Manchester United at the Allianz Arena in the first leg of UCL football. It would be quite an easy easy game for the Bavarians, because Manchester United are suffering and having no single strength at all to match up the level of the Bundesliga giant. Thomas Tuchel would be looking forward to smash Erik Ten Hag in this round when they meetup.

It's hard for manchester united to qualifiy for play off. Im not being so skeptical of the club but i just said based on the truth if manchester united's performance has been declining so hard. Manchester united has lost some important players.
Ten hag will be only using available player to play against bayern which is making me feel worry about that. MU may be humiliated by bayern with a lot of goals. The chance to qualify for the play off looked like pretty small after MU consistently losing the game in EPL.
Even though ten hag's squad was at a non strong club but it will be so hard to beat galatasaray and copenhagen. Tuchel will beat ten hag in allianz arena.
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September 17, 2023, 09:24:44 AM
Im sure bayern will be winning the match against manchester united. It's caused by bayern is feeling so confidence in playing at home. It will be a disaster for Manchester united caused by the club will be unable to perform with its best squad.
There have been so many issues happening in manchester united. Manchester united was not strong enough to face some clubs like copenhagen and galatasaray.
Im feeling that if manchester united needs to change its strategy again. The current strategy was not even enough in helping manchester united to play better. Hojlund still needs time to be trusted by its teammates.
It's sad his team is not fully trusting him as a central forward. I hope ten hag will be coming with good solutions for all of problems.
After what happened at Manchester United, I think everyone will bet more on Bayern Munich in the match against Manchester United. Because from the statistical strength of each Bayern Munich benefit. It seems that Harry Kane will enjoy the match against the Premier League club and he will not hesitate to surprise in the midst of Manchester United's problem crisis. What are Erik Ten Hag's preparations so far? I'm not sure about his readiness plus important players like Antony can't play.
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September 17, 2023, 09:19:05 AM
But I bet that the match will result in a very heavy defeat like 4-0 or above. It was the first match in group A and it was not a difficult group for Bayern. So Bayern will play more openly and if you look at United's performance when they were beaten by Brighton, I bet that Munich and Galatasaray will qualify from group A.
For the match between Bayern Munich vs Manchester United, I am also more confident that Bayern Munich will win the match, but for the Galatasaray vs Copenhagen match it will be a little difficult to determine who will win the match. And regarding the issue of who will qualify for the next round, I don't think that needs to be thought about now because there are still several matches to determine who will qualify for the next round.

I personally still remain confident about Bayern Munich who will certainly win the group, and about the runner up I personally have two choices about Manchester United and also Galatasaray. So, if I have to choose the winning team in the match between Bayern Munich aganist Manchester United then obviously, I believe Bayern Munich will be able to win maybe also with clean sheets. Also, about the match between Galatasaray vs Copenhagen, it is clear that I will choose Galatasaray to win because I think, Galatasaray has a reliable squad because they have good quality too.
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