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September 12, 2023, 11:53:37 AM
the group F: PSG Dortmund Milan Newcastle,  in this one we dont ahve a clear favorite but seems like PSG its a step ahead and Newcaslte also.
Between PSG, Dortmund, Milan, and Newcastle, I am quite optimistic that PSG and Milan will qualify. Without doubting Dortmund or Newcastle, it's just to see the difference in their respective strengths also in terms of the squad where PSG might have the task of fixing the midfield, Inter needs a sharp forward, Dortmund without Bellingham needs to implement a new format and Newcastle will clearly still be groping in the midst of the dark experience of playing at UCL after a long time.
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September 12, 2023, 11:45:05 AM
Guys only two groups are difficult to know who are gonna pass into the 16 round/phase.

And this two groups are B: Sevilla Arsenal PSV Lens, with Arsenal as a favorite, and the group F: PSG Dortmund Milan Newcastle,  in this one we dont ahve a clear favorite but seems like PSG its a step ahead and Newcaslte also.

Perhaps, with the inclusion of Ramos in the Sevilla squad, it could be that Sevilla will also have a good chance of becoming the runner up in this group. But yes, at least Arsenal are clearly favored, because from last season Arsenal have also managed to improve their performance in the Premier League. So, with that success, then at least Arsenal have a good chance also this season to be able to advance or qualify for the round of 16 in the Champions League.

But about group F, I think every team in group F has the same chance to qualify for the next phase. Because in my personal judgment, PSG also does not have a strong guarantee to qualify. Because PSG still relies heavily on Mbappe to improve the team's performance, and in my opinion it is a bad way.
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September 12, 2023, 11:01:09 AM
Guys only two groups are difficult to know who are gonna pass into the 16 round/phase.
Group B is a group with normal difficulty, Group A and C with hard difficulty and group F with challenging difficulty.

And this two groups are B: Sevilla Arsenal PSV Lens, with Arsenal as a favorite, and the group F: PSG Dortmund Milan Newcastle,  in this one we dont ahve a clear favorite but seems like PSG its a step ahead and Newcaslte also.

I would rather than pick group A or C as a difficult group compared with group B. Lens and sevilla are still performing the worst in the domestic league. No reason for arsenal to lose against those clubs which are still showing horrible and inconsistent performances.

The group F is considerable as the most difficult group this season. You can compare that if group a has some strong teams like MU, Bayern and Galatasaray.
Group C has some strong teams like Napoli, Madrid, Berlin. The group B has only arsenal as the strongest team. Even though sevilla was winning europa league but its performance is far from good.

Arsenal shall have beaten it easily without a tough game. In fact, arsenal is also inconsistent team. I remind you that how arsenal was losing last season in europa league.

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September 12, 2023, 10:52:42 AM
To be honest Group F is the only group in this tournament I think any team that loses this Champions League would be a great miss, Newcastle had an amazing performance in the last season in the Premier League, especially in the last weeks of the season which made us think this team can even have a chance the Champions League, also Dortound even after losing the players they sold is still strong teams in Germany and they are usually on top of the table, PSG had many changes and now they are the hopping even win this tournament.
Every match in Group F will be very interesting so those who miss any of the Group F matches will miss out on a competitive match in the Champions League. With teams like PSG Newcastle Dortmund in Group F, you can imagine how competitive every match in Group F will be. Newcastle, who performed brilliantly last season, will surely perform well this season, while PSG or Dortmund can shine this season.  Group F teams who have watched hope they don't miss any Group F matches.
Yes, you are right, this match, especially Group F, will indeed be a very exciting match because big clubs are in this group, even like Paris SG who have to fight Newcastle and AC Milan, which will really be a very tight competition and for Borussia Dortmund I say club This definitely won't be able to last long in every match because I'm not sure about this club's performance.
So I will just focus and bet on the matches of all of Group F except Dortmund, which disappointed me as a fan last season.
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September 12, 2023, 10:28:50 AM
Some teams could be great at their own league but I do not see Bayern being able to win the UCL this season to be fair. City once again looks like the best team and should be the important case, it should be important to get it done. I get that it is not going to be easy for them to beat all those good teams on their way but if they have a lucky draw and face easier opponents on their way to the finals then they could maybe have a chance.

When it comes down to a single game to win, I feel like Bayern has a better chance to play with their 100%, they look much more disciplined and they may get that win, so finals might be very important to them. Lets see how they look during the season itself and how they improve.
Its dominance in the Bundesliga is no longer in doubt, whereas Borussia Dortmund, which is thought to be able to break Munchen dominance, has also not succeeded in doing so. Regarding the Champions League competition, in general I agree with your point. It can be said that Munchen will go smoothly in the group phase, at least finishing in second place is enough to advance to the quarter-finals. If the quarter-finals are met with easy opponents, of course, the really tough opponents will be in the semi-finals and finals.

However, I have seen Bayern Munchen fail several times in the Champions League Final, even though this season they deserve to be on the favorites list. The addition of Harry Kane and Kim Min Jae is a form of FC Hollywood seriousness in winning the UCL trophy, but this cannot be a guarantee. I feel that Munchen was really strong in the UCL when they were still supported by Riberry, Robben and Lewandowski, after that Munchen looked normal.
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September 12, 2023, 10:27:17 AM
Guys only two groups are difficult to know who are gonna pass into the 16 round/phase.

And this two groups are B: Sevilla Arsenal PSV Lens, with Arsenal as a favorite, and the group F: PSG Dortmund Milan Newcastle,  in this one we dont ahve a clear favorite but seems like PSG its a step ahead and Newcaslte also.

In group B the favorite candidate is Arsenal, as we know this English club has added ammunition to strengthen its team squad. They are quite ready to play their matches in various competitions with a competitive squad, despite several of their players being injured. As for Sevilla, we can't be sure, especially if we refer to their performance in their domestic league competition. Bad results in matches can be a reference for how this team plays its matches in the Champions League competition. although, there is no definite guarantee about the quality of their play when playing their matches in this league.
Well, if Sevilla wants to qualify for the next round. At the very least, they have to beat Lens, who are performing poorly in their domestic league. plus, Sevilla must overthrow PSV. although it seems that PSV has a bigger chance if we refer to their performance in their domestic league.

In Group F, I can't even be sure how PSG will play the match. Even though they seem to be the favorite team, their opponents are not easy teams to beat. Milan, is currently performing quite impressively. while Dortmund cannot be underestimated, even though they are not showing good performance. but in fact, they are unbeaten in league competition. Even though they only won one of their three matches, the rest ended in a draw. well, the most unstable is Newcastle. experienced three defeats from the 4 matches they played. Nevertheless, every team we mentioned in this post. still have time, at least to prepare for the match later.
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September 12, 2023, 10:01:29 AM
To be honest Group F is the only group in this tournament I think any team that loses this Champions League would be a great miss, Newcastle had an amazing performance in the last season in the Premier League, especially in the last weeks of the season which made us think this team can even have a chance the Champions League, also Dortound even after losing the players they sold is still strong teams in Germany and they are usually on top of the table, PSG had many changes and now they are the hopping even win this tournament.
Every match in Group F will be very interesting so those who miss any of the Group F matches will miss out on a competitive match in the Champions League. With teams like PSG Newcastle Dortmund in Group F, you can imagine how competitive every match in Group F will be. Newcastle, who performed brilliantly last season, will surely perform well this season, while PSG or Dortmund can shine this season.  Group F teams who have watched hope they don't miss any Group F matches.
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September 12, 2023, 10:00:41 AM
Bayern is the absolute ruler in Germany and one of the giants of European football. They have reached the Champions League final 11 times. Regarding awards, only Real Madrid (13-time champion) and AC Milan (7-time winner) rank above them. Tuchel has prepared for his first season leading the Bundesliga champions, along with the new leadership of the German giant, understanding that they cannot be satisfied with last season and must change and upgrade themselves to become a team challenging for the Champions League once again. They showed their ambition when they were willing to spend a lot of money to bring Harry Kane and Kim Min-Jae to the club this season. This year's championship is difficult to escape their hands.
Some teams could be great at their own league but I do not see Bayern being able to win the UCL this season to be fair. City once again looks like the best team and should be the important case, it should be important to get it done. I get that it is not going to be easy for them to beat all those good teams on their way but if they have a lucky draw and face easier opponents on their way to the finals then they could maybe have a chance.

When it comes down to a single game to win, I feel like Bayern has a better chance to play with their 100%, they look much more disciplined and they may get that win, so finals might be very important to them. Lets see how they look during the season itself and how they improve.
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September 12, 2023, 09:32:06 AM
Guys only two groups are difficult to know who are gonna pass into the 16 round/phase.

And this two groups are B: Sevilla Arsenal PSV Lens, with Arsenal as a favorite, and the group F: PSG Dortmund Milan Newcastle,  in this one we dont ahve a clear favorite but seems like PSG its a step ahead and Newcaslte also.
In fact it is not difficult for these two groups to guess who will qualify for the round of 16 because we can look at the game statistics and also the performance of the teams to guess who is worthy and entitled to be the strongest.

In group B there are two possibilities that might be the strongest candidates to qualify namely between PSV and Arsenal but I tend to side more with Arsenal who will be the strongest and top for group B.

Meanwhile for group F it is clear that PSG will be the strongest to enter the top 16 because Dortmund cannot possibly beat PSG especially as Newcastle or Milan are still far below PSG ability to fight for the top position in this group phase.
Moreover PSG has used Mbappe again in every match so that they can have a sharp attack line and endanger every team that meets them.
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September 12, 2023, 09:11:54 AM
Guys only two groups are difficult to know who are gonna pass into the 16 round/phase.

And this two groups are B: Sevilla Arsenal PSV Lens, with Arsenal as a favorite, and the group F: PSG Dortmund Milan Newcastle,  in this one we dont ahve a clear favorite but seems like PSG its a step ahead and Newcaslte also.
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September 12, 2023, 08:46:36 AM
Copenhagen is surely having good team but right now difference of quality is widening between many leagues as well which is surely creating problems for the many top class teams which are having good record into their own leagues but still right now most chances we have no positive result for the Copenhagen in this group because they are going to face all three toughest teams which are having much better performance from them and their players are also doing good job after start of this new season.

Bayern Munich is surely can give them tough lesson in both league matches with they have good chance against other teams at home but still this could be not enough for them to go into next round or have any chance for the Europa League as well.
I think that Bayern will be the undisputed leaders of this group, but as for Manchester United, I’m not sure that it will be so easy for them to take second place, given how weakly they started this season and their internal problems with the players. Therefore, I think that Copenhagen and Galatasaray can try to compete for second place and for the playoffs.
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September 12, 2023, 08:08:09 AM
Maguire and Evans are too slow and they will be dead points in Manchester United defense system when facing with young and very speedy attacking players of Bayern Munich. Hope that Manchester United will not use both central defenders in the match.
I don't think it would be possible for Erik Ten Hag to use these two defenders in such an important match against Bayern Munich. Manchester United must continue to use its two main pillars for defense, namely Varane and Martinez. We know that the best options currently are only these two defenders and if there are other options, maybe Lindelof can replace one of them.

But I hope that not only the Red Devils defenders will perform well, but Onana will have to give a good performance and make lots of saves in the match. What's more, we can only hope that Manchester United will not lose badly in this match because after all, Bayern Munich is still one of the strong candidates to win the Champions League title every season.
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September 12, 2023, 04:28:12 AM
The chance is pretty small for utd to win the game against bayern. Utd will be playing in allianz arena and ten hag's club will have faced kane's squad. I wonder how many goals will be conceded during the match.


Bayern will not even miss an opportunity to get 4 points by playing at home.
Bayern Munich will play with their target to get 3 points from Manchester United and they can do it. They are stronger than Manchester United and even got Harry Kane to improve their attacking power in this summer. The poor performances of some Germany players in latest friendly matches of Germany national team can raise uncertainty in Bayern Munich but even so they are still a stronger team than the opponent.

Personally I think Bayern Munich will dominate and win this match. I have watched every match of Manchester United this season, and I am very bored. Their performance was not satisfactory. Players cannot be confident against big teams. The team lost against Arsenal and Tottenham. It is not possible to beat a team like Bayern Munich with such a performance.
Also, the Bayern Munich team is in a very good rhythm right now. Especially their main striker Harry Kane has adapted well to the team. So Munich's performance accelerated. Of course they will play with the aim of winning against Manchester United. And I think Bayern Munich will play attacking strategy from the beginning of this match.
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September 11, 2023, 10:41:20 PM
Bayern is the absolute ruler in Germany and one of the giants of European football. They have reached the Champions League final 11 times. Regarding awards, only Real Madrid (13-time champion) and AC Milan (7-time winner) rank above them. Tuchel has prepared for his first season leading the Bundesliga champions, along with the new leadership of the German giant, understanding that they cannot be satisfied with last season and must change and upgrade themselves to become a team challenging for the Champions League once again. They showed their ambition when they were willing to spend a lot of money to bring Harry Kane and Kim Min-Jae to the club this season. This year's championship is difficult to escape their hands.
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September 11, 2023, 08:09:51 PM
Not sure about Man United in the first game against Munich. I'm not sure they can bring points. With this kind of situation, Man United looks weak. Some players were injured and got some cases. It looks like Man United is a goat who came to the Tiger stable. They need a miracle to get just one point. But to qualify in the knockout phase, Man United's chances are still very open.
Even Man United has no problems with injured players and Antony's case, Man United seems still difficult to get points. The first match will be in Bayern home, Bayern players are also in their best form. Since they signed Harry Kane, Bayern looks stronger and they return to be very productive teams. They always won the match with more than 2 goals. It is very different with Man United situation, they are not in the good form lately. They only won 2 matches from 4 first matches in EPL. It means they are not in a good situation.
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Manchester united has problem with injured players. The club feel so difficult in finding a proper strategy when there are so many important players were injured. This news was a few weeks old but it has proven how manchester united was struggling in facing the criris on its mid and defend.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manutd-shaw-mount-injury-tenhag-30783024
That's why ten hag was let meguire to play in against arsenal. It's a hard decision for ten hag caused by he knew how garbage the quality that owned by meguire and evans.
I never imagine that how ten hag was putting those players in the last game against arsenal. It makes me feel lose my confidence with united to face bayern with terrible defenders.


I agree that Man United has a small chance to get points. However, we don't know how they can deal with the current situation. It is not impossible that Man United to get points if Bayern Munich feels nervous during the match.  Wink
Playing away against bayern made me think MU had almost zero chance to win. I would like to take draw or lose as result from that match.
Playing against bayern in allianz arena was so difficult for the club to get the points. The performances from the defensive line of manchester united must be the major concern by ten hag.

MU will be also facing brighton.
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September 11, 2023, 07:30:55 PM
The chance is pretty small for utd to win the game against bayern. Utd will be playing in allianz arena and ten hag's club will have faced kane's squad. I wonder how many goals will be conceded during the match.


Bayern will not even miss an opportunity to get 4 points by playing at home.
Bayern Munich will play with their target to get 3 points from Manchester United and they can do it. They are stronger than Manchester United and even got Harry Kane to improve their attacking power in this summer. The poor performances of some Germany players in latest friendly matches of Germany national team can raise uncertainty in Bayern Munich but even so they are still a stronger team than the opponent.

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Manchester united at the risk now caused by the club potentially lose against bayern. It must be noted that if MU will be conceded a lot of goals if ten hag will be using meguire and evans as starting line up.
Those guys are terrible defenders. Ten hag needs to find another option to face bayern. Megurei was not as good as when he used to be.
Maguire and Evans are too slow and they will be dead points in Manchester United defense system when facing with young and very speedy attacking players of Bayern Munich. Hope that Manchester United will not use both central defenders in the match.
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September 11, 2023, 06:57:16 PM

PSV is not a favorite against Arsenal, especially if Arsenal plays at home. Arsenal have performed well at the start of this season even though they have also struggled to win their last 4 matches in the Premier League. This will be a good match for both of them considering their meeting record in the last 4 Champions League matches. Arsenal and PSV both have 1 win and 2 draws and 1 loss each, so this will be a tough match for both.

In the champions league; there are no favorites in the group stage; anyone can beat anyone, anyone can defeat anyone. Also in the champions league; there is nothing like league form, you can be on a 20 game winning streak in your league; and get defeated in the champions league. Arsenal needs a top performance to compete in the champions league.

The performance of the team in the domestic league also has a key effect in determining how well it will perform there sometimes or most times too. Although, in other circumstances, the management of those teams prioritise one league over another based on how far they believe their team can reach and go without losing from both sides during the acquisition process. Some managers are also set targets to meet before the end of the season, so they prefer to focus more on what they're requested to do in order to keep their job rather than focusing and spending their efforts on both sides. Achieving both could still have helped, but some people don't want to take the chance to risk that, and it won’t be cool to lose the job at the end of the day while trying to impress the team’s owners.
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September 11, 2023, 06:41:31 PM
Not sure about Man United in the first game against Munich. I'm not sure they can bring points. With this kind of situation, Man United looks weak. Some players were injured and got some cases. It looks like Man United is a goat who came to the Tiger stable. They need a miracle to get just one point. But to qualify in the knockout phase, Man United's chances are still very open.
The chance is pretty small for utd to win the game against bayern. Utd will be playing in allianz arena and ten hag's club will have faced kane's squad. I wonder how many goals will be conceded during the match.


Bayern will not even miss an opportunity to get 4 points by playing at home. Manchester united at the risk now caused by the club potentially lose against bayern. It must be noted that if MU will be conceded a lot of goals if ten hag will be using meguire and evans as starting line up.
Those guys are terrible defenders. Ten hag needs to find another option to face bayern. Megurei was not as good as when he used to be.

BTTS is making sense for this match but im sure if bayern will be scoring first rather than united. I can't even imagine if antony will not come to play against bayern. It's a disaster for manchester united at this moment.
Utd faces another horrible situation when it must be playing against bayern in the first match of group qualifier.
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September 11, 2023, 06:28:06 PM
Not sure about Man United in the first game against Munich. I'm not sure they can bring points. With this kind of situation, Man United looks weak. Some players were injured and got some cases. It looks like Man United is a goat who came to the Tiger stable. They need a miracle to get just one point. But to qualify in the knockout phase, Man United's chances are still very open.

Manchester united are at their weakest form because of all the injuries they have but Bayern Munich on the other hand are on fire especially after signing Harry Kane this window and they'll be looking to compete for the champion league this season. Manchester united are just there to complete the teams for the tournament and aren't title contenders. There isn't much history between this two clubs as the last time they played against each other was a friendly that Bayern Munich won although that doesn't mean that Bayern Munich won't be having the upper hand in this feature but we'll have to wait on the first game back from the international breaks to be played for we to examine both teams probability of winning based on their mentality in league games.

To be honest Group F is the only group in this tournament I think any team that loses this Champions League would be a great miss, Newcastle had an amazing performance in the last season in the Premier League, especially in the last weeks of the season which made us think this team can even have a chance the Champions League, also Dortound even after losing the players they sold is still strong teams in Germany and they are usually on top of the table, PSG had many changes and now they are the hopping even win this tournament.

Group F also has favorites like other groups, I don't believe the opportunity to advance is opened to all teams because we have those with lots of  experience in the tournament then we have Newcastle that are just joining the league. Beside they aren't the same Newcastle that we saw last season, the season is just beginning and they have already last three games and are seating in the 14th position. The champions league is going to be a distraction for Newcastle this season and they mightn't get anything out of this season just as they did last season except qualifying for the champion league. It's already obvious that Newcastle won't win the champion league and neither will they go far and it will be a surprise if they actually shock everyone.
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September 11, 2023, 03:51:45 PM
Not sure about Man United in the first game against Munich. I'm not sure they can bring points. With this kind of situation, Man United looks weak. Some players were injured and got some cases. It looks like Man United is a goat who came to the Tiger stable. They need a miracle to get just one point. But to qualify in the knockout phase, Man United's chances are still very open.
Even Man United has no problems with injured players and Antony's case, Man United seems still difficult to get points. The first match will be in Bayern home, Bayern players are also in their best form. Since they signed Harry Kane, Bayern looks stronger and they return to be very productive teams. They always won the match with more than 2 goals. It is very different with Man United situation, they are not in the good form lately. They only won 2 matches from 4 first matches in EPL. It means they are not in a good situation.

I agree that Man United has a small chance to get points. However, we don't know how they can deal with the current situation. It is not impossible that Man United to get points if Bayern Munich feels nervous during the match.  Wink

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