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Quote from: Litzki1990 on September 09, 2023, 11:12:59 AM

Quote from: MAAManda on September 09, 2023, 09:34:06 AM

Yes, Barcelona is lucky enough to be in the same group as Royal Antwerp, Porto and Shakhtar Donetsk, ideally they will get through the group phase easily, but the reality is that we don't know whether Barcelona can get through easily or not.

September 20 they will have their first UCL match and face Royal Antwerp, playing at home will certainly be the basis of their motivation, 3 points are in sight it seems.

Royal Antwer is a very easy opponent for Barcelona and Barcelona should get a very easy win in this match. If Barcelona do not make any big mistakes against Royal Antwerp in the Champions League, Barcelona will definitely win this match by a big margin. Barcelona are very lucky because they have an easy opponent where other teams would be up against tough authorities. As much as we think Royal Antwerp is an easy opponent, Barcelona should take this team as a difficult opponent because if taken as an easy opponent, then Barcelona will definitely perform poorly, as a result of which Barcelona will lose the chance to do well in this match. Opponents are never easy, opponents are always hard to beat. People who take opponents easy can never do well.

It should be like that, even Royal Antwerp don't have a good record for the start of their season in the Pro League, from 5 matches they could only collect 8 points which means they lost 7 points from the full points they should have gotten.

The unique fact here is that this meeting is the first meeting of the two teams, so any result can happen because we don't have at least 1 reference to use as an indicator. It seems that I would prefer to bet on the Handicap bet for Royal Antwerp.

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Quote from: hahay on September 09, 2023, 08:33:08 AM

Anyway, PSG still has no guarantee to be able to get good results in the Champion League. No matter the current PSG coach and also the current PSG squad because anyway, just to compete well in the domestic league also PSG is still difficult to obtain. Especially in the Champions League, which basically all teams have great efforts to get good results. Therefore, I personally still not sure about PSG in the Champions League, because just relying on Mbappe alone is also a mistake.

Indeed, everyone knows that and PSG is nothing more than an ordinary team in the Champions League. So far, we know that PSG only spends money to build its squad for matches in the Champions League, but its progress often stops when it reaches the round of 16. I think if this season we only continue to rely on Mbappe, it won't be enough and at least PSG must reorganize their squad this season so they can adapt better and achieve better results. Of course, with the new signings from PSG who prioritize the players the club needs, I think it will change the flow of PSG's game even though the impact is currently still quite small.

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Quote from: MAAManda on September 09, 2023, 09:34:06 AM

Quote from: rozak on September 09, 2023, 08:53:51 AM

this season Xavi should be lucky enough not to be in the hell group. I think getting through the group phase is quite easy for Barca, they are the favorites to qualify. especially with the player material that Xavi has in the current Barca squad. of course, even City should consider Barca. unlike last season, Xavi failed, but they won't repeat that this season.
Xavi has prepared everything well, as well as his request to the club to bring in several important players at this time. I think those who have just been brought in by Barca will help the team in the Champions League.

Yes, Barcelona is lucky enough to be in the same group as Royal Antwerp, Porto and Shakhtar Donetsk, ideally they will get through the group phase easily, but the reality is that we don't know whether Barcelona can get through easily or not.

September 20 they will have their first UCL match and face Royal Antwerp, playing at home will certainly be the basis of their motivation, 3 points are in sight it seems.

Royal Antwer is a very easy opponent for Barcelona and Barcelona should get a very easy win in this match. If Barcelona do not make any big mistakes against Royal Antwerp in the Champions League, Barcelona will definitely win this match by a big margin. Barcelona are very lucky because they have an easy opponent where other teams would be up against tough authorities. As much as we think Royal Antwerp is an easy opponent, Barcelona should take this team as a difficult opponent because if taken as an easy opponent, then Barcelona will definitely perform poorly, as a result of which Barcelona will lose the chance to do well in this match. Opponents are never easy, opponents are always hard to beat. People who take opponents easy can never do well.

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With the composition of the group they are in, I would easily say that Barcelona will qualify from the group stage and will most likely be accompanied by Leipzig. Barcelona look much better prepared this season than last. It can be said that the previous season they were still groping for their strength, because rising from the downturn was something that was not easy. and they amazingly managed to become champions when they had just come out of a phase where they had to fight to be in the top 4 in the previous season. and I think I will see them in the next round.

The Barcelona team will play at their best to do well in the Champions League. Barcelona's team performed very poorly in the Champions League last season. This season coach Xavi has added some new players to the squad who will look to create a strong team with a lot of experience in the new equation so that Barcelona can do well in the Champions League.

Logically with their failure last season they don't want to do the same thing this season, especially since their preparations were clearly better last season. Last season where they had to find players for their foundation, and now they just need to complete what they have built last season. Based on all that, of course they must be in the target will also be even higher. Last season maybe I personally did not set a target for them, because I know what they have experienced, it is a very hard job for Xavi to build a team from the bottom.

Talking about logic, it would make more sense if all clubs definitely had the same thought of not wanting to experience bad problems again like last season and I think Xavi is a very reliable coach who is known for providing tactics to all Barca players so it is not surprising that and continue to improve Barca performance to be able to occupy first place in the standings and win the title in LaLiga and try to maximize performance in the Champions League match.
It seems like there is hope this season if Barca is in a group with clubs that are not too strong so that Barcelona chance of leading their group is much greater.

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Quote from: naira on September 09, 2023, 07:21:56 AM

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Only Mbappe is not enough to make a strong team and PSG need more than him to have a strong attacking system and a strong team need more player resources. Asensio and Dembele came as replacements for Messi and Neymar but those players won't contribute too much for PSG proactive defense at their frontline. It is not important in matches with weak opponents but is very important when facing against biggest opponents in Europe. Losing a ball and don't chase opponent players to stop their counter attacking at the frontline, it will cause nightmare for PSG defenders and goalkeepers.

Isn't it true that when there were many star players at PSG, their results in the UCL were not good? So maybe making Mbappe the main center will be easier to manage.

Galtier was always putting mbappe as the main center. Mbappe played in the same position as this time. I saw no contribution has come from asensio while dembele is still rarely making contribution to the club. I can't tolerate it if PSG needs more time to build its chemistry but it must be done quickly. PSG will meet some strong clubs in upcoming matches. The club was also being placed in the difficult group as well. It will be hard times for PSG to beat another club and improve its performance at the same time.

Quote from: naira on September 09, 2023, 07:21:56 AM

The current PSG coach is quite experienced and knows how to sail in the UCL competition. Asensio and Dembele don't need to be substitutes for Messi and Neymar because being themselves and playing with their abilities will be much better. There's no need to burden yourself just because of Messi and Neymar's previous positions. If PSG wants to make changes then the solution is to move on and be confident in their abilities without having to rely on the legacy of Messi or Neymar.

Asensio and dembele have already speculated to fill messi and neymar's positions. These guys have not been expected to be the same as messi and neymar. There will be only 1 neymar and messi.
The new club needs time to adapt. PSG is still having mbappe to rely on with.

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Manchester United first match in the UCL it was against Bayern Munich, I'm not too sure Manchester United can get points in that match even if it's only one, considering that Ten Hag squad in several away matches in the EPL their performance has drop. Bayern Munich, which this season has improved in defensive line and attack line, will make it very difficult for Ten Hag to think of the perfect tactics in that match. Even, Bookie currently gives odds for Bayern @1.59 while for Manchester United @5.20, in that match Bayern Munich is the favorite to win.

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Quote from: slapper on September 09, 2023, 08:15:24 AM

Under Ten Hag, the team has struggled. They won two times in summer and gained 6 points. Ten Hag's moves often fucking terrified us. The trade window's lack of good players is a major issue. Seven goals in four games have plagued the defense. Ten Hag's last loss to Arsenal showed that their plans aren't working. The Champions League appears to be struggling. Bayern Munich is in the same group as Galatasaray, making it difficult to beat them. I think management must fire Ten Hag if he can't steer the ship. Fans don't think things will improve, and the future seems bad

If Man United continues to experience a decline in performance, Ten Hag will certainly see posters of his name in the fans stands asking him to leave. However, I think the addition of Sofyan Amrabat will make a contribution to the Red Devils squad, the duet that Ten Hag wants in midfield with Casemiro will come true. When Mason Mount is available again, I think United will return to stability.

If they can be consistent in the EPL for the next match, they can achieve the runner-up position in Group A in the Champions League. With the condition that Galatasaray and Copenhagen must be conquered first.

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Quote from: hahay on September 09, 2023, 08:33:08 AM

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Quote from: BlackBoss_ on September 07, 2023, 10:30:57 PM

Only Mbappe is not enough to make a strong team and PSG need more than him to have a strong attacking system and a strong team need more player resources. Asensio and Dembele came as replacements for Messi and Neymar but those players won't contribute too much for PSG proactive defense at their frontline. It is not important in matches with weak opponents but is very important when facing against biggest opponents in Europe. Losing a ball and don't chase opponent players to stop their counter attacking at the frontline, it will cause nightmare for PSG defenders and goalkeepers.

Isn't it true that when there were many star players at PSG, their results in the UCL were not good? So maybe making Mbappe the main center will be easier to manage. The current PSG coach is quite experienced and knows how to sail in the UCL competition. Asensio and Dembele don't need to be substitutes for Messi and Neymar because being themselves and playing with their abilities will be much better. There's no need to burden yourself just because of Messi and Neymar's previous positions. If PSG wants to make changes then the solution is to move on and be confident in their abilities without having to rely on the legacy of Messi or Neymar.

When Lionel Messi was in the PSG team, the coach of the team could not play well by maintaining his positioning. Currently the team is not in the best condition. It remains to be seen how far the team can progress in the Champions League.

Anyway, PSG still has no guarantee to be able to get good results in the Champion League. No matter the current PSG coach and also the current PSG squad because anyway, just to compete well in the domestic league also PSG is still difficult to obtain. Especially in the Champions League, which basically all teams have great efforts to get good results. Therefore, I personally still not sure about PSG in the Champions League, because just relying on Mbappe alone is also a mistake.

Mbappé is a good player, but he is not experienced and mature enough to be the leader to carry PSG to good results in the Champions League. As for coach Luis Enrique, he should focus on the domestic tournament, and then he should continue to dream of the Champion League.
Very few people can solve PSG's difficult problem. Coach Pep Guardiola will have the answer to help PSG win the Champions League. One more coach can do that, and I want to mention that is Zinedine Zidane. PSG's leadership should consider this: even if they bring in stars, they are still puzzle pieces that cannot be put together.

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Quote from: rozak on September 09, 2023, 08:53:51 AM

this season Xavi should be lucky enough not to be in the hell group. I think getting through the group phase is quite easy for Barca, they are the favorites to qualify. especially with the player material that Xavi has in the current Barca squad. of course, even City should consider Barca. unlike last season, Xavi failed, but they won't repeat that this season.
Xavi has prepared everything well, as well as his request to the club to bring in several important players at this time. I think those who have just been brought in by Barca will help the team in the Champions League.

Yes, Barcelona is lucky enough to be in the same group as Royal Antwerp, Porto and Shakhtar Donetsk, ideally they will get through the group phase easily, but the reality is that we don't know whether Barcelona can get through easily or not.

September 20 they will have their first UCL match and face Royal Antwerp, playing at home will certainly be the basis of their motivation, 3 points are in sight it seems.

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Quote from: rozak on September 09, 2023, 08:53:51 AM

Xavi has prepared everything well, as well as his request to the club to bring in several important players at this time. I think those who have just been brought in by Barca will help the team in the Champions League.

Yes, because Xavi can't possibly expect Lewandowski to always be in their front line, considering that perhaps his increasing age is causing his performance to decline a little so that he no longer produces goals for Barcelona, but on the other hand, Barcelona still has several players in the front line that they can rely on. Apart from Lewandowski, at least Barcelona's attack power can be sharper.

At least in this group, Barcelona didn't find it difficult to meet difficult clubs, Porto and Shaktar as well as Antwerp could also give a surprise and maybe it would make Barcelona a little difficult, because we know that the UCL championship is very full of struggle so clubs that are not seeded could give a surprise. Also, I don't want to say too soon that Barcelona can qualify for Group H in the UCL this season, but I hope that Xavi can organize their squad players so they can be consistent in the domestic league as well as the UCL later and maintain their stamina.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on September 09, 2023, 05:49:54 AM

Barcelona's overall performance last season was not consistent. If they wanted to target both the La Liga and Champions League titles, they wouldn't have won either. It is very difficult to maintain consistency in both of these places. So Barcelona's goal was only the La Liga title . We have seen their poor performance in the Champions League. But this season the scenario is different. The Barcelona team is quite strong this season. Players are able to perform very well. Xavi has been able to stabilize and strengthen this team. It is expected that Barcelona will not disappoint us in the Champions League this season. We will see a good performance from Barcelona.

Barcelona were eliminated in the group stage last season due to their inconsistent performance. Their game seemed to have no direction, the players between the lines were not connected well. Every team always targets to win trophies in all competitions, but there are obstacles that make the team have to wave goodbye and go home early due to inconsistency. This season Barcelona will try their luck again after last season's failure, the players Xavi has are very good, he has been equipped with a complete squad this season.

This season is Xavi's proof in the Champions League, Barcelona joins a very profitable group, the potential for Barcelona to qualify for the next round is very large. I don't know how far Barcelona will be able to survive in the UCL season, Xavi must be able to manage Barcelona to become a team to be reckoned with this season.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on September 09, 2023, 08:46:42 AM

Xavi knew that Manchester City players have outstanding qualities, so Barcelona recruited some of them. Gundogan and cancelo have become parts of barcelona right now. Xavi knew that if he must be improving the team a lot to compete at the top competition in the european continent.
This is also the reason why xavi was also strengthening its attacking line even though the club was still in the financial trouble at this moment. Barcelona was losing in the group stage last season.
Xavi is just trying to make sure barcelona will not repeat the same mistake again for the second time. Despite doing better in La Liga than Real Madrid, Barcelona always exits UCL earlier. Xavi is just trying to find the main problem that barcelona had horrible performance in UCL.
Playing UCL is very important for barcelona caused by it will be also helping the club financially due to the big reward offered by playing in UCL.

this season Xavi should be lucky enough not to be in the hell group. I think getting through the group phase is quite easy for Barca, they are the favorites to qualify. especially with the player material that Xavi has in the current Barca squad. of course, even City should consider Barca. unlike last season, Xavi failed, but they won't repeat that this season.
Xavi has prepared everything well, as well as his request to the club to bring in several important players at this time. I think those who have just been brought in by Barca will help the team in the Champions League.

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Quote from: Winterfrost on September 09, 2023, 06:22:24 AM

Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on September 09, 2023, 05:49:54 AM

Barcelona's overall performance last season was not consistent. If they wanted to target both the La Liga and Champions League titles, they wouldn't have won either. It is very difficult to maintain consistency in both of these places. So Barcelona's goal was only the La Liga title . We have seen their poor performance in the Champions League. But this season the scenario is different. The Barcelona team is quite strong this season. Players are able to perform very well. Xavi has been able to stabilize and strengthen this team. It is expected that Barcelona will not disappoint us in the Champions League this season. We will see a good performance from Barcelona.

I am sure that the team is working much on improving their performance this season in champions league. Last season they weren't much of a threat to other club. Seems the players play much on the peach and most player gets injured. I think what the team needs is someone who will motivate them on the peach and increase their anxiety to paly better.

Xavi knew that Manchester City players have outstanding qualities, so Barcelona recruited some of them. Gundogan and cancelo have become parts of barcelona right now. Xavi knew that if he must be improving the team a lot to compete at the top competition in the european continent.
This is also the reason why xavi was also strengthening its attacking line even though the club was still in the financial trouble at this moment. Barcelona was losing in the group stage last season.
Xavi is just trying to make sure barcelona will not repeat the same mistake again for the second time. Despite doing better in La Liga than Real Madrid, Barcelona always exits UCL earlier. Xavi is just trying to find the main problem that barcelona had horrible performance in UCL.
Playing UCL is very important for barcelona caused by it will be also helping the club financially due to the big reward offered by playing in UCL.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on September 08, 2023, 02:50:20 PM

Group A is really challenging for especially Copenhagen and Galatasaray. We haven't seen any match in the group stage yet maybe but I'm theoretically speaking now. Bayern Munich have a big potential to win all of the matches. Manchester United are a little unbalanced these days. Actually a little wouldn't be the right definition because they didn't have a good start to the season in the EPL. Lastly they lost to Arsenal by the goals they conceded in the stoppage time.

Something is going wrong with them and I wonder if they can solve an important part of their problems until the group matches start. If they don't then this group might turn out to be really interesting.

This is a group that is not a big highlight for football fans, this does not mean that there are no big teams in it, but it would be a little easier for Bayern Munich or Man United to finish in first or second place. Interestingly, we will see who will be able to come out on top of the group and I'm sure almost many people say the German giants will take the lead. When talking about competitions, almost many of us always highlight the domestic league as a basis for predictions, but we forget that there is something we might miss and I am sure Man United also has the same chance of finishing in first place and that is the same as Bayern Munich.

Man United's problem actually lies in the defense line because several players are still injured and if they cannot play in the group stage then I am sure it will be difficult for them to compete as runners-up or group winners. Bayern Munich seems to be a little safe in the battle because they have a balanced quality of players at the moment, so there won't be any big obstacles for them.

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Quote from: Yurkov on September 09, 2023, 08:21:39 AM

Quote from: naira on September 09, 2023, 07:21:56 AM

Quote from: BlackBoss_ on September 07, 2023, 10:30:57 PM

Only Mbappe is not enough to make a strong team and PSG need more than him to have a strong attacking system and a strong team need more player resources. Asensio and Dembele came as replacements for Messi and Neymar but those players won't contribute too much for PSG proactive defense at their frontline. It is not important in matches with weak opponents but is very important when facing against biggest opponents in Europe. Losing a ball and don't chase opponent players to stop their counter attacking at the frontline, it will cause nightmare for PSG defenders and goalkeepers.

Isn't it true that when there were many star players at PSG, their results in the UCL were not good? So maybe making Mbappe the main center will be easier to manage. The current PSG coach is quite experienced and knows how to sail in the UCL competition. Asensio and Dembele don't need to be substitutes for Messi and Neymar because being themselves and playing with their abilities will be much better. There's no need to burden yourself just because of Messi and Neymar's previous positions. If PSG wants to make changes then the solution is to move on and be confident in their abilities without having to rely on the legacy of Messi or Neymar.

When Lionel Messi was in the PSG team, the coach of the team could not play well by maintaining his positioning. Currently the team is not in the best condition. It remains to be seen how far the team can progress in the Champions League.

Anyway, PSG still has no guarantee to be able to get good results in the Champion League. No matter the current PSG coach and also the current PSG squad because anyway, just to compete well in the domestic league also PSG is still difficult to obtain. Especially in the Champions League, which basically all teams have great efforts to get good results. Therefore, I personally still not sure about PSG in the Champions League, because just relying on Mbappe alone is also a mistake.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 09, 2023, 05:12:21 AM

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With the composition of the group they are in, I would easily say that Barcelona will qualify from the group stage and will most likely be accompanied by Leipzig. Barcelona look much better prepared this season than last. It can be said that the previous season they were still groping for their strength, because rising from the downturn was something that was not easy. and they amazingly managed to become champions when they had just come out of a phase where they had to fight to be in the top 4 in the previous season. and I think I will see them in the next round.

The Barcelona team will play at their best to do well in the Champions League. Barcelona's team performed very poorly in the Champions League last season. This season coach Xavi has added some new players to the squad who will look to create a strong team with a lot of experience in the new equation so that Barcelona can do well in the Champions League.

Logically with their failure last season they don't want to do the same thing this season, especially since their preparations were clearly better last season. Last season where they had to find players for their foundation, and now they just need to complete what they have built last season. Based on all that, of course they must be in the target will also be even higher. Last season maybe I personally did not set a target for them, because I know what they have experienced, it is a very hard job for Xavi to build a team from the bottom.

True but we are not yet seeing how strong barcelona in UCL. barcelona was unable to pass the group stage last season caused by it was losing against intermilan at the last match.

Barcelona needs to show how good it was. People are still feeling doubt if they have not yet seen the real performance from barcelona. I don't wanna see barcelona as underrated team. Barcelona was a strong team last season in la liga but it has opposite performance when played in champion league. We can only argue based on our logic if barcelona will not try to repeat the same mistake last season but we can't sure how strong barcelona is right now.

I have been waiting for the first match of barcelona in UCL. I must admit barcelona was really strong in the domestic league but its mentality will be full tested when it comes to the champion league.
I can't wait to see the debut of yamal at UCL as well. He is such a talented player,

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 09, 2023, 05:12:21 AM

Quote from: LordShanken on September 08, 2023, 10:47:10 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 08, 2023, 10:36:23 AM

With the composition of the group they are in, I would easily say that Barcelona will qualify from the group stage and will most likely be accompanied by Leipzig. Barcelona look much better prepared this season than last. It can be said that the previous season they were still groping for their strength, because rising from the downturn was something that was not easy. and they amazingly managed to become champions when they had just come out of a phase where they had to fight to be in the top 4 in the previous season. and I think I will see them in the next round.

The Barcelona team will play at their best to do well in the Champions League. Barcelona's team performed very poorly in the Champions League last season. This season coach Xavi has added some new players to the squad who will look to create a strong team with a lot of experience in the new equation so that Barcelona can do well in the Champions League.

Logically with their failure last season they don't want to do the same thing this season, especially since their preparations were clearly better last season. Last season where they had to find players for their foundation, and now they just need to complete what they have built last season. Based on all that, of course they must be in the target will also be even higher. Last season maybe I personally did not set a target for them, because I know what they have experienced, it is a very hard job for Xavi to build a team from the bottom.

Last season Barcelona performed very poorly in the Champions League, this season surely we will not see a repeat of last season from Barcelona side. Not saying Barcelona will be champions but Barcelona are the team they need to perform as per the team we expect from them this season. As strong as Barcelona's attack is, their defense is much weaker, which could lead to Xavi's side falling far behind in the Champions League. Xavi will certainly plan what he needs to do to get the best out of his team but Xavi will still need to pay a bit more attention to his own defense line. Because if the defense is not strong, then no matter how many goals you score, the goals will be worthless.

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Quote from: naira on September 09, 2023, 07:21:56 AM

Quote from: BlackBoss_ on September 07, 2023, 10:30:57 PM

Only Mbappe is not enough to make a strong team and PSG need more than him to have a strong attacking system and a strong team need more player resources. Asensio and Dembele came as replacements for Messi and Neymar but those players won't contribute too much for PSG proactive defense at their frontline. It is not important in matches with weak opponents but is very important when facing against biggest opponents in Europe. Losing a ball and don't chase opponent players to stop their counter attacking at the frontline, it will cause nightmare for PSG defenders and goalkeepers.

Isn't it true that when there were many star players at PSG, their results in the UCL were not good? So maybe making Mbappe the main center will be easier to manage. The current PSG coach is quite experienced and knows how to sail in the UCL competition. Asensio and Dembele don't need to be substitutes for Messi and Neymar because being themselves and playing with their abilities will be much better. There's no need to burden yourself just because of Messi and Neymar's previous positions. If PSG wants to make changes then the solution is to move on and be confident in their abilities without having to rely on the legacy of Messi or Neymar.

When Lionel Messi was in the PSG team, the coach of the team could not play well by maintaining his positioning. Currently the team is not in the best condition. It remains to be seen how far the team can progress in the Champions League.

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Quote from: klidex on September 08, 2023, 01:43:03 PM

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Quote from: MuffinMaster on September 08, 2023, 11:41:12 AM

Manchester United team is performing well in some matches which seems much better than last season. The coach of the team is probably applying new techniques on the players. This has improved the team tremendously.

What?

, DO you see football man? Manchester United its playing BAD, after one seasonwith Ten Hag h cant make the team play good, and they are playing worst right now, against Arsenal they dont make anything, asides of the goal and the disallowed one, they play like a little team, agains Wolves they only win 1-00 and with a non concedeed clearly penalty in favour of Wolves, they lose 2-0 agains totenham ,a nd they win after being 2-0 down against Nothingham, so we can see they can make good games against bigger teams.

Sometimes someone only speculate about club without looking at the overall performance of this club which is very bad which only got 6 points from 2 win since the start of summer and Ten Hag as coach seems to have failed little when yesterday transfer could not get quality player and other problems Ten Hag also seen very bad when giving very inappropriate tactics so that there were no changes in several matches even when compared to last season Manchstr united performance was much better when it was nearing the end last season.
Even so, the fans still hope that coach Ten Hag will be able to bring about changes the near future, but if he fail in the premier league and also the Ravens in the champions league, I think the hope is that Ten hag will be fired.

Under Ten Hag, the team has struggled. They won two times in summer and gained 6 points. Ten Hag's moves often fucking terrified us. The trade window's lack of good players is a major issue. Seven goals in four games have plagued the defense. Ten Hag's last loss to Arsenal showed that their plans aren't working. The Champions League appears to be struggling. Bayern Munich is in the same group as Galatasaray, making it difficult to beat them. I think management must fire Ten Hag if he can't steer the ship. Fans don't think things will improve, and the future seems bad

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Quote from: marcous on September 09, 2023, 05:23:14 AM

If you look at the composition of group A, it is clear that Bayern Munchen can win the group. because Man United, Galatasaray and Copenhagen are not a big problem for them. However, if in the quarter-finals Munchen meets Madrid, Man City or Inter Milan, of course their progress to the final will be very difficult. We know that after the transfer market movements, almost all clubs have made changes, the results in the domestic league cannot yet be fully used as a benchmark for moving forward in the UCL, I think.

The composition of the teams in Group A of the Champions League is a composition that is very easy to predict because not all teams have nearly the same strength so almost everyone can guess which team will progress to the next round. It looks like Group A will not be a fierce group in the fight for the group champion and runner-up positions, because only Bayern Munich and Manchester United have more potential to get first and second place in the group.

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I think Madrid has a better chance of progressing to the final this season, for Man City I have a little doubt after the departure of several key players when they won the UCL last season.

It is still too early to confirm this now, because in general there are many teams that have made changes so that it is not only Real Madrid that has the opportunity to advance to the Champions League final this season. Manchester City actually still has a chance to advance to the final if Manchester City can be consistent enough from the round of 16 onwards.

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