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Quote from: borovichok on September 08, 2023, 03:45:57 AM

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Bayern Munich and Manchester United is the strongest teams on group A so it's hard for Galatasaray to compete against these teams but everything still possible to happend because group stage hasn't to begin yet and if Galatasaray can able to beat Manchester United i think there is a good chances for them to qualified but indeed this is really hard because during their participant in champion league turkish teams always be recognized as mediocre team and the most realistic position for Galatasaray probably 3rd places however if i am not mistaken Galatasaray have been advances to round of 16 on 2013 and at that time they were fight against Schalke and Galatasaray were successfully to advances to quarterfinal but unfortunately their journey have to stopped on that stage because they lose from Real Madrid

UEFA Champions League group draws is now available, It do favours some team and didn't favour some. Thomas Tuchel and Erik Ten Hag would be delighted to confront each other in group stage games, because the knot is easy to weave. Manchester United and Bayern Munich meet in the opening game; either side will win and collect three points, however I believe the Red Devils and Bavarians are going to find the next game easier. They are the only elite clubs from Group A who would qualify. I have no worries about my forecasts because the level of performance of these clubs is higher than that of Copenhagen and Galatasaray.

The group is a lot more complicated for Manchester United than for Bayern Munich. The fact that Manchester United starts with a game away in the Allianz Arena could end in a mounting failure. I don't want to be too dramatic too early, but assuming that Manchester United loses that game, they better not make any mistake in the next two upcoming games against underdogs. If they drop points again and have maybe 4 points after the first 3 games, the pressure will be serious. Because their scope for mistakes is fully exhausted by then as they can't expect points in their last game either when they face Bayern Munich again. I doubt that Bayern will lose the first game, which makes it not as complicated even if they tie the game and win the next two.

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Quote from: bering on September 08, 2023, 02:27:08 AM

Bayern Munich and Manchester United is the strongest teams on group A so it's hard for Galatasaray to compete against these teams but everything still possible to happend because group stage hasn't to begin yet and if Galatasaray can able to beat Manchester United i think there is a good chances for them to qualified but indeed this is really hard because during their participant in champion league turkish teams always be recognized as mediocre team and the most realistic position for Galatasaray probably 3rd places however if i am not mistaken Galatasaray have been advances to round of 16 on 2013 and at that time they were fight against Schalke and Galatasaray were successfully to advances to quarterfinal but unfortunately their journey have to stopped on that stage because they lose from Real Madrid

UEFA Champions League group draws is now available, It do favours some team and didn't favour some. Thomas Tuchel and Erik Ten Hag would be delighted to confront each other in group stage games, because the knot is easy to weave. Manchester United and Bayern Munich meet in the opening game; either side will win and collect three points, however I believe the Red Devils and Bavarians are going to find the next game easier. They are the only elite clubs from Group A who would qualify. I have no worries about my forecasts because the level of performance of these clubs is higher than that of Copenhagen and Galatasaray.

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Every team in Group F is very strong. Milan, Dortmund, Newcastle and PSG each have an equal chance of qualifying for the knockout rounds. It is impossible to predict which two teams will advance to the next round. PSG will certainly be at the top of the discussion. PSG have the best chance of qualifying for the knockout rounds if they can continue their performance. Because there are many star players in PSG's squad. Now waiting to see Luis Enrique's match strategy. I think PSG and Milan are the most likely to qualify for the knockout round. Because these two teams have more experience in the Champions League. The performance of the Dortmund team is now very erratic. I don't think they will be able to do much in the Champions League this year.

I also think Milan and PSG will qualify for the next round. but in the Champions League we can see many surprises happening. Even teams that are not favorites can also have a chance to qualify.
Dortmund and Newcastle are experiencing a decline in performance in the league. they were inconsistent at the start of this season, but we can learn from Sevilla last season in the Europa League. those who don't stand out in the domestic league are in fact very strong in the Europa League.
I don't mean to compare these two different competitions. obviously the Champions League has tougher competition. but I think there will be many surprises in this group phase of the Champions League.

Dortmund and Newcastle are not different in perfomance and that's make thm vulnerable in their next matches in the group stage, while PSG and Milan are currently looking good in their domestic leagues, other two teams are not the kind of regular teams like Sevilla, PSV and Lens that might not do well, the start of the season is the only thing showing the resilience of these teams, by the time pressure starts to mount on teams, Dortmund or Newcastle might surprise us in the end.

Group F might be hot in the eyes of everyone but that doesn't mean we shoul forget group A and C, I'm more concern about my Real Madrid, Union Berlin and Napoli, these three are very hot, there is guarantee for Real Madrid to make it out of the group stage but not sure what Napoli and Berlin are going to do at the end because right now, Napoli are yet to activate their best, their domestic league still suck, perhaps they will change in the long run.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on September 08, 2023, 12:31:14 AM

Its so sad for Galatasaray to be in that group with Bayern. Its impossible to ge even 1 point from them in my opinion - there is huge power difference. But I suppose Galatasaray can challenge Kopenhag. Its unlucky for Kopenhag too - they drew nearly all strong teams from pots. They could have chance to go next round if they could be in a different group. So same scenario for them. Competition only for 1st rank at 3rd rank in that group. Otherwise teams are literally divided to two.

Bayern Munich and Manchester United is the strongest teams on group A so it's hard for Galatasaray to compete against these teams but everything still possible to happend because group stage hasn't to begin yet and if Galatasaray can able to beat Manchester United i think there is a good chances for them to qualified but indeed this is really hard because during their participant in champion league turkish teams always be recognized as mediocre team and the most realistic position for Galatasaray probably 3rd places however if i am not mistaken Galatasaray have been advances to round of 16 on 2013 and at that time they were fight against Schalke and Galatasaray were successfully to advances to quarterfinal but unfortunately their journey have to stopped on that stage because they lose from Real Madrid

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Quote from: arimamib on September 07, 2023, 06:13:13 PM

In general, this will affect the mentality of their players to be able to perform better in the Champions League. So, if they fail to do so in the domestic league, surely in the Champions League they will also experience the same thing. If the quality of a team's performance is unstable in the domestic league, it will have a big impact on the influence of their game in the Champions League.

Newcastle United failed to do their best in the domestic league because they have lost 3 times so they are quite unbalanced to be able to provide strong competition in the Champions League. Moreover, their players do not have long experience in the Champions League so it will be difficult for them when facing a team full of experience in the Champions League.

To be honest, I didn't expect Newcastle to get such a bad series of results in the domestic league and it's the opposite of what they have shown since last season. They should be aware that getting to the Champions League competition is not easy and when they are faced with a more competitive season they fail to maintain it. Especially now that Newcastle must be in a group with other strong teams such as Dortmund, PSG, Milan which makes it almost impossible for them to get past the group stage.

Experience is very important in this competition and if I were Newcastle, of course I would be very happy to be in the same group as that team because we can measure the strength of teams whose level is equal or higher than us. So, I think Newcastle can't complain this time whatever the result will be.

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Its so sad for Galatasaray to be in that group with Bayern. Its impossible to ge even 1 point from them in my opinion - there is huge power difference. But I suppose Galatasaray can challenge Kopenhag. Its unlucky for Kopenhag too - they drew nearly all strong teams from pots. They could have chance to go next round if they could be in a different group. So same scenario for them. Competition only for 1st rank at 3rd rank in that group. Otherwise teams are literally divided to two.

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Quote from: Smack That Ace on September 07, 2023, 11:27:50 PM

Every team in Group F is very strong. Milan, Dortmund, Newcastle and PSG each have an equal chance of qualifying for the knockout rounds. It is impossible to predict which two teams will advance to the next round. PSG will certainly be at the top of the discussion. PSG have the best chance of qualifying for the knockout rounds if they can continue their performance. Because there are many star players in PSG's squad. Now waiting to see Luis Enrique's match strategy. I think PSG and Milan are the most likely to qualify for the knockout round. Because these two teams have more experience in the Champions League. The performance of the Dortmund team is now very erratic. I don't think they will be able to do much in the Champions League this year.

I also think Milan and PSG will qualify for the next round. but in the Champions League we can see many surprises happening. Even teams that are not favorites can also have a chance to qualify.
Dortmund and Newcastle are experiencing a decline in performance in the league. they were inconsistent at the start of this season, but we can learn from Sevilla last season in the Europa League. those who don't stand out in the domestic league are in fact very strong in the Europa League.
I don't mean to compare these two different competitions. obviously the Champions League has tougher competition. but I think there will be many surprises in this group phase of the Champions League.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on September 07, 2023, 11:08:08 PM

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We agree that the 3 clubs AC Milan, Dortmund and Newcastle cannot be underestimated, therefore coach Enrique's demands are very high and as much as possible he does not underestimate the opponents he faces, especially AC Milan and Dortmund, even without Bellingham Dortmund can still give him quite a dangerous game.

With all four clubs in this group, PSG must solve each match especially first matches very well if they don't want to stop this season too early after a group stage.

All three clubs are able to get points or even beat PSG in group matches.

The strength of AC Milan, Dortmund and Newcastle will be a big challenge for PSG to qualify for the last 16, maybe Luis Enrique's troops will lose a few points in their away matches because of the pretty good quality of the opponents. PSG might be able to overcome Newcastle, who has appeared less consistent this season, in the Premier League they have not been able to show their best performance so it is very easy to lose points. PSG must perform optimally if they want to continue their journey to the last 16, they might be able to qualify if they are able to get all the points in the Home match and additional points in the Away match. But I'm not sure PSG will qualify as Group Winners especially as they are in a transitional stage with some new players after their lethal trio broke up.

Every team in Group F is very strong. Milan, Dortmund, Newcastle and PSG each have an equal chance of qualifying for the knockout rounds. It is impossible to predict which two teams will advance to the next round. PSG will certainly be at the top of the discussion. PSG have the best chance of qualifying for the knockout rounds if they can continue their performance. Because there are many star players in PSG's squad. Now waiting to see Luis Enrique's match strategy. I think PSG and Milan are the most likely to qualify for the knockout round. Because these two teams have more experience in the Champions League. The performance of the Dortmund team is now very erratic. I don't think they will be able to do much in the Champions League this year.

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I believe that for group E where Atletico Madrid and Lazio will play there will be little doubt as to who will finish first in the standings at the end of the clashes. Although I don't like the game played by Atletico Madrid so much, they have a much stronger and more compact team than Lazio who have struggled a lot in this start to the championship, not to be underestimated, however, there will be Feyenoord who are a very tough opponent to beat and I think second place in the standings will be played against Lazio

Their schemes are always monotonous with their bus parking but that's Simeone's trademark and he doesn't care whether he's criticized for his schemes or not as he wants good results.
But indeed for group E it seems that there will be no obstacles even though Feyenoord and Celtic are not easy opponents but in terms of strength and Champions League experience, it is possible that Atletico can qualify for the knock out phase.

I just hope for a group that is comparable like this to have a good competition in the standings even though it will not beat the competition in group F for now because this group is what I am waiting for the competition.

their way of playing is not spectacular, and often focuses more on breaking up the game than building and giving a bit of a spectacle, and then defending the result. This is Simeone's game, but the fans love him and I have never seen or heard any criticism from them. In my opinion, group F is the most exciting, four strong teams and they will all try to pass the group and go to the round of 16, I believe that among these four teams the one least equipped to compete in the champions league is Newcastle, but I am not following the premier league and I could be very wrong

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Quote from: BlackBoss_ on September 07, 2023, 10:30:57 PM

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We agree that the 3 clubs AC Milan, Dortmund and Newcastle cannot be underestimated, therefore coach Enrique's demands are very high and as much as possible he does not underestimate the opponents he faces, especially AC Milan and Dortmund, even without Bellingham Dortmund can still give him quite a dangerous game.

With all four clubs in this group, PSG must solve each match especially first matches very well if they don't want to stop this season too early after a group stage.

All three clubs are able to get points or even beat PSG in group matches.

The strength of AC Milan, Dortmund and Newcastle will be a big challenge for PSG to qualify for the last 16, maybe Luis Enrique's troops will lose a few points in their away matches because of the pretty good quality of the opponents. PSG might be able to overcome Newcastle, who has appeared less consistent this season, in the Premier League they have not been able to show their best performance so it is very easy to lose points. PSG must perform optimally if they want to continue their journey to the last 16, they might be able to qualify if they are able to get all the points in the Home match and additional points in the Away match. But I'm not sure PSG will qualify as Group Winners especially as they are in a transitional stage with some new players after their lethal trio broke up.

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Quote from: naira on September 07, 2023, 09:38:58 PM

With the remaining star player Mbappe, I think the attacking aspect will be much more effective, the inclusion of Asensio and Dembele will play a role in supplying the ball, of course this will make it easier for Enrique to apply strategy. At least if PSG can overcome the intense competition in Group F then the potential that follows will give them more motivation. Of course there is a price to be paid by fighting harder in the beginning. The Champions League journey will not be easy for them to achieve.

Only Mbappe is not enough to make a strong team and PSG need more than him to have a strong attacking system and a strong team need more player resources. Asensio and Dembele came as replacements for Messi and Neymar but those players won't contribute too much for PSG proactive defense at their frontline. It is not important in matches with weak opponents but is very important when facing against biggest opponents in Europe. Losing a ball and don't chase opponent players to stop their counter attacking at the frontline, it will cause nightmare for PSG defenders and goalkeepers.

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We agree that the 3 clubs AC Milan, Dortmund and Newcastle cannot be underestimated, therefore coach Enrique's demands are very high and as much as possible he does not underestimate the opponents he faces, especially AC Milan and Dortmund, even without Bellingham Dortmund can still give him quite a dangerous game.

With all four clubs in this group, PSG must solve each match especially first matches very well if they don't want to stop this season too early after a group stage.

All three clubs are able to get points or even beat PSG in group matches.

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I wouldn't check the rank for all rating of a team supposedly being victory during a clash because if not for anything it will be for the fact that it's actually football and everything and anything is possible but when we look at the match up formally we'll it's very clear that ATM are going to win this match but like I said nothing is too sure in a soccer game.

There is one thing about Champions League matches and that is when you look at the two clubs that are going to play the Champions League match. It will be obvious that one club will win the other but what makes the difference and why it is called the Champions League is that at every midweek there is always one two or three clubs that you pull some surprises to show that it is a Champions League. So even when we see favorites in each group, there is every tendency that they might also lose match and not top their league and possibly one big name will still not qualify from the different group stages of the Champions League

This is the Champions League, surprises always happen in it, the teams that compete in the Champions League are the best teams who are representatives of their respective leagues. Teams that are considered weak compared to representative teams from the Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A and Ligue 1 may surprise because they want to prove their quality in the highest caste. In the group stage there are always surprises that can break all predictions, the atmosphere of the Champions League is different from the domestic league, making them play with high tension in order to maintain their position to qualify for the round of 16.
Big teams are always the favourites, but teams that are considered weak cannot be underestimated. Coaches must regard all matches in the Champions League as important matches, they must not underestimate their opponents because they could lose at the end of the game.

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on September 07, 2023, 08:37:17 AM

Group F is going to be the toughest battle of all. All the teams in Group F are very strong so when the game is strong team vs strong team, the game will be much more interesting. Last season PSG was the same team as PSG this season but not the same team because psg team has changed a lot this season. All those stars with whom PSG dreamed of winning the Champions League have not won PSG. The best stars have left PSG, but Mbappe has been with PSG so far this season, along with the signing of Dembele from Barcelona, and the happiest news for PSG is that Luis Enrique is now in charge of PSG. Through Luis Enrique, PSG is again dreaming of winning the Champions League.

With the remaining star player Mbappe, I think the attacking aspect will be much more effective, the inclusion of Asensio and Dembele will play a role in supplying the ball, of course this will make it easier for Enrique to apply strategy. At least if PSG can overcome the intense competition in Group F then the potential that follows will give them more motivation. Of course there is a price to be paid by fighting harder in the beginning. The Champions League journey will not be easy for them to achieve.

Quote from: bering on September 07, 2023, 09:22:20 AM

PSG was into hell group in this competition and with their situations indeed some people doubt to them because their opponents such as AC Milan, Dortmund and Newcastle cannot be underestimate but PSG has good records from Dortmund because previously they can able to beat this team several times and all teams indeed had equal chances to qualified but i think PSG is slightly the favourite moreover if i am not mistaken although PSG was often to changing the manager but since 2013 they always be qualified to knockout stage

We agree that the 3 clubs AC Milan, Dortmund and Newcastle cannot be underestimated, therefore coach Enrique's demands are very high and as much as possible he does not underestimate the opponents he faces, especially AC Milan and Dortmund, even without Bellingham Dortmund can still give him quite a dangerous game.

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Quote from: Zoomic on September 07, 2023, 03:49:52 PM

Quote from: DaNNy001 on September 07, 2023, 01:39:34 PM

I wouldn't check the rank for all rating of a team supposedly being victory during a clash because if not for anything it will be for the fact that it's actually football and everything and anything is possible but when we look at the match up formally we'll it's very clear that ATM are going to win this match but like I said nothing is too sure in a soccer game.

There is one thing about Champions League matches and that is when you look at the two clubs that are going to play the Champions League match. It will be obvious that one club will win the other but what makes the difference and why it is called the Champions League is that at every midweek there is always one two or three clubs that you pull some surprises to show that it is a Champions League. So even when we see favorites in each group, there is every tendency that they might also lose match and not top their league and possibly one big name will still not qualify from the different group stages of the Champions League

I understood that if champion league means the battle from best of the best. That being said that the best clubs in the european last season were fighting to win the most prestigious trophy in the european competition.
The surprises were sometimes coming, caused by any team who fight in UCL was the best team from their own countries. The chance to make comeback is always there but i can't deny that if so many times the strong teams were dominating the league.

Real Madrid and Bayern have been dominant in this competition for a long time, which is why it's not surprising to me that the stronger teams are more likely to qualify for the play off stage.
Any surprises will always come from UCL. The battle from best of the best. The only problem if sometimes there was a club that is far superior compared with its opponents in the group stage.

I can't deny even small team had chance to beat the team like madrid but the chance is very small.

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 07, 2023, 05:27:55 PM

Any club that is doing excellently well in the local League presently has the chances of doing well in the Champions League. There is this kind of motivation that comes when you will matches consecutively. If any club is losing matches in the local League do not expect much from them in the Champions League, just like the case of Newcastle United.
It is only few and experience clubs like Liverpool that will perform poor in the local League. But when it comes to Champions League, they play on a very different level. Club like Real Madrid is also known for doing such a thing.

In general, this will affect the mentality of their players to be able to perform better in the Champions League. So, if they fail to do so in the domestic league, surely in the Champions League they will also experience the same thing. If the quality of a team's performance is unstable in the domestic league, it will have a big impact on the influence of their game in the Champions League.

Newcastle United failed to do their best in the domestic league because they have lost 3 times so they are quite unbalanced to be able to provide strong competition in the Champions League. Moreover, their players do not have long experience in the Champions League so it will be difficult for them when facing a team full of experience in the Champions League.

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Sevilla team is performing very well. Sergio Ramos, one of the best defenders ever, has been added to the team By doing this, the party will become stronger than before. Hope the team will try their best to do well this season.

Well, Sevilla have started this season just as bad as they did last season, i don't know where you got the impression that they are performing very well, they have played three games in La Liga this season and they have lost all three of them and they are rooted in the bottom of the table.

Having said that, it is going to be somewhat difficult for Sevilla to make it out of Groub B in the CL, but their fans might not mind if they crash out and into the Europa league, because they have a knack of winning that competition.

Sevilla are not doing well with their performance in laliga this season, all their games they have played so far for the season they have not recorded a good result . With the performance from Sevilla I doubt if Sevilla can be able to do well in their games in Champions league, I'm verysure they will find their way back to the Europa which they are always lucky and best at in coming out with a good result. Sevilla are not ready for Champions league and they didn't make any preparation for it , I don't think it will be easy for them.

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Quote from: Zoomic on September 07, 2023, 03:49:52 PM

Quote from: DaNNy001 on September 07, 2023, 01:39:34 PM

I wouldn't check the rank for all rating of a team supposedly being victory during a clash because if not for anything it will be for the fact that it's actually football and everything and anything is possible but when we look at the match up formally we'll it's very clear that ATM are going to win this match but like I said nothing is too sure in a soccer game.

There is one thing about Champions League matches and that is when you look at the two clubs that are going to play the Champions League match. It will be obvious that one club will win the other but what makes the difference and why it is called the Champions League is that at every midweek there is always one two or three clubs that you pull some surprises to show that it is a Champions League. So even when we see favorites in each group, there is every tendency that they might also lose match and not top their league and possibly one big name will still not qualify from the different group stages of the Champions League

You are entirely correct! The Champions League is unpredictable and exciting because even the favourites could suffer unexpected losses on any given matchday. It is the reason the competition is so exciting and bears the moniker Champions League. Underdog teams can rise to the occasion and triumph against more powerful foes, producing surprising results and priceless moments. The Champions League is one of the most prestigious and watched football competitions in the world because of this competition and the possibility of upsets.

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 07, 2023, 05:27:55 PM

Any club that is doing excellently well in the local League presently has the chances of doing well in the Champions League. There is this kind of motivation that comes when you will matches consecutively. If any club is losing matches in the local League do not expect much from them in the Champions League, just like the case of Newcastle United.
It is only few and experience clubs like Liverpool that will perform poor in the local League. But when it comes to Champions League, they play on a very different level. Club like Real Madrid is also known for doing such a thing.

There is no much to talk about this. Different clubs have different energy they use when playing in a competition. This energy varies from the nature of the club players and their coach managing them. You already gave an exception to some clubs which I know they might be doing poorly in the domestic league but always have a way to play better in the champions league, which I feel could be that the champions league competition and the benefit that comes from it after each stage is very high, so they put more focus and energy there. If there possibility of going far in the domestic league is not guaranteed, they can put more focus here to better themselves and also win the reward that comes from here. There won’t be so much actions in the group stages than the knockout rounds, I look forward to that entertaining football in the knockout rounds more.

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I don't think the rankings in domestic competitions will matter much in this case because in the end it's all decided by the results of 90 minutes of matches.

Well yeah, Some may have an effect, some don't. But what is certain is that clubs that are able to optimize their performance in every match have a higher chance of surviving. Sometimes there are clubs that seem ordinary when playing in the league, but can play very well in the UCL or leagues like the European League. This will purely depend on the readiness of each club when they are going to compete, starting from mental readiness and performance, as well as the readiness of the coach to apply their best strategy at that time. So they can consistently be optimal.

Any club that is doing excellently well in the local League presently has the chances of doing well in the Champions League. There is this kind of motivation that comes when you will matches consecutively. If any club is losing matches in the local League do not expect much from them in the Champions League, just like the case of Newcastle United.
It is only few and experience clubs like Liverpool that will perform poor in the local League. But when it comes to Champions League, they play on a very different level. Club like Real Madrid is also known for doing such a thing.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on September 07, 2023, 03:31:58 PM

I believe that for group E where Atletico Madrid and Lazio will play there will be little doubt as to who will finish first in the standings at the end of the clashes. Although I don't like the game played by Atletico Madrid so much, they have a much stronger and more compact team than Lazio who have struggled a lot in this start to the championship, not to be underestimated, however, there will be Feyenoord who are a very tough opponent to beat and I think second place in the standings will be played against Lazio

Their schemes are always monotonous with their bus parking but that's Simeone's trademark and he doesn't care whether he's criticized for his schemes or not as he wants good results.
But indeed for group E it seems that there will be no obstacles even though Feyenoord and Celtic are not easy opponents but in terms of strength and Champions League experience, it is possible that Atletico can qualify for the knock out phase.

I just hope for a group that is comparable like this to have a good competition in the standings even though it will not beat the competition in group F for now because this group is what I am waiting for the competition.

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