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April 21, 2024, 04:20:26 AM

Yes, they have won the Champions League title so for now they have the same chance of getting the title even though most people choose Real Madrid, including myself. But Bayern Munich also remains an enemy that Real Madrid is quite wary of so we'll see what will happen what happens between them later I only wish the best for Real Madrid, it remains my favorite club in the Champions League.
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I'm always scared when Madrid are facing Munich especially in the time of lewandowski.
Well don't want to jinx it but let see how things goes I'd prefer the La liga trophy despite lower than the UCL because the UCL trophy is becoming bland to me unlike La liga that we have barely won in recent years. So we have two Bundesliga, one Ligue 1 and 1 La liga
PSG still continue their streak of no UCL title.
What is your opinion about the PSG - Dortmund matchup? Honestly I believe PSG are here big thanks to their luck as well. That unbelievable red card Araujo got finished off Barcelona. This makes me question PSG's chance for even reaching the finale. Because their opponent in the semi finals is doing really good recently too.  Smiley

PSG shouldn't be ruled out yet but rationally with past data I don't see them making the finals or raising the cup.
Just hope the final of UCL doesn't end up been another Bundesliga match  Angry
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April 21, 2024, 04:16:20 AM
What is your opinion about the PSG - Dortmund matchup? Honestly I believe PSG are here big thanks to their luck as well. That unbelievable red card Araujo got finished off Barcelona. This makes me question PSG's chance for even reaching the finale. Because their opponent in the semi finals is doing really good recently too.  Smiley

Dortmund eliminated Atletico Madrid which isn't really an easy job to do for even the biggest favourites of the title here. They did it in a really impressive way at the same time. I remember PSG - Dortmund games in the group stage but I still believe it might be different this time. Even if PSG advance I think it won't be easy.
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April 21, 2024, 02:06:59 AM
There's no reason for Madrid to underestimate Bayern
They have always been one of the most dominant team in the UCL in recent years so caution would be employed while playing them no matter their form.
Madrid can be considered a favored child in UCL
No matter their form
They always are the likeliest to win the trophy and who ever manages to win them has already won the UCL.
Real Madrid will never underestimate its arch rival in the Champions League even though in recent years it has not met Bayern Munich, but now Real Madrid will be reunited with Bayern Munich in the semifinals and this will be a big match for both of them, whichever club they face. Real Madrid will definitely feel the pressure, as well as Real Madrid, which is not taking its opponents in this semifinal easy because their opponents have also fought hard to reach this round. Even though Bayern Munich appear less consistent in the domestic league, when they are in the Champions League, Bayern Munich is still the second favorite after Real Madrid.

Yes, they have won the Champions League title so for now they have the same chance of getting the title even though most people choose Real Madrid, including myself. But Bayern Munich also remains an enemy that Real Madrid is quite wary of so we'll see what will happen what happens between them later I only wish the best for Real Madrid, it remains my favorite club in the Champions League.
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April 20, 2024, 11:52:04 PM
The odds should be against Bayern Munich and be in favour of Real Madrid because with so many indications, it is clear that Real Madrid has the greater quality in this game to prevail over Bayern Munich. This season, when you compare their stats, it becomes very clear that Real Madrid is the better and most successful team this season amongst all other teams left playing in the champions league semifinals.

Real Madrid and Bayern Munich have vast experience in the champions league but sometimes that’s not enough to make the teams to win their match and qualify for the next round without adding extra tactics into the match. The odds could be in favour of Real Madrid but Bayern Munich are not left out on the hope of not winning the match also. Football is unpredictable and anything can happen, so I can’t be decisive of the winning team in the end.
As mentioned we all know these both sides are well experienced and having quality to do things in this big game even Bayern Munich is having some problems into their domestic league but still they are doing impressive into Champions League which is good from them and with this performance and level of quality we can give them fair chance for having good fight against top spirited Real Madrid which is now after beating Manchester City having more edge to win this title again as they are having most wins in the history of this event which is record.

Both sides are clearly having good experience but recent tactics and strategy are clearly giving good advantage to Carlos Ancelotti which is one of the best person and doing amazing job in this season after having good advantage against top teams of the soccer world.
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April 20, 2024, 11:35:53 PM
Happy when Madrid qualified for the Semifinals. I thought Madrid would fail but I was wrong. Madrid have made history, they were able to thwart Man City to the semi-finals. Last year they failed because of Man City. For now they are able to turn things around. I'm sure a lot of people who lose bet. But next they have to fight Munich, it's Anceloti's tough task. But I'm quite optimistic Madrid will qualify for the FInal. Because the toughest opponent I think is only Man City.
Last year City succeeded for one reason only - Real Madrid were without a striker (and all the other contenders were also in crisis). Maybe last year City would have won the Champions League even if the competitors had been in optimal shape, but the fact remains: their only success was achieved during a season of crisis for everyone else. That's why it makes me laugh when City are called the strongest team (and Pep is a good coach), they never jumped above their heads. That is why they will always remain a money bag and greatness will be with other clubs.
This is strong point while we can talk about this as well because in last season we have mostly top teams were facing troubling time due to injuries and lack of players which give Manchester City huge chance for the win, and they were good enough to avail this and win the many trophies but in this season we are having mostly teams are at his best which is giving them good advantage and Manchester City were facing some trouble due to their attack was not good enough as they were having in last season which give them bad results, and now they are having exit from the event which is surely nothing new because usually clubs are face situations like this and also having exit like this which give them motivation for the next season hopefully now we will have them back stronger in coming season for the another title race.
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April 20, 2024, 06:40:09 PM
Well for every reason possible the odds are against Bayern and the other remaining teams because of the strength and might of Real Madrid but I would have cancelled this if it was a few seasons back when Bayern were also at their prime. The thing about Bayern Munich now is that they have the players but it's the system of play that's currently not working out because they seem to lack preciseness when it comes to winning games and this is an area where Real Madrid are actually specialist.

The odds should be against Bayern Munich and be in favour of Real Madrid because with so many indications, it is clear that Real Madrid has the greater quality in this game to prevail over Bayern Munich. This season, when you compare their stats, it becomes very clear that Real Madrid is the better and most successful team this season amongst all other teams left playing in the champions league semifinals.

Real Madrid and Bayern Munich have vast experience in the champions league but sometimes that’s not enough to make the teams to win their match and qualify for the next round without adding extra tactics into the match. The odds could be in favour of Real Madrid but Bayern Munich are not left out on the hope of not winning the match also. Football is unpredictable and anything can happen, so I can’t be decisive of the winning team in the end.
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April 20, 2024, 06:03:43 PM
There's no reason for Madrid to underestimate Bayern.
They have always been one of the most dominant team in the UCL in recent years so caution would be employed while playing them no matter their form.
Indeed. Real Madrid can't underestimate Bayern Munich although this team is in bad performance in their domestic competition. Bayern Munich is surely a strong team in UCL, they even always becomes one of the favorite teams to win the UCL trophy. Moreover, Bayern Munich has no hope for domestic trophies, they will focus on UCL now. I'm pretty sure Bayern Munich will play all out, they won't care with the possibility of injuries or anything. Reaching the final UCL and win the trophy is their main priority now.

If you look at the statistics, maybe Madrid is far superior to Munich, but the previous season and the current season are clearly very different in terms of strength, that's why it's hard to underestimate one of them
The stats of previous matches can't determine the result of the next match. Although Real Madrid often won against Bayern Munich, it is not impossible that Bayern Munich can defeat Real Madrid in this season. However, Real Madrid is still better than Bayern Munich if we consider the current performance of these teams.

I hate the fact that Real MAdrid dominance is super big, but also i love their spirit and how they play in this tournament. In no other tournament or league we see this thing, because is not only the dominance is also how is the dominance and is always like a magic thing, how they do that.
Why you hate it? It is even more interesting if Real Madrid is very dominant in UCL. Other teams will be motivated to end up the domination of Real Madrid in UCL. The domination of Real Madrid isn't only caused by the luck or magic factor, you must understand how strong this team. Perez always builds Real Madrid with skillful and star players.


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April 20, 2024, 05:33:00 PM
Well for every reason possible the odds are against Bayern and the other remaining teams because of the strength and might of Real Madrid but I would have cancelled this if it was a few seasons back when Bayern were also at their prime. The thing about Bayern Munich now is that they have the players but it's the system of play that's currently not working out because they seem to lack preciseness when it comes to winning games and this is an area where Real Madrid are actually specialist.
I i think ruling out Bayern Munich already may actually be really detrimental because i have observed that in as much as Bayern Munich isn't looking very fit as they used to be in their bundseliga which happens to be their domestic league, i still see that they have a better performance in the champions league when compares because the champions league is actually expected to be more competitive and challenging yet they are doing good.

You made a point because it is not easy to survive in the champions league because you get to meet teams that are from different leagues and plays different patterns of football more like teams that you always meet in the domestic league so I agree that for Bayern Munich to reach this stage even when they are not too in form means they tried too and despite that everyone is giving the odds to Real Madrid, table may turn and the opposite occur so Bayern may do something wonderful on their match against Real Madrid.
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April 20, 2024, 05:23:21 PM
Happy when Madrid qualified for the Semifinals. I thought Madrid would fail but I was wrong. Madrid have made history, they were able to thwart Man City to the semi-finals. Last year they failed because of Man City. For now they are able to turn things around. I'm sure a lot of people who lose bet. But next they have to fight Munich, it's Anceloti's tough task. But I'm quite optimistic Madrid will qualify for the FInal. Because the toughest opponent I think is only Man City.

Last year City succeeded for one reason only - Real Madrid were without a striker (and all the other contenders were also in crisis). Maybe last year City would have won the Champions League even if the competitors had been in optimal shape, but the fact remains: their only success was achieved during a season of crisis for everyone else. That's why it makes me laugh when City are called the strongest team (and Pep is a good coach), they never jumped above their heads. That is why they will always remain a money bag and greatness will be with other clubs.
Last season in the UEFA Champions League competition, Real Madrid were eliminated from the competition in the semi finals by Manchester City in a convincing fashion which is why many people were still of the opinion that Madrid will likely gave same humiliation when the travel to the Etihad for the second leg of their quarter final encounter with the English champions but to their surprise, Real Madrid delivered a great performance to reach the semi final and send Pep Guardiola's men parking from the competition.
My belief in the Real Madrid team this season has be unflinching because of how impressive and formidable they've been all season and against Manchester City, I knew that Carlo Ancelotti's men were surely going to win the tie.
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April 20, 2024, 05:22:49 PM

It would be very naive if Madrid did that because in the end we also cannot assume that Bayern is an ordinary club, especially with the release of the Bundesliga trophy at this time, so the goal is the Champions League because it is the only way for Bayern to save their face so surely they will try as hard as possible to get good results so it is wrong if Madrid considers Bayern underestimated in the semi-finals this time.

But for now with Madrid winning against Manchester City some time ago, their probability has increased and they are the favorites in this competition.
I personally still feel that until now Madrid is the favorite for the Champions League and indeed I feel that now is the place for Madrid to get their 15th trophy.

There's no reason for Madrid to underestimate Bayern
They have always been one of the most dominant team in the UCL in recent years so caution would be employed while playing them no matter their form.
Madrid can be considered a favored child in UCL
No matter their form
They always are the likeliest to win the trophy and who ever manages to win them has already won the UCL.
At this point, I will say Real Madrid are going to get this title. Although I know that in this stage of competition, no opponent can be underestimated, with the kind of performance Real Madrid get now and the kind of performance they showed in their previous match again, Manchester City vs. Bayern Munich will no longer be a very big challenge for Real Madrid, so we will say they won’t get the title. It's not that I’m underestimating Bayern's performance, but Real Madrid are stronger than them currently.

Even if Bayern Munich dominates the Champions League every season, I can say that this season I see something different because there are some signs of weakness in them, and this will give Real Madrid a higher chance of winning the Champions League this season.

When this game started between Real Madrid and Manchester City we could guess one of these two teams will be out of the Champions League. However, I was hoping to see these two teams playing against each other later and in the final match but sadly it didn't happen and we should say goodbye to Manchester City and their coach Guardiola.
However, we know the performance of Manchester City was not bad at all and Real Madrid was lucky to beat Manchester City in the penalty kicks.
Now we should wait for the game between Real Madrid and Bayern Munich.


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April 20, 2024, 05:17:55 PM
Well for every reason possible the odds are against Bayern and the other remaining teams because of the strength and might of Real Madrid but I would have cancelled this if it was a few seasons back when Bayern were also at their prime. The thing about Bayern Munich now is that they have the players but it's the system of play that's currently not working out because they seem to lack preciseness when it comes to winning games and this is an area where Real Madrid are actually specialist.
I i think ruling out Bayern Munich already may actually be really detrimental because i have observed that in as much as Bayern Munich isn't looking very fit as they used to be in their bundseliga which happens to be their domestic league, i still see that they have a better performance in the champions league when compares because the champions league is actually expected to be more competitive and challenging yet they are doing good.

The bundesliga hasn't been as challenging as it is now before but then it's not still looking much more challenging than the champions league in my perspective because i think the champions league is actually even more challenging than the bundesliga but then Munich has been able to surpass this level of the league because they have seem to put more effort in the champions league hoping to get the most off it since they couldn't achieve such with the bundesliga this season, in previous seasons they would rather channel the energy into the bundesliga.

I feel the Bavarians wants to make sure to achieve the champions league this season and underrating them will be the biggest mistake Madrid may make if they actually do because since the champions league they have not lost too many games and they have been able to ascend.the champions league table till this point knocking out others who were contenders too so i personally see Bayern Munich as even more dangerous this season than before as they may  be playing a psychology game.
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April 20, 2024, 05:08:00 PM
Happy when Madrid qualified for the Semifinals. I thought Madrid would fail but I was wrong. Madrid have made history, they were able to thwart Man City to the semi-finals. Last year they failed because of Man City. For now they are able to turn things around. I'm sure a lot of people who lose bet. But next they have to fight Munich, it's Anceloti's tough task. But I'm quite optimistic Madrid will qualify for the FInal. Because the toughest opponent I think is only Man City.

Last year City succeeded for one reason only - Real Madrid were without a striker (and all the other contenders were also in crisis). Maybe last year City would have won the Champions League even if the competitors had been in optimal shape, but the fact remains: their only success was achieved during a season of crisis for everyone else. That's why it makes me laugh when City are called the strongest team (and Pep is a good coach), they never jumped above their heads. That is why they will always remain a money bag and greatness will be with other clubs.
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April 20, 2024, 05:07:56 PM
Real Madrid have no striker. But in this cup, they are again ambitious and very successful. The Champions League is always a different place for them. But I don't think a team playing without a striker can win the Champions League.

Paris Saint Germain have Mbappe. But they are a young and inexperienced team. I don't think they can win this cup either. They don't have enough experience yet.

I'm sure almost everyone gives Borussia Dortmund the least chance of winning the title.

Kane, Kimmich, Gnabry, Sane, Neuer. They've had bad results in the league this season. But they are a team of experienced players who play together with young players. I expect a surprise from Bayern Munich.
All these factors are right about all the remaining teams in the Champions League, but to predict the winning team will be difficult because all these teams have their slight chances just that Madrid and PSG’s chances are higher than Bayern and Dortmund.

Just as many people are thinking that Bayern and Dortmund might not go far in the tournament, I am expecting this Champions League final to be between Madrid and PSG because Madrid might win Bayern while PSG might win Dortmund which means the two German teams might be eliminated in the semifinal.

These two German giants Bayern and Dortmund really tried this season even after having a bad season in the Bundesliga as Bayer Leverkusen won the League ahead of them all; I think one of them should be a Champions League finalist this season.
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April 20, 2024, 04:58:46 PM
Now all possibilities can still happen because after all, with the current situation of Madrid and Bayern in terms of players they are not much different even in terms of attack Bayern could be a little better because their style of play is the same as Manchester City but on the other hand Madrid is still Madrid with a mentality that cannot be underestimated because indeed until now Madrid is one of the clubs with the strongest mentality because of the experience they have.

Quite true but it will be interesting to watch Bayern Munich win over Real Madrid in the Tuesday match fixturing as that will be the most difficult thing to happen. However Bayern Munich will forever be grateful for their decisiveness if they eventually win over Madrid in the semi-finals of the Champions league.

Right now, for Bayern Munich to win over Real Madrid can be easily compared to Dortmund winning over PSG and if such cases should occur for both clubs it will be one of the greatest dual victories both clubs will experience this season and that will be converted to Bayern Munich facing Dortmund at the finals of this season.

Even though Real Madrid is basically still a candidate team to win the title, but there are still a lot of people who expect Bayern Munich can qualify for the final, and that includes me. But about Dortmund v PSG, I really find it difficult to make a choice although indeed, maybe PSG is the team that has the potential to qualify for the final. But yes, with Dortmund's great efforts before too, at least it is also proof that Dortmund has great ambitions to qualify for the final match. Therefore, I think all the teams in the semifinals this time are very interesting, because the four teams that are in the semifinals right now really seem to have an equally good chance of qualifying for the final.
Do you think that Real Madrid is Arsenal that do3have sharp strikers and Bayern defenders was able to stop them from scoring any goal in the second leg in Germany. I am very sure that Rodrigo will find the back of the net on that day, and is it Kane that missed a lot of chances or that the whole club is depending on that want to take them to the finals.

However, with this weak form of Bayern Munich, you still have hope in them. Even when Bayern Munich was in their best form back days during the time of Ruben, Ribbery and the rest, Bayern Munich find it very difficult to win Madrid talkmore of now that they in a bad form, and have been beaten by weak teams in their home. It will be an easy win for Real Madrid, and they will win UCL this season.
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April 20, 2024, 04:10:28 PM
Now all possibilities can still happen because after all, with the current situation of Madrid and Bayern in terms of players they are not much different even in terms of attack Bayern could be a little better because their style of play is the same as Manchester City but on the other hand Madrid is still Madrid with a mentality that cannot be underestimated because indeed until now Madrid is one of the clubs with the strongest mentality because of the experience they have.

Quite true but it will be interesting to watch Bayern Munich win over Real Madrid in the Tuesday match fixturing as that will be the most difficult thing to happen. However Bayern Munich will forever be grateful for their decisiveness if they eventually win over Madrid in the semi-finals of the Champions league.

Right now, for Bayern Munich to win over Real Madrid can be easily compared to Dortmund winning over PSG and if such cases should occur for both clubs it will be one of the greatest dual victories both clubs will experience this season and that will be converted to Bayern Munich facing Dortmund at the finals of this season.

Even though Real Madrid is basically still a candidate team to win the title, but there are still a lot of people who expect Bayern Munich can qualify for the final, and that includes me. But about Dortmund v PSG, I really find it difficult to make a choice although indeed, maybe PSG is the team that has the potential to qualify for the final. But yes, with Dortmund's great efforts before too, at least it is also proof that Dortmund has great ambitions to qualify for the final match. Therefore, I think all the teams in the semifinals this time are very interesting, because the four teams that are in the semifinals right now really seem to have an equally good chance of qualifying for the final.
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April 20, 2024, 03:57:03 PM
If you look at the statistics, maybe Madrid is far superior to Munich, but the previous season and the current season are clearly very different in terms of strength, that's why it's hard to underestimate one of them, but I'm happy if this match is full of surprises, I'll bet on both of them scoring goals and Madrid will win the match in the first and second legs, so far I see that Madrid is playing quite better than last season where they were able to balance Manchester City's game some time ago and finally got rid of them to make Madrid qualify for the UCL semi-finals this season, It seems that it might be true that they want to add to their 15th UCL title collection.
Some people want Munich to win because the final match between Munich and PSG/Dortmund will be fairer because the strengths of the two teams are not much different. But that might be a hope that won't come true. Based on statistics from the last few matches I think Real Madrid will beat Munich and get their 15th UCL title. Madrid's performance is really very solid. I often say that Real Madrid will be able to win the match even if it is 1-0 or through a penalty shootout. We can see in their match against Leipzig. Real Madrid progressed to the next round with a score of 2-1. Against City they qualified for the semifinals via a penalty shootout. I think this is unique to Real Madrid. And this happens because they can play very solidly in every match.
Well for every reason possible the odds are against Bayern and the other remaining teams because of the strength and might of Real Madrid but I would have cancelled this if it was a few seasons back when Bayern were also at their prime. The thing about Bayern Munich now is that they have the players but it's the system of play that's currently not working out because they seem to lack preciseness when it comes to winning games and this is an area where Real Madrid are actually specialist.

I agree, if you look at the teams that have reached the semi-finals at all, it's obvious that Real Madrid have a great chance of not only reaching the final, but also winning it. PSG in my opinion will not be able to stand up to Real Madrid if they meet in the final, Borussia could be a very interesting match if they end up together in the final
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April 20, 2024, 03:52:43 PM
Now all possibilities can still happen because after all, with the current situation of Madrid and Bayern in terms of players they are not much different even in terms of attack Bayern could be a little better because their style of play is the same as Manchester City but on the other hand Madrid is still Madrid with a mentality that cannot be underestimated because indeed until now Madrid is one of the clubs with the strongest mentality because of the experience they have.

Quite true but it will be interesting to watch Bayern Munich win over Real Madrid in the Tuesday match fixturing as that will be the most difficult thing to happen. However Bayern Munich will forever be grateful for their decisiveness if they eventually win over Madrid in the semi-finals of the Champions league.

Right now, for Bayern Munich to win over Real Madrid can be easily compared to Dortmund winning over PSG and if such cases should occur for both clubs it will be one of the greatest dual victories both clubs will experience this season and that will be converted to Bayern Munich facing Dortmund at the finals of this season.
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April 20, 2024, 03:36:02 PM
Bayern Munich aren't having one of their best seasons as I said before. However this doesn't mean that Real Madrid would be too comfortable to beat them. There is nothing guaranteed in football especially if you underestimate your opponent. I don't expect Ancelotti to do such thing though. He is a very smart manager which can be understood from the way he played against Manchester City.  Smiley

It was the only way to eliminate Manchester City and he preferred that by closing his ears to people who were criticizing him like he was a coward. Now I haven't any doubt that Ancelotti will choose the right way to play against Bayern Munich as well. I believe in Real Madrid to win the matchup.  Smiley
Arsenal were off their usual game, but there's Bayern. They are also out of the german league and they will give the champions league full attention and their power. I think Real is better for Bayern, if City had come they could have got Bayern really bad. Now it's a nice balanced match up. City's elimination is also great, we finally have a champions league that we can't predict who will win. No matter how out of form real madrid and bayern are, they somehow beat their rivals in the champions league.
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April 20, 2024, 02:52:03 PM
Well for every reason possible the odds are against Bayern and the other remaining teams because of the strength and might of Real Madrid but I would have cancelled this if it was a few seasons back when Bayern were also at their prime. The thing about Bayern Munich now is that they have the players but it's the system of play that's currently not working out because they seem to lack preciseness when it comes to winning games and this is an area where Real Madrid are actually specialist.
Now we don't need to talk about the previous glory days because the fact is that even in Bayern's heyday they lost to Madrid. For now, everything has its own development and time, including Bayern and Madrid because they are still a pretty good club, although for now Bayern must be a little underestimated especially with their poor performance in domestic competitions and currently the euphoria for Madrid is still quite high because they managed to beat Manchester City before.

Now all possibilities can still happen because after all, with the current situation of Madrid and Bayern in terms of players they are not much different even in terms of attack Bayern could be a little better because their style of play is the same as Manchester City but on the other hand Madrid is still Madrid with a mentality that cannot be underestimated because indeed until now Madrid is one of the clubs with the strongest mentality because of the experience they have.
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April 20, 2024, 02:45:54 PM
Real Madrid have no striker. But in this cup, they are again ambitious and very successful. The Champions League is always a different place for them. But I don't think a team playing without a striker can win the Champions League.

Paris Saint Germain have Mbappe. But they are a young and inexperienced team. I don't think they can win this cup either. They don't have enough experience yet.

I'm sure almost everyone gives Borussia Dortmund the least chance of winning the title.

Kane, Kimmich, Gnabry, Sane, Neuer. They've had bad results in the league this season. But they are a team of experienced players who play together with young players. I expect a surprise from Bayern Munich.
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