UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 23.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on June 01, 2024, 01:55:57 AM

Here's the line up.

Ancelotti is using a different strategy, now he rotate Bellingham to play in right wing position. Most of the time when he played in other position except attacking midfielder, he doesn't play really good, this is quite risky.

It is only the graphic and Jude will play in the middle of Real Madrid attacking system. Three attacking players of Real Madrid can rotate their positions on field but the central area will mainly belong to Jude as how he played for Real Madrid in this season. Rodrygo and Vinicius will rotate their swing positions with each other to create difficulty for Dortmund's defensive players.

Quote from: Helena Yu on June 01, 2024, 01:55:57 AM

Look at the bright side, this mean many people are believe in Dortmund, which make the odds become 5. And... this make Real Madrid odds increase, since you think Real Madrid will definitely win this match, don't miss to bet on Real Madrid.

This final match will be one of last best moments in Champions League for many old players in Real Madrid, Nacho, Carvajal, Kroos and Modric. Two of them will leave after this season, Nacho and Kroos and they will play as best as possible to enjoy their last match for Real Madrid, complete it with Champions League cup on their hands.

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While we are getting closer to the game between Dortmund and Real Madrid there are more rumors about this game.
I'm sure Dortmund is not a team to start attacking in the beginning and they prefer to start the game defensively and try their luck on the counter-attacks but if they just start playing defensively during whole this game, they won't get anything against a team like Real Madrid because in Real Madrid they have many superstar players in forwards and this can make it easier for Real Madrid to score a goal in this match.
Maybe it's the time for Dortmund to change its strategy for this match.

Your thoughts are similar to mine. I also say that Dortmund are not a team to attack in the beginning. As many important matches as we have seen from Dortmund this season, in almost every match we have seen that Dortmund's main goal was to keep their defense strong. And then counter attack to try to score. And even if the Dortmund team leads by 1 goal, they still start playing with bad defensive tactics. And it becomes more and more difficult for opponents to break Dortmund's defence.

Dortmund cannot win this match if they only play defensively. In addition to keeping the defense strong, the attack must also be carried out and attempts to score goals must be made. Madrid is a very experienced team. Terzić will have to adopt a different strategy if he wants to win against Madrid. If not, it will not be possible for Dortmund to beat Ancelotti's team.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on June 01, 2024, 01:55:57 AM

Here's the line up.

Ancelotti is using a different strategy, now he rotate Bellingham to play in right wing position. Most of the time when he played in other position except attacking midfielder, he doesn't play really good, this is quite risky.

It looks like Borussia Dortmund's chances have slightly increased because, in the Champions League Final, Real Madrid will play without their goalkeeper Andriy Lunin who is suffering from a cold at the moment, and, certainly, Aurelien Tchouameni has not yet recovered from his injury, so he couldn't appear in the final either.

Real Madrid still has Thibaut Courtois to replace Andriy Lunin but I think Courtois is still not at his best. The long injury he suffered made Courtois miss most of the season. In an important match like the Champions League final, the best should play but, Real Madrid currently has no option other than playing Thibaut Courtois.

I think the formation above is not necessarily played by Ancelotti because it could just used to confuse Dortmund and when kick-off came, it turned out that Real Madrid played a 4-3-1-2 tactic with Bellingham behind Vini and Rodrygo.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on June 01, 2024, 01:55:57 AM

Here's the line up.

Ancelotti is using a different strategy, now he rotate Bellingham to play in right wing position. Most of the time when he played in other position except attacking midfielder, he doesn't play really good, this is quite risky.

Quote from: Volgastallion on May 31, 2024, 01:25:50 PM

Im still wondering WHY Borusia Dortmund odds are only 5? and are 5 not for became champion, but for win in the regular time , total crazy, for me Borussia Dortmund odds cant be lower than 8.00 for that market.

Maybe what is happening is so much people is putting money on them so the odds are becoming lower and lowers waiting for a surprise.

Look at the bright side, this mean many people are believe in Dortmund, which make the odds become 5. And... this make Real Madrid odds increase, since you think Real Madrid will definitely win this match, don't miss to bet on Real Madrid.

I'd rather have Bellingham as CS than move him to right wing. Rodrygo is far more capable of this. Ancellotti may be plotting a surprise for the upcoming game. Dortmund employed an approach similar to that of Manchester City by using the same strategy. Expect Ancellotti to shuffle his players during the game and it seems like that bellingham can also play multi role in the upcoming game.

I believe Ancellotti was fully aware of Bellingham's poor performance as a winger. Ancellotti might be preparing something. This rotation is happening for a reason, but I'm just praying it's not another experiment by Ancelotti considering this is a very important match to be done by real madrid.
Dormtund was constantly using 4231. Real Madrid might possibly use 442 in a match against Bayern Munich.

As long as rudiger will be there and im very optimistic if real madrid's defensive line will be very strong. fullkrug may nothing when he must be facing rudiger. Even haalaand did nothing in the game against real madrid caused by him.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on June 01, 2024, 01:55:57 AM

Here's the line up.

Ancelotti is using a different strategy, now he rotate Bellingham to play in right wing position. Most of the time when he played in other position except attacking midfielder, he doesn't play really good, this is quite risky.

Good line-up coming from both managers, Carlo Ancelotti and Edin Terzic will shake hands in Wembley and it's going to be decisive based on their performance. Real Madrid will come out in full and come for the big winning. This is their cup and will they're ready to shaken their top rival. I'll not tender my opinion because I believe Carlo Ancelotti knows exactly what he's doing because he's experienced and facing Borrusia Dortmund is probably not the first tough opponents he has faced. Tonight, we crossed our legs and pops our popcorn and tater tots and good taste wines.

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Quote from: Asiska02 on May 31, 2024, 05:46:29 PM

All Real Madrid and non-Real Madrid fans are aware and know that Real Madrid are the best team to win the final match tomorrow but the situation of an unforeseen situation, is what makes people to also have hope in Dortmund that they can win the competition. It could just happen as a luck but you can’t still deny them the trophy after they’ve won.

Dortmund spirit of sportmanship, team strength and quality should not be underestimated because they can also be brutal when they use what they’ve have at hands well to their advantage. Dortmund can also win and we cannot overlook the situation if it warrants to be so.

I know that this two teams are showing the agility and confidence to secure a win tomorrow but it is only their team strength and collective effort in the match tomorrow that will determine who the winner of the champions league finals will be. Real Madrid still remains the favorites but Dortmund can always try their best.

If Real Madrid are real Champions, they would win the match today. Many people have hyped the team and say they are the best in the world. They are the team with the highest UCL title record and whenever they get to the UCL finals they don't miss the opportunity to win in the final. Well today is the big day let's see what they are made of.

The zeal Dortmund have for the final is something else. I don't think there will be any goal in the first half since Dortmund has equipped their defense line against Real Madid attackers. The formation am seeing and the connection between those players is good.

However, i am happy for today. This is because i won't be hearing any more speculations after the match are over. Right now, i am betting Madrid to win and under two goals in the game in my first bet slip and in the second one i am betting Dortmund to win and under two goals as well.

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Quote from: FinePoine0 on June 01, 2024, 01:50:27 AM

This match is the most competitive and reputation game, because to win the title in this season will require a lot of hard work and reputation. Real Madrid are currently known as hard-working players here, but you'll notice that Borussia Dortmund have made it to the final because of the hard-working team.
I still can't predict which team will win because the weaker teams are aggressive in the final matches. Because their willpower works solely towards winning, any player is prepared to perform well in order to win. So we have to wait till the end of the game which team will win and touch the title.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on June 01, 2024, 01:55:57 AM

Here's the line up.

Ancelotti is using a different strategy, now he rotate Bellingham to play in right wing position. Most of the time when he played in other position except attacking midfielder, he doesn't play really good, this is quite risky.

T. Courtois has indeed recovered, he started the champions league final although I have no doubts about Lunin as the second goalkeeper.

That's Ancelotti's strategy of an attacking midfielder turned right-wing winger, if this is not effective maybe Ancelotti will change the strategy again, but when there is trouble at the end Joselu is usually the savior. Grin

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Quote from: Helena Yu on June 01, 2024, 01:55:57 AM

Here's the line up.

Ancelotti is using a different strategy, now he rotate Bellingham to play in right wing position. Most of the time when he played in other position except attacking midfielder, he doesn't play really good, this is quite risky.

Quote from: Volgastallion on May 31, 2024, 01:25:50 PM

Im still wondering WHY Borusia Dortmund odds are only 5? and are 5 not for became champion, but for win in the regular time , total crazy, for me Borussia Dortmund odds cant be lower than 8.00 for that market.

Maybe what is happening is so much people is putting money on them so the odds are becoming lower and lowers waiting for a surprise.

Look at the bright side, this mean many people are believe in Dortmund, which make the odds become 5. And... this make Real Madrid odds increase, since you think Real Madrid will definitely win this match, don't miss to bet on Real Madrid.

This is really going to be a tough match,I am on the side that Dortmund will draw them,it will be like a shocker to Madrid how this game will end, because I'm going for Dortmund win or draw in my bet slip.Sancho will be the Man of the match with his performance tonight,and I can't wait to watch them play.
Ancelotti have arranged the team in a way that he thinks will be suitable for him to win today's match,and that how Dortmund have arranged themselves too,and I think they will more focused on defending Madrid than making possession,they will be focused on counter attacking Madrid when the chances comes.

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Here's the line up.

Ancelotti is using a different strategy, now he rotate Bellingham to play in right wing position. Most of the time when he played in other position except attacking midfielder, he doesn't play really good, this is quite risky.

Quote from: Volgastallion on May 31, 2024, 01:25:50 PM

Im still wondering WHY Borusia Dortmund odds are only 5? and are 5 not for became champion, but for win in the regular time , total crazy, for me Borussia Dortmund odds cant be lower than 8.00 for that market.

Maybe what is happening is so much people is putting money on them so the odds are becoming lower and lowers waiting for a surprise.

Look at the bright side, this mean many people are believe in Dortmund, which make the odds become 5. And... this make Real Madrid odds increase, since you think Real Madrid will definitely win this match, don't miss to bet on Real Madrid.

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This match will be the most competitive match with Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund team. Because both the teams have worked hard and waited for a long time and then confirmed to play the match in the final. So after just few hours this match will be played tomorrow as everyone is requested to watch this match as very tough and competitive game will be played.

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Quote from: Ajpa94 on June 01, 2024, 12:39:03 AM

Real Madrid is indeed a team that is called the king of the Champions League. Everyone knows that Real Madrid are favorites against Borussia Dortmund in today's UEFA Champions League match. Real Madrid has been termed as the king of the league because it has built itself up with its wins, thus becoming a team loved by all. But, this is the game of football so the expected outcome of the game can change at any time.

In football anything is possible to happen and what happened in the Europa League final this season can be a reference that it is also possible to happen in the Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund Champions League final tonight.

It's natural that Real Madrid is the favorite because they are superior in all aspects compared to Borussia Dortmund, both in terms of mentality and team quality, but I'm sure the final will be fiercer than predicted, Real Madrid is the favorite but they won't it's easy in the next match.

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Real Madrid is indeed a team that is called the king of the Champions League. Everyone knows that Real Madrid are favorites against Borussia Dortmund in today's UEFA Champions League match. Real Madrid has been termed as the king of the league because it has built itself up with its wins, thus becoming a team loved by all. But, this is the game of football so the expected outcome of the game can change at any time.

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Dortmund did deserve to be here with the season they had, but I still do not give them a single chance.

I agree with you, if dortmund were playing another team I would have given them a chance as well, playing against an in form, fit and daring to go Madrid team in the champions league final.

In some way, I feel dortmund will put up a fight, maybe a 3-1 defeat

Both teams are in good form, and Dortmund is a club that is fighting hard to reach the final, just like Real Madrid, they are both the best at the moment by making it to the Champions final, if we look at both teams have good performance very good players in carrying it out skill, and this is really needed to find opportunities to score goals.

It's very true as you said, if you look at the best at the moment, Real Madrid is superior to Dortmund, but this is the final match where both teams will play with high tension to fight for the title without exception, here everything is still open to becoming champion, so This match is difficult to determine the champion because both teams have played very well this season.

No, only Real Madrid is in good form because Dortmund can reach the final because they are lucky to only get team that is not that strong in the quarter-finals or semifinals and if Dortmund gets strong opponent then it is certain that they will not reach the final.
In the quarter-finals they only met Atletico Madrid, who are an unstable team this season from La Liga, for the semifinals themselves, they met PSG, who played very well but were unable to take advantage of all the opportunities available.
If in the semifinals PSG can play well and be really careful then all the opportunities that exist can become goals, Dortmund is clearly under pressure in that match, but I applaud Dortmund tenacity in every previous match.

Match will take place in less than 24 hours and we can see for ourselves how the two teams play, some people are so confident in Dortmund that they even think Dortmund can beat Real Madrid.
But I myself would never think like that because beating Real Madrid is very difficult, even team like Manchester City, which I previously favored and has many great players, seemed unable to keep up with Real Madrid game.
Real Madrid is the top team and they will definitely be the team that will win the UCL title this season.

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Im still wondering WHY Borusia Dortmund odds are only 5? and are 5 not for became champion, but for win in the regular time , total crazy, for me Borussia Dortmund odds cant be lower than 8.00 for that market.

Maybe what is happening is so much people is putting money on them so the odds are becoming lower and lowers waiting for a surprise.

Maybe the oddsmaker knows that a lot of people will place a bet in favor of Borussia Dortmund, and they are afraid of losing so much money if Borussia Dortmund shocks the world and beats Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League finals. That is the reason why the oddsmaker didn't give Borussia Dortmund much odds to beat Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League finals.

It sounds funny to me how people give Dortmund a high chance of winning this league title because I don’t see any sign or performance that will convince me to agree that Dortmund are going to win this league, even though we know that the same thing that happened to Leverkusen can happen here tomorrow, but still, I won’t give Dortmund a high chance that they will be the winner of this match. The oddsmaker just did this in favour of them and nothing more than that.

If not, I believe they also know that Dortmund will not win Real Madrid. Real Madrid are fully ready for this match, and I’m very sure they will get this title, so let’s wait and see how it will turn out tomorrow. Since I can see that most of us already believe that Dortmund are going to win the league, we should not conclude on one thing for now. Let's see the result tomorrow.

Everyone knows that Real Madrid is the favorite to win against Borussia Dortmund in today's UEFA Champions League competition. Even though Real Madrid is the favorite, we shouldn't forget that this is football and unexpected results can happen. The Borussia Dortmund coach knows the history of Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League competition, and he will know the kind of tactics to deploy against Real Madrid that will give Borussia Dortmund a winning chance against Real Madrid. In the two European finals played so far, the underdogs won the trophy, so people are expecting the same thing to happen in the UEFA Champions League finals.

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Quote from: bitgolden on May 31, 2024, 03:44:22 PM

Dortmund did deserve to be here with the season they had, but I still do not give them a single chance.

I agree with you, if dortmund were playing another team I would have given them a chance as well, playing against an in form, fit and daring to go Madrid team in the champions league final.

In some way, I feel dortmund will put up a fight, maybe a 3-1 defeat

Both teams are in good form, and Dortmund is a club that is fighting hard to reach the final, just like Real Madrid, they are both the best at the moment by making it to the Champions final, if we look at both teams have good performance very good players in carrying it out skill, and this is really needed to find opportunities to score goals.

It's very true as you said, if you look at the best at the moment, Real Madrid is superior to Dortmund, but this is the final match where both teams will play with high tension to fight for the title without exception, here everything is still open to becoming champion, so This match is difficult to determine the champion because both teams have played very well this season.

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Quote from: Asiska02 on May 31, 2024, 05:46:29 PM

All Real Madrid and non-Real Madrid fans are aware and know that Real Madrid are the best team to win the final match tomorrow but the situation of an unforeseen situation, is what makes people to also have hope in Dortmund that they can win the competition. It could just happen as a luck but you can’t still deny them the trophy after they’ve won.

It's normal if Real Madrid win the final match and lift the trophy, the fifteenth Champions League trophy in their club history. It will be big shock if Dortmund beat Real Madrid in anyway and lift the trophy to become one of little clubs in Europe with 2 Champions League titles in history of Champions League. There are only five clubs with 2 Champions League titles and there are 8 clubs with more than 2 Champions League titles.

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Dortmund spirit of sportmanship, team strength and quality should not be underestimated because they can also be brutal when they use what they’ve have at hands well to their advantage. Dortmund can also win and we cannot overlook the situation if it warrants to be so.

Dortmund have very strong mentality and their spirit of a united team is very strong. This will be a biggest strength they have for the final match, to play against a most successful club in Champions League history and one of strongest teams in Europe this season.

Defense will be key foundation for Dortmund's chance to constrain Real Madrid power and find opportunity to win this final.

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I know that this two teams are showing the agility and confidence to secure a win tomorrow but it is only their team strength and collective effort in the match tomorrow that will determine who the winner of the champions league finals will be. Real Madrid still remains the favorites but Dortmund can always try their best.

I would like to have final match lasts as long as possible, with many goals to entertain tomorrow. So if they drag each other to extra half and play 120 minutes, it's not a bad final match but I want to see goals, some fantastic goals in this match.

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Quote from: ampere on May 31, 2024, 05:40:51 PM

Quote from: bitgolden on May 31, 2024, 03:44:22 PM

Dortmund did deserve to be here with the season they had, but I still do not give them a single chance.

I agree with you, if dortmund were playing another team I would have given them a chance as well, playing against an in form, fit and daring to go Madrid team in the champions league final.

In some way, I feel dortmund will put up a fight, maybe a 3-1 defeat

You underestimate Dortmund too much, Ancelotti, who manages Real Madrid, does not dare to underestimate the strength that Dortmund has, he will try to field his best squad to face Dortmund, which has given many surprises this season. Real Madrid has a good squad, they are also a team with a winning mentality, but things that can never be predicted before the match can happen. Dortmund has huge motivation to win the final match, Real Madrid's strength means they will appear more careful and try to repeat their success in the semifinals.

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Quote from: ampere on May 31, 2024, 05:40:51 PM

Quote from: bitgolden on May 31, 2024, 03:44:22 PM

Dortmund did deserve to be here with the season they had, but I still do not give them a single chance.

I agree with you, if dortmund were playing another team I would have given them a chance as well, playing against an in form, fit and daring to go Madrid team in the champions league final.

In some way, I feel dortmund will put up a fight, maybe a 3-1 defeat

Yeah right. In fact, Real Madrid's condition has actually become better compared to last season, it will make it even more difficult for Dortmund to be able to provide resistance in the final match. But Dortmund was able to get to the final because of their hard work. So we will definitely see an advantage that Dortmund will show in the final match. Hopefully the final match will be quite a fierce match. I don't want to see a final match that looks easy to win like Atalanta who looked so easy to beat Leverkusen in the Final. And I hope that in the Champions League Final both of them can give their best and make the match more interesting. But I know that every UCL Final always presents interesting and fierce matches. It's no surprise that in several seasons there has only been 1 goal in the Champions League final. But maybe this time I'm sure there will be at least 2 goals in the match.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on May 31, 2024, 07:30:21 PM

No one do give Dortmund a chance against Real Madrid. We are all expecting Real Madrid to trash Dortmund and that is how it is supposed to be. But one exciting thing that you make me to watch this match with all amount of carefulness is that champions league has never stopped the surprise anyone. You never can tell this could be the highest shocker of the Champions League. Going to watch the match, I am not going to see how Real Madrid will win Dortmund. I am going to see how possible it will be for Dortmund to surprise Real Madrid and the whole world.

Yeah we have been waiting for this match and finally in the next few hours this match will start. I have also been paying attention to the betting markets since the last few weeks and there are indeed slight changes previously on the 1x2 betting market Real Madrid win was 1.63 and today it changed slightly to 1.65 meaning some gamblers shifted their bets to the other side and I understand this is the impact of some surprises in other finals such as the European League and recently the Conference League when the favorite team is defeated.

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