Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 26. (Read 141700 times)

No worries, I am very well aware of what I am talking about and scoring goals against Atletico in a Champions League quarterfinal when they took the lead in aggregate is a 100 times harder than it is in La Liga. That's why I am not a friend of drawing on La Liga statistics. It doesn't make sense to draw on league statistics as you can clearly see this season alone. Dortmund finished 5th in the Bundesliga. And what?

I guess nobody forgot who got eliminated by Atletico Madrid: it was the super strong finalist from last season and the overwhelming Serie A champion Inter Milan. If it were to work the way you now presented, then something must be wrong

But don't get me wrong, I know that this Atletico is not the Atletico from a few years ago. Still I think they can switch into a different mode in the Champions League and I find that quite normal.

Hoping that Dortmund comes out the winners is on a very slim chance and i don't really see that happening because Madrid isn't going to allow that happen because they are too experienced enough to just letting Dortmund get a victory like that and if it eventually happens, they are making sure its not going to be an easy game for them to just get an easy win but then i know that Madrid is going to make sure they are able to get this trophy by almost every means possible as they are more experienced and are like the top team between them and their contender.

by almost all taught been shared about this game, Madrid still keeps appearing as the favorite and has a better chance of which I'm rooting for them as well

Scoring two goals against Atlético is not nearly as difficult as it was 3-4 years ago. By comparison, Atlético have conceded 43 goals in 38 games in La Liga this season, while Real have conceded just 26. And here we must remember that, relative to half of the La Liga teams, Atlético is head and shoulders above, and Real received most of the goals they conceded when they had already officially become champions and were playing with the second team.
We’ll see how it turns out in a little more than a day, personally, I’ll take a risk and since I have some free money, I’ll bet on Real winning in regular time with a handicap (-1 and -2).

I think this can be understood, because in the last few matches Ancelotti has rotated more players with the second tier squad, considering that Real Madrid has succeeded in winning the La Liga trophy. It could be said that Real Madrid is no longer forcing match results, and is more focused on facing the Champions League final. Meanwhile, Dortmund must try their best in the Bundesliga, because they aim to finish in the Champions League zone. Apart from that, I don't think the number of goals conceded can be used as a complete benchmark, but I agree that the match Real Madrid versus Dortmund will be fierce.

From the many predictions that we have seen, Real Madrid is the favorite team to win, so that Ancelotti squad has the potential to win the 15th Champions League trophy. However, all of these predictions could be wrong and be broken if Dortmund manages to create a surprise, as is the case occurred in the previous Europa League final. We believe that when Real Madrid makes it to the final, they will be very difficult to beat, but in football there are always surprises. As for the course of the match, it is very likely that it will be tougher in the second half, especially if Real Madrid falls behind first.

I'm not sure betting after the start of the game would be the right choice... There is always a risk that a quick goal could happen... It is better to make several bets, before the game and after the start, when it will be clear how the teams are playing...


I don't think there will be a surprise in this final... First Atalanta beat Leverkusen, then Olympiacos won the Euro trophy for the first time... Madrid will make no mistakes in this final... Although it will be funny if all three finals are won by non-favorites...

The Champions League final may not have the same unexpected results as the finals of other league tournaments because the Champions League finalists are Real Madrid and Real Madrid's opponents are Dortmund. Right now there is no injury problem in Real Madrid and Real Madrid will field their best XI in the final match so there is no chance of all the players of this reliable XI performing poorly together so we unofficially expect that Real Madrid is the champion in this Champions League tournament so far.

Im still wondering WHY Borusia Dortmund odds are only 5? and are 5 not for became champion, but for win in the regular time , total crazy, for me Borussia Dortmund odds cant be lower than 8.00 for that market.

Maybe what is happening is so much people is putting money on them so the odds are becoming lower and lowers waiting for a surprise.

I think Dortmund's match strategy will be the same in the final. Edin Terzić will not change his old defensive tactics. But maybe you can adopt a new strategy to break the defense of Real Madrid. However, Dortmund's overall gameplay will be defensive.

I think this is because Dortmund's attack is not strong enough. And if Dortmund plays attacking strategy, it will be more difficult for Dortmund's players to resist Madrid's counter attacks. Moreover, Dortmund coach Edin Terzić is well aware of the weakness of Dortmund's attack. And this is why Dortmund will keep their defense tight. They will not attempt too many attacks. And Edin Terzić's main target will be to stop Madrid's players.

I fancy the Dortmund team very much this season with how they have been quite strong to survive right from the group stage that they were in the group death to this point of finals. Am sure not a lot of people predicted them to play in the finals unlike Real Madrid that had the favourite aura with them right from the beginning of the season.

Looking at all the great teams Dortmund had to conquer through teams such as Milan, Atletico Madrid, and especially PSG, I think they deserve all the respect they're getting in prospect to them winning Real Madrid on Saturday. Dortmund has the agility to go physical with Real Madrid in this game.

However, it's important that we don't forget in a hurry that this Real Madrid team is also one with one of the best  strong defense in this competition as well as with good attackers and with a coach full of a winning mentality tactics. They are currently the best team in Spain (currently crowned Laliga champions), if not the world. Nevertheless, I wish to keep my mind open on this game as I don't want to be too quick to pick a side yet till the first 45 minutes of the game is dusted.

I won't go for double chance, the odds are not high. 90 minutes Draw or straight winning is where the money is. For Both teams one will definitely score, if Real Madrid score first, it will make the Dortmund side to come out and force the attack. Madrid is attacking minded, while Dortmund are defensive minded, so any case goals must come out. I can Boldly go for a straight win for Real Madrid, because that is the angle i see more goals coming out from tomorrow night.

If Both teams don't score just as you've said, then the game will fall back to the playing pattern of Dortmund, as they can miraculously get an opportunity to score especially towards the Twilight of the 90 minutes.

Based on data from the last 5 matches between each team, Real Madrid and Dortmund, Dortmund only conceded a few goals, while Real Madrid conceded a lot of goals, even though in the end they were able to win every match. We can conclude that the strength of Dortmund's defense cannot be underestimated, of course this will make it difficult for El-Real to penetrate it. So I think the upcoming match between Real Madrid vs Dortmund will be a very competitive and tense final match.

That can be an option but I think it will only reduce the odds especially when the game has started then indirectly we can see different movements of the odds which is certainly a little disadvantageous I think.
If the choice is already made in favor of one of the clubs I think it's a good idea to bet in the pre-match conditions and I would personally do that because although I realize it's not easy, I'm still pretty confident Madrid can win this one.

Waiting until midway through the first half or even in the second half would only reduce the betting probability. However, this is also up to each person's preference as this is also considered one of the strategies to feel comfortable in betting so this is not a problem but in this match I will do it before the pre-match because I feel quite optimistic about Madrid.

Everyone of course has their own predictions and expectations in the final, when you say there is no guarantee Dortmund can win in the match of course this also applies to Madrid even though they are a strong and consistent team this season, Madrid is of course a strong favorite to win the final but we also cannot underestimate Dortmund who are a surprise team in the final later,  I personally assess if indeed the favorite team also has no guarantee to win in football and of course we can see a lot of history so far the favorite team had to suffer a painful defeat from the mediocrity team so far.

Apart from Madrid which is the favorite team but still they still have weaknesses that maybe Dortmund will be able to take advantage of later, in football of course there is no team that cannot be beaten and of course we can see how Madrid this season can be beaten by Atletico Madrid in the league and also the Copa del Rey, then how can we say if Dortmund will not be able to beat them later in the final?

Or those who are defending score a goal on a counterattack and then we watch how they defend until the end of the match. But I doubt that Terzic will want to play like that in the final, I understand that any methods are suitable for achieving victory, and in the end only victory matters, but the final is a special match and teams get there for a reason, this is a match that millions will watch, and spending most of the match on the defensive is not the best strategy, as the team will definitely be considered weaker.

Dortmund are weaker and they know about danger from Real Madrid attacking players so they will choose to play defensive, not attacking. Before the match starts and happens several minutes, we can not know how serious defensive Dortmund will play in the final. They are familiar with pressure from attacks of stronger opponents like Atletico Madrid and PSG, and this will help them in the final.

I believe Dortmund will not only pay attention on defense but will try to wait and find opportunities from counter attacks. They know that if they can defend well and take advantage of counter attacks to exploit Real Madrid's defense system, they can win the final without penalty shoot outs. Winning in 90 minutes is better than playing 30 extra minutes and wait for luckiness from penalty shoot outs.

Pay attention to the odds, are they worth the risk you are going to take?
It might be fine if you're just having fun betting $1 to $5 on your picks, but for me it's just a waste of time if you really want real fun.

Odds of 1.66 for Real Madrid to win in 90 minutes are very good in my opinion. Real Madrid is superior in many aspects including squad depth and experience in the final. Real Madrid will not make a big mistake that will ruin its reputation against Dortmund, but whatever it is you should still bet an amount you can afford to lose.

If it were me, then I would choose odds of 1.66 for Real Madrid to win. The risk of defeat seems low to consider considering many best things about Real Madrid. But for some people, betting on both teams not scoring for 90 minutes is a fun thing to try.

Bus parking strategy, it's boring for those watching. But can we prevent coaches who try to implement this strategy even though we have paid for a subscription service to watch the match? Coaches apply this boring strategy to win or secure their chance to going to the next round. Of course I feel the same, defensive strategy is boring. Usually, if the coach implementing this defensive strategy, but they are concedes a goal, the rhythm will start to change, and we will see a more interesting match. But, if someone applies a defensive, but they are able to scoring goal, the match will be more boring.

Once the whistle sounds everything will be answered and you can clearly see the difference in power between the two. However for now I am also a bit holding back whether Madrid can win easily or Dortmund can actually present lots of surprises. Both the quality and quantity in Madrid final are hard to beat, Madrid always manages to find a way to turn things around. Dortmund without our knowledge, is preparing as best as possible and ensuring that each line of defense is not caught off guard. Turning off Vinicius and Rodrygo was the key to stemming Real Madrid's aggressive attacks. So as long as Dortmund can guard these 2 players, their chances increase but this must be balanced with the effectiveness of their attacks.

regardless of the fact that playing defensively is boring and we pay for tickets or pay TV to watch beautiful games full of goals, but if you play defensively sooner or later you make a mistake and they score a goal
I don`t consider it a healthy strategy
however, playing too offensively exposes you to counter attacks and counter-foots, so in my opinion we need balance and if we want Real Madrid is more balanced as a team

The first part of your message here made me smile because I agree, Dortmund might utterly shock! No joke!

When we only consider all the obvious things, then sure Real Madrid is set to win their next title and Ancelotti is the right guy in the right place at the right point in time.

But in a game like this I think it doesn't really matter who you are up against. It doesn't matter whether it is Bayern Munich or Borussia Dortmund or PSG. See how Bayern Munich performed in the Bundesliga and it was extremely close, if not unfair if you take into account this mysterious referee decision where they decided offside within a blink of an eye against all rules.

But ok, it is what it is for now and Real Madrid knows how Dortmund played at 150% their capacity against Atletico Madrid and PSG. Add some luck into the equation.

Real Madrid has the edge and nobody would doubt that, but Dortmund has something, too. It is the fact that nobody believes they can do it except for their own hardcore fans maybe. Real Madrid could be caught surprise. See, early corner for Dortmund and Hummels scores one of these important headers. All is good, early in the game, still time to come back. But now players like Adeyemi could play some deadly counter attacks.

These games are meant to write history for everyone, for the players and for the fans. Everyone believes to know that it is hardly worth watching the game if you will. Of course everyone will watch it, but I am referring to the outcome and that it's decided already. But I am not so sure. Would I be brave enough to put my money on Dortmund? No  But I think it is going to be a very enjoyable game. Dortmund has some options here.

But really no doubt here that Dortmund needs the best game of the season. It was great against Atletico, it was even better against PSG, and now the time has come for them to play a flawless game and hope for some luck that this or that chance is a goal when on another day they would instead hit the post or the cross bar. I am excited and can't wait. Very good to know that none of the teams has any injuries I believe? I always hope for teams in a final to be able to bring on their best squads.