Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 277. (Read 141888 times)

Yes indeed, because changes will always occur and thus, then of course there will always be transformations that occur because they will also not forever be able to have players like Gundogan and not forever Gundogan is at Manchester City. Therefore, this season Manchester City is really getting a difficult pressure because the competition is not as easy or smooth or as good as last season because Manchester City also got the treble winner last season. But yes, as we realize that this season Manchester City still cannot guarantee to get the trophy because yes, the competition is becoming more difficult and at the same time Manchester City's performance is not as good as last season.

Gundogan became an important pillar for Manchester City when they won every title in the league or Champions League so far, but Manchester City is still Manchester City who are not dependent on one individual player in the squad, at this time I think Manchester City are no longer sad when they lose Gundogan, because after all there are some players who can indeed continue to give their best performance in helping Manchester City to victory,   Manchester City are now in a tough competition in the league, FA and Champions League so Guardiola must be able to rotate his squad well for now.

Against Madrid, it will definitely be a difficult game for Manchester City, I think the game against Madrid will be a test for Guardiola to continue to maintain their consistency, besides that the draw from Arsenal in the league certainly benefits Madrid and I think at the moment Madrid may have pocketed the gap from Manchester City weakness, making it possible for Ancelotti to exploit that weakness to get the victory as well as revenge for their failure last season.

Yeah, their performance is surely not as we have in last season things are looking surely some down specially with their attack which is having no power which was expected and their performance against Liverpool and Arsenal were also not good which is clearly indicating Real Madrid is going to be the toughest opponent for them in this game and if they are going to have no goals from their attack then surely things can go against them in this quarterfinal even we can expect their elimination as well.

Even Real Madrid is also having some troubling time but still they are much better and well-balanced because they are giving their opponents no space and their track record is also much better than Manchester City so it's going to be one of the most exciting matches in coming quarterfinals for the soccer fans.

I wouldn't exaggerate Gudogan's impact on the Manchester City team. He played an amazing season 22/23 and he would be missed a lot if Manchester City didn't have any alternative players who can fill that gap, but they do have a variety of players with very high quality that can replace him. There was a mutual benefit for both Manchester City and Gundogan. Just look how he is playing for Barcelona now. He is doing ok and he is still a great player, but you can see that his performance changed for the worse ever since he left Manchester City. So it is not only about Gundogan being so good, it is also about Manchester City as a whole being so good that Gundogan's game benefitted a lot from all the other players as well.

Most of the peoples are missing this with Bellingham is not alone in Real Madrid as in last few years we have good strategy from the Carlos Ancelotti which is doing impressive job for the Real Madrid, and now they are having good depth in their game which is helping them for having better results in absence of one-star player they are having enough players those can give them good results, and they can keep things on their best which is surely one of the best thing we have in Real Madrid.

Now in coming first leg game which is going to play at the Santiago Bernabéu where we have just one win for the Manchester City four years back but still mostly we have narrow wins for the Real Madrid but now this time they need to be had better performance and good win because things could be not easy in second leg game which will be at the Etihad Stadium but still most chances we will have Real Madrid much better side then Manchester City in this season.

Because this match will be tough enough that the two clubs will meet early, so whether the double chance bet will be better than the 1X2 bet or both teams score.

I am quite confused because it is difficult to predict, but I think this bet will be more likely to win even though it is risky because it is a bet so the risk will always be there.

Haven't decided which bet to choose yet, but who knows the bookies change the odds because there are a few league matches they have to play.

We’re approaching the Quarter finals of the UCL And this stage is where we’ve got the big boys which makes it kind of hard for us to be able to predict this is because the clubs in this stage are playoffs similar football. Yes and we know the surprises that comes up when we get to this stage of the UCL as we can see some big surprise team going through.

 ⁠Yes home advantage is one big plus in this round of the competition and as such I have high hopes on Real Madrid and Arsenal being able to win their home matches. For the return legs, yes Bayern Munich could defeat Arsenal and then the aggregate scores will be used to know who goes through. For Manchester City, I don’t see them being able to defeat Madrid at the Etihad this season again.

 Yes because Real Madrid are a better team as compared to them last season. They’ll be able to give Manchester City some worried especially their reinforced midfield and swift attackers as against a Manchester City defense that’s now being affected with injuries. This part of this competition promises to be interesting especially with these categories of teams competing as they’re all top teams in their respective leagues. Well we can’t wait for the entertainment to begin as this will get most football fans glued to their screen and phones so as not to miss out on any of thr action.

The entire Manchester City team misses Gundogan because just as you said, he is very special and have some tactics if an old experienced player which has been helping Manchester City for long, but as they loses him, they did not have perfect replacement for him yet that’s why when ever they have more than one or two players injured, they do suffer for a while before they get fit again.
They also missed Maharaz as he was also a good player that is contributing positively to the team, he is better than Grilish, only Foden comes close to his ability.

Manchester City’s chance of qualifying to the next round depends on their performance because Madrid is also a good team with equal hope of qualifying to the next round; although Madrid have good Champions League experience, but Pep knows how to play them as we have seen last season.

I cannot agree with you. But you are right that Joselu has played an important role in several matches. and helped Madrid to victory. But Vini and ROdrygo have helped Madrid to victory in very few matches. I am not saying that these two players perform badly. But I have not seen Vini and Rodrygo perform consistently well. Bellingham is now the only one in Madrid's squad to consistently perform well in every match. Besides, every player's performance is erratic.

Joselu is a talented player. But I doubt Ancelotti will keep Joselu in his starting XI. Coach Ancelotti will keep Vini and Rodrygo in Madrid's starting XI. And it cannot be said for sure whether these two players can play well. Because I do not see any consistency in the performance of these two players. However, Madrid won due to Vini's excellent performance in several matches.

It cannot be denied that Gundogan departure had an impact on Man City performance. The reason is whether we realize it or not, Gundogan leadership at Man City has succeeded in creating balance. Not only that, his quality on the field is very great, Gundogan is one of the players who has struggled at Man City from point zero. I still remember before Gundogan said this before he left, that Man City achievement last season with the treble winner was Gundogan contribution.
Until now, that kind of leadership has disappeared from Man City hands. I also won't forget Mahrez who also went to the SPL and to be honest Mahrez also has the same role as Gundogan. So, is this a sign for Man City that they will lose their position as defending champions?

Most gamblers will probably refrain from betting on either team in the Real Madrid vs Manchester City match. Betting on this match is definitely risky as the opponents are Real Madrid and Manchester City. You cannot put any team ahead of any team in betting and if you put any team ahead the results will go against you because either team can win the match between Manchester City and Real Madrid. With a minute to play you can't be sure which team will win as Manchester City and Real Madrid certainly have the ability to extend the lead or get back on level terms with goals in the blink of an eye. As there are many more matches in the Champions League, other matches may be right for us to bet on.

We are getting closer to the game between Macnshter City and Real Madrid but it seems the sad thing for Macnshter City before this match is about this player Nathan Aké. In the game they had against Arenal recently, Nathan Aké got injured and he couldn't continue the game because he had to leave in the first half.
I think Guardiola can have a harder day now against Real Madrid especially when we know Real Madrid is currently in the good form and can beat any team easily.

After Gundogan left, this does not mean that Manchester City's strength immediately underwent changes that made it difficult for the defending champions to maintain their performance this season. His departure cannot be a setback in the Manchester City squad, there are still other players who can replace Gundogan's role very well.

Pep Guardiola is not too bothered by Gundogan's departure, he will continue to do his best so that Manchester City can defend the title this season. The squad this season is still very solid, Manchester City is still considered the favorite team in this competition. Currently Guardiola is focusing on the opponents his team will face, Real Madrid will carry out a mission of revenge in this match. If they succeed in beating Real Madrid like they did last season, there is a big possibility that Manchester City will win this prestigious trophy again.

The current odds for Real Madrid - Manchester City game are:



Manchester City are favoured even at Santiago Bernabeu by a slight margin indeed. After recent performances by Real Madrid in the tournament I understand bookmakers about not showing Real Madrid as the favourite here. I wouldn't place a bet on a side for this game but in the rematch it would make more sense. 

The odds for double chance are like below. 1.56 is quite nice for Real Madrid or draw. I feel like Real Madrid won't lose home at least but it is hard to predict whether it would be a win or draw. I'm closer to draw though but double chance would be a little safer but still a risky bet of course.

The fight between Manchester City and Real Madrid is something that everyone is talking about, but the fact that Manchester City's performance is not the same as last season's performance gives me some doubt that they will be the winner and not Real Madrid, and the fact that Real Madrid has a good record in the Champions League also makes me believe that Real Madrid is going to do everything in their power to continue keeping that record again. This game cannot be predicted because both teams are doing well, so predicting who is going to win is something I think will be difficult to do.

However, from what happened to Manchester City and Arsenal, you will know Manchester City are also not in their best form, the way people are thinking, because if Manchester City were playing like last, they would win that match, but they failed to do that because they are in their best form compared to last season's performance, so the Champions League competition this season is also tough, so guys, let's see how their match will go because, as we were talking when Manchester City was about to play with Arsenal last week in the Premier League. 

Yes, there is no longer Gundogan at Man City, but they are still a strong and productive team to this day. Many parties still favor Man City even though they have to face tough opponents in the next match.
some players may have changed from last season. but Man City still has Guardiola. he is the real brain who is very dangerous for every Man City opponent.

Man City may be facing problems in their team at the moment when facing strong teams. Their last few matches were held to draws by Arsenal and Liverpool. and facing Madrid will certainly be a tough test for Man City.

Manchester City lose Gundogan this season, and you are gonna say me..... so well, is only one player among others. And yes but he has a special habilitie and that was to beccome a beast in important matches and also score important and decisive goals, and now Manchester City doesnt have that player anymore.

Still have Rodri Bernardo Silva and Julian Alvarez who also has this hability, but Gundogan was very special doing that job.

The double chance odds is small, around @1.30 - @1.60.

This match draw is may likely to happen, so it's quite risky to bet Real Madrid to win. I would bet for under 2.5 because based on history, when the match held in Real Madrid's home, they didn't score many goals.

Currently Manchester City is the favorite, but we still have six days, odds swing could happen.

I agree that Man City was not as good as last season. It could even be said that Man City's attack line this season is not as sharp as last season. Because maybe the help from the midfield is not that strong this season. And it seems that Gundogan's departure will still have an impact, even though it is a fairly subtle impact. Haaland this season is also not as sharp as last season. It's just that in possession of the ball and speed of attack I still see Man City at the same level as last season. But in making breakthrough passes to bombard the opponent's defense, I saw Man City experiencing a decline. Because in the match against Arsenal we can see that Man City always has difficulty completing their attacks. Real Madrid might have to take advantage of this. But even so, I think the level of these two teams is still the same.

I feel exactly the same way. What irritates me is that Manchester City supporters constantly act as though their team is the greatest, but they forget that it's just a season. I'm confident that they won't win any trophies this season because Madrid will play well in the Champions League and Arsenal or Liverpool will play in the Premier League. They play against Madrid while grinning, but I know they're scared.

And as everyone is aware, their players are talented, and Foden is a young, skilled player who plays professionally. If you ask me, Madrid is the team I'm rooting for because they won't let Manchester City pass them by. Last season is not this season so the city should stop fooling there self Nothing for them this season.