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Quote from: Helena Yu on December 13, 2023, 09:48:51 AM

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That's garbage coach. MU is having the worst coach on its history.

Ronaldo was correct Wink

Manchester United with Ronaldo don't have to looking for a new striker, while right now every strikers in Manchester United are complete garbage, McTominay which is a defensive midfielder can score more goals than the striker, what a shame.

Manchester United with Ten Hag, he keep breaking a record by signing Onana and having the worst result in Champions League.

Cristiano Ronaldo calling out the club was right only that he was under under contract with em which lead to mutual agreement over the contract termination.

Erik Ten Hag was also disrespectful to Cristiano Ronaldo, that I agree. What I don't agree is the fact that too many fans calls Erik Ten Hag a bad manager. If they could do better, then they should take them certificate's and apply for the job and do a better job than the dutch man.
Scott is being given and backed to attack more than Bruno Fernandez, it's the reason why you see, the performance of Bruno Fernandez declining. People who knows ball can not say that Onana is a bad goalkeeper.

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I think that Erik ten Hag is getting closer to the end of his Manchester United career after this result. Because they were hoped to win against Bayern Munich at Old Trafford as Bayern Munich have already guaranteed the leadership in Group A. I wasn't expecting Bayern Munich to bring most of their main players to tell the truth. But they did it and this helped them win the match as well. I mean that Copenhagen still stole 1 point from Bayern Munich with the same squad.

Manchester United couldn't do that. Erik ten Hag even defended that poor performance as if they actually played well. I guess he did it not to give anything to the media.

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Quote from: Bobrox on December 13, 2023, 11:50:38 AM

Manchester City have updated starting eleven and Pep Guardiola make more than 80% rotation for last Champion League group stage round match against Crvena zvezda. There are not Erling Haaland on starting eleven or bench and Pep Guardiola used youth player for attacking line from Oscar Bobb and Rico Lewis. On defender have Pep Guardiola make rotation with Kyle Walker right defender position fill by Micah Hamilton
and seems become first debut for many youth Manchester City player. I have put Manchester City in the list team winning without looking before current line up, will youth players and first experience as starting eleven in Champion League make easy for winning?

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It looks like Pep Guardiola is not targeting to win in this last match, even though the opponent he faces is Crvena zvezda who is at the bottom of the standings but yes, Pep Guardiola does not want to force his main players to keep playing. After all, with rotation like this it also provides a good opportunity for young Manchetser City players, but even so I'm sure there is no target to win for Manchester City in this match.

But yes, because young players get the opportunity to be able to play in the starting eleven then of course, they will still play well. At least, with opportunities like this, of course, young players will show the quality they have, and of course it will be a good consideration for them to get more minutes to play in other matches later. After all, basically Manchester City have also been confirmed to qualify for the last 16, at least Pep Guardiola also still has to have a good focus on the Premier League which also has difficult competition at this moment.

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Quote from: samuraijin on December 13, 2023, 09:14:28 AM

It looks like your hopes won't come true, because AC Milan is in bad shape in their last few matches, not only in the Champions League, they are also going through difficult times in Serie A, so it's no surprise that AC Milan and Newcastle are far from qualifying, it looks like they will be thrown into Europa League, even though both of them have given their best in the matches they have played in the last few matches.

PSG and Dortmund are above the level of these two clubs, so it is not surprising if Dortmund and PSG advance to the next round because they are considered strong clubs and it is very difficult to get rid of them because their game is really strong in any case.

Of course PSG will win the match because Dortmund is certain to progress to the next round, but if PSG loses it is likely that AC Milan and Newcastle will accompany Dortmund to advance to the next round.

Currently, we have few hours left in these matches with any prediction is not easy even most of the members are favouring their sides and creating hype as well but most chances we will have tough matches in grounds with any team can win and go through for the next round PSG is clearly looking in driving seat but still anything can happen just in case of PSG win both Newcastle United and AC Milan will be out of the event but in case of any other result we have to check result of this match which will decide who is going to quality.

Even I am also excited about these match, but I have feeling most chances PSG will be in next round and then Newcastle United will be in Europa Cup and AC Milan is going to have exit, but it can take changes as well which will create more suspense and excitement.

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Quote from: Sim_card on December 13, 2023, 11:47:22 AM

I am not surprised on the disappointment that Man United gave their fans this season in the champions league that they managed to qualify for last season due to their good performance. This season is the opposite of last season as the team performance dropped drastically since the beginning of the season and they have not yet be able to recover from their poor performance. United is out and I don't know if this will motivate them to take their EPL matches serious since the they not in any Europa league anymore. ETH needs to be replaced because he lacks how to understand an ongoing game and the right players to replace, which has brought the downfall of the club in UCL.

There is no need to be disappointed because their opponents are tough, so they deserve to lose because Bayern Munich have more ability than Man United right now.
Maybe disappointment will not escape a fan especially this playing at home they must be disappointed to see their team have to lose and fail to step in other Europa League competitions.
The current season has indeed made many mistakes from Erik Ten Hag's strategy, maybe because there are other factors where the players are not happy to be watched by him so that his performance decreases, so that's what I see but with results like this it would be very reasonable if the club fired Erik Ten Hag.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on December 13, 2023, 10:19:34 AM

I think what we see yesterday was one of the most shamefull performance made by a English team in Champions League, Manchester united can not made this poor performance.

How you can go out of whole europe in an easy group like that? I cant believe ten hag still in charge after this.

You just need to wait till a few hours later then we will have another EPL club will be following the fate of manchester united. Newcastle has not become the favorite club to pass the group stage. This means that if it will have same fate as manchester united.
Two EPL clubs have been eliminated. i can count only toward manchester city to win the UCL. Arsenal? This club has no winning mentality. it will be also out from UCL soon.

The only best solution to replace ten hag with a new coach. This is it.

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Quote from: X-ray on December 13, 2023, 11:17:37 AM

Getting failed in the UCL is obviously a serious mistake. Manchester United invested heavily during the summer transfer season, however, their efforts did not yield any positive outcomes.

Erik ten Hag is responsible for Manchester United's failure in the UCL this season and he probably deserves to be fired if he fails also in the domestic league, especially considering the previous defeat by Bournemouth and being humiliated in front of all the Manchester United fans at Old Trafford, it definitely hurt the fans' feelings. Due to this failure, I believe that a new coach might be able to improve Manchester United to be able to perform even better because if they continue to rely on Erik ten Hag, it looks like Manchester United will never change for the better.

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Manchester City have updated starting eleven and Pep Guardiola make more than 80% rotation for last Champion League group stage round match against Crvena zvezda. There are not Erling Haaland on starting eleven or bench and Pep Guardiola used youth player for attacking line from Oscar Bobb and Rico Lewis. On defender have Pep Guardiola make rotation with Kyle Walker right defender position fill by Micah Hamilton
and seems become first debut for many youth Manchester City player. I have put Manchester City in the list team winning without looking before current line up, will youth players and first experience as starting eleven in Champion League make easy for winning?

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AC Milan should not be underestimated, they are a team that has a fairly strong mentality on the European stage and if we look at the quality of the teams, AC Milan and Newcastle do not have a significant difference so the final match between these two teams is difficult to predict.

And in the Dortmund VS PSG match, it will be very fierce, because PSG must get a win so they can qualify from the group, but because the match will be played at Dortmund's home ground, PSG will have a little difficulty even though I'm sure PSG's chances of winning the match are still wide open because Dortmund I don't have any motivation anymore in this match.

Group F is still as predicted, that is, it will be fierce until the last match.

I agree about this as in today matches we will have good entertainment as three teams are still fighting hard for the place into next round with AC Milan which is currently at the bottom but still have good chance but this all depends on Dortmund vs PSG as well in case of win for PSG both other opponents will be out of the competition and in case of lost or draw for the PSG things could be very interesting but for this match any prediction is not easy because both teams are having problems with suspensions and injuries which are hurting them in last few matches but still doing good job and wants to stay in for the next round.

After Real Madrid, AC Milan is one of the best team in this competition and Newcastle United is surely having first season after long period but still they give their best in last few matches which helps them for having good spot and now today we will have who could be in for the knock-out stage just few hours left.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on December 13, 2023, 10:19:34 AM

I think what we see yesterday was one of the most shamefull performance made by a English team in Champions League, Manchester united can not made this poor performance.

How you can go out of whole europe in an easy group like that? I cant believe ten hag still in charge after this.

You know Manchester United have not only been poor in the champions league in the Premier League they were hammered by Everton by 3 goals at Old Trafford so don't be surprised if they lost last night, I already think that Manchester United should go home and there is no more competition in Europe.

Now Erik Ten Hag is getting more and more urgent, some rumors say he will soon be replaced by another coach because he cannot take the club to a better place, and more embarrassing than the impression of victory on the field is not surprising if in the next few weeks he will be kicked out of the club manager's chair.

I am not surprised on the disappointment that Man United gave their fans this season in the champions league that they managed to qualify for last season due to their good performance. This season is the opposite of last season as the team performance dropped drastically since the beginning of the season and they have not yet be able to recover from their poor performance. United is out and I don't know if this will motivate them to take their EPL matches serious since the they not in any Europa league anymore. ETH needs to be replaced because he lacks how to understand an ongoing game and the right players to replace, which has brought the downfall of the club in UCL.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on December 13, 2023, 10:19:34 AM

I think what we see yesterday was one of the most shamefull performance made by a English team in Champions League, Manchester united can not made this poor performance.

How you can go out of whole europe in an easy group like that? I cant believe ten hag still in charge after this.

Again and again Manchester United failed to qualify for the knock out phase because previously in the last 3 season only Manchester United also didn't qualify and after 2 season all EPL club qualified for the next phase this season Manchester United had to be stranded at the bottom of the table and certainly did not qualify.
Even though EPL clubs are always favred to continue to qualify for the next phase but it doesnt seem to be for Manchester United, which is very unstable in every season they run.

Now we will see Newcastle who still have to fight and this is still very difficult for Newcastle to qualify.
If in the end Newcastle also fail in the group phase even though it is still understandable because the group of hell when the debutant after so long is not in the big competition but this can tarnish the big name of the EPL because after all in the last few season they hve contributed the most clubs to qualify for the next phase and this season is a setback for those who must fail to maintain that dominance.

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Quote from: rojan on December 13, 2023, 11:05:48 AM

UEFA Champions League After some time RB Leipzig vs Young Boys match will start. I am worried about which team will win if I bet on today's match. I don't know which team will win today's match. But if the players of Young Boys team can play well, I think they will win in this match. Will win. Fans of both teams are waiting to see which team will win this match. I don't know whether to place a bet today or not. I'm a little worried.

RB Leipzig will prove at home that they are capable of competing at the highest level. Meanwhile, BSC Young Boys will be looking to end their Champions League campaign on a high. Anyway, both teams have nothing to lose, we can expect an open and attacking game. RB Leipzig will likely dominate possession and create scoring opportunities with their high-pressing style. RB Leipzig will be favorites to win this match, but I don't think Young Boys will be able to do much. I think RB Leipzing can win 3-0.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on December 13, 2023, 10:19:34 AM

I think what we see yesterday was one of the most shamefull performance made by a English team in Champions League, Manchester united can not made this poor performance.

How you can go out of whole europe in an easy group like that? I cant believe ten hag still in charge after this.

This shouldn't be a surprise to you, you should be aware how much effort Manchester united have put in their performance in premier league. Winning is a problem from Manchester United for a longtime since the season started. The team have been struggling in scoring goals in premier league, with this performance I knew they are going nowhere in Champions league. Manchester United effort to qualify for champions league is just as if it was nothing because their performance is nothing to say good about. I still wonder why it is too difficult for Eric Ten Hag to improve the team of becoming better to an extent.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on December 13, 2023, 04:38:30 AM

I am really surprised from your this statement about the team which is currently at the second spot in La Liga and also ending their campaign in Champions League with 18 points mean without losing any match, and they score 16 goals which are currently highest in all group matches by all teams and this is really impressive for me because there were doubts about them before start of this season, but they achieve good results with available sources under Carlos Ancelotti, and they are currently one of the hot favourite teams which having good chance for ending this season with double.

Now Joselu and Bellingham duo is working impressive, and they are all young guns which are having bright future in soccer I feel good for them as they have done good job without their main striker which was not able to play due to injury, but things are really going good now in second half of the season we will have improved performance from them as well.

Some people see the players and look at their names and go "who is this" and do not understand that they think the team is bad. When you look at their performance and how they played so far you know that they are doing fine and they are a great team, it's obvious from the start that they would be good.

Obviously they are lacking a striker, nobody denies that they do need a proper striker for that team that can score a lot of goals and they are lacking that right now and that's an issue, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with anything that would be way too crazy, we are seeing a situation where they are doing fine and that means it's not going to be all that crazy. They will end the season with most likely the title winner for la liga, and even if they end up losing at UCL at some point that doesn't mean they were bad, they can't win every time, they won just a year prior so it's normal for them to have a situation where they could end up losing in the end.

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Lens managed to defeat Sevilla and finish 3rd in the group.I expected this win from Lens because we saw that they had more luck in general.Sevilla may have played better in the match but it was the hosts who played with the score in mind and managed to win. Sevilla finished the group without a win and Lens will continue their chances in the Europa League with this result.
The other match of the group ended in a draw.PSV drew with Arsenal at home.This was an expected result but I expected more goals in the match.

Lens has advanced to the Europa League playoffs by defeating Sevilla. It's a brutal ending for Sevilla, finishing at the bottom of their group. Lens, playing in Europe after a long time, they has achieved the unthinkable by securing a victory over Sevilla.

Despite a draw, Arsenal wins the group, and PSV qualifies for the Round of 16.

Dominating the attack did not allow Sevilla to win in this match, and they had to lose and at the same time ended the competition in the Champions League group stage without winning once. Lens managed to ensure themselves to be in the Europa League play offs, yes at least it's better than they have to go straight home as experienced by Sevilla.
PSV managed to secure 1 ticket and accompany Arsenal to the last 16 after they managed to draw in the last match against the top of the group. It was a tight match, but I didn't see Arsenal impressing, which is natural because they have already qualified and this match has no effect on their position in the Champoins League.

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Following last night's matches, there were no surprises in Group A. Despite securing the top spot and a ticket to the next round, Bayern fielded a strong lineup. Although Varane returned, Maguire's injury at the end of the first half led to Manchester United's defeat against Bayern at home, officially ending their Champions League journey. Copenhagen, along with Bayern, advanced to the next round in Group A after defeating Galatasaray.

Its not really surprised with Manchester United as first premier league teams failed reach knock out round, not only drop out from Champion League but also United will not play on Europe League due finished on bottom position standings in Group A. Finally Copenhagen qualify to next round as runner up standing behind Bayern Munich as the top standings.

United was just bottling it again after it was doing the same in europa league. I have no words to comment but this club looks so pathetic with ten hag as its coach. Manchester united losses its soul and ten hag was a flop since he was coming to the manchester united.
What trophy contributed by ten hag? As far as i remember that was only 1 trophy but that's a garbage trophy. This makes sense to sack him as soon as possible, caused by ten hag is the worst coach.

There's no need to blame the players. In fact, ten hag has bought some expensive players and they keep deliver nothing for the club. This is the main problem that will never be fixed by manchester united.
MU didn't have a good investment in its young talented players. The justification for management's immediate termination of his employment is primarily due to the fact that Ten Hag is no longer worthy of a place in Manchester United.

Getting failed in the UCL is obviously a serious mistake. Manchester United invested heavily during the summer transfer season, however, their efforts did not yield any positive outcomes.

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I never expect a defeat from Manchester United today. At worst, I'm expecting a draw. They have lose at both Champions league as well as Europa. Even to be at the top in the EPL this season isn't sure for them. I know they will still be beaten this weekend as well.

Because they have been playing so well all the time or what made you think that they will at worst end that game against Bayern Munich with a draw?

I admit that it was a small surprise that Bayern Munich played the game with all of their best players instead of going for heavy rotation, but still Manchester United was sleepy as hell and you could never see that there is something at risk for them. They still had the chance to qualify for the Europa League, but there was no fighting spirit and no pressure could be put on Bayern's defense. It was only one shot on target for the entire game for Manchester United. What a shame and I am awaiting some consequences for ten Hag.

The biggest problem for United today was Eintracht Frankfurt.
Bayern took a terrible beating last weekend so they had to prove something to themselves, the fans and Europe.
If they didn't get that beating by Frankfurt they might have taken the Man United game more easy and rest some players.

But after that you have to get back on track fast and what's better than building confidence by winning in the UCL.

Of course United also didn't perform at a level necessary to survive in a European competition, that's why they can only blame themselves for this.

This is what I thought when I saw that Bayern Munich is not going to Manchester United for a small holiday trip and yes, the reason was that they had this distressing defeat against Frankfurt. They considered this game the quickest path to recovery from the Frankfurt game and I think it was the right move by Bayern Munich. But it was still a home game for Manchester at Old Trafford and I am wondering why the fans are not protesting against the coach and the management yet. Who in his right mind would not want some big changes for the club?

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Quote from: doomloop on December 13, 2023, 10:41:50 AM

Now, we have less than 5 hours left in this match with Antwerp is already eliminated through no win in their last 5 games and the worst in this group all other three already qualify for their next rounds with Porto vs Shakhtar Donetsk will decide who will be in Champions League and who could be in Europa Cup for me in today match if we have second side of the Barcelona then still they will be able to win this match and stay at the top of the group in first leg match Barcelona beats them by 5–0, and now I am expecting we will have 3-0 or 2–0 because Antwerp is surely the weakest side.

As we have few other teams giving their best until last game so most chances we will have best from the Barcelona as well without any problem in this game and going into next round with high note.

The first match was difficult for Shakhtar, and in Portugal it will be even more difficult for them, a draw will be enough for Porto to remain in its position.

Barcelona will not miss their chance to beat Antwerp, who failed to get a single point in this group stage. I really want Shakhtar to continue playing in the Champions League, but Porto is a very strong team and in front of their fans they will not miss their chance to win, or at least not to lose.

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UEFA Champions League After some time RB Leipzig vs Young Boys match will start. I am worried about which team will win if I bet on today's match. I don't know which team will win today's match. But if the players of Young Boys team can play well, I think they will win in this match. Will win. Fans of both teams are waiting to see which team will win this match. I don't know whether to place a bet today or not. I'm a little worried.

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Quote from: bitLeap on December 13, 2023, 09:03:36 AM

This is no longer a serious problem, but rather an insurmountable crisis. Maybe Man United and the coach are currently confused between moving forward due to lack of confidence or having to ask the owner to become active again in the transfer market next season. The reason is that failure in the UCL will leave deep wounds because this is the first time in history that the Man United club has had to go home before anyone else.

Let's say that currently Erik Ten Hag can only focus on one competition namely the Domestic League and by focusing on one league he should have no reason to show poor performance but returning to the condition of the players after the match against Bayern Munich it was suspected that someone was injured. Meanwhile up front there is Liverpool who will definitely bring another nightmare for the Red Devils. Make no mistake for Liverpool, this is the right momentum to maximize points and make the Man United players mentality slump, Liverpool could have scored more than 3 goals.

United lost for the second time in a row at home to Munich. Odds weren't really in their favor regardless of the home advantage and at thesame time, Munich has always being a better side considering the type of football United plays now. The team generally are so lost and they seriously and quickly need to be found. Yes they did their best to stay in the UCL but their best wasn't just enough. Now they can focus more on finishing in the top 4 spot.

In past night's encounter, United sadly welcomed 2 new injury cases which has its own consequence on the team. A team that are striving to survive with an injury free squad now experiences two cases being defender injury cases, what else is left for the team to bask on. Ten Hag has his capacity put to test at this moment because, first, his team are not in good shape from the beginning till now and second, he's got a fierce game in the EPL against Liverpool this weekend. Liverpool will not relent in winning the game. They're at the top 3 spot of the table and United are definitely below them, now there's every tendency that the game could go in the better teams favour if and only if, United as a team put together their resources to hold back the threats from Liverpool.

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