Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 87. (Read 141700 times)

There should be no discussion going on about these two sides, but if you want to continue, when you look at Real Madrid for already printing that 15 behind, it tells a lot how much confidence they have ahead akre in the finals yet to be played. There's nobody capable of stopping them and if they had anyone it should have been Manchester City but they couldn't.

I can remember Borrussia Dortmund beating Real Madrid under Jurgen Klopp with Lewandoski scoring four goals in the Champions League Competition, Yes?
Glad to also see that most of these players are not Injured.
I'm already welcoming both Aston Villa, Girona and Bayern Leverkusen to the Champions League Competition, I want to see how they can withstand the competition.

In essence, Real Madrid can clearly be guaranteed to win, but even so, at least in football anything can still happen and the possibilities you mentioned can still happen. Because anyway, from the previous matches also that Dortmund only played defensively and thus, Dortmund managed to score goals on the counterattack. With a good and disciplined defense like this and also if Dortmund can still play like that in the final match later, it is still very possible that they will end the regular time with a draw. But still, whatever the result in 90 minutes, or through extra time or also through penalties, that Real Madrid will remain the favorite. But yes, let's just wait, whether Dortmund will still manage to make a surprise or not.

Betting on a straight win for Madrid against Dortmund will not have good odd simply because the bookmakers knows how good Madrid is when it comes to Champions League finals, and we have seen how poorly Dortmund keep playing in their domestic league Bundesliga, the bookmakers will actually give Dortmund a bigger odd because they know people will risk it.

 The pattern Dortmund used to qualify to this stage is a good pattern and it makes and put little fear to Madrid because they now know that they cannot underestimate Dortmund because they know that anything can happen.
I personally predicted PSG Vs Madrid as finalist, but Dortmund’s performance surprises me and I am now backing them to win the Champions League.

What you said about the Coach’s motivation for their players is right but saying that the match will end in a draw in the regular time is what I doubt. Real Madrid are the better team in this game but can Dortmund be able to hold them through 90minutes without conceding any goal? And also, can Dortmund be able to defend even one goal if they score against Real Madrid during the match? All this could happen but the possibility of Dortmund winning that match is still under probability. I will see the game like how others are predicting it to be a regular game and both teams having equal advantage and disadvantage of winning the game.

It was deemed that the final match did not bring together a team that was balanced in terms of squad depth and experience of the two coaches. Real Madrid were superior on paper, but a different reality was still possible during the 90 minutes. The winner will be determined within 90 minutes, even up to a penalty shootout, but I'm sure the final match this season will only last until 90 minutes.

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I know that, it's just a joke.
Both teams should be equally ready to face the final match. Dortmund, who don't have much experience in finals, is certainly not the favorite team to win it, while Real Madrid, with their experience of 18 finals, is certainly the favorite. There is clearly a chance for both teams to win, but the high or low of that chance may change during the match.


Of course, you are right about what you just said. We are talking about past history, especially about Real Madrid's winning record in the Champions League final. Dortmund is underdog in final, but they could be very dangerous and may can make their own history this season.

By the way, Real Madrid has three games before the final, especially La Liga matches against the following three teams:

• Alaves
• Villarreal
• Real Betis

Meanwhile, SV Darmstadt 98 is the only Bundesliga team remaining on Dortmund's fixture list ahead of the Champions League final. Dortmund have a long break before the final, while Real Madrid have three games.

Dortmund's victory over PSG in the semifinals meant that their strategy worked perfectly in both away and home matches. Dortmund tends to defend and take advantage of counter attacks, I think the same scenario will be played by Edin Terzić in the final match against Real Madrid. Edin Terzić cannot change his style of play and strategy in the final because so far this strategy has made Dortmund successful. He may need to increase the team's motivation and also maximize his players' finishing when there are opportunities to score goals.

I admit that Real Madrid is a team that can put pressure on you and your defense well from all angles, that is the skill of players who have individual skills like Vinicius and Rodrygo. Vini and Rodrygo are two very dangerous Brazilian strikers, while Real Madrid's attacking midfielders are just as dangerous as the center forward. Real Madrid can win the match easily if they score 2 goals in the first half, while if Dortmund scores first then Real Madrid will try to make a comeback like when they beat Bayern Munich.

Real Madrid have got the advantage of young q d talented players in their squad which could actually get to mean that they have the strength a d ofcourse the stamina to take in Dortmund without have to fear much except they happen to get injuries and other accident in the pitch besides which Madrid is by all standards in a competent state to deliver that which they aught to deliver in the game.

Borussia Dortmund aswell ha e got a fairly good quality players but they aren't such as to be compared to Real Madrid especially when it has to do with the fact that these guys are in their very young age which avails them the much needed flexibility and ancelotti has got a substitute team as good as his main team so they just seem to have advantage on every sides that keeps them ahead of Dortmund but nevertheless Dortmund will still have to try the much they can since they were able to come this far in the league even if they don't get to win the experience was worth every effort.

If Real Madrid gets to win this game I think they are going to set the pass again for another streak just like they did last time before Manchester city got to interrupt their streak and now they are going to start again, let's see this time if Just like last time they will be able to get three or more in a row and this has been common with them alone in recent times as against others who gets to participate in the champions league aswell.

In fact a lot of people will go for a straight win for real Madrid, but me personally I don bet on games like  this because to much risk. We know that Madrid has a good history when it comes to the Champions League but things change and don't be surprised to see Dortmund given Madrid a tough time. They will even given give them a tough time.

Exactly what am talking about Madrid can not even make that mistake of underestimating Dortmund or they will regret such action. Madrid will watch previous games of Dortmund and from there they can know were to penetrate from and its going to be good strategy looking for were to start from.

Many people do not doubt that Real Madrid is in the Champions League because it has been proven by the Champions League trophy that Real Madrid currently has. But it is very important not to underestimate anyone in the final match because Borussia Dortmund are also very aware of who they will face in this final match. Because the Real Madrid coach will definitely develop a strategy that is effective enough to win the final match and celebrate the victory by winning a prestigious trophy this season.

Before Neuer made those terrible mistakes, he made several good saves that kept Bayern in the game, but unfortunately only his mistakes will be remembered.
As for which club is more difficult for Real Madrid, this is a difficult question since Real dominates the Champions League and beats everyone  I said that the most difficult club is Atlético, even though Real beat them in the final both times.

Almost everyone will predict that REal Madrid will be champions this season, from any point of view they are better than Borussia Dortmund. Real Madrid is a club that has a very good mentality, their mentality is one of the factors they have achieved so much success as they have today, and they have done this for generations, and it has been proven now that their young players also have a very good mentality.

Real Madrid management succeeded in managing the club, that is one factor that we must not forget. The reason is that we can see several big clubs that end up having problems because their management cannot manage the club well. They are a unit that cannot function alone, and Real Madrid has succeeded in making all the elements sustainable with one another. This is something that a club must have, when the club can do that then I am sure they will be able to achieve great success and it will last not just for a season.

The main factor is about great effort, because luck factor is only a small percentage. If you only consider Dortmund qualifying for the final only a factor of luck, I think it is very inappropriate. Because after all,the fact is that Dortmund were able to beat PSG with a clean sheet in the two legs played. Obviously, it was a big effort by Dortmund and not just about luck. But indeed, if we compare Dortmund with Real Madrid then ofcourse anyteam playing in the Champions League will certainly not be easy to beat Real Madrid,because Real Madrid is the king ofEurope. So clearly, we cannot compare Dortmund with Real Madrid, because whoever theopponent Real Madrid faces in the Champions League final, then of course Real Madrid will remain the favorite team.

I saw a very interesting statistic in the newspaper today. They have played 51 official matches this season and have only suffered 2 defeats. Borussia Dortmund have achieved a very important success so far. But I don't think they will have a chance against Real Madrid in the final. I agree with you. Because Real Madrid have players who can change the score at any moment. On the other hand, Borussia Dortmund have looked like a team that tries to score from corners or free-kicks with set-pieces. I think Real Madrid are the clear favorites in this match.

I think if Dortmund can score first of course it will make their motivation even higher, but it looks like it will be difficult for Dortmund to do it because usually Madrid plays quite well at the start of the match, but I think maybe Dortmund will be able to do it even though it might be difficult, this season Dortmund is playing quite badly in the Bundesliga but it looks like they will continue to try to win the only trophy they can currently achieve in champions league, when Madrid conceded we could see how Madrid mentality rose to catch up with them, but in the semifinal match yesterday munich made a mistake, which survived after winning 1 goal and make was the beginning of Munich destruction at that time.

 I personally hope that if Dortmund in the final will be able to score first, it is very important for Dortmund not to make mistakes like Munich did by choosing to play defensively, because winning 1 goal against Madrid of course it will be very dangerous if they defend because as you said if Madrid If they concede, their anger will peak, so it is better for Dortmund to continue to attack and apply pressure which could disrupt Madrid concentration in the match, even though it is unlikely to happen, I personally hope that Dortmund will be able to win the Champions League this season.

I think the coach of Dortmund is smart enough to motivate their team through the technique well known in such events,he will tell his players that we are not the favorite to win this game and as such to play worry free football,simple football which in turn can be an effective way of preparing the team.The team of Dortmund does not rely on a specific player and they play collective football while Real Madrid relies on their attackers most of the time to score goals so it is surely going to be a different approach to the game by the teams.Ancelotti will tell Real Madrid that they are the stronger team but to not underestimate Dortmund as they are not there without reason or because of luck so most likely for me this game in regular time will end in a draw.

The work between players and coaches is of course the key to team success and Madrid needs all of them in order to achieve success in the UCL. Anceloti is an experienced coach and a coach who is clever in carrying out tactics and the decisions he makes always produce unexpected results. He once won the UCL title with Madrid so Currently, many people believe that Anceloti can get it back with Madrid. There is no doubt about Anceloti's coaching system when the trophy is right in front of him.

Borussia Dortmund coach Edin Terzic doesn't have as much experience as Anceloti against Madrid, of course he will have difficulty in providing tactics because Anceloti can always play smart strategies when on the field so Borussia Dortmund must be prepared to be completely slaughtered by Madrid. I see Madrid is very ready to face Dortmund in final, of course Madrid was lucky to get an opponent who wasn't that tough in the UCL final.

So far, Real Madrid's strongest opponents have been Manchester City and Chelsea because these clubs were always giving toughest game for real madrid. These clubs were always almost beating real madrid. I noticed that these clubs sometimes become the biggest obstacles. Bayern was losing due to Neuer's fault that helped madrid to scored the first goal. He was missing the ball, which gave Joselu an opportunity to score and it was not going so well for neuer even for the second half. It was a very bad result for bayern munich.
I never expected Jose to be going forward until he got in front of the goalkeeper. His instinct has compelled him to pursue the ball. I believe that an average striker would not do that, but it appears that Joselu's winning mentality compelled him to do so.
It also continued until he scored another goal for Real Madrid. It's an amazing match we have seen after city vs madrid.

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Aurélien Tchouaméni's injury against Bayern Munich might change the structure of Real Madrid's midfield a little bit, but I don't think there's any need to worry about that because Real Madrid still have good options to replace Aurélien Tchouaméni in the midfield position.

Still[i for the final step in my opinion there is still enough time for Aurélien Tchouaméni to recover from his illness, because the final is still quite long and most likely Aurélien Tchouaméni will recover from his injury, we may be a little worried if the injury will be long, but I for the next 2 weeks he can recover and return ready to fight and play in the final match against Dortmund.

If Dortmund can score first that is the only way they can win against Real Madrid. But sometimes we should be more realistic, we all saw what Real Madrid did at the semi final. Scoring 2 goals at the last minute, which is something that we need to look into before speculating that Dortmund could score and luck their defense and perhaps a chance will be there for them to win.

Real Madrid is a team that when you give them a scar they get angry and try to give you multiple injuries. You might be able to score them first but dont jubilate yet because they have the probability to score you more goals and win at the end. Dont fucking joke with a team that has dangerous strikers and  weaponized midfielders.

Champions League is not a child's play so making it one to the finals shows that you are good and you are experienced because the competitors are good so making it to the top is a lot of work.  Exactly you made a very good point for the fact that they made it to the finals will come out with a good result. Madrid should a strong play from Dortmund. 

I don't know what the result will be be but I have a strong belief that real Madrid will find a way of winning because first half its going to be a draw game. Am sure of that. Dortmund tried of not that psg lost to them it would have been psg against real Madrid ot will be an interesting game.