Bayern Munich and Galatasaray are gonna progress at the expense of Man United and Copenhagen.
Mere looking at group A UCL, it's simple to draw out the maps of teams that would make it out and the ones that will be pushed to Europa League, but the system doesn't work like that because we have alot to learn. Bayern Munich ranked first, followed by Galatasaray that are sitting second on the table, the other two teams would struggle in the second legs because they have priorities to reach this season. My major pressing concerns is on Manchester United because they're weigh below the standards of competitive matches, total reluctance and fatigue hits the players, perhaps there's still hope for the Red Devils. 
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Bayern Munich and Galatasaray are gonna progress at the expense of Man United and Copenhagen.
It could be wise to take Manchester United out of the picture, in terms of teams that won't qualify in that group, but in my opinion, I can't specifically say that Galatasaray and Bayern Munich will only scale through and take Copenhagen for granted. So for me, both Galatasaray and Copenhagen have an equal chance of qualifying in that group alongside Bayern, regardless of which team is ahead of the other in their group table. Munchen will visit Galatasaray headquarters, on paper Thomas Tuchel squad can get full points. Likewise Man United will host Copenhagen at Old Trafford, I would also say United can secure full points. I certainly haven't forgotten about the various surprises that could happen, but looking at the depth of the Munchen and United squads they should be able to do it.
Obviously Copenhagen has 1 point while Manchester United has 0 points and this means Copenhagen's position at the moment is better than that of Manchester United. But Manchester United still has both games to go against Copenhagen, which means with the next two games they can turn this around and at least secure the third rank in the table for the time being. But Copenhagen isn't Manchester United's biggest problem. The real problem is Galatasaray because they are stronger than Manchester United has anticipated. They clearly underestimated the Turkish team. Their defense is pure stability as can be seen in the Turkish league and their attack is good enough to overcome the defense of the Red Devils. Assuming that they win both of their games against Copenhagen, the problem with Galatasaray is still unsolved. The real showdown will take place in Turkey.
If Manchester United is able to overcome Copenhagen in two matches, it will not be enough to get them into the last 16 because they have only collected six points. United other two matches will still be against Galatasaray and Bayern Munchen, after seeing the previous failures that United received from these two clubs, it is difficult to say that Ten Hag squad can turn things around. Even though the opportunity to qualify from the group phase is still open for United, I think it is very small, because they have to depend on the defeat of the other three clubs.Perhaps the most realistic thing for United is to finish in third place and continue their journey in the Europa League, however, all possibilities can still happen in these four matches, who knows, United can go further by achieving positive results after many doubted them.
Yes but the next two games are both against Bayern Munich for Galatasaray and if Manchester United is able to win both games against Copenhagen while Galatasaray loses both games against Bayern Munich, the group would be extremely close. It is still not over yet although Galatasaray has it in their own hands. If they can tie one of those games against Bayern Munich, I think it's almost impossible for Manchester United to recover from their situation. I think in this group we will have a final showdown on the last game day for certain. A little bit of hope is still left because Galatasaray did not win their home game against Copenhagen. That could be a small detail that might be against Galatasaray eventually.
Bayern Munich and Galatasaray are gonna progress at the expense of Man United and Copenhagen.
It could be wise to take Manchester United out of the picture, in terms of teams that won't qualify in that group, but in my opinion, I can't specifically say that Galatasaray and Bayern Munich will only scale through and take Copenhagen for granted. So for me, both Galatasaray and Copenhagen have an equal chance of qualifying in that group alongside Bayern, regardless of which team is ahead of the other in their group table. MU must show the quality of their own game to the maximum. play well and get the win. No need to think too much about the results from Munich. the most important thing is that they have to win first, and hope that there is still a chance to qualify.
but I have a feeling that this will be quite difficult for MU, they may have to fight again for the Europa League if they are eliminated from the Champions League. currently the biggest possibility that Ten Hag and his team can have is that. It's not that there's no chance, but I think the best possibility for MU is the Europa League.
You seems to be really sure if Manchester United at least will be in the top 3, don't underestimate Copenhagen since they can still able to compete against Galatasaray while Manchester United can't. There's a possibility Manchester United would be in the bottom and not enter Europa league.but I have a feeling that this will be quite difficult for MU, they may have to fight again for the Europa League if they are eliminated from the Champions League. currently the biggest possibility that Ten Hag and his team can have is that. It's not that there's no chance, but I think the best possibility for MU is the Europa League.
Manchester United is really struggle due to lack of good player, so it's not something could be easily solved.
Manchester United remaining four points left from Galatasaray who settled on 2nd standings position, with four matches left still have opportunity for qualifying to 16 round, must winning all matches left actually next match against Copenhagen. Loss two matches in a row give difficult position for Manchester United and their opportunity lead to 16 round, but United need help from Bayern Munich take three points against Galatasaray and give Manchester United cut off difference points.
Erik ten Hag must motovate his team keep optimistic with three points achievement on next match, if loss three points or get one points against Copenhange seems difficult for managing to 16 round.
MU must show the quality of their own game to the maximum. play well and get the win. No need to think too much about the results from Munich. the most important thing is that they have to win first, and hope that there is still a chance to qualify.Erik ten Hag must motovate his team keep optimistic with three points achievement on next match, if loss three points or get one points against Copenhange seems difficult for managing to 16 round.
but I have a feeling that this will be quite difficult for MU, they may have to fight again for the Europa League if they are eliminated from the Champions League. currently the biggest possibility that Ten Hag and his team can have is that. It's not that there's no chance, but I think the best possibility for MU is the Europa League.
After the international break, they have a double header against Copenhagen which I think they're favourites to win the two matches but their next two games would be against Bayern Munich and an away game at Galatasaray. In my own observation, I think Bayern Munich and Galatasaray are gonna progress at the expense of Man United and Copenhagen.
Manchester united was underperform and it needs more than a miracle to make it happen. My prediction if manchester united will be finishing at the second or third place. I see the chance for MU to compete with bayern for the first spot is very small at this moment. Manchester united is still owning never ending problem that was also giving huge pressure to the ten hag at this moment. United's performance from the previous match made me feel so scary to pick it.
United was winning through tominay against brentford due to the miracle came to the tominay. Manchester united could not even able in scoring the goals through open play.
The game play of manchester united was not the same like previous season. It's declining so hard. Im not sure that if ten hag will able to solve it as soon as possible.
Ten hag shall have tried to do so many changes especially on its defenders. I remember that MU has recruited reguilon but this guy seems useless.
United was winning through tominay against brentford due to the miracle came to the tominay. Manchester united could not even able in scoring the goals through open play.
The game play of manchester united was not the same like previous season. It's declining so hard. Im not sure that if ten hag will able to solve it as soon as possible.
Ten hag shall have tried to do so many changes especially on its defenders. I remember that MU has recruited reguilon but this guy seems useless.
The struggles continued even before they left for the International duties. I'm still not sure they'll get it fixed. From goalkeeper, to defender's, midfielder's and attackers, Manchester United needs help and grace to win games of late.
Godspeed with them qualifications for the round of sixteen unsure.
Manchester United for the records are pretty good at comebacks during the good old days, but now is a wrong time to start wishing and reminiscing.
Scott MC Tominay saved them against Brentford. He does that again and he'll get his way stucked in the first team. He may likely be sold too from Manchester United during January Transfer Window.
Manchester United remaining four points left from Galatasaray who settled on 2nd standings position, with four matches left still have opportunity for qualifying to 16 round, must winning all matches left actually next match against Copenhagen. Loss two matches in a row give difficult position for Manchester United and their opportunity lead to 16 round, but United need help from Bayern Munich take three points against Galatasaray and give Manchester United cut off difference points.
Erik ten Hag must motovate his team keep optimistic with three points achievement on next match, if loss three points or get one points against Copenhange seems difficult for managing to 16 round.
MU must show the quality of their own game to the maximum. play well and get the win. No need to think too much about the results from Munich. the most important thing is that they have to win first, and hope that there is still a chance to qualify.Erik ten Hag must motovate his team keep optimistic with three points achievement on next match, if loss three points or get one points against Copenhange seems difficult for managing to 16 round.
but I have a feeling that this will be quite difficult for MU, they may have to fight again for the Europa League if they are eliminated from the Champions League. currently the biggest possibility that Ten Hag and his team can have is that. It's not that there's no chance, but I think the best possibility for MU is the Europa League.
I don't think there's anything strange about that, because scoring a goal or a lot of goals doesn't guarantee they can win the game, right? We can see from the results of their first match against Bayern Munich. They scored 3 goals, but Bayern Munich scored 4. Against Galatasay it was the same, they could create 2 goals but Galatasaray could create more than what they could create so that made Manchester United lose the match.
0 points from 2 matches, that's not a good result, and they are in danger of packing their bags and not making it to the knockout stages.
Manchester united happening to have the highest UCL goal scorers in no way make it a reason they should be topping the group, they have the highest goal scorers but they aren't the team with the most goal in UCL but then it's really not understandable why they would be loosing so bad with players who have the huge goals so far it sounds absurd.0 points from 2 matches, that's not a good result, and they are in danger of packing their bags and not making it to the knockout stages.
Group B is going on much more different than I expected. I would have never expected Arsenal to lose against Lens in the first place. They weren't like this against PSV actually. But Lens somehow found a way to counter them. However I'm still favouring Arsenal to finish this group as the leader.
When it comes to the team finishing right behind Arsenal it is difficult to predict for now. It is up to Lens' performance in a couple of more matches.
I didn't expect PSV to make a this bad start. They have 2 consecutive matches against Lens now. I think PSV will win home but I have big doubts for the away one after seeing Arsenal fail.
Lastly I think Sevilla will still finish this group as the 3rd team and move on to the Europa League where they have been very successful in the recent years.
When it comes to the team finishing right behind Arsenal it is difficult to predict for now. It is up to Lens' performance in a couple of more matches.
I didn't expect PSV to make a this bad start. They have 2 consecutive matches against Lens now. I think PSV will win home but I have big doubts for the away one after seeing Arsenal fail.
Lastly I think Sevilla will still finish this group as the 3rd team and move on to the Europa League where they have been very successful in the recent years.
Manchester United remaining four points left from Galatasaray who settled on 2nd standings position, with four matches left still have opportunity for qualifying to 16 round, must winning all matches left actually next match against Copenhagen. Loss two matches in a row give difficult position for Manchester United and their opportunity lead to 16 round, but United need help from Bayern Munich take three points against Galatasaray and give Manchester United cut off difference points.
Erik ten Hag must motovate his team keep optimistic with three points achievement on next match, if loss three points or get one points against Copenhange seems difficult for managing to 16 round.
Erik ten Hag must motovate his team keep optimistic with three points achievement on next match, if loss three points or get one points against Copenhange seems difficult for managing to 16 round.
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Man United still has a chance in the Champions League, especially if they can continue to win in their remaining matches. This is not an easy target considering that their performance has not looked consistent to date. As long as they can get the full 6 points against Copenhagen, then their opportunities are still quite open. But if they fail to get these 6 points, they will most likely be eliminated from the Champions League.Ten Hag must take advantage of the match against Copenhagen to get their first points. A victory over Copenhagen could increase the enthusiasm of Manchester United players to maintain their chances considering that they have lost their first two matches. The opportunity for Manchester United to overtake Galatasaray in second place, which has only collected 4 points, is very open if they can achieve two wins against Copenhagen. Moreover, at the same time Galatasaray has to play two matches against Bayern Munich, the potential for losing points could happen to Galatasaray.
Other team will have to probably get a poor performance enough to be with a low point to get Manchester united to the top to qualify, Manchester united if they win against Copenhagen will have just three points and Bayern will most likely win their own game giving them nine points to top the table so Manchester may struggle to be at the second spot to qualify for the next round.
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Man United still has a chance in the Champions League, especially if they can continue to win in their remaining matches. This is not an easy target considering that their performance has not looked consistent to date. As long as they can get the full 6 points against Copenhagen, then their opportunities are still quite open. But if they fail to get these 6 points, they will most likely be eliminated from the Champions League.Ten Hag must take advantage of the match against Copenhagen to get their first points. A victory over Copenhagen could increase the enthusiasm of Manchester United players to maintain their chances considering that they have lost their first two matches. The opportunity for Manchester United to overtake Galatasaray in second place, which has only collected 4 points, is very open if they can achieve two wins against Copenhagen. Moreover, at the same time Galatasaray has to play two matches against Bayern Munich, the potential for losing points could happen to Galatasaray.
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Man United still has a chance in the Champions League, especially if they can continue to win in their remaining matches. This is not an easy target considering that their performance has not looked consistent to date. As long as they can get the full 6 points against Copenhagen, then their opportunities are still quite open. But if they fail to get these 6 points, they will most likely be eliminated from the Champions League.Ten Hag must take advantage of the match against Copenhagen to get their first points. A victory over Copenhagen could increase the enthusiasm of Manchester United players to maintain their chances considering that they have lost their first two matches. The opportunity for Manchester United to overtake Galatasaray in second place, which has only collected 4 points, is very open if they can achieve two wins against Copenhagen. Moreover, at the same time Galatasaray has to play two matches against Bayern Munich, the potential for losing points could happen to Galatasaray.
Previously I thought Man United was one of the favorite clubs to advance to the round of 16 from Group A, of course along with Bayern Munchen. Now Ten Hag and his players have to try to get out of the pressure and take opportunities in the remaining four matches. He must have the courage to be firm with his players if they cannot work together as a team, like Rahsford and Bruno Fernandes. I think Ten Hag can be fired if he fails to get United through the group phase.
I'm even sure that United really won't make it to the round of 16 this time. They need a miracle to qualify from Group A. I think Munich and Galatasaray will qualify. I'm not saying it will be impossible but if you look at the current number of points then United should be able to win at least 3 of the remaining 4 matches. And that is also with the note that Galatasaray will lose the remaining matches. So this is a very difficult thing if you look at United's recent performance.
Manchester united was underperform and it needs more than a miracle to make it happen. My prediction if manchester united will be finishing at the second or third place. I see the chance for MU to compete with bayern for the first spot is very small at this moment. Manchester united is still owning never ending problem that was also giving huge pressure to the ten hag at this moment. United's performance from the previous match made me feel so scary to pick it.
United was winning through tominay against brentford due to the miracle came to the tominay. Manchester united could not even able in scoring the goals through open play.
The game play of manchester united was not the same like previous season. It's declining so hard. Im not sure that if ten hag will able to solve it as soon as possible.
Ten hag shall have tried to do so many changes especially on its defenders. I remember that MU has recruited reguilon but this guy seems useless.
Sevilla and Arsenal may look good but lets not forget about Lens, they managed to beat Arsenal, not that I am saying they will keep doing that, but they already got a decent chunk of points, and they may get some more, I am guessing that they will make it hard for other teams. In that case, Lens and Arsenal going up, and Sevilla going back to Europa would be so funny to see.
There is a reason why people call it "the sevilla cup" and that would be fun to see. They are much more comfortable there and they have won it so many times, most recently the last one, and they could keep doing fine there as well. If they keep going with UCL then I am sure that they will lose next stage right away, but if they go back down to europa cup then there is at least a chance that they may do well. This season I am sure even Europa cup will be a hard one since there are so many good teams, but not like Sevilla hasn't beaten any good teams there before, they may do it again.
I think it would be very interesting to see Sevilla return to the European League and win the title again in that competition. There is a reason why people call it "the sevilla cup" and that would be fun to see. They are much more comfortable there and they have won it so many times, most recently the last one, and they could keep doing fine there as well. If they keep going with UCL then I am sure that they will lose next stage right away, but if they go back down to europa cup then there is at least a chance that they may do well. This season I am sure even Europa cup will be a hard one since there are so many good teams, but not like Sevilla hasn't beaten any good teams there before, they may do it again.
And actually, in the match against Arsenal, Sevilla is expected to have difficulties and will ultimately lose. Sevilla will indeed play as hosts but this will not change the fact that Sevilla's performance this season is quite bad. Even in Laliga, it turns out that Sevilla is currently ranked 14th. This is different from Arsenal, which is currently ranked 2nd in the Premier League standings.
Arsenal have never even lost at this point in the Premier League. and in their latest match they also managed to beat last season's Champions League champions, namely Man City. But losing to Lens in the UCL really made everyone doubt Arsenal in the UCL. But Arsenal should still be the favorite when facing Sevilla.
you said very well, to try to get through the groups Manchester United must win again and they have a great chance they must win the two matches against Copenhagen to get the first 6 points in the standings and support Bayern Munich who will be busy against Galatasaray. this is the best scenario for Manchester United to hope to pass the group and then play on equal terms in the match against Galatasaray
Group A is not as easy as we have suggested it to be, alot of things blowing out of proportion this season, watching shocking results. Bayern Munich and Galatasaray are the opportune teams that would make it to the next round from UCL group A because the Red Devils are reluctant in performance, having zero contributions, currently without any points. Manchester United have hoped to qualify this season, all Erik Ten Hag need is for the Red Devils to thrashed Copenhagen in their next game, that's the solid points that would boost the performance of Manchester United. 
Group A is not as easy as we have suggested it to be, alot of things blowing out of proportion this season, watching shocking results. Bayern Munich and Galatasaray are the opportune teams that would make it to the next round from UCL group A because the Red Devils are reluctant in performance, having zero contributions, currently without any points. Manchester United have hoped to qualify this season, all Erik Ten Hag need is for the Red Devils to thrashed Copenhagen in their next game, that's the solid points that would boost the performance of Manchester United.
Nope, Group A is still easy, the reason why you think Group A isn't easy because you want Manchester United to qualify to the next round. Right now Manchester United's performance turn really bad, poorer than Galatasaray. If you want to see a tough group, it's Group F which consist of: Milan, PSG, Newcastle and Dortmund.
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I can say that Arsenal will win other matches, but in the case of Sevilla I am not sure, they are quite a strong opponent, despite the fact that they will play their last match before the Champions League against Real Madrid. I'm sure they will be able to give their best in both matches and do it successfully
Arsenal and Sevilla are competitive this season, they are favorites to qualify from the Champions league group B because they're fierce in performance and have the necessary qualities to explore in games. Perhaps Arsenal currently second with 3 points while Sevilla have 2 points, the team topping is Lens with 4 points rank, though the resulrs is shocking. This is UCL and there's alot of things that need to comprehended when it comes to UCL games, no room to underrated any team, results doesn't go according to plans, rather it moves to were it feels is suited. It's entirely possible that Lance won't make it out of the group, but it's likely to be either a fluke or a mistake by their opponents. I'm leaning towards the second option and believe that Sevilla and Arsenal will get out of the group 100%. Lance were clearly not favourites against Arsenal, they only had 33% possession of the ball and were inferior to Arsenal in all aspects of the game
Lens is the team with the highest point at the moment in their group and they at this point seem to possess the capacity to be able to beat their next opponent which happens to be PSV who has the least point in the group but then I don't think they probably will, PSV isn't a weak team in their local league but how they turn out poorly in the UCL is really disturbing and lens who were not rated much enough earlier is making waves in their group but then let see how this their next schedule will turn out if they will continually be able to maintain their spot.
Lens is slowly going back to the its best performance while arsenal is still truggling to take len's place. Arsenal will be playing away against sevilla which will become one of the impotant match to determine the leader of this club.
My feeling told me that if lens will stay at the first place caused by arsenal probably got draw against lens. Im feeling that if arsenal will be struggling against sevilla yet im concerning about sevilla's performance which is far below my expectations.
I hope diego will able to bring back sevilla to the top again. The club really needs him at this moment.
you said very well, to try to get through the groups Manchester United must win again and they have a great chance they must win the two matches against Copenhagen to get the first 6 points in the standings and support Bayern Munich who will be busy against Galatasaray. this is the best scenario for Manchester United to hope to pass the group and then play on equal terms in the match against Galatasaray
Group A is not as easy as we have suggested it to be, alot of things blowing out of proportion this season, watching shocking results. Bayern Munich and Galatasaray are the opportune teams that would make it to the next round from UCL group A because the Red Devils are reluctant in performance, having zero contributions, currently without any points. Manchester United have hoped to qualify this season, all Erik Ten Hag need is for the Red Devils to thrashed Copenhagen in their next game, that's the solid points that would boost the performance of Manchester United. Jump to: