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Quote from: marcous on October 08, 2023, 05:39:58 AM

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PSG are still in 2nd place in Group F right now. I wasn't expecting to see this much especially after seeing how they were destroyed by Newcastle. I thought that maybe Milan would manage to win against Dortmund on one hand. But that game was quite boring in terms of having no goal in it.

I really don't know how much longer PSG will go on like this. I expected them to struggle and maybe even lose the game honestly.

However that 4-1 score at the end was unbelievable. Sad

Mbappe looked really thoughtful. I think he would definitely leave the team at the end of the season if they go on like this.

Group F is indeed boring because it is filled with clubs that have almost equal strength, now all four clubs still have the same chance of qualifying for the round of 16. I think the third matchday will be very decisive, which will create a difference in points in the standings, hopefully Milan can score a goal in the match against PSG, and Dortmund can stop Newcastle progress so that Group F will be more competitive.

Before Mbappe leaves, Luis Enrique should maximize Mbappe potential in the remainder of his contract. I think it's natural that if Mbappe leaves and pursues his dream of winning the UCL with another club, it's impossible for PSG to do the same job to tempt Mbappe to stay at the club.

Newcastle I highly doubt that it will be stopped by any of these teams here,they made short work of PSG while PSG had beaten Dortmund which in turn draw the last game against Milan.The fact that Milan has not scored a single goal so far in this competition for me says a lot about them not being in the right form despite leading the Serie A in their local league.For me Newcastle will be the first of the group and most likely they will win against Dortmund while for Milan vs PSG game I don't have any idea of how the game will develop,most likely it will end in a draw.

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Quote from: fzkto on October 07, 2023, 02:05:23 PM

Bayern are having the best of times. They are playing very steadily and I even think they can reach the Champions League final. Although Galatasaray are also playing well both away and at home. But I think it will be an easy game for Bayern. Galatasaray are strong in the Turkish League, but Bayern are much stronger.

There are some clubs that no matter how good they perform in their respective matches in all competitions, when they meet some clubs, they don’t always have a chance to prevail against them. This is just an example of this match between Bayern Munich and Galatasaray. Galatasaray have dominated their league and have been playing exceptionally well in the Champions League too, but they can’t withstand Bayern’s pressure and this will be a win for Bayern Munich without any second thought of them losing.

Quote from: rby on October 07, 2023, 06:00:10 PM

I do not actually know what happened to Manchester United in this season champions League but I have realised that Manchester United is not qualifying from the group match. It is first obvious that Bayern Munich has never failed to qualify from the champions League group match. So the one slot was off and the remaining slot was what Manchester United was supposed to fight for but they rather gave it to Galatasary

After Manchester United lost their second match to Galatasaray, I still feel it isn’t to be concluded yet that Manchester United can’t make it out of the group stage. Manchester United have only played two games and they still have 4 more games to play in the group stage even when they haven’t won any yet. I still have hope in Manchester United that they can turn the game around and still find a qualification to the knockout stage of the competition. The first slot is for Bayern Munich but the second stage is still in contention between the remaining teams, most likely Manchester United and Galatasaray.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 08, 2023, 05:06:42 AM

PSG are still in 2nd place in Group F right now. I wasn't expecting to see this much especially after seeing how they were destroyed by Newcastle. I thought that maybe Milan would manage to win against Dortmund on one hand. But that game was quite boring in terms of having no goal in it.

I really don't know how much longer PSG will go on like this. I expected them to struggle and maybe even lose the game honestly.

However that 4-1 score at the end was unbelievable. Sad

Mbappe looked really thoughtful. I think he would definitely leave the team at the end of the season if they go on like this.

Group F is indeed boring because it is filled with clubs that have almost equal strength, now all four clubs still have the same chance of qualifying for the round of 16. I think the third matchday will be very decisive, which will create a difference in points in the standings, hopefully Milan can score a goal in the match against PSG, and Dortmund can stop Newcastle progress so that Group F will be more competitive.

Before Mbappe leaves, Luis Enrique should maximize Mbappe potential in the remainder of his contract. I think it's natural that if Mbappe leaves and pursues his dream of winning the UCL with another club, it's impossible for PSG to do the same job to tempt Mbappe to stay at the club.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 08, 2023, 05:06:42 AM

PSG are still in 2nd place in Group F right now. I wasn't expecting to see this much especially after seeing how they were destroyed by Newcastle. I thought that maybe Milan would manage to win against Dortmund on one hand. But that game was quite boring in terms of having no goal in it.

I really don't know how much longer PSG will go on like this. I expected them to struggle and maybe even lose the game honestly.

However that 4-1 score at the end was unbelievable. Sad

Mbappe looked really thoughtful. I think he would definitely leave the team at the end of the season if they go on like this.

In that match, Newcastle really showed us that controlling more balls does not mean a team can win the match. Newcastle has a very solid defense and their attack level of accuracy is also much better.
I think PSG is really getting worse at the moment. Messi and Neymar are now gone. And Mbappe also seems to be having difficulty showing his extraordinary skills.

In the next match, Milan will face PSG. I think AC Milan and Newcastle are almost equal. So PSG will definitely have a little difficulty when facing AC Milan. But because PSG will be the host, PSG will definitely be able to win the match. Because it will be difficult for us to believe if PSG loses twice in a row. But we also have to admit that Group F is the hell group this season.

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PSG are still in 2nd place in Group F right now. I wasn't expecting to see this much especially after seeing how they were destroyed by Newcastle. I thought that maybe Milan would manage to win against Dortmund on one hand. But that game was quite boring in terms of having no goal in it.

I really don't know how much longer PSG will go on like this. I expected them to struggle and maybe even lose the game honestly.

However that 4-1 score at the end was unbelievable. Sad

Mbappe looked really thoughtful. I think he would definitely leave the team at the end of the season if they go on like this.

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Bayern are having the best of times. They are playing very steadily and I even think they can reach the Champions League final. Although Galatasaray are also playing well both away and at home. But I think it will be an easy game for Bayern. Galatasaray are strong in the Turkish League, but Bayern are much stronger.

Considering that it's the group stage I don't think it's that important, because Bayern will get out of the group anyway and a win over Galatsaray has only a small impact. But I wouldn't make any predictions about the final so early, we don't know what kind of opponents they will have

Bayern's position is not completely safe at this moment. The club needs to win at least 4 matches to securei a spot to go to the play off stage. Galatasaray really need to win this game caused by it was competing with MU and copenhagen for the second position.
Manchester united can comeback anytime and that being said if galatasaray's position can also be taken by united once MU can win all of remaining games. Just let's talk about the group stage first.
People are always rushing in predicting the final while we have not even reached the match day 3 of UCL group stage.

It's too far to talk about the final of UCL. We have not even come to the play off stage.

Though Bayern Munich has won their first two UEFA Champions League matches of the season, it's not enough to determine if they'll be progressing to the next round of the competition and needs to win three out of their remaining four matches of the group stage to be sure of top spot in group A.
However, considering the performances of their opponents in the group, I don't think there's anything that's gonna stop Bayern Munich from winning the group. The German champions have been immense with their performances in the UCL and are better than the other three teams in their group.

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on October 08, 2023, 12:26:05 AM

However, If you look at this group, you will notice that there is no team that is playing and stronger, like Bayern Munich. They are in the top spot now with 6 points. If Bayern Munich is able to secure another upcoming match and get 3 points, I believe they will go to the next stage without any problem, and they will be the top club in the UCL.

Playing as a guest of course there will be difficulties for Munich to get the full three points, but if you look at how they beat the other clubs in this group of course Munich wants to complete their victory and be at the top of this group standings, Kane always plays well for Munich so he won't maybe he wasted the opportunity to perform better in the UCL with Munich.

I'm sure Munich will get three points in the next match because they seem very enthusiastic in chasing the UCL trophy this season and there are no obstacles that make it difficult for them to pass this group to enter the next round, at least three consecutive wins will be obtained by Munich, on the other hand Apart from playing as hosts, of course Galatasaray always surprises their opponents so they might be able to make things difficult for Munich or be able to hold on to a draw in the match because it seems difficult for Galatasaray to win against Munich.

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Quote from: baeva on October 07, 2023, 02:40:15 PM

Quote from: fzkto on October 07, 2023, 02:05:23 PM

Bayern are having the best of times. They are playing very steadily and I even think they can reach the Champions League final. Although Galatasaray are also playing well both away and at home. But I think it will be an easy game for Bayern. Galatasaray are strong in the Turkish League, but Bayern are much stronger.

Considering that it's the group stage I don't think it's that important, because Bayern will get out of the group anyway and a win over Galatsaray has only a small impact. But I wouldn't make any predictions about the final so early, we don't know what kind of opponents they will have

Bayern's position is not completely safe at this moment. The club needs to win at least 4 matches to securei a spot to go to the play off stage. Galatasaray really need to win this game caused by it was competing with MU and copenhagen for the second position.
Manchester united can comeback anytime and that being said if galatasaray's position can also be taken by united once MU can win all of remaining games. Just let's talk about the group stage first.
People are always rushing in predicting the final while we have not even reached the match day 3 of UCL group stage.

It's too far to talk about the final of UCL. We have not even come to the play off stage.

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Quote from: len01 on October 07, 2023, 11:28:55 PM

Quote from: fzkto on October 07, 2023, 02:05:23 PM

Bayern are having the best of times. They are playing very steadily and I even think they can reach the Champions League final. Although Galatasaray are also playing well both away and at home. But I think it will be an easy game for Bayern. Galatasaray are strong in the Turkish League, but Bayern are much stronger.

even if Galatasaray is competing at home, the bookies still favor Bayern Munich, which can be acknowledged that this team is very strong after Kane arrival and on the one hand, Tuchel is currently very ambitious about chasing the UCL title and also always has new strategies that are always right used in every UCL match and it is all proven that Bayern Munich is able to become the leader in group A with 2 wins after beating Man United and Copenhagen.

Bayern Munich is still in the clouds for now, even with Galatasaray odds above 5+ it shouldn't be a temptation. The difference in strength between Bayern Munich and Galatasaray is quite large. Now we just have to see how Tuchel makes good use of this match and continues to maintain his winning streak in the UCL.
Tuchel and the Bayern Munich club clearly benefit because by having players at Bayern's level, I think it will be easier for Tuchel to achieve every victory. In the UCL he has quite good experience and I am even quite curious if Bayern, who are now facing Manchester City, considering Tuchel strategy in the past, will be able to intercept Pep Guardiola's dominance.

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Onana was not in his day today. Of course, we can say the same for the defensive zone, as it was not on Onana day. For example, in Icardi's goal, the defensive zone was completely asleep. Onana could not do anything in that region. A professional striker like Icardi would not miss this position. He was upset about missing the penalty, but scoring the goal after coming to the defense and creating a position raised his morale to the highest level. It was a good day for Galatasaray.

Not today only but the season so far is not his season.

Manchester United bought him to replace De Gea because they saw Onana can help them with his passing skills but in today match, he made a bad passing that caused a penalty. Luckily for him and Manchester United, Icardi missed that penalty. However, with that bad pass, Onana is not better than De Gea in this skill and he even made a worse pass than what De Gea did to Maguire in Europa League last season.

A third goal from Galatasary shows that Onana does not have too excellent saving skills.

I think you're being a little hasty. Onana is a goalkeeper who played in the final last year and has reflexes that can turn the match around when he is not on a really bad day. Maybe we shouldn't be in a hurry. It might be nice to keep him on reserve for a while and wait for him to recover, so we can see how Altay will perform. He was really bad in the Galatasaray match. I hope he recovers soon.

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Quote from: klidex on October 08, 2023, 12:26:25 AM

Quote from: fzkto on October 07, 2023, 02:05:23 PM

Bayern are having the best of times. They are playing very steadily and I even think they can reach the Champions League final. Although Galatasaray are also playing well both away and at home. But I think it will be an easy game for Bayern. Galatasaray are strong in the Turkish League, but Bayern are much stronger.

Bayern Munich will playing an away match against Galatasaray. Bayern Munich must perform amazingly in this matchs to be able to get full point so far. Bayern Munich is really a strong rival in group A and has won 2 matches since playing in the UCL and now Bayern Munich will face the match the third in the UCL if Bayern Munich is able to win this match of course Bayern Munich will have a winning streak and continue to be at the top of the group A points table. Bayern Munich has a higher chance of winning than Galatasaray of course Bayern Munich must use that opportunity well in this matches.

It must be an easy match for bayern even though the club shall have played the game away. Bayern just need to perform consistently. Getting draw is not that but as a bettor and i would prefer to see bayern to win the game against galatasaray.
Acquiring another three points will be helping bayern so much in securing the safe position in the group stage. Bayern can also easily get perfect result during the group stage as well.

In my belief if bayern will able to repeat the same story as last season. Bayern is one step ahead compared with another club in the group to go to the play off. It's really unacceptable result for bayern to get draw against galatasaray.
Many people are expecting galatasaray to lose against bayern caused by it's probably safe chocie but btts may also work as well.
The way for bayern to pass the group stage looked like much more easier since bayern was always winning the games.

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While everyone is too busy criticizing Manchester United, I prefer to open a discussion about the upcoming match Galatasaray will welcome Bayern Munich and from this match it will be a little difficult to predict, however, Galatasaray cannot be underestimated. After beating Manchester United, the enthusiasm of the Galatasaray players has become higher and it seems will have the ambition to beat Bayern Munich and while Munich is currently in a very strong position leading group A and I am quite sure that even though Galatasaray looks strong it is unlikely they will be able to beat Bayern Munich or at least end in a draw.

Currently, even though Bayern Munich will appear away, the bookies still favor Bayern Munich with odds @1.48

Galatasaray beat United, but this is hardly a great achievement as United lose to anyone from time to time. At the same time, Copenhagen took away a draw from Istanbul. It seems to me that if you look at these results comprehensively, you can conclude that Galatasaray is definitely not a match for Bayern. But I won’t bet on Bayern. 1.48 is too low, Bayern are already comfortably in the lead in the group and they don’t need to strain themselves in every game.

Even though Bayern Munich have got a comfortable place at the top of group A standings but of course, this position will not make Bayern Munich will give a winning result to Galatasaray. Because after all, competition in the group phase is also still in the first leg and of course, there will still be a second leg later and that way, then of course the winning result will still be the main target for Bayern Munich when playing against Galatasaray later . But yes, at least it is true, that Galatasaray victory over Manchester United cannot be used as a reference for Galatasaray to beat Bayern Munich too. Because after all, the quality of Bayern Munich and Manchester United is also certainly different, so we cannot assume Galatasaray has a chance to beat Bayern Munich.

I refuse to believe that Bayern Munich, even though they are currently in first place, will take the game against Galatasaray easily. Let's break down the situation: Even though both Bayern Munich and Galatasaray beat Manchester United, we need to remember that every game is a new chance to win! Will Bayern's better qualities pretty much guarantee them a win against Galatasaray? I don't think so! Football is a very unpredictable sport. Bayern Munich has played very well in the Bundesliga and the Champions League so far, but I think that their mindset of always wanting to win, even in games that seem easy, will be put to the test against a motivated Galatasaray, especially since they'll be playing at home

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Quote from: fzkto on October 07, 2023, 02:05:23 PM

Bayern are having the best of times. They are playing very steadily and I even think they can reach the Champions League final. Although Galatasaray are also playing well both away and at home. But I think it will be an easy game for Bayern. Galatasaray are strong in the Turkish League, but Bayern are much stronger.

Bayern Munich will playing an away match against Galatasaray. Bayern Munich must perform amazingly in this matchs to be able to get full point so far. Bayern Munich is really a strong rival in group A and has won 2 matches since playing in the UCL and now Bayern Munich will face the match the third in the UCL if Bayern Munich is able to win this match of course Bayern Munich will have a winning streak and continue to be at the top of the group A points table. Bayern Munich has a higher chance of winning than Galatasaray of course Bayern Munich must use that opportunity well in this matches.

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Quote from: fzkto on October 07, 2023, 02:05:23 PM

Bayern are having the best of times. They are playing very steadily and I even think they can reach the Champions League final. Although Galatasaray are also playing well both away and at home. But I think it will be an easy game for Bayern. Galatasaray are strong in the Turkish League, but Bayern are much stronger.

The Bayern Munich squad is currently in a better position with the way their performance is moving. If they don’t later make a big mistake, I think they will move on to the final even though it’s too early to predict, but I made this because of how their performance is going. I think they will do it. So when we are talking about Galatasaray, I don’t think it’s difficult or is going to be difficult for Bayern Munich. Galatasaray scoring against Manchester United doesn’t mean they are also a strong team in the group.

However, If you look at this group, you will notice that there is no team that is playing and stronger, like Bayern Munich. They are in the top spot now with 6 points. If Bayern Munich is able to secure another upcoming match and get 3 points, I believe they will go to the next stage without any problem, and they will be the top club in the UCL.

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Quote from: len01 on October 07, 2023, 11:28:55 PM

Quote from: fzkto on October 07, 2023, 02:05:23 PM

Bayern are having the best of times. They are playing very steadily and I even think they can reach the Champions League final. Although Galatasaray are also playing well both away and at home. But I think it will be an easy game for Bayern. Galatasaray are strong in the Turkish League, but Bayern are much stronger.

even if Galatasaray is competing at home, the bookies still favor Bayern Munich, which can be acknowledged that this team is very strong after Kane arrival and on the one hand, Tuchel is currently very ambitious about chasing the UCL title and also always has new strategies that are always right used in every UCL match and it is all proven that Bayern Munich is able to become the leader in group A with 2 wins after beating Man United and Copenhagen.

In the upcoming match it looks like Bayern Munich will at least score 3 points away from home and betting on Bayern Munich is slightly profitable.

Betting on Bayern Munich against Galatasaray is definitely safe. Bayern Munich have collected 6 points from two Champions League matches so far. Bayern Munich, the strongest team in this group and their next strongest team, Manchester United, have already beaten Manchester United in the first match. Bayern Munich have only one match remaining in this group. The match against Galatasaray will be held on October 24. Bayern Munich will definitely play for full points in this match and I believe Bayan Munich will be able to get old points in this match.

Bayan Munich are currently at the top of the points table with 6 points after playing two matches. If they can get full points in the last match of the group stage, they will go to the next round as the top team without any obstacles.

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Quote from: fzkto on October 07, 2023, 02:05:23 PM

Bayern are having the best of times. They are playing very steadily and I even think they can reach the Champions League final. Although Galatasaray are also playing well both away and at home. But I think it will be an easy game for Bayern. Galatasaray are strong in the Turkish League, but Bayern are much stronger.

even if Galatasaray is competing at home, the bookies still favor Bayern Munich, which can be acknowledged that this team is very strong after Kane arrival and on the one hand, Tuchel is currently very ambitious about chasing the UCL title and also always has new strategies that are always right used in every UCL match and it is all proven that Bayern Munich is able to become the leader in group A with 2 wins after beating Man United and Copenhagen.

In the upcoming match it looks like Bayern Munich will at least score 3 points away from home and betting on Bayern Munich is slightly profitable.

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It was a amazing night for us but a nightmare for Manchester United fans. Football is such a game. Manchester United have loss 2 of 2 matches in Champion League. If they do not have a better performance in the Copenhagen matches, they may say goodbye to the European Champion League this season.

I think it was normal that they lost against Bayern Munich. It was a surprise that they lost against us. It happened once, so the surprise is also normal. But if we face another surprise result against Copenhagen, the danger bells will start ringing for Erik ten Hag. And in that case nobody can defend him. But I think they will beat Copenhagen because they have to beat Copenhagen. Sometimes there are technical and tactical problems, but games like this increase everyone's concentration. The game against Copenhagen is one of those games. I think Manchester United will win Copenhagen and focus on the rematch in Istanbul. They don't have many chances now. They have to be careful.

Manchester United didn't lose by a big margin against Bayan Munich, if I'm not mistaken Bayan Munich won that match 3-2 against Manchester United. The first match was well beaten against Bayan Munich but what did they do in the next match, they should have won the next match but in the next match they also lost 3-2 against Galatasaray. If it was such a tough tie for them to win against Galatasaray then at least they needed to pick up a point in this match so that they can win the next match and go to the next round for sure.

Even if Manchester United wins the next match, they will have to look at the other team, because the win, loss or draw of the other team depends on their progress to the next round, but before that, they must first win the next match.

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Quote from: fzkto on October 07, 2023, 02:05:23 PM

Bayern are having the best of times. They are playing very steadily and I even think they can reach the Champions League final. Although Galatasaray are also playing well both away and at home. But I think it will be an easy game for Bayern. Galatasaray are strong in the Turkish League, but Bayern are much stronger.

Bayenr will be winning the group stage but it's not yet clear which club that will become runner up. I will prefer galatasaray to go to the play off instead of manchester united. I hope manchester united will be losing and this club will not able to go to the playoff.
Galatasaray deserves a better spot for the club.

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Quote from: fzkto on October 07, 2023, 02:05:23 PM

Bayern are having the best of times. They are playing very steadily and I even think they can reach the Champions League final. Although Galatasaray are also playing well both away and at home. But I think it will be an easy game for Bayern. Galatasaray are strong in the Turkish League, but Bayern are much stronger.

Reaching the championship finals is one level that any club that can make it to that stage have indeed played well all through the Champions leagues legs and has indeed had a lot of winnings along the line, this is very important in the sense that, that it those previous performance that could be a pointer and motivation for the club to reach the championships finals.

Although the chances for Bayern Munich to reach the finals look slim, but even with the slim chances, we can not still undermine the possibility for the club to reach that stage of the tournaments.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 07, 2023, 05:48:41 PM

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Quote from: fzkto on October 07, 2023, 02:05:23 PM

Bayern are having the best of times. They are playing very steadily and I even think they can reach the Champions League final. Although Galatasaray are also playing well both away and at home. But I think it will be an easy game for Bayern. Galatasaray are strong in the Turkish League, but Bayern are much stronger.

Considering that it's the group stage I don't think it's that important, because Bayern will get out of the group anyway and a win over Galatsaray has only a small impact. But I wouldn't make any predictions about the final so early, we don't know what kind of opponents they will have

That's not hard to predict Bayer Munich in this group with the current performance we see from other teams in the group. So far Galatasaray is the only team that performed a little bit better than other teams and they won four points in this game while Manchester United lost both games they had and so far Bayern Munic is far from the there other teams in this group.

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Bayern are having the best of times. They are playing very steadily and I even think they can reach the Champions League final. Although Galatasaray are also playing well both away and at home. But I think it will be an easy game for Bayern. Galatasaray are strong in the Turkish League, but Bayern are much stronger.

Considering that it's the group stage I don't think it's that important, because Bayern will get out of the group anyway and a win over Galatsaray has only a small impact. But I wouldn't make any predictions about the final so early, we don't know what kind of opponents they will have

That's not hard to predict Bayer Munich in this group with the current performance we see from other teams in the group. So far Galatasaray is the only team that performed a little bit better than other teams and they won four points in this game while Manchester United lost both games they had and so far Bayern Munic is far from the there other teams in this group.

That team that is still being questioning by many people was manchester united. United was only earning zero points from two matches which was very bad. Copenhagen will not be an easy opponent for manchester united caused by bayern and galatasaray were struggling ni beating it. MU needs to be more careful caused by copenhagen can destroy manchester united. The chance for manchester united to pass the group stage will be even smaller with the current performance.
I was seeing how it performs against brentford in EPL and manchester united was showing bad performance overall during the game. I meant with that kind of performance and it's quite impossible for manchester united to win the game against copenhagen even though hagen was also weakest team in the group. My prediction if manchester united will be finish at the third or fourth place.

I don't underestimate MU but i just trying to read what things is gonna happen in the future.Im very skeptical caused by mu was only beating brentford by luck through mctominay.
The overall performance was so bad. MU was being far from what it used to be.

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