Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 965. (Read 141760 times)

I think it was normal that they lost against Bayern Munich. It was a surprise that they lost against us. It happened once, so the surprise is also normal. But if we face another surprise result against Copenhagen, the danger bells will start ringing for Erik ten Hag. And in that case nobody can defend him. But I think they will beat Copenhagen because they have to beat Copenhagen. Sometimes there are technical and tactical problems, but games like this increase everyone's concentration. The game against Copenhagen is one of those games. I think Manchester United will win Copenhagen and focus on the rematch in Istanbul. They don't have many chances now. They have to be careful.

With this kind of poor performance it will be difficult for them to survive the group stage, they have been so poor both in the premier league and champions league and i am even more surprised that they lose matches at Old Trafford. Losing at home means they have no regards for their fans and will make the fans lose confidence in them and have no belive for them anymore.

The group is a group that they could survive from if they actually buckle up and improve their performance because Bayern is the only team that is better than them when going head to head and they played well against them even though they lost 4-3 they gave their best.

If they don’t win Copenhagen I don’t think there is any more hope for them to survive the group stage, maybe they should just prepare ahead for the Europa League instead maybe they can do better there.

Regarding Manchester United's performance this season, I completely agree that we will focus on Erik Ten Hag's mistakes in managing the team. If I'm not mistaken, Erik Ten Hag said at a press conference that being able to surpass Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp is actually still very far away. Even Erik Ten Hag cannot compare to these two great coaches. Then the strategy he implemented was actually quite good, but this was Manchester United, not a club like Ajax which started from a seed of young players. Manchester United is a big club in England with a lot of reputation and the most fans in the world. When Erik Ten Hag holds such a big club, his level of play must also be able to adjust.

It would be very strange if he was retained by the club, because in my opinion the defeats experienced this season were strong enough to warrant being fired.

I were aware of many difficulties faced by ten hag once he was coming to the manchester united but this is his choice. We can't dictate him and manchester united management has been also agreed to sign him as a new coach.
Ten hag never had great achievements in his career as a manager but he can still have sometimes till the end of season. There's no need to say ten hag out. The management will be kicking him if he will not able to bring back united at the top 10 again this season.
United was able finishing at top place to get UCL spot but it seemed to me manchester united will be missing it upcoming season. Hopefully, ten hag can continue to build the club with the available players.

It's very hard to believe but ten hag had only this choice. It's not even possible anymore to make another excuse for the bad performance suffered by united. Im not yet seeing reguilon and where is he?
Buying some garbage players last season was a big mistake being made by ten hag. The club can spend smaller amounts of money to buy wordthy players.

Yes, I agree with what you said, Manchester United this season played less than optimal and even worse than in previous seasons, I don't know what made Manchester United like this, but some players did play less than optimal, especially with the current goalkeeper, Onana, who played less than optimal and conceded a lot, with the presence of Andre Onana guarding the Manchester United goal, a total of 18 goals have been conceded, with 11 of them created in the Premier League, even the Red Devils have also recorded four defeats, namely from Tottenham Hotspur, Arsenal, Brighton and Hove Albion, and Crystal Palace. The results made them stranded to 10th place in the English league, of course this is not a good order.
 
Of course, the red devils have spent a lot of funds to recruit onana instead of David De Gea, the red devils have lost one of their best goalkeepers who is able to keep Manchester United's goal well with the news that De Gea will return to guard the red devils' goal Even chealsea and aston villa players also commented on the onana's less than optimal game with his carelessness which always made blunders and harmed the red devils, many of whom thought and urged that as soon as possible the red devils had to find a replacement in the upcoming transfer market to return the red devils to the winning path.
and in the upcoming match against Brentford they should be able to win this match with the maximum they have to show their best game to be able to move up from their 10th place at this time the red devil fans certainly want to see their pride team win again not like now.

Every thing about Manchester united right now should be focused on Ten Hag, whether it's the defense that's porous, the goalkeeper that is weak or the midfielders not supplying and standardizing the ball or the strikers not being on their feets to score goals. Everything blames should be centered on Eric Ten Hag right now. I am unhappy about the way the club is being managed right now because the club can do better with the current first XI on the pitch. Players like Sancho also need to be back on the pitch and be ready to make goals. It's not s rocket science thing. It's a strategy. Goals are conceived through strategies and teamwork. Manchester united have not enjoyed that yet in this season. Reasons why I don't think they can make it up to the round of 16.

Everybody in manchester united are not doing their job excellently. From what i have seen before if defensively were not solid since the previous games. There must be a huge changes to be made in manchester united or this club will end at the bottom of the table.
The midfiel was not absolutely controlling the game and some players like rashford was always wasting the chance by failed to keep the ball when he was dribbling alone. Rashford is a disappointment for whole of united fans.
His selfishness brings new problem for manchester united. I don't even know what solution owned by ten hag for this. Benched him and put garnacho in looked like a very best option for rashford right now. Rashford's skill declind a lot.
Rashford was also so many times buried our chances in scoring against another team. Manchester united needs to take a wise decision for him. Ten hag needs to temporarily replace him with garnacho.
Nacho is quite better than rashfod.

Manchester United weak point this season lies in the back line and goalkeeper, their defenders often make blunders and Onana, who is entrusted with the main goalkeeper position, has not performed optimally. He was the actor in Manchester United's defeat to Galatasaray when he made a wrong ball pass which resulted in Galatasaray being awarded a penalty.
A good midfield and sharp front line will be in vain if it is not supported by a strong back line and the goalkeeper's impressive performance in repelling threats from the opponent. The mistakes that Manchester United players continue to make must be immediately evaluated by Ten Hag, he must immediately make several changes to get the first points in the UCL.

Manchester United have signed André Onana this season to solve their goalkeeper problem. André Onana is a good goalkeeper and will contribute well for Manchester United if given a quality defender. André Onana's performance was poor due to simple mistakes by the defenders.

There are times when Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo take some great free kicks that the goalkeeper has nothing to do but watch, do you blame the goalkeeper for that goal or praise Ronaldo or Lionel Messi's amazing free cricket. 
Same thing happened with André Onana. 
Manchester United defenders are making common mistakes that are entirely blamed on the goalkeeper.

Change the defense line-up and you will see that this goalkeeper has become Manchester United's best goalkeeper.

I guess Erik Ten Hag isn't really one of the top managers. He seems better suited to handle a team with young talents like Ajax. However, he has shown several weaknesses when dealing with star players.
I actually think opposite with you. I suppose that the issue with Manchester United lies more in the midfield. There have been too many poor passes, and the lack of midfield interception ability puts a lot of pressure on the defense.

Of course, the second defeat against Galasataray made Manchester United's condition look very bad, even though it was not completely like that, the situation on the field could be very different from the score shown. When they lost to Bayern Munich it was according to predictions but they didn't lose easily there was the resistance which made them score 3 goals, and when they lost to Galasataray they seemed unlucky, so firing Ten Hag will not solve the problems they are facing, in fact it could making their situation even more difficult, they have experienced consecutive defeats in the English Premier League and Champions League, but if we look at how Ten Hag has changed this team, there is still a chance for United to bounce back, including winning the match against Copenhagen in the third match, and I'm pretty sure they will be able to do it in this third match.

this bad situation experienced has often been discussed in several places and we should be able to see which parts have bad performance and for the midfield I think there is no problem or maybe there are just a few midfield players who are less than optimal but quite good and for the defense line which I think is still very bad (except goalkeeper) I say this because I always watch Man United matches so I can see the overall bad performance but indeed everyone has a different opinion.
we have to be more patient in waiting for good news from Man United to make transfers to get players who can strengthen several weak lines and lets see what will happen in 2024, Ten Hag will definitely do his best.

Manchester United tactician, Erik ten Hag have bad reputation with his player communication, when becoming Ajax Amsterdam head coach ever get problem with their player and  withdrew them from main squad. Right now happening with Manchester United, he faced problem with Jadon Sancho and he loss position in Manchester United main player for unpredictable time during not ask apology for Erik ten Hag.
I think become head coach or manager have good communicate with their player and make the roommate more friendly to make their player can show their top perform. For qualifying to the next round, Manchester United still have opportunity with for matches left and Erik ten Hag and lower his ego to accept Jadon Sancho in the main squad for helping United get three points in Champion League matches.

The problem was not in the mid but the defensive line has become the main problems that never be solved. MU does have good mid but it will be pretty much useless once mu will not able to have good defenders and goal keepers.
Ten hag is not having choice to use garbage defenders again.

Since they have Amrabat, he can fill up for Casemiro when they face Copenhagen, that's what players do, at times they take risky responsibility for the club.
Onana was responsible for that short pass, though I had a good look at the video clips and I noticed Casemiro was flat footed and he hesited a bit while the pass was approaching, in between,  Onana should be blamed for that.

Manchester United should do everything to get three points against Copenhagen else the dreams of qualification for another level will be fine forever. Erik Ten Hag also needs to check his tactics. He has to be one of the biggest managers making huge errors.

I hope ten hag will kick rasford from the starting line up. Having rashford was only destroy the game play of manchester united with his selfishness. MU was not really need someone who was playing alone without even caring with his team mate.
Rashford out!!!!!!!!! No more selfish player in mu.

If you were consistently watching manchester united's gameplay and you would be aware if manchester united has been playing so badly in the previous match. Many people were picking MU but i have picked btts caused by MU was performing too inconsistent this season.
It was winning the game against palace but it's losing the game once united was playing at home. The same thing is just happening with galatasaray caused by manchester united was missing opportunity to get full points from there.
It was making manchester being placed at the bottom place with no points collected by the club so far. MU played horrible game. It has also worst defenders in EPL in comparison with some strong clubs.

Yeah we can't see which team has the most potential because it's still in the group stage and at least we have to wait until the quarter-finals, we have some elite clubs there but sometimes surprises can happen like what happened to Newcastle vs PSG that is an example of how tough the competition is in the Champions League. What is clear is that we have favorite teams from several leagues Madrid  and Barcelona or Manchester City, Bayern Munchen or there is another team that will surprise us, who knows.

But how far has that sale gotten? Is there any information that has recently surfaced or is it mostly rumors and nobody knows when it's going to happen? If that sale is still in discussions and will happen, it also kind of put more important decisions and actions on ice. The owners have no incentive to make important or necessary transfers and if they thought it would be right to fire ten Hag, they also have no reason to do that until the sale is done. These are not the best circumstances under which Manchester United is trying to regain momentum and establish the club at the top of European football. But it would still be in the owners' interest that Manchester United does not fail in the Champions League group stage. I am curious if something will be done in the next few weeks if ten Hag can't win the first points here.

Usually, the prediction will not happen completely and I can't predict to see any of these teams winning the title at the end of this Champions League because there are some teams like Real Madrid that were usually the first hope for winning the title, and this time we have some other teams like Barcelona back in good form and they can definitely achieve good results in the Champions League if they continue their good performance but still I think Real Madrid is the first priority.