UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 978.

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Quote from: Despairo on October 05, 2023, 12:50:54 AM

PSG is lack of good players, there are still many mediocre players in their club. Take a look with Newcastle where they don't have any super stars, but all their players are in good quality.

I disagree for Mbappe can't wait to leave PSG, if he want to leave PSG, he wouldn't renew his contract until 2026.

PSG will not able to win Champions League as long as they only focus to sign star players.

PSG does not lack players, some famous players are already in the squad so there is actually no need to doubt, it's just that sometimes their strategy is not so effective when competing in UCL, in contrast to Newcastle, this team was able to rise from adversity with makeshift players now Newcastle looks stronger and was even able to beat PSG last night.

Hearing the news about Mbappe will extend the contract, the chances of him moving clubs are getting smaller because the management continues to convince Mbappe.

The problem is in the UCL competition which PSG is still unable to pursue, when it comes to the domestic league I think it's different, but when in the UCL the players look difficult to win.

PSG is famous for signing star players, but sadly they have never been able to use this option for the better results many coaches around here for them but still mostly are unable to bring positive results which is surely miserable for them in this team we have few quality players, but sadly they have no strong mentality and soccer chemistry which helps them for having good results here now time for the management and coach to sit and talk about these issues because without solving them most chances they will be struggled and not able to have good results.

Mbappé saga will be on until he is here because it's the good masala for the many media houses which are creating feud and have every time different news about this even right now issue is PSG performance not his transfer as he is already announced he will stay here until his new extended contract ended.

In this season with this performance things are looking not easy for the PSG because they are fail to have good results in Ligue 1 and now this big defeat creates too many rumors how things will be settled nothing is clear.

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Quote from: Despairo on October 05, 2023, 12:50:54 AM

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Can't just explain what went wrong with Les Parisiens but it seems that the players are not fit or suffering from fatigue. They were relatively outsmarted and bulldozed by the Newcastle player. I know Mbappe can't wait to leave this club because he needs to chase his dreams somewhere else.

PSG is lack of good players, there are still many mediocre players in their club. Take a look with Newcastle where they don't have any super stars, but all their players are in good quality.

I disagree for Mbappe can't wait to leave PSG, if he want to leave PSG, he wouldn't renew his contract until 2026.

PSG will not able to win Champions League as long as they only focus to sign star players.

PSG fans shouldn't be dreaming of their club winning the Champions League trophy this season. There have been good quality players in other seasons and it's fine to dream about them but to dream of winning the Champions League trophy with the players we have this season is like dreaming.

PSG won the first match against Dortmund because Dortmund's performance has been very poor this season but we predicted before the match that PSG's match against a team like Newcastle will never be easy. At first I was a bit hesitant to bet for Newcastle but then I bet for Newcastle and I won that bet.
Not only did Newcastle get full points but they beat PSG by a huge margin.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on October 04, 2023, 07:57:17 PM

Atletico Madrid played really bad against Feyenoord today, i was expecting to see a easy win from them, but they have to defend until the last minute, and when i see the Feyenoord goalkeeper going to the Atletico goal in the last minute i think "it cant be twice".

About Newcastle game, what to say, its a non sense team, against Milan they play really bad, and against PSG they were really good.

I disagree because first game which Newcastle United played was their first under coach Eddie Howie, and they were under pressure but still they have done good job which helps them for having confident and now against PSG they were right on spot which helps them for having result like this mostly where feeling we will have 2 or 3 goals but at the end they were able to expose PSG defence and done impressive job with now leading the group as well.

Milan playing defensive games on road with in last night they still have a match which ends without any goal mean they are doing just OK job for having acceptable results because they can do much better at home against these teams for having better results which will help them for having good chance for the qualifying into next round.

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Quote from: Despairo on October 05, 2023, 12:50:54 AM

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Can't just explain what went wrong with Les Parisiens but it seems that the players are not fit or suffering from fatigue. They were relatively outsmarted and bulldozed by the Newcastle player. I know Mbappe can't wait to leave this club because he needs to chase his dreams somewhere else.

PSG is lack of good players, there are still many mediocre players in their club. Take a look with Newcastle where they don't have any super stars, but all their players are in good quality.

I disagree for Mbappe can't wait to leave PSG, if he want to leave PSG, he wouldn't renew his contract until 2026.

PSG will not able to win Champions League as long as they only focus to sign star players.

PSG do not lack good players, rather they most likely lack good tactics enough to have won that game,the problem with PSG is never good players as last summer window they did signed good players and it was more like every of they positions were in check, from the defence up to the forward/attacking line. It's most likely they needed a good tactics that will position the players rightly.

Nevertheless Newcastle isn't a small or weak team either, they have been really good and started the season on a very brilliant not in the EPL so they wouldn't be considered an easy one for PSG, Newcastle aswell had the home advantage over the visiting french side, most English teams except for Manchester united, have been performing really well in the UCL this week.

Definitely mbappe is not staying in PSG any season longer as they are no longer fit for his career, I think PSG is gradually becoming a mediocre team and it's no longer healthy for his talent, most likely by the end of this season he should be leaving although there are speculations his contract is till 2025 but I doubt how authentic that information is because there is yet an official Statement to confirm it.

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The game between Newcastle and PSG was the one I wanted to see the most as it was really unclear to me who would take control of the game. PSG has overwhelmingly more ball possession and Newcastle has all the chances. This is odd because PSG has one of the strongest offensive trio out there and despite almost 70% ball possession they are not able to create chances? I wonder how that is possible and that not even Mbappe was able to have a shot on target. It can only mean that Newcastle is defending extremely well here and that is usually a difficult job against so many high level offenders. But this is also a bummer for PSG I am sure. This was the game that they should have won and they would have earned some respect back.

PSG is not believing what they are seeing the this match, I don't know if they underestimated Newcastle or PSG is not fit to play Newcastle. Longstaf has scored an early goal in the first half with a wonderful strike which went straight inside the post.

There are still more goals in this second half, the only person that I feel for is Mbappe because PSG does not worth his quality because they are bringing down his potentials.

Hernandez has broken the deadlock lock for PSG with a header 5 minutes after Newcastle scored their third goal, which is on the 60th minutes. It is like PSG have woken up from their slumber after the goal because I see that they want to start pressuring Newcastle to score a second goal. Its 3-1 against the visitors

There is a mix of several things going on at once here. PSG's attackers are much less dangerous than I thought and than they themselves certainly were hoping for. Kolo Muani is nonexistent on the pitch, which came without warning as he is usually a player who is highly present. If not in a game in the Champions League against Newcastle, when else?

Mbappe was also lost and couldn't enfold any danger in the box of Newcastle or let alone go for a high pace dribbling.

Dembele had half a chance but missed it.

On the other side Newcastle really had a good day and I think the last goal nailed it Wink

Losing foothold, the Schar lasers that shot into the upper angle. I think they can be very content with their performance.

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Quote from: borovichok on October 05, 2023, 12:57:41 AM

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Can't just explain what went wrong with Les Parisiens but it seems that the players are not fit or suffering from fatigue. They were relatively outsmarted and bulldozed by the Newcastle player. I know Mbappe can't wait to leave this club because he needs to chase his dreams somewhere else.

Alot of surprised events do take place in UCL this season, we have witnessed tremendous actions last night. I'm not shocked by the incredible performance exhibited by Newcastle United at St James' Park stadium. EPL clubs are definitely not relenting when they face these elite teams, probably using energy-efficient strategy to hold down Les Rouge-et-Bleu in the game. Who do we blame for Paris Saint-Germain humiliating defeats? Ofcourse fingers pointing towards the direction of the coach and the players because they became too reluctant instead of making spectacular actions that would lead to goal.

In an unexpected massacre of Newcastle United, they embarrassed the rich French club with a score that is sure to be unforgettable. Instead of being favored, PSG couldn't prove anything. Dembele had many chances but he failed many times, while Mbappe found it difficult to get a single chance because his movements were closed. I was actually amazed by Newcastle today because their performance throughout the first half alone was 2 goals ahead. From any angle, Newcastle United players are very solid in maximizing quick counterattacks by pressing which is difficult for the opponent to overcome. Congratulations because with this win I'm sure Newcastle will be motivated in the next match.

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A very impressive victory for Newcastle United, they were the most doubtful team to qualify from this most difficult group but what they showed against PSG slowly changed their status into a team to be reckoned with and this big win proves that they can play in the Champions League this season is not only because the strong teams in the English Premier League performed poorly last season but because they have the ability to play in this prestigious competition.
However, the results of other matches in the same group put Dotmund and AC Milan below Newcastle and PSG. Dortmund not being able to get 3 points against AC Milan at their own home will put them in an even more difficult position compared to the other 3 teams in the group.

Its impressive for Newcastle to be able to beat PSG with a big score and I remember previously when in the 1st match Newcastle against Milan were only able to draw with a score of 0-0 and we all know how Milan performance in the UCL was very strong and from the previous match I felt there was something improving Newcastle was different so they were able to beat PSG with a score of 4-1. with this success, Newcastle has increased enthusiasm to continue to perform consistently in the next round and Eddie Howe will also feel very proud of his team who were able to perform with the right strategy and I believe that in the next match they will be against Dortmund and will be able to beat or at least draw because Dortmund also had the same performance as Milan with a final score of 0-0.

It was too bad for Milan that there was no win yet. They drew with Dortmund, they drew with Newcastle. These draws are bad because PSG have 3 points, Newcastle have 4 points and Milan only have 2 points. Their next match is against PSG. The two decisive matches for PSG will be against Milan. Newcastle instantly became the favorites of the group.

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Quote from: Despairo on October 05, 2023, 12:50:54 AM

PSG is lack of good players, there are still many mediocre players in their club. Take a look with Newcastle where they don't have any super stars, but all their players are in good quality.

I disagree for Mbappe can't wait to leave PSG, if he want to leave PSG, he wouldn't renew his contract until 2026.

PSG will not able to win Champions League as long as they only focus to sign star players.

PSG does not lack players, some famous players are already in the squad so there is actually no need to doubt, it's just that sometimes their strategy is not so effective when competing in UCL, in contrast to Newcastle, this team was able to rise from adversity with makeshift players now Newcastle looks stronger and was even able to beat PSG last night.

Hearing the news about Mbappe will extend the contract, the chances of him moving clubs are getting smaller because the management continues to convince Mbappe.

The problem is in the UCL competition which PSG is still unable to pursue, when it comes to the domestic league I think it's different, but when in the UCL the players look difficult to win.

Even this season PSG's performance is also very bad in its domestic league, indeed this season PSG is very bad and in my opinion Luis Enrique is the person most responsible for all of this, he seems to have failed to continue his previous coaching to handle PSG.
a big defeat against Newcastle will make them even worse in terms of team mentality and self-confidence and in terms of team performance, PSG has not been able to improve since the start of the season, of course this is different from the Newcastle team which has quite good chemistry between the players and the coach's tactics which goes according to plan. .
I'm not surprised by this result, PSG are really down right now and they deserved to lose.

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Quote from: borovichok on October 05, 2023, 12:57:41 AM

Quote from: Die_empty on October 05, 2023, 12:26:45 AM

Can't just explain what went wrong with Les Parisiens but it seems that the players are not fit or suffering from fatigue. They were relatively outsmarted and bulldozed by the Newcastle player. I know Mbappe can't wait to leave this club because he needs to chase his dreams somewhere else.

Alot of surprised events do take place in UCL this season, we have witnessed tremendous actions last night. I'm not shocked by the incredible performance exhibited by Newcastle United at St James' Park stadium. EPL clubs are definitely not relenting when they face these elite teams, probably using energy-efficient strategy to hold down Les Rouge-et-Bleu in the game. Who do we blame for Paris Saint-Germain humiliating defeats? Ofcourse fingers pointing towards the direction of the coach and the players because they became too reluctant instead of making spectacular actions that would lead to goal.

PSG like do nothing at st james park. I don't even know what strategy used by enrique but this looked like a garbage strategy. What's the point in having more than 70% ball possession while the club was only making even less than 4 goal attempts? The different result showed by newcastle. This club was only playing defensive conter attack strategy but it was able making whole of PSG players are feeling panicked once newcastle was doing counter attack. 4 goals was a very bad result for PSG.
I see no chance for PSG to win UCL with the current performance. It's too good to be true to see PSG gets UCL this season. It's may not also able to pass the group stage. PSG is far from another team like real madrid or even city.
The quality of PSG was still far and there must be some improvements. Enrique needs to adapt with the current strategy that mostly used by modern football club.
PSG's performance looking so pathethic.

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Quote from: Despairo on October 05, 2023, 12:50:54 AM

PSG is lack of good players, there are still many mediocre players in their club. Take a look with Newcastle where they don't have any super stars, but all their players are in good quality.

I disagree for Mbappe can't wait to leave PSG, if he want to leave PSG, he wouldn't renew his contract until 2026.

PSG will not able to win Champions League as long as they only focus to sign star players.

PSG does not lack players, some famous players are already in the squad so there is actually no need to doubt, it's just that sometimes their strategy is not so effective when competing in UCL, in contrast to Newcastle, this team was able to rise from adversity with makeshift players now Newcastle looks stronger and was even able to beat PSG last night.

Hearing the news about Mbappe will extend the contract, the chances of him moving clubs are getting smaller because the management continues to convince Mbappe.

The problem is in the UCL competition which PSG is still unable to pursue, when it comes to the domestic league I think it's different, but when in the UCL the players look difficult to win.

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Quote from: Despairo on October 05, 2023, 12:50:54 AM

PSG is lack of good players, there are still many mediocre players in their club. Take a look with Newcastle where they don't have any super stars, but all their players are in good quality.

I disagree for Mbappe can't wait to leave PSG, if he want to leave PSG, he wouldn't renew his contract until 2026.

PSG will not able to win Champions League as long as they only focus to sign star players.

Now he stuck at PSG and some matches in this season shows that he can not carry PSG on his shoulders to win matches. He needs team mates to win together with him and some defeats in this season will help him to realize that in soccer, a team is everything. A player must play in a team, work with team mates and win or lose together. Even he is one of brightest star players globally, he should not let his ego destroys his career.

Mbappe just wants many things, money from PSG from a term in his contract for loyalty fee, money from Real Madrid by moving to Bernabeu in a free transfer and receive better salary. He bets that both clubs will have to satisfy his demands but by this, he bet his career to get money. Career span of soccer players is so short and Mbappe just waste one, two, three seasons because of money.

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Quote from: Die_empty on October 05, 2023, 12:26:45 AM

Can't just explain what went wrong with Les Parisiens but it seems that the players are not fit or suffering from fatigue. They were relatively outsmarted and bulldozed by the Newcastle player. I know Mbappe can't wait to leave this club because he needs to chase his dreams somewhere else.

Alot of surprised events do take place in UCL this season, we have witnessed tremendous actions last night. I'm not shocked by the incredible performance exhibited by Newcastle United at St James' Park stadium. EPL clubs are definitely not relenting when they face these elite teams, probably using energy-efficient strategy to hold down Les Rouge-et-Bleu in the game. Who do we blame for Paris Saint-Germain humiliating defeats? Ofcourse fingers pointing towards the direction of the coach and the players because they became too reluctant instead of making spectacular actions that would lead to goal.

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Newcastle came to the champions league and surprised everybody especially in tonight's game against the French champions, I never expected this game to be so easy for Newcastle with the way they ran through the PSG defense was just too easy, and they had to silence Mbappe all through the game.

Newcastle have been surprising everyone this season. I wasn't expecting Newcastle to win the match, but they won the match comfortably. Newcastle won PSG 4-1. The goal difference is just too much. PSG conceded 4 goals, which was just a surprise to me. The PSG defense was just too easy for Newcastle to penetrate, and they utilized the opportunities that they had. Every club will now be scared of Newcastle because they are a dangerous and unpredictable club currently.

I can't place it at the moment, PSG should have given Newcastle a run for their money but to me it seems the French side underrated the English Premier League team which was too bad, because at some point PSG wasn't adding much power in the game but when they saw it has gotten out of hand that's when they started striking and making dangerous crosses and trying to get in the game but it was too late. Imagine at 20+ mins no shot on target for the visitors, how unusual. And I don't think other clubs would be scared of them but they have to be careful and take business serious whenever they want to play against Newcastle. I really give every credit to the Newcastle team

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Most people had similar thoughts, but as we can see, everything is just different. Newcastle comfortably won the match, and Newcastle is now topping the table with 4 points, which is really a nice one for them. Newcastle made most people proud of them today, they showed a brilliant performance.

They have to continue with this performance or even play more better than what we saw last night because we all know how the UCL is, a team can be at the top of a group with an astonishing performance in the second game but when it matter that team would finish 2nd or even 3rd, so I'd say they should still go back and work more on their defense and attack...also keeping that winning fire burning.

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Quote from: Die_empty on October 05, 2023, 12:26:45 AM

Can't just explain what went wrong with Les Parisiens but it seems that the players are not fit or suffering from fatigue. They were relatively outsmarted and bulldozed by the Newcastle player. I know Mbappe can't wait to leave this club because he needs to chase his dreams somewhere else.

PSG is lack of good players, there are still many mediocre players in their club. Take a look with Newcastle where they don't have any super stars, but all their players are in good quality.

I disagree for Mbappe can't wait to leave PSG, if he want to leave PSG, he wouldn't renew his contract until 2026.

PSG will not able to win Champions League as long as they only focus to sign star players.

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Quote from: Strongkored on October 04, 2023, 11:48:49 PM

A very impressive victory for Newcastle United, they were the most doubtful team to qualify from this most difficult group but what they showed against PSG slowly changed their status into a team to be reckoned with and this big win proves that they can play in the Champions League this season is not only because the strong teams in the English Premier League performed poorly last season but because they have the ability to play in this prestigious competition.
However, the results of other matches in the same group put Dotmund and AC Milan below Newcastle and PSG. Dortmund not being able to get 3 points against AC Milan at their own home will put them in an even more difficult position compared to the other 3 teams in the group.

Its impressive for Newcastle to be able to beat PSG with a big score and I remember previously when in the 1st match Newcastle against Milan were only able to draw with a score of 0-0 and we all know how Milan performance in the UCL was very strong and from the previous match I felt there was something improving Newcastle was different so they were able to beat PSG with a score of 4-1. with this success, Newcastle has increased enthusiasm to continue to perform consistently in the next round and Eddie Howe will also feel very proud of his team who were able to perform with the right strategy and I believe that in the next match they will be against Dortmund and will be able to beat or at least draw because Dortmund also had the same performance as Milan with a final score of 0-0.

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Quote from: Die_empty on October 05, 2023, 12:26:45 AM

Newcastle is gradually proving that it cannot be neglected. They were able to hold AC Mian in San Siro and they have just clinched their first win in the UCL.

The next set of repeat fixtures will be very important in determining which team qualifies from the group stage, which drops to the Europa league and which team crashes out entirely. Newcastle will play Dortmund twice and Paris Saint Germain will face A.C Millan, these are fixtures that can go either way for all four of the teams and they are sandwiched between tough league fixtures, meaning squad depth will be very important.

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Quote from: Strongkored on October 04, 2023, 11:48:49 PM

A very impressive victory for Newcastle United, they were the most doubtful team to qualify from this most difficult group but what they showed against PSG slowly changed their status into a team to be reckoned with and this big win proves that they can play in the Champions League this season is not only because the strong teams in the English Premier League performed poorly last season but because they have the ability to play in this prestigious competition.
However, the results of other matches in the same group put Dotmund and AC Milan below Newcastle and PSG. Dortmund not being able to get 3 points against AC Milan at their own home will put them in an even more difficult position compared to the other 3 teams in the group.

Congratulations to Newcastle United for such an exceptional performance against a team that has been tipped to comfortably qualify in the group. I saw a Newcastle team with so much vigor and strength. Newcastle coach Edward Howe perfectly analyzed the PSG team and came up with a good plan. The Magpies didn't give PSG players space, they were always marking the ball. And it proved effective because two goals came from wrong passes due to the pressure Newcastle players were mounting in the PSG half.

Can't just explain what went wrong with Les Parisiens but it seems that the players are not fit or suffering from fatigue. They were relatively outsmarted and bulldozed by the Newcastle player. I know Mbappe can't wait to leave this club because he needs to chase his dreams somewhere else.

The outcome of the game between Dortmund and AC Milan favored PSG. They are second in the group and still have unlimited chances of qualifying for the next round. Newcastle is gradually proving that it cannot be neglected. They were able to hold AC Mian in San Siro and they have just clinched their first win in the UCL.

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PSG did dominate the game but were quite unlucky as they couldn’t utilize the opportunities they had to score more goals. Newcastle on the other hand, despite having less of the ball in their possession, utilized their opportunities and scored 4 goals. They had some good attempts and were pretty much composed as they had quite a number of shots that was goal bound.

- Despite having only 23% ball possession, Newcastle was highly effective with their high pressing style of play, converting almost all of their opportunities into goals.
- It's worth mentioning that Marquinhos' weaknesses contributed to Newcastle's victory. I don't understand why PSG still keeps him as captain when he doesn't seem worthy of the armband.
- Additionally, Luis Enrique's decision to use Mbappe in dual roles, both assisting and scoring, appears overly ambitious or stuck. While Mbappe is excellent, it's a demanding task comparable to Messi's, and PSG's tactics seem unstable as a result, in my opinion.

It's a nightmare for PSG. Their defense and midfield lack experience, causing these issues. Sorry, but maybe mistakes are common when Marquinhos isn't in defense. In Ligue 1, PSG rarely faces tough competition. How can they concede from such a position? Winning the Champions League again seems unlikely for PSG. I feel for Mbappe; cause the hope of their win in any game lies solely on his shoulder. On the other hand, Newcastle played well! They might perform strongly in the group stage and have a shot at reaching the round of 8.

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Quote from: bering on October 04, 2023, 07:39:48 PM

Final scores 4-1 between the match Newcastle vs PSG is very unpredictable result even before that match begin most people predict PSG will be able to overcomes Newcastle but in fact Newcastle has displayed fantastic performance and playing with very aggressive even with only 26% ball possessions Newcastle can able to scores 4 goals which is Newcastle playing with very affective and their players didn't wasted every chances to scores and on that match PSG has been showing poor defense even the goal from Almirón is pure from PSG players mistakes and now surprisingly Newcastle can occupy first place and this result also makes Newcastle have good chances to qualified to the next round which is they never done this before

Yep, the score 4-1 surprised everyone.

The fantastic result and an incredible performance against a good French team at St. James' Park, Every single member of the team made it count.
Eddie Howe is a tactical genius with a growth mindset mentality. He tactically outclassed Enrique. The man with the big balls
And Miguel Almiron, the Paraguay man, is a massive player for Newcastle.
His work rate and desire are incredible. He always chips in with goals too

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A very impressive victory for Newcastle United, they were the most doubtful team to qualify from this most difficult group but what they showed against PSG slowly changed their status into a team to be reckoned with and this big win proves that they can play in the Champions League this season is not only because the strong teams in the English Premier League performed poorly last season but because they have the ability to play in this prestigious competition.
However, the results of other matches in the same group put Dotmund and AC Milan below Newcastle and PSG. Dortmund not being able to get 3 points against AC Milan at their own home will put them in an even more difficult position compared to the other 3 teams in the group.

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