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October 04, 2023, 04:18:14 AM
I think that it is finally time to sack Ten Haag,in such games when you are playing at home against a weaker opponent from a weaker league and you cannot manage to win this game in front of your home fans then surely it is not the players fault but only of the coach.

They were a joke yesterday night and the biggest surprise to the game results of Tuesday,I also think they have no chance of qualifying with that sort of game play that they showed yesterday night.
Taking drastic decisions is not always the option because a team might suffered for lengthy period of time before they would be able to get back on their feet. For instance, Chelsea sacked Thomas Tuchel who won UEFA Champions League for them and having good contribution to the team, till this present date, they're yet to record any outstanding results, the owners keep sacking appointed coaches because no one would be able to filled in the space left by Tuchel. That's the exact situation United is facing. Sacking Erik Ten Hag wouldn't solved the big challenges of Manchester United because what will happen to the players after the coach who have really try to blend with them is relieved from his duties, ofcourse the new coach wouldn't be such outstanding in games because every manager needs time before they will succeed in their perspective positions.
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October 04, 2023, 04:09:47 AM
It was a really great game and Napoli certainly didn't deserve to lose. If Osimhen had realized his moment when he hit his head almost point-blank, Napoli would not have lost at least, but unfortunately Real were really more lucky. we should note the actions of Bellingham in the moment of the first goal, when he fought for the ball and gave a pass to Vinicius, who realized his moment.

Valverde's goal in the final minutes was also beautiful, although with a ricochet, but a great shot under the crossbar and from the goalkeeper into the goal.
If it were another club like Braga or Union Berlin, Napoli would have done better than it did in the last match. Unfortunately, they were faced with Real Madrid, who's also hungry for goals at this moment, at it won't go well with Ancelotti's performance to allow the big team face the shame at the group C Qualifier. Although Napoli remained a strong fight for them, they were able to repeat a win over Napoli again, after both clubs had met in 2017 UCL and Real Madrid thrashed Napoli 3-1 in both rounds. With the efforts put by Valverde, Bellingham and Vinicius, Real Madrid was able to maintain the lead of the table. I don't think Napoli will be threatened for now but they need to warm up against Union Berlin on the 24th of this month to remain firm in the league.

It seems Manchester United will not qualify for the next round, sure they have a chance if we talk about the probability, but it's high unlikely. They don't have second strategy e.g. new goalkeeper and new defenders, so they will keep use their current poor goalkeeper and defenders.

At least, Hojlund didn't get bullied like Mudryk since he can show his capability Cheesy
I am not happy with the performance of the Manchester united club this season. I don't expect such 'big club' remaining at the buttom of the table in group A. Like, what exactly was the club doing that the English team could not win over Galatasaray yesterday at the Old Trafford stadium. That was a damaging loss to the team to allow Galatasaray take on that advantage. I am no confident on their round of 16 qualifiers. The club seem to be ready to take a break and retire from this years Champions league.

If Icardi had won that penalty he missed, that would have worsen the situation for the Red Devils as it will be 4-2 by now. Same way Bayern Munich trashed the Red Devils in their last challenge. Ten hag is not setting a good record in the Red devils this year. Ten Hag, for the first time, led the Red Devils to start the Champions league group-stage with a zero point at the bottom with successive defeats, a point behind Copenhagen, four points behind their yesterday visitors and 6 points behind Bayern Munich who's leading the group A table.
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October 04, 2023, 04:06:08 AM


The following are the results of matchday 2 yesterday and it can be seen that there were so many matches that were very surprising, especially the results obtained were not far from what we predicted. Firstly, there was of course another defeat suffered by Manchester United and this was their second defeat in the Group A phase which made them stuck in 4th position without getting a single point. Then there were other exciting matches such as Real Madrid who managed to make a comeback at home to Napoli which made them now the top of the standings for Group C. Meanwhile, Bayern Munich almost lost their winning momentum and were lucky, a goal from Mathys Tel saved Bayern Munich from a draw in the away match against Conpehagen. Arsenal's defeat is also a hot topic because they actually lost against Lens who are currently underperforming in the domestic league and of course this does not make Arsenal safe in group B after PSV and Sevilla only shared 1 point.

In your opinion, which match made you unable to stop thinking or even the match that burned your bet last night? Roll Eyes
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October 04, 2023, 03:59:48 AM
It seems Manchester United will not qualify for the next round, sure they have a chance if we talk about the probability, but it's high unlikely. They don't have second strategy e.g. new goalkeeper and new defenders, so they will keep use their current poor goalkeeper and defenders.

At least, Hojlund didn't get bullied like Mudryk since he can show his capability Cheesy

I think that it is finally time to sack Ten Haag,in such games when you are playing at home against a weaker opponent from a weaker league and you cannot manage to win this game in front of your home fans then surely it is not the players fault but only of the coach.

They were a joke yesterday night and the biggest surprise to the game results of Tuesday,I also think they have no chance of qualifying with that sort of game play that they showed yesterday night.
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October 04, 2023, 03:48:20 AM
What Casemiro made was due to Onana's own mistake for passing to the opponent while Casemiro behind him tried to defend by making a tackle, as a result it became a penalty even though the Galatasaray player failed to execute it.
What is done is done and can not be changed but after some bad matches so far, Onana currently is facing with huge pressure. I wish him the best and hopefully he won't be a failed case like Maguire. He still has time to prove his ability and contribute for the club but must play more careful with his feet and sharpen his saving skills more.
It is clear that Onana is facing great pressure because so far he has conceded a lot, meaning his performance with Man United has decreased compared to when he was with Inter Milan.
On the other hand, Erik Ten Hag as a coach continues to support him and has made many blunders - Erik Ten Hag said he would soon recover from adversity, but for them as Man United fans this was a failed purchase for Onana.

Paris Saint Germain were not that dominant in the French Ligue 1 this season, Newcastle United might stand a chance to beat Paris Saint Germain with their high flying confidence after they won 3 straight games in a row including beating Manchester City in the EFL Cup and also the thrashing of Sheffield United by scoring 8 goals past their opponent. I think Newcastle United might emerge as the winner of the match and score their first victory at Group F against Paris Saint Germain.
It's just as likely that Newcastle will win the match with PSG at St James' Park, I don't want to suffer the same fate as the other two English clubs who lost last night even though we predicted we would win but it was unexpected because the final result is always unpredictable.

I had bet on Newcastle winning - looked like this would be possible I thought it was a home game so was quite optimistic.
Onana to me is as shaky as the Manchester United team. I don't see any English teams making it out the group stages except for Manchester city.
It would be a difficult match for PSG who have had more champions league games and more experience.
Although it is until 90' plus extra time would we be sure of the result. Man city will win while Newcastle united match will be above 2.5goal margin.
It's been a while I saw Mbappe against an English side. Would be hoping he plays, that's if he is over the injury scare he has been faced with recently.
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October 04, 2023, 03:40:13 AM
Onana's passing error made Casemiro commit a foul which resulted in a second yellow card for him which made Casemiro leave the field although the penalty did not become a gol because it was too wide but mistakes were made again by Manchester United players which made Icardi successfully punish them in this match.
This is obviously very good for you and the Galatasaray supporters but a little bad for Manchester United because in the first 2 matches Manchester United had to lose points with 2 defeats which made them the caretaker of group A without points.  
Actually, three goals from Galatasaray is not totally mistake from Andre Onana, most weakness with left and right defender position how Galatasaray easily scoring goals last night. Despite his fatal mistake with wrong passing and make Casemiro have received second yellow card actually Manchester United defensive most weakness. Personally, I most excited with Manchester United forward Rasmus Højlund success made brave in this match and specially his second goals with brilliant dribbling start from in the middle field, but he was not luck with Manchester United have got bad result.

Seems Manchester United in terrible condition right now, they have loss 2 of 2 matches in Champion League and left  points from current standings almost close the opportunity qualify from group stage.
It should be noted that what I said earlier was not referring to the 3 goals that occurred but the process when Onana's missed pass earned Casemiro a red card.
I know the other 2 goals were not Onana's fault but it was indeed a missed pass that cost qpqQqManchester United because with that Casemiro was sent off clearly Onana's fault.
Hojlund as a striker has been a little better especially for the Brace in this match but in the end with some mistakes that they have not been able to minimize still makes Manchester United slump.
There is stil a chance of 4 more matches in the Champions League but that opportunity must be tried to win against Copenhagen later. because if they don't get points back honestly I doubt they are still fighting for second place.  
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October 04, 2023, 03:39:32 AM
Napoli and Madrid played a good game and the chances to win were really the same, but Madrid were luckier... Today I think there could be a similar game between Leipzig and City... City have a defeat in the last two games, while Leipzig are very strong...
Even though city was struggling during the previous games didn't even mean if manchester city can be beaten easily by leipzig. We shall also be aware if manchester city may also able to use its best squad. The manchester city may only miss KDB due to the injury.
In fact, city was still very strong and the chance to win EPL is still quite big at this moment. The chance for leipzig to beat city is quite low this time. Im not even thinking if it will be over 2.5 goals.
It may probably less than it. It's caused by city may relatively use the defensive strategy against leipzig. Leipzig was not as strong as before. I hope that everything was right.
City is coming with less squad. It will be giving an advantage for leipzig at this moment. This will become a very hard match to predict but 2-1 for manchester city.
I have seen that many times if manchester city was always able to beat leipzig. The same thing will hapepn again like the previous seasons.
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October 04, 2023, 03:36:50 AM
yes that's right, and this is a losing streak for the red devils, and Manchester United have lost 3 matches at home even though last season they were good at home, thus, they are currently also slumped in the middle of the table. the blunder made by Onana which forced Casemiro to violate the opposing player which eventually led to a penalty and Casemiro got a red card, fortunately the penalty execution from the Galatasaray team was off target but that still did not make it a victory for Manchester United.

In my opinion this is a big mistake to let David De Gea leave Manchester United. to catch points and add points Manchester United must win in the upcoming match unfortunately now this club is ranked 10th in the primary league of course this is not a good ranking, and Erik ten Hag's future is a question mark. However, what is there to say that Erik Ten Hag is on the edge he feels quite confident his position remains safe.

Onana made Casemiro to risk that attack, it would have been a goal if not for that attack but that's what you do to defend your team from losing which he did and it work because they were already 2-2 in that minutes, you will risk your team going 1 point instead of another zero after hardwork of 2 goals but it further risk more pressure from Galatasaray and they were even good, if not that they had a goal cancel, it would have been 4 goals lead by 2.

What was the purpose of Antony coming to Trafford and didn't start, I don't think it is even worth his appearance after the court case only to come and sit behind and come up for substitution after 85 good minutes, what was that? Or Erik wanted him to sub in and score a goal in that minutes to jubilate everyone of his mistake with his girlfriend so they can forgive him. Worse idea to me.  Embarrassed

Manchester United are with 0 points is just like they were in the Champions League but it look as if they are not, the goals are there but winning is difficult, it was the same performance they made with Bayern but later ended with extra goal in favour of Bayern that happened to Galatasaray, I can't even define their faith with the current form. If only Onana will adjust and reduce the goals he is conceding because I don't know how he plan to win the Champions League he always says he dreamt of, it getting out of hand.

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October 04, 2023, 03:34:27 AM
What Casemiro made was due to Onana's own mistake for passing to the opponent while Casemiro behind him tried to defend by making a tackle, as a result it became a penalty even though the Galatasaray player failed to execute it.
What is done is done and can not be changed but after some bad matches so far, Onana currently is facing with huge pressure. I wish him the best and hopefully he won't be a failed case like Maguire. He still has time to prove his ability and contribute for the club but must play more careful with his feet and sharpen his saving skills more.
It is clear that Onana is facing great pressure because so far he has conceded a lot, meaning his performance with Man United has decreased compared to when he was with Inter Milan.
On the other hand, Erik Ten Hag as a coach continues to support him and has made many blunders - Erik Ten Hag said he would soon recover from adversity, but for them as Man United fans this was a failed purchase for Onana.

Paris Saint Germain were not that dominant in the French Ligue 1 this season, Newcastle United might stand a chance to beat Paris Saint Germain with their high flying confidence after they won 3 straight games in a row including beating Manchester City in the EFL Cup and also the thrashing of Sheffield United by scoring 8 goals past their opponent. I think Newcastle United might emerge as the winner of the match and score their first victory at Group F against Paris Saint Germain.
It's just as likely that Newcastle will win the match with PSG at St James' Park, I don't want to suffer the same fate as the other two English clubs who lost last night even though we predicted we would win but it was unexpected because the final result is always unpredictable.

I had bet on Newcastle winning - looked like this would be possible I thought it was a home game so was quite optimistic.
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October 04, 2023, 03:25:23 AM
Napoli showed class and deserved a win but they were not just fortunate. The goal from Bellingham was stunning and was a product of individual efforts. But the other two goals were products of luck. Napoli captain Di Lorenzo caused the first goal when he gave out the ball in a dangerous position which led to the goal by Júnior. The third goal was a wonder strike but the goal was aided by the head of Napoli goalkeeper Meret. Real Madrid will be pleased to get this important three points because Group C is becoming competitive. The fans celebrated Napoli players after the game because it was clear that they deserved to win.
In the end, Napoli did not succeed in beating Real Madrid, Los Blancos emerged victorious from Napoli headquarters by pocketing 3 points. Leading Group C with 2 consecutive wins, and has the opportunity to win the group to qualify for the last 16. It cannot be denied that the match was very fierce and tough, Napoli played with the characteristics of Italian football in general, defending and relying on counter attacks. Madrid have had better luck, that is in line with the attributes they have, mentality and squad depth is key.

Vinicius, Bellingham and Velverde managed to bring Napoli to their knees in front of their fans, the defending Serie A champions had to acknowledge Madrid dominance for the umpteenth time. However, Napoli still has a big chance of qualifying for the last 16 as runners-up in Group C, provided they have to successfully overcome Braga and Union Berlin in the next match.
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October 04, 2023, 03:18:57 AM
It seems Manchester United will not qualify for the next round, sure they have a chance if we talk about the probability, but it's high unlikely. They don't have second strategy e.g. new goalkeeper and new defenders, so they will keep use their current poor goalkeeper and defenders.

At least, Hojlund didn't get bullied like Mudryk since he can show his capability Cheesy
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October 04, 2023, 03:02:25 AM
Manchester United is in big trouble, it seems difficult for them to get out of their downturn. Not only is the crisis of players experiencing injuries but the crisis of self-confidence is also another problem that must be considered.

Yes, Erik Ten Hag's mistake was when he threw De Gea out of the squad and replaced him with Onana. Onana was brave enough to be brought to Old Trafford because of his impressive performance with Inter, but unfortunately for United he always made mistakes that were detrimental to his team. Not only Onana, several other players must also be evaluated for the good of the team. I don't know how long Erik Ten Hag will stay at Old Trafford, if he doesn't get better maybe he will soon be asked to leave because the club has spent a lot of money to build the squad.
After a series of bad results they have received since the start of the season, of course this has had a big impact on the team's self-confidence and the defeat against Galatasaray made things even worse.
And indeed Erik Ten Hag doesn't have many options to get the Manchester United team out of its current problems because many Manchester United players are injured, but no one else can be responsible for what is happening now except the coach.
However, I don't think this is a fault with Onana or Tenhag who prefers Onana over De Gea because all the Manchester United players can't work well and the coach's tactics can't go according to plan because of the limited players they have.
It is very difficult for Manchester United to recover, and now they are slumped at the bottom of the group standings after experiencing 2 defeats in the 2 UCL matches they have played.
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October 04, 2023, 02:57:12 AM
Napoli and Madrid played a good game and the chances to win were really the same, but Madrid were luckier... Today I think there could be a similar game between Leipzig and City... City have a defeat in the last two games, while Leipzig are very strong...

Napoli showed class and deserved a win but they were not just fortunate. The goal from Bellingham was stunning and was a product of individual efforts. But the other two goals were products of luck. Napoli captain Di Lorenzo caused the first goal when he gave out the ball in a dangerous position which led to the goal by Júnior. The third goal was a wonder strike but the goal was aided by the head of Napoli goalkeeper Meret. Real Madrid will be pleased to get this important three points because Group C is becoming competitive. The fans celebrated Napoli players after the game because it was clear that they deserved to win.
Jude's solo run by outwitting 3 players was difficult to control. In addition, the third goal was written by Meret but I don't think we can solely blame Meret for this because Valverde's shot was very strong and directed which made the ball very difficult to block even I think other goalkeepers are also difficult to receive kicks like that.

It was a decent match and both teams I think deserve credit for this match because they both played well even though the result of this match was in favor of Madrid and made Madris firmly at the top.
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October 04, 2023, 02:53:54 AM
Napoli and Madrid played a good game and the chances to win were really the same, but Madrid were luckier... Today I think there could be a similar game between Leipzig and City... City have a defeat in the last two games, while Leipzig are very strong...
It was a really great game and Napoli certainly didn't deserve to lose. If Osimhen had realized his moment when he hit his head almost point-blank, Napoli would not have lost at least, but unfortunately Real were really more lucky. we should note the actions of Bellingham in the moment of the first goal, when he fought for the ball and gave a pass to Vinicius, who realized his moment.

Valverde's goal in the final minutes was also beautiful, although with a ricochet, but a great shot under the crossbar and from the goalkeeper into the goal.
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October 04, 2023, 02:44:38 AM
Napoli and Madrid played a good game and the chances to win were really the same, but Madrid were luckier... Today I think there could be a similar game between Leipzig and City... City have a defeat in the last two games, while Leipzig are very strong...

Napoli showed class and deserved a win but they were not just fortunate. The goal from Bellingham was stunning and was a product of individual efforts. But the other two goals were products of luck. Napoli captain Di Lorenzo caused the first goal when he gave out the ball in a dangerous position which led to the goal by Júnior. The third goal was a wonder strike but the goal was aided by the head of Napoli goalkeeper Meret. Real Madrid will be pleased to get this important three points because Group C is becoming competitive. The fans celebrated Napoli players after the game because it was clear that they deserved to win.
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October 04, 2023, 02:43:26 AM
Napoli and Madrid played a good game and the chances to win were really the same, but Madrid were luckier... Today I think there could be a similar game between Leipzig and City... City have a defeat in the last two games, while Leipzig are very strong...
Even though Napoli lost to Real Madrid, I would say Napoli's performance was good in this match against Real Madrid. The mistake for Napoli was the own goal, the own goal confirmed their defeat. However, even though Real Madrid entered the field with their full-strength eleven in this match, they could not win against Napoli. If it wasn't for the suicide goal in the 78th minute, the points would definitely have been shared in this match.  

I'm a big fan of Real Madrid but I'd say Napoli did a great job in this match. Real Madrid must perform better if they want to do well in this season's Champions League. Real Madrid's performance against Napoli was average, this average performance will never win the Champions League.
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October 04, 2023, 02:39:17 AM
Napoli and Madrid played a good game and the chances to win were really the same, but Madrid were luckier... Today I think there could be a similar game between Leipzig and City... City have a defeat in the last two games, while Leipzig are very strong...
Madrid are used to playing in the UCL and in fact they are always the favorites to win the UCL therefore it is not easy to beat Madrid even though Napoli are playing at home, last night's match both of them played as hard as possible to show their best game, it cannot be said to be lucky because Madrid knows how how to overcome Napoli and beat them even though they have to concede two goals.

Manchester City will probably get an easy win against Leipzig, although sometimes Manchester City can be unpredictable when playing as hard as possible, but like giving in to a club that is not the favorite, I don't think they will experience another defeat after experiencing the previous defeat in the domestic league. Guardiola must really pressure his players to play better than the previous game to win.
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October 04, 2023, 02:34:36 AM
If Manchester united continue like this in this season, I think they will miss their opportunity in this tournament because they have the opportunity to win the match against Galatasaray to embrace three points from the match but they allowed them to equalized the goals at 71 minutes and achieved the winning goal at 81 minutes to defeated Manchester united. If Manchester united coach can work on their defenders and goalkeeper before their next match, I believe they will be able to defeat Copenhagen 2-0 to make their fans happy, and give them hope that they will top up in their group stage in this season. Since Bayern Munich is part of this group with Manchester united, it will going to be a tough match for this group, and Manchester united need to go and prepare themselves well so that they will be able to withstand their opponent in their remaining matches.
Manchester United is not ready and does not have the capacity  to continue in the Champion League even the Premier league is not in favor of Manchester United. If not for Casemiro red card is either Manchester united will draw or win the game, I did not expect much from them but from their performance they tried even if they did not win. Bayern Munich is on another level and can disable most of the clubs in their group. When you said they need to prepare there self i was already wondering what preparation they can do again i don't think Manchester united have anything serious to offer for now because they ain't going far in this champions league. Better luck for them next time.
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I'm sure everyone who bet on Arsenal has lost money, including me. Cheesy

How could it not be that Arsenal has made me crazy, as have most people who have predictions that Arsenal will win easily in this away match against Lens. Even though Arsenal took the lead first and it made me even more optimistic that they would win by a landslide. However, it wasn't long before Lens managed to equalize before finally making a comeback in the second half. My multibet was immediately destroyed when Arsenal lost and even though the Bayern Munich bet was not optimal, at least I could still double my money here. Despite all that, the 2-1 score lasted until the final minute and this result meant that Arsenal failed to occupy the top position, while Lens managed to overtake Arsenal with 4 points.
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That was a reckless tackle by Casemeiro and his decision cost the team to lose, some may think that he did that for the team to prevent the goal but to me its a poor decision because a goal scored can always be equalized. The team suffered and they were in even more pressure and the story could have been different if the penalty went in.

I don’t think with Manchester United’s performance currently they can survive the group stage, they need to improve their game if they really want to qualify to the knockout round. They are not in good shape both in the Premier league and other competitions but no one can tell where the problem lies but I think the coach is not doing enough.
Don't blame Casemiro for the action that led to the penalty. It was Onana's fault because of the careless clearance of the ball which had to enter the legs of Mertens and Casemiro had to see if he could do something to save the team and as Mertens knew he was coming, ran into his front and that penalty was awarded. As it is, Onana is not living up to expectations and I can see frustration deeply liming his features. All he needs right now is to be relaxed, some games he should not start, so he can be able to ease off steam because at this rate of over use he'd not be able to pick up form.
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