UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 991.

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Quote from: borovichok on October 04, 2023, 12:12:43 AM

Erik Ten Hag is confused at this moment, putting in all his effort and having zero positive outcome. The Red Devils are without a points having two consecutive losses in UCL, a tough game for them. Manchester United have all the necessary advantage needed to grab a winning against Galatasaray last night but they messed up their important chances. Manchester United performance was weigh below standard at Old Trafford, the whole game was totally error from the defendlines, from Diogo Dalot and André Onana mistakes, gave Galatasaray a through path to punished the Red Devils.

From the beginning of the match Galatasaray team looked more confident, show readiness to win and fortunately they won. I didn’t expect such performance from them against United. Perhaps, it's because I didn't watch their first UCL match and wasn't aware they're this good. Manchester united wasted some precious chances actually but I won't agree with you that they had more chance to win against Galatasaray. From my observation, Galatasaray deserve to win because they play with full force and energy compare to united who doesn't look dangerous.

It baffles me how everyone is talking about Onana"s mistakes and left out Rashford. Rashford is the one who contributed most to the defeat of Manchester united in yesterday's game. If all chances he wasted were converted to goal, United would have won or the scoreline will be balanced. Yes, Onana actually fumble but at least he corrected his mistake by saving the penalty. I wonder if Rashford is somehow related to ETH in anyway as he keep starting him despite his very poor performance week in week out.

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Quote from: Strongkored on October 03, 2023, 09:49:48 PM

Casemiro's game often endangers his own club, it is very unfortunate that the red card really put Manchester United in danger, this defeat was really surprised them and put United in the bottom standings so it will start to raise doubts that they can survive in the Champions League. because losing in a home match is a big loss.

A team from the English Premier League also had unpleasant results because Arsenal lost to Lens even though the away team managed to control the match Lens managed to take advantage of better opportunities.

What Casemiro made was due to Onana's own mistake for passing to the opponent while Casemiro behind him tried to defend by making a tackle, as a result it became a penalty even though the Galatasaray player failed to execute it.

After that they lost their balance in defense to catch Man United defenders off guard, this is even more dilapidated into the Man United squad, Onana with an expensive goalkeeper has a lot of goals if I'm not mistaken after he joined 18 goals into his goal.

Man United's situation in Group A is getting worse, I'm not sure they will make it through if they see this poor performance, Erik Ten Hag has not been able to evaluate as a whole.

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WTF, after I was impressed by Man United performance in the 1st match when they visited Bayern Munich, they got 3 scores even though they lost, but Munich victory at that time was very narrow, with a difference of 1 score and I thought after seeing MU performance at that time, it was very strong, able to perform on par with Munich I thought MU would win against Galatasaray but it was very disappointing after Casemiro made a mistake getting a red card so MU had to play with 10 unbalanced players and conceded in the 81st minute. Man United thwarted my multi bet. Roll Eyes

but I was impressed by the performance of Vinicius and Bellingham solid collaboration, Bellingham even got 1 assist after Vinicius managed to score and luck came after a very hard kick from Federico resulted in a goal because it hit the Napoli goalkeeper and Alex Meret produced an OG goal for Real madrid victory.

and then Bayern munich also had pretty good performance but unfortunately Kane could not score when Copenhagen defenders always prevented Kane from scoring but Musiala was able to appear to get good score and Mathys Tel this young player managed to score winner for Bayern Munich.

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Quote from: Strongkored on October 03, 2023, 09:49:48 PM

Casemiro's game often endangers his own club, it is very unfortunate that the red card really put Manchester United in danger

He sacrifice himself because if he not tackle at that time, the chance Galatasaray will score one more goal is high. Actually he already tried to save Manchester United from defeat as Icardi missed the penalty. But Amrabat making Manchester United lose due to his mistake.

Both of Onana and Manchester United's defenders are playing like shit, it's better to replace all of them.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on October 03, 2023, 11:37:30 PM

If Manchester united continue like this in this season, I think they will miss their opportunity in this tournament because they have the opportunity to win the match against Galatasaray to embrace three points from the match but they allowed them to equalized the goals at 71 minutes and achieved the winning goal at 81 minutes to defeated Manchester united. If Manchester united coach can work on their defenders and goalkeeper before their next match, I believe they will be able to defeat Copenhagen 2-0 to make their fans happy, and give them hope that they will top up in their group stage in this season. Since Bayern Munich is part of this group with Manchester united, it will going to be a tough match for this group, and Manchester united need to go and prepare themselves well so that they will be able to withstand their opponent in their remaining matches.

The only thing they (MU) can do if the want to qualify to the knock out stage is to win all the remaining matches in the group stage but I think it is something close to impossible. Defeated in the first 2 matches is a big disadvantage of course, especially they conceded by 7 goals total. It proves that their defense is so bad and I think Ten Hag has no many options to improve the the team. Sorry to say for United's fans, they should be ready for the worst case this season. They did start both EPL and UCL badly, last season was better if I remember it correctly. This season, what they have shown so far is like a mediocre team, nothing special if you ask me.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on October 03, 2023, 11:27:22 PM

I think everyone would confirm that Manchester United was superior in squad quality to Galatasaray. For example Galatasaray defenders had many problems trying to handle/contain Manchester United wingers and striker. But problem was still Manchester United not being former Manchester United at all. I obviously think that Manchester united defenders are weird because Galatasaray s goals and positions were very funny (defender heading an assist forward, how? where are central midfielders and defenders?)

Erik Ten Hag is confused at this moment, putting in all his effort and having zero positive outcome. The Red Devils are without a points having two consecutive losses in UCL, a tough game for them. Manchester United have all the necessary advantage needed to grab a winning against Galatasaray last night but they messed up their important chances. Manchester United performance was weigh below standard at Old Trafford, the whole game was totally error from the defendlines, from Diogo Dalot and André Onana mistakes, gave Galatasaray a through path to punished the Red Devils.

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Manchester United just might not make it to the round of 16.

It is very possible, but Manchester United still has the time to put things right, though it is going to be quite difficult. Their fate would be decided in their next two UCL games which is against Copenhagan, both home and away, if they can win both matches, then they'd be back in contention to make it to the RO16. Manchester United are in a really tough group and i am not sure they understood how tough the group would be after the draw was made.

Erik Ten Hag is under so much pressure, the hierarchy at Manchester United would definitely give him time, but he'll be forcing their hand into a change if the club continues to lose football matches, a club like Manchester United shouldn't be struggling the way they are doing right now.

If Manchester united continue like this in this season, I think they will miss their opportunity in this tournament because they have the opportunity to win the match against Galatasaray to embrace three points from the match but they allowed them to equalized the goals at 71 minutes and achieved the winning goal at 81 minutes to defeated Manchester united. If Manchester united coach can work on their defenders and goalkeeper before their next match, I believe they will be able to defeat Copenhagen 2-0 to make their fans happy, and give them hope that they will top up in their group stage in this season. Since Bayern Munich is part of this group with Manchester united, it will going to be a tough match for this group, and Manchester united need to go and prepare themselves well so that they will be able to withstand their opponent in their remaining matches.

Manchester United's performance this season seems to be very bad, if this performance continues, Manchester United will definitely be knocked out of the Champions League. The match against Galatasaray was easy to win but they didn't win this match instead they lost badly. Although Manchester United were in good form early on and they attacked brilliantly when they were two goals up, there were chances to win the match but unfortunately Galatasaray leveled the game in the 71st minute. But Manchester United player Casemiro got a red card for a foul in the 77th minute and Manchester United's team weakened. And with this opportunity, Galatasaray made a great attack and scored another goal in the 81st minute to reach the goal of victory. However, Manchester United's course this season must take enough steps to win the next few games and the goalkeeper needs to improve. Moreover, Manchester United must win the next match against Copenhagen otherwise the team will be in a worse position. However, Bayern Munich is a strong team, I think they will have a tough fight in this group and Manchester United must prepare enough to win this match.

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Manchester United just might not make it to the round of 16.

It is very possible, but Manchester United still has the time to put things right, though it is going to be quite difficult. Their fate would be decided in their next two UCL games which is against Copenhagan, both home and away, if they can win both matches, then they'd be back in contention to make it to the RO16. Manchester United are in a really tough group and i am not sure they understood how tough the group would be after the draw was made.

Erik Ten Hag is under so much pressure, the hierarchy at Manchester United would definitely give him time, but he'll be forcing their hand into a change if the club continues to lose football matches, a club like Manchester United shouldn't be struggling the way they are doing right now.

If Manchester united continue like this in this season, I think they will miss their opportunity in this tournament because they have the opportunity to win the match against Galatasaray to embrace three points from the match but they allowed them to equalized the goals at 71 minutes and achieved the winning goal at 81 minutes to defeated Manchester united. If Manchester united coach can work on their defenders and goalkeeper before their next match, I believe they will be able to defeat Copenhagen 2-0 to make their fans happy, and give them hope that they will top up in their group stage in this season. Since Bayern Munich is part of this group with Manchester united, it will going to be a tough match for this group, and Manchester united need to go and prepare themselves well so that they will be able to withstand their opponent in their remaining matches.

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Manchester United actually didn't have a bad performance. They were very effective offensively throughout the match, but if there is a problem with something, it could be Casemiro's penalty and the red card he received. Everything in Galatasaray's favor became more evident after that red card. Before that, Galatasaray, which scored 2 goals with 2 counter attacks, found strong positions against ManU, which was missing. As a result, they scored the third goal and won the match. ETH may now need to be questioned in Manchester United.

In terms of play, Manchester United were indeed able to perform well and create dangerous attacks, but the carelessness of their own players made everything fall apart. Casemiro's red card gave Galatasaray more freedom, but Onana's poor performance was also the main cause of the defeat. Erik Ten Hag is really quite confused about the problems plaguing his team. I think Ten Hag must have the courage to make decisions for players who cannot make a big contribution to the team. Now Erik Ten Hag's fate is truly on the brink.

I think everyone would confirm that Manchester United was superior in squad quality to Galatasaray. For example Galatasaray defenders had many problems trying to handle/contain Manchester United wingers and striker. But problem was still Manchester United not being former Manchester United at all. I obviously think that Manchester united defenders are weird because Galatasaray s goals and positions were very funny (defender heading an assist forward, how? where are central midfielders and defenders?)

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on October 03, 2023, 05:11:23 PM

Manchester United have put themselves under a lot of pressure now by not winning Galatasaray.
Man United play Copenhagen away next and it is a must-win game if they're to keep their hopes of qualifying alive. With what Copenhagen played against Bayern Munich, I won't be surprised if Man United doesn't win that match.

Copenhagen were really good, way better than they played in their opening match against Galatasaray. I would love to see how they would do against Manchester United.
If Man United fail to win they're halfway out of the competition because I don't think they'll be able to win Galatasaray in Turkey or Bayern Munich.

It seems difficult for Manchester United to qualify for the next round, after receiving defeat against Galatasaray at home. The performance of Erik Ten Hak's men was not at all worthy of playing in the Champions League, especially for the defenders and Diogo Dalot made a mistake because he was unable to close down Zaha's space, resulting in the equalizer. Andre Onana made many Manchester United fans feel disappointed with his performance because he did not show a suitable replacement for De Gea, Manchester United's chances of qualifying for the next round are very small because they have not yet got a single point.

This defeat also looked very disappointing for Rasmus Hojlund because even though he scored two goals, they still failed to secure points, only Rasmus Hojlund showed his best performance in the match. It seems that Erik Ten Hak's condition is also not very safe in the coaching chair at the moment because he failed to bring Manchester United to a better performance than the previous season.

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Quote from: Strongkored on October 03, 2023, 09:49:48 PM

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In terms of play, Manchester United were indeed able to perform well and create dangerous attacks, but the carelessness of their own players made everything fall apart. Casemiro's red card gave Galatasaray more freedom, but Onana's poor performance was also the main cause of the defeat. Erik Ten Hag is really quite confused about the problems plaguing his team. I think Ten Hag must have the courage to make decisions for players who cannot make a big contribution to the team. Now Erik Ten Hag's fate is truly on the brink.

Casemiro's game often endangers his own club, it is very unfortunate that the red card really put Manchester United in danger, this defeat was really surprised them and put United in the bottom standings so it will start to raise doubts that they can survive in the Champions League. because losing in a home match is a big loss.

A team from the English Premier League also had unpleasant results because Arsenal lost to Lens even though the away team managed to control the match Lens managed to take advantage of better opportunities.

@Strongkored I fear for Ten Hag job now because it’s clear that due to his ego he’ll only select his favourite player’s irrespective of how well they perform or not and unless he benches his favourite player’s there’s no real hope of him surviving this crisis period. Furthermore except Højlund the entire team deserves to be benched but Ten Hag won’t do that and that’s why the player’s have lost the need to perform because their places are already secured and lastly if one or two more defeats happen then that’ll probably signal the end of his job.

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Quote from: Vinaa77 on October 03, 2023, 09:10:52 PM

In terms of play, Manchester United were indeed able to perform well and create dangerous attacks, but the carelessness of their own players made everything fall apart. Casemiro's red card gave Galatasaray more freedom, but Onana's poor performance was also the main cause of the defeat. Erik Ten Hag is really quite confused about the problems plaguing his team. I think Ten Hag must have the courage to make decisions for players who cannot make a big contribution to the team. Now Erik Ten Hag's fate is truly on the brink.

Casemiro's game often endangers his own club, it is very unfortunate that the red card really put Manchester United in danger, this defeat was really surprised them and put United in the bottom standings so it will start to raise doubts that they can survive in the Champions League. because losing in a home match is a big loss.

A team from the English Premier League also had unpleasant results because Arsenal lost to Lens even though the away team managed to control the match Lens managed to take advantage of better opportunities.

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Onana was not in his day today. Of course, we can say the same for the defensive zone, as it was not on Onana day. For example, in Icardi's goal, the defensive zone was completely asleep. Onana could not do anything in that region. A professional striker like Icardi would not miss this position. He was upset about missing the penalty, but scoring the goal after coming to the defense and creating a position raised his morale to the highest level. It was a good day for Galatasaray.

Not today only but the season so far is not his season.

Manchester United bought him to replace De Gea because they saw Onana can help them with his passing skills but in today match, he made a bad passing that caused a penalty. Luckily for him and Manchester United, Icardi missed that penalty. However, with that bad pass, Onana is not better than De Gea in this skill and he even made a worse pass than what De Gea did to Maguire in Europa League last season.

A third goal from Galatasary shows that Onana does not have too excellent saving skills.

Last year was like a golden season for Onana. That's why they paid a huge amount of money to bring him to the team, and now we are talking about his skills not being enough. Of course, he is talented, but he may not have been able to adapt to the team. In this case, starting a few matches as a substitute could have an impact for him. Maybe he needs to rest to play more concentrated, I don't know. Making such mistakes in such an important tournament made ManU fans very angry.

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Such an amazing night! As a fan of Galatasaray, tonight was so good. Galatasaray win against United at United's home. It's very happiness Manchester lost at home, the already have no point in the group. Today, Zaha, Kerem and Icardi scored. Icardi missed a penalty but scored 3 minutes later. Casemiro's red card and penalty was the right decision.

Onana's passing error made Casemiro commit a foul which resulted in a second yellow card for him which made Casemiro leave the field although the penalty did not become a gol because it was too wide but mistakes were made again by Manchester United players which made Icardi successfully punish them in this match.
This is obviously very good for you and the Galatasaray supporters but a little bad for Manchester United because in the first 2 matches Manchester United had to lose points with 2 defeats which made them the caretaker of group A without points.

Actually, three goals from Galatasaray is not totally mistake from Andre Onana, most weakness with left and right defender position how Galatasaray easily scoring goals last night. Despite his fatal mistake with wrong passing and make Casemiro have received second yellow card actually Manchester United defensive most weakness. Personally, I most excited with Manchester United forward Rasmus Højlund success made brave in this match and specially his second goals with brilliant dribbling start from in the middle field, but he was not luck with Manchester United have got bad result.

Seems Manchester United in terrible condition right now, they have loss 2 of 2 matches in Champion League and left points from current standings almost close the opportunity qualify from group stage.

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Quote from: Phoenix Anka on October 03, 2023, 08:57:42 PM

Manchester United actually didn't have a bad performance. They were very effective offensively throughout the match, but if there is a problem with something, it could be Casemiro's penalty and the red card he received. Everything in Galatasaray's favor became more evident after that red card. Before that, Galatasaray, which scored 2 goals with 2 counter attacks, found strong positions against ManU, which was missing. As a result, they scored the third goal and won the match. ETH may now need to be questioned in Manchester United.

In terms of play, Manchester United were indeed able to perform well and create dangerous attacks, but the carelessness of their own players made everything fall apart. Casemiro's red card gave Galatasaray more freedom, but Onana's poor performance was also the main cause of the defeat. Erik Ten Hag is really quite confused about the problems plaguing his team. I think Ten Hag must have the courage to make decisions for players who cannot make a big contribution to the team. Now Erik Ten Hag's fate is truly on the brink.

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Quote from: W Jr. on October 03, 2023, 08:11:40 PM

Onana was not in his day today. Of course, we can say the same for the defensive zone, as it was not on Onana day. For example, in Icardi's goal, the defensive zone was completely asleep. Onana could not do anything in that region. A professional striker like Icardi would not miss this position. He was upset about missing the penalty, but scoring the goal after coming to the defense and creating a position raised his morale to the highest level. It was a good day for Galatasaray.

Not today only but the season so far is not his season.

Manchester United bought him to replace De Gea because they saw Onana can help them with his passing skills but in today match, he made a bad passing that caused a penalty. Luckily for him and Manchester United, Icardi missed that penalty. However, with that bad pass, Onana is not better than De Gea in this skill and he even made a worse pass than what De Gea did to Maguire in Europa League last season.

A third goal from Galatasary shows that Onana does not have too excellent saving skills.

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Manchester united is still struggling to beat their opponent, despite the squads they use to start the game and the game ended up draw 1:1 in the 45 minutes. Real Madrid is showing Napoli that they are not small team they can beat easily in this UEFA champions league because, Real Madrid is leading the game with 2:1 to calm the stadium down for their fans to seat comfortable in their various seat. If Real Madrid can maintain this solid defensive through out the game it will be the thing of joy for them to celebrate for topping their group table because, once Napoli make some changes in the second half they may use the opportunity to draw the game 2:2 , and that is their major target in this second half if Real Madrid are not careful.

Manchester united was loosing the game as i predicted if MU will not able to perform as good as what it used to be. There have been many problems have been occurring to this club. MU's performance is a joke. This club played so badly against galatasaray. MU deserves not to be qualified for play off stage. It must be going back to the europa league. MU's level is still far away from competing in the UCL. It has horrible performance at this moment. Real madrid was winning against napoli.
That's the reason i was taking double chance for this match as the result is very hard to predict at this moment. My prediction was right caused by how hard to determine the winner of this match.
There have been many surprises were coming. EPL team performances are joke this time. They were showing terrible performances that was hurting my eyes. That being said that if almost all of english teams that play this day have underrated performance.

Manchester United actually didn't have a bad performance. They were very effective offensively throughout the match, but if there is a problem with something, it could be Casemiro's penalty and the red card he received. Everything in Galatasaray's favor became more evident after that red card. Before that, Galatasaray, which scored 2 goals with 2 counter attacks, found strong positions against ManU, which was missing. As a result, they scored the third goal and won the match. ETH may now need to be questioned in Manchester United.

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Quote from: rdluffy on October 03, 2023, 06:13:05 PM

After watching the Real Madrid game, I stopped to think about how the team has a VERY interesting attack in the Champions League

Today they played with the following attack:

Bellingham (20), Vini Jr (23) and Rodrygo (22), young players with a lot of experience, including Champions League experience, and all three are playing very well. Real have a very strong attack. With the experience of Kroos and Modric, they can go very far in this edition and are certainly one of the big favorites to win the title
They've got an attack that can last for many years

Do you think it's the best attack in the league or is there a better or more promising one?

This common strategies which Ancelotti used for this season in all competitions and the results is very affective because Real Madrid can playing more attacking and sometimes Ancelotti has did a rotation with played Joselu in the Rodrygo position or when Vinicius got injured Joselu has been played as the striker along with Rodrygo and the results is very good that Joselu can able to performing well and the most important is this formation has been maximize the skill of Bellingham that since he was playing as attcking midfielder Bellingham goals records was increasing rapidly so indirectly Ancelotti has been solved the losing of Benzema and so far this is the best formation for Real Madrid during this season

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Quote from: W Jr. on October 03, 2023, 08:11:40 PM

Onana was not in his day today. Of course, we can say the same for the defensive zone, as it was not on Onana day. For example, in Icardi's goal, the defensive zone was completely asleep. Onana could not do anything in that region. A professional striker like Icardi would not miss this position. He was upset about missing the penalty, but scoring the goal after coming to the defense and creating a position raised his morale to the highest level. It was a good day for Galatasaray.

Onana's quality is so bad that he doesn't even deserve to play in big teams or big competitions. Onana's performance was still very amateur even though he had previously been successful with Inter. It is recorded that Onana has conceded 18 goals so far in various competitions and has made several blunders which caused big losses to the team. Due to this incident, I think Erik Ten Hag has been able to rest for some time to restore his slumping mentality. Congratulations to Galatasaray because this victory is a sweet history that is hard to forget!

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Onana has become a major problem to Manchester United because of over confidence that he has in him, this has led to his poor performance. It is better that Onana stays on the bench for some time so that he will come back to his senses when he has misses some matches. Maybe this will help him become more serious. Manchester united has lost three consecutive matches back to back, two in EPL and this one in the champions league. Which isn't a good record for a big club like Manchester United.

Why is that any Sly's mistakes their will end it up on Onana? You won't just say that Onana should stay on the bench for sometime, people no supposed to they blame that guy,, because is really try his possible best. Manchester United players need to improve their performance because they're performance is very low, especially defenses their really have to improve if not what they're running about it will still come back to them. The surprise thing be say Galatasaray wey no fit win any English team for England com use Man united break the record.

Onana was not in his day today. Of course, we can say the same for the defensive zone, as it was not on Onana day. For example, in Icardi's goal, the defensive zone was completely asleep. Onana could not do anything in that region. A professional striker like Icardi would not miss this position. He was upset about missing the penalty, but scoring the goal after coming to the defense and creating a position raised his morale to the highest level. It was a good day for Galatasaray.

Manchester United's defense this season is not much different from last season and is always hampered by a defense that is not strong enough, and even though Onana always tries to defend his goal, in my opinion he is not good enough for Manchester United.
And it is hoped that Onana's arrival will help Manchester United build attacks from behind, but as we can see, Manchester United's defense is also not strong enough and both of them must be really improved by Erik ten Hag.
And Manchester United's defeat to Galatasaray at Old Trafford left them slumped at the bottom of Group A, and in this match I saw that Manchester United's mentality looked messy.

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