Topic: UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season - page 384. (Read 57213 times)

Planning for the future and the long term is something a lot of teams out there seem not to have except for a few who sees it as important enough and they eventually put in plans for it, like you have sighted, Barcelona happens to be a team who exhaustively enjoyed their glory days without plans for the future, probably thinking there wouldn't be a time they will struggle this much because already they had the top and best players in their team and as at this times, it felt like this players were never going to leave the team because players like Messi do renewed his contract often and it was almost looking like he was going to have a life deal with Barcelona and so Barcelona didn't really feel the need to plan ahead pretty soon until now they have to suffer their fate.

One team amongst all the team in Europe and Spain that seem to have all this in place is Madrid and it can be seen in how they already have a substitute team that performs almost like the main team, this shows that in the nearest future they will still be as good as they have been and may not be having the need to carry out too many signings except if the players decides to leave of which I don't see that really happening as these players are willing to be part of the success they all enjoy at Madrid which is a plus to their careers. Barcelona when they eventually get pas this stage of their problem may probably want to plan for the future that's if they have learnt enough from their mistakes in the past.

Well, well, well, the circus is back in town! The new Champions League structure, the best entertainment on Earth (or so UEFA wants us to think).

More games? Oh, how generous of them. They obviously give the players' welfare great importance, not only of their own finances. They seem to be pushing players toward their most profitable limits. The secondary squads already line up, eager to make UCL as fascinating as seeing paint dry. Thank you, Ceferin, for your outstanding development not asked for by anyone.

49 pages already before even the qualification rounds starts? That's just huge. 

There are tons of teams to compete in 1/8-finals phase in qualification but I will be following quarter finals part closer as there are more decent teams to watch.

Here is qualification quarter finals:



I don't think we would see a surprise in this phase. Dynamo Kyiv and Fenerbahçe both have comfortable matchups ahead. These teams are going to play 3 matchups before reaching the group stage right? It is going to be quite tough for them to make it considering potential opponents later.

There are four teams I am tipping to get to the semi finals of the champions league next season.The first team I know they will get to the semi final is Real Madrid.They are fully prepared for next season,and with the acquisition of Mbape,they have planned to retain that champions league tittle.Another team that I cannot exempt from my list is Mancity.Pep Guardiola is looking at the possibility of making a move to somewhere else next season,so his altimate target is to win the Champions league,the premier league and any other trophy before leaving,which will serve as a record he has kept at the team.,then Arsenal is another team which will be looking forward to improving next season because they have a complete squad that can win anything for them,and lastly is Leverkusen is another team that will be a threat in the Champions league next season,with Xabi Alonso coaching there,he will really prove himself to get to a greater stage in the tournament.

It's true, even narratives about Messi only playing well when he was at Barcelona or only playing well for one team were heard when Messi was at Paris Saint Germain, so I question it when someone says that Messi is the greatest signing that Paris Saint Germain has made. Maybe saying one of the most expensive signings is still acceptable, but if it has to do with his game with Paris Saint Germain, I don't think so.
Because he could almost be said to have failed in his first season with Paris Saint Germain, I don't mean to doubt his ability as one of the best players in the world. Because there may be reasons why players cannot adapt quickly to a team and that may be what Messi experienced when he was at Paris Saint Germain. Also maybe because here the relationship between the players is not very good, because almost every time we hear about problems between them. that might also be one of the causes.

Why do you consider Messi the best acquisition for PSG? Messi in PSG was remembered by the fact that he could not adapt to the team for a very long time, scored not many goals and received a huge salary. PSG is trying different tactics, they thought that they could collect all the best players in the same team and this would allow them to win, it is now clear that they abandoned this idea, and Enrique showed them that without all super players he almost reached the final, and if only a little more luck could have played in the finale, because PSG looked better than Dortmund.

I think Pep Guardiola had to pay a heavy price for the previous failure. Manchester City's problem is that they always meet a strong team like Madrid before the UCL final, even though everyone expects these two teams to meet in the final but they always meet before the final. Pep Guardiola knows that Madrid has new strengths. namely the arrival of Mbappe in their main squad and filling in a striker in their front line, of course it will also be a threat to Manchester City's defense, because in Manchester City's defense sometimes communication errors and blunders often occur, hopefully Pep Guardiola will fix this in the next season only later.

I don't know who Pep Guardiola will recruit because of course what I think is that their back line is not good, so it's important to strengthen their back line because it's important to keep the defense from conceding goals, I also think that Pep Guardiola should be able to focus more on the UCL because I think that's an important match too, even though maybe the EPL is also quite important for Manchester City to pursue, at least they should be able to focus more on playing in the UCL so they can win their second trophy next season.

UEFA will be benefited mostly from this new format of Champions League. They will milk money from televisions, clubs and players in next seasons. A next season, 2024 - 2025 will not be too controversial but one season after that, 2025 - 2026, will potentially cause more problems and controversy. In a year with World Cup 2026, players will face with high risk of exhaustion and injuries because of new format in Champions League.

National teams will have more reasons to complain about that format because many star players will not be ready with best fitness for World Cup 2026. This new format will make that issue worse than previous World Cups.

The new structure delivers more matches, but UEFA is also milking the players into playing longer than the previous version. The new format of UCL is going to be even more taxing for club players because they will be playing more matches, and this system has already been applied in football management. I was also pretty confused about how to rotate my players in this format because of the very busy schedules on my football manager team.

My impression after playing the new format on Football Manager is that if the previous format is still better than this new one; the new format is far too complicated and tiresome. Alexandre Caferrin sees football players as a money machine, and I strongly disagree with this new format. And last, UCL may not be so attractive because clubs often use their secondary squad. 

I am also a fan of Manchester City and what you say is true that the Champions League is difficult to dominate and if we remember again how Haaland is also favored as a reliable player who is a very great scorer and last season Manchester City also managed to win the Champion League title which can be proof that other clubs can also become strong clubs even though Real Madrid has Mbappe but that is not a guarantee.
If we remember again how Manchester City performed in the quarter-finals yesterday, there was only a very narrow difference in score, but Real Madrid could be superior by 1 score and that is also proof that Manchester City is still the strongest opponent for Real Madrid as long as Manchester still has Haaland, everything will just fine.

Until now there has been no confirmation that Pep Guardiola will replace his main players and it is possible that there will only be slight changes to several main players but not to the attack line which is already neatly arranged.
Pep Guardiola is still very enthusiastic about winning the champions league title again after having gained experience at that time, making this coach have great enthusiasm even though he has failed but will not reduce Pep Guardiola's confidence.

A new format of Champions League will bring more matches that are opportunities for UEFA to get more money and strongest clubs will have more income. There will be chance for small clubs to join Champions League but I don't see potential to reduce wealth gap between biggest clubs and small clubs. This new format will increase gaps in wealth among rich and poor clubs, not make it better.

After some seasons with this new format, we will recognize this impact with real data, not only prediction like now.

Leo Messi was one of the greatest signing for Paris Saint-Germain but they've failed and missed out on golden opportunities,  we just have to see the present scene of the system. PSG had everything to win major titles but they failed woefully because the management failed also, bringing them together to achieve a common goal straight out seems challenging. Real Madrid is executive the best team in the world of football and we unfortunately the principles they've been operating on. They will lift more elite titles infront.

At the beginning of the season, it's very correct that every team in the league has got equal Chance at winning the trophy, but the problem always lay within the ability of utilizing that equality of opportunity that was granted at the beginning of the season till the end of the season a d been able to probably win the league title at the end of the season. E Everyone has been showing great support to Madrid because they all believe in the ability of Madrid especially in their ability to be able to bring home the champions league trophy by the end of the season, other team haven't possessed much strength enough to win the support of people just almost immediately.

When PSG had mbappe, Messi and even nymer , most persons Also gave equals support they are given this is because of the varieties of personal interest all around which has led to controversy on wanting a particular team to win the league title by the end of the season. When a team comes up with a very solid squad, it gives them that advantage to gain more support because it is believed that their chance are higher to win the league title than others even before the league kicks off, but the champions league isn't such that you can be too sure until it's over.

I understand what you mean when you say many people predicted that Paris Saint Germaine were gonna win the UEFA Champions League title the seasons they had Kylian Mbappe, Neymar Jr and Lionel Messi in the squad but never did they win the trophy through out their stay at the French club but I'll want us to put in to contest with the fact that Paris Saint Germaine never won the trophy before those three players became teammates at the club for Real Madrid, the story is different. Real Madrid before the arrival of Kylian Mbappe are already 15 times European champions and are also gonna be defending the trophy next season. So the arrival of Kylian Mbappe is not for him to help the club win a trophy they've never won before but to help the club continue their European dominance.
Real Madrid already have a very squad that are serial winners of the European Cup and will continue to win in their history. With the presence of Kylian Mbappe at Real Madrid, the club's chances of winning the UEFA Champions League in seasons to come I think is now more likely.

Aha. I didn't say Madrid's odds are small. I'm only say every other team has a fair chance and this is football. When we get big upsets for Madrid in the coming UCL, I'll be here. I have nothing about the team but everyone here is hell bent on them winning. It was similar to when we had Mbappe, Messi and Neymar in PSG. Everyone was super sure that's the year PSG would win it. They didn't. Madrid has a good chance but there are more than 5 teams that can give them a run for their money. I can assure you of that.

This was just exactly the same thing Barcelona enjoyed the period of their elite team having the likes of the Mysterio "Lio Messi" the two midfield genius @xavi and iniesta and so many players who were at their prime but the only problem they had was that they didn't actually plan ahead for the future because if they had they would have carefully looked and signed all these players replacement.

Oh the thread is up.
Waiting impatiently to see how it will be the new Champions League.

Reading the new format I already hate it, the only good news is that we can see more games but it will be a shock to everyone who didn't follow the change of rules they did.

Maybe the coach that he is playing under is not being able to utilize him properly. Not everyone is Carlo Ancelotti. We have seen a lot of players not play that good for his national team but play very well for the club. Maybe that is something which is happening with Mbappe. And him not playing well in the euro also does not mean he's not going to play well with Real Madrid.

If we talk about Mbappé, I think he’s not going to have any problems adapting to the Carlo Ancelotti system. He is a good player. Probably the best in the world right now. The only thing that might be a little tricky is that the midfield of Real Madrid is going to change very soon. Kroos has retired and Luka Modrić is also going to retire soon. Maybe Ancelotti will not have the great quality that we have seen recently.

Real Madrid is not only lucky. They're smart. They build from within. They capture these rising stars like Rodrygo, Vinicius Jr., and even Mbappe. These guys are the future.

Its not just about today. Its about tomorrow. Construction of a winning tradition is the goal. You gotta respect that. Now, sure, anything can happen. Injuries, bad calls, you name it. But I know winners when I see them. And Madrid Real? They are mentally strong winners. Not just this year will they rule. Years to come, they will rule.

Adaptation is the main thing we will talk about when a player joins a club and that applies to any player, no matter whether he is a star player or not, but they definitely have to go through the adaptation process.

Mbappe is a player who has very good individual abilities, so that should be able to help him in the adaptation process that he will carry out with his current new club, Real Madrid. I hope that really happens and he can easily adapt to the team as a whole.

One of the attitudes that he must eliminate is the selfish attitude that has been a problem for him. When he was at Paris Saint Germain, he often showed that and to be honest, it really disrupted the team process as a whole. At Real Madrid he must lower his selfish attitude, because if not, it will probably be a big problem for him and even Real Madrid itself. So he has to put his own interests before the interests of the club.