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July 20, 2024, 04:02:16 PM
They need three experienced players to help them realize the club's success and achieve trophies, the players they have are indeed good but lack mentality. There is no need to make major changes because the squad that Arsenal has is already good, they just need to find some experienced players to make their mentality better. Mentality will be formed when they have players who are experienced enough in dealing with pressure.

It will take time for Arsenal to achieve what Man City has achieved and they will get that experience if they are able to maintain consistency in playing. In the Champions League, experience and mentality are very much needed because the competition is much tighter with several representatives from the existing leagues. Arteta must build this squad to be more ready to deal with pressure and they must try to find the right momentum.
Arsenal's style of play is very unified, they have succeeded in carrying out a style of play that is interesting to watch. Yes, you are right, Arsenal strength is very strong and they only need the mentality to become champions. Moreover, the Champions League is certainly very difficult to become champion because you have to compete with teams from other leagues where they are much stronger and have a winning mentality like Real Madrid.

For this reason, Arsenal needs time to become the strongest in the Champions League and succeed in winning the UCL trophy. Arteta only needs support from the players because the existing players are capable enough to carry prestigious titles. Many people think that Arsenal needs a new striker and maybe Arteta has already thought about it.
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July 20, 2024, 03:55:27 PM
I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

Reaching the final will take them a lot of sacrifice in order to get there. Arsenal has the needed squad to go as far as they want in the competition. All they need is that mentality as you’ve said. If they lack that, then they cannot go far in any competition they’ll be participating in. They’ve tried a lot of times in the domestic league to triumph, but I guess their mentality always falls when they’re close to winning it, could be that they are so sure they can win it at that point and then retard their performance. The champions league is a more tougher league than the premier league, in order to reach the final stage there, they need to exert more efforts to finish well in all matches.

Arsenal do not have the squad required for both EPL and UCL. They are competing in both leagues, but they get stuck after a certain point because they don't have enough squad. This shows that Arsenal do not have enough squad. Arsenal are not in a bad situation financially and they can actually add star players to their squad. Arsenal's management is failing every season because they don't have enough squad depth. I think what this team lacks is star players. If the transfer mentality of the management changes then they can achieve success.
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July 20, 2024, 03:50:32 PM
With the level that Arsenal has attained this past couple of seasons, there is no team that they can't face even the current European champions Real Madrid or Bayern Munich,  Looking at the team there has been a better improvement seen in the team than what we saw when Arteta newly took over, And this season, Arsenal may even have a better performance than what they did in just concluded premier league and Champions League seasons.
Arteta has been an amazing coach indeed and js become a historic part of Arsenal, he has been very instrumental in the transformation of Arsenal since ever their legendary boss Wenger left, Arteta has been the only coach who has gotten a good success with Arsenal after the exit of Wenger. The struggle to win the premier League title for Arsenal keeps intensifying by almost every season, I hope they achieve that in the new season ahead. Currently Bayern Munich may not stand before Arsenal with a good level of confidence but they are sure to show some good performances.
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July 20, 2024, 03:32:53 PM

After all, so far under Mikel Arteta's tutelage, Arsenal has focused more on its Domestic League than the Champions League. That doesn't mean they don't want trophies in this competition, but in order to remain consistent on the right track Arsenal chose to focus on their Domestic League competition. Apart from that, the competitors in the Champions League are very diverse with the depth of their respective teams. So, to stay on the right track, that's why Arteta doesn't focus too much on the UCL competition.


I have this feeling that Arsenal as a club have developed this fear against champions league which have made them lose whenever they try to compete for the trophy. Usually, they tend to work hard to get to the qualifiers and to the point of round of 16 then there comes this breeze that blows off their chances to win. If clubs like Dortmund who have taken the trophy in the past will strive their way to take the trophy again thereby getting to the finals, I see no reason why Arsenal cannot get there too. I also don't see this as a Mikel Arteta factor either.
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July 20, 2024, 03:19:17 PM
There is no doubt that Arsenal can face any team in Europe but the problem is not to face but to win. Bayern Munich won them to qualify for the semifinals which showed that even in Bayern weak form, they were still able to win the club in their peak form. Can you see the difference now.

It is not by being in your peak form in domestic league and you feel that you are very strong. UCL is a competition for champions but not everyone that participate in the competition is a champion. Arsenal should stop dreaming and face reality for them to have a winning mentality.
When Arsenal made it to the quarter-finals, statistically Arteta squad was one step ahead from the previous few seasons. We realize that competition in the Champions League is not just about attributes, but reputation and mentality play an equally important role, regardless of a team consistency at domestic level. Luck is also expected, such as joining an easier group, and facing opponents from a balanced path, such as Dortmund journey last season to reach the final. Arsenal is not yet comparable to Bayern Munich in many ways, maybe in the future they can be successful by winning their first Champions League trophy and changing the history of the club.
Arsenal winning the champions league is something almost every good football fan is waiting to witness as it would be one hell of a celebration and with the way there are currently playing one would think that it's possible for them to actually achieve this but in reality it's really hard because their level of focus and stamina in their games of the champions league looks a little bit way off as they continue to struggle to show that finesse that can class them as a champion minded team, I think arteta focus would be more on the premier league as it very close but yet so distant from him.

Exactly, every Arsenal fan expects them to win the Champions League, but it is not an easy task for them to achieve the goals easily. They have many clubs that are better than them for fa now, and they need to work hard before they can challenge them. Arteta needs to buy new players in the team. I didn't mean Arsenal aren't performing well, but they don't have Champions League experience players, and they need to get more talented players in the team that can help them achieve there goals. And I've heard that Arsenal is interested in William Athletic Bilbao, as are Barcelona, and I believe that if Arteta has the opportunity to buy the youngster, he will benefit the team because he is extremely good and talented. Let's see how the next season goes if Arteta can make the supporters proud by winning the Premier League or the Champions League. If he can't help them win any trophies, I'll be delighted if they say they'll fire him and hire a new coach.
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July 20, 2024, 03:17:09 PM
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They need three experienced players to help them realize the club's success and achieve trophies, the players they have are indeed good but lack mentality. There is no need to make major changes because the squad that Arsenal has is already good, they just need to find some experienced players to make their mentality better. Mentality will be formed when they have players who are experienced enough in dealing with pressure.

It will take time for Arsenal to achieve what Man City has achieved and they will get that experience if they are able to maintain consistency in playing. In the Champions League, experience and mentality are very much needed because the competition is much tighter with several representatives from the existing leagues. Arteta must build this squad to be more ready to deal with pressure and they must try to find the right momentum.
Every team definitely needs a process to be able to win something big. Of course, it's not just a process, it also requires a lot of money and hard work to build a quality and competitive team. I admit that in the last few seasons Arsenal have performed well and are ready to challenge any top team, but the problem is that their mentality is still shaky. Arteta needs time and support so that his players' morale does not waver when they are ahead of others, but this is really difficult to resolve.

Arsenal are on track to win prestigious titles including the Champions League, but before that comes, Arsenal must first prove that they are worthy by winning the domestic title. It is important for all players to appear consistent, and Arteta must be able to keep his team stable throughout the season.
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July 20, 2024, 03:13:58 PM
I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

Reaching the final will take them a lot of sacrifice in order to get there. Arsenal has the needed squad to go as far as they want in the competition. All they need is that mentality as you’ve said. If they lack that, then they cannot go far in any competition they’ll be participating in. They’ve tried a lot of times in the domestic league to triumph, but I guess their mentality always falls when they’re close to winning it, could be that they are so sure they can win it at that point and then retard their performance. The champions league is a more tougher league than the premier league, in order to reach the final stage there, they need to exert more efforts to finish well in all matches.
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July 20, 2024, 03:10:11 PM
Fenerbahce seems to be ready for the Lugano match. I think he will progress comfortably in the Champions League until the groups and now, with the addition of En-Nesyri, the offensive line is very strong.  This could be Tadic's season to become the assist king. In the offensive line, we can expect to see plenty of goal-scoring matches with the names he can score goals with.
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July 20, 2024, 02:07:26 PM
We cannot deny because for now even though Arsenal are a very good club but for Champions League matters it is clear that they are just an ordinary club that does not have any advantage in the championship competition but that does not mean they are bad because they are still in the Champions League zone it proves that they deserve to be there but not to be champions because seeing from their golden era even Arsenal always failed and their best achievements were only finals and runners up.

The Champions League is filled with great and great clubs in all the best competitions in Europe and it is very difficult for clubs like Arsenal who do not have any experience in the finals to compete because in the end even though Arsenal are currently a great club but in fact there are clubs that are even greater than them in terms of mentality, experience and club strength.

After all, so far under Mikel Arteta's tutelage, Arsenal has focused more on its Domestic League than the Champions League. That doesn't mean they don't want trophies in this competition, but in order to remain consistent on the right track Arsenal chose to focus on their Domestic League competition. Apart from that, the competitors in the Champions League are very diverse with the depth of their respective teams. So, to stay on the right track, that's why Arteta doesn't focus too much on the UCL competition. Just imagine, just to compete with Manchester City in the Premier League, Arsenal has to use all their abilities and put in a lot of effort. If their focus is divided, then Arsenal will quickly run out of energy. however, if we look at Arsenal in the last two seasons. Arteta has built a fairly solid foundation on his team. he just needs to bring in some newcomers as the team needs, maybe after that Arsenal can become even more competitive. and it is not impossible, if Arsenal is able to win the Premier League trophy, their next target will be the UCL. although, not a very easy task.

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July 20, 2024, 01:59:03 PM
Interesting match ups, I think bodo are also one team who might advance to the next round well atleast they are very active when it comes to their league performance but I can't say the same though since it's an open competition and the teams are not from the same league as they are all striving to qualify but if am to place a bet on Tuesday then I would certainly include bodo in my betslip if not for them to win then it would be to score over 2.5 goals.

Bodo/Glimt are also an interesting team in fact, you have a point. They have done nice things in the Europa League as far as I can remember. Here in the Champions League qualification, they are a big favourite against RFS.

Maybe I would add their win to my parlay also. It is 1.39 for Bodo/Glimt to win. My parlay would like this in that case:

Bodo/Glimt to win: 1.39
Fenerbahçe to win: 1.81
Sparta Praha to win: 1.47

Total odds: 3.70

I decided to remove Dynamo Kyiv win because of not trusting them as much as the others.  Tongue
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July 20, 2024, 01:22:29 PM
I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.
They need three experienced players to help them realize the club's success and achieve trophies, the players they have are indeed good but lack mentality. There is no need to make major changes because the squad that Arsenal has is already good, they just need to find some experienced players to make their mentality better. Mentality will be formed when they have players who are experienced enough in dealing with pressure.

It will take time for Arsenal to achieve what Man City has achieved and they will get that experience if they are able to maintain consistency in playing. In the Champions League, experience and mentality are very much needed because the competition is much tighter with several representatives from the existing leagues. Arteta must build this squad to be more ready to deal with pressure and they must try to find the right momentum.
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July 20, 2024, 12:50:00 PM
Accepted. With Mbappe now in the team, they will be moving like a ghost and no club will be able to stop them from achieving all the trophies next season in any competition that they participate in.

Real Madrid will still win UEFA Champions League next season and I don't see any club that will be their rival. With the signing of Mbappe, I don't see Manchester city as a threat to them anymore.

Real Madrid currently has a fierce or scary team thanks to their attacking options and the midfield options, the defense is definitely not that of a world class team. Their center back options are definitely limited with Rudiger, Eder militao, David Alba and Vallejo bin the only options available. Alaba is currently ruled out for some time now and that leaves them with just three options. Their is a saying by sir Alex Ferguson that attack wins you games and defense wins you tittles and that’s what Madrid is lacking. So saying that no club can defeat them is an exaggeration in my opinion
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July 20, 2024, 12:26:16 PM
There is no doubt that Arsenal can face any team in Europe but the problem is not to face but to win. Bayern Munich won them to qualify for the semifinals which showed that even in Bayern weak form, they were still able to win the club in their peak form. Can you see the difference now.

It is not by being in your peak form in domestic league and you feel that you are very strong. UCL is a competition for champions but not everyone that participate in the competition is a champion. Arsenal should stop dreaming and face reality for them to have a winning mentality.
When Arsenal made it to the quarter-finals, statistically Arteta squad was one step ahead from the previous few seasons. We realize that competition in the Champions League is not just about attributes, but reputation and mentality play an equally important role, regardless of a team consistency at domestic level. Luck is also expected, such as joining an easier group, and facing opponents from a balanced path, such as Dortmund journey last season to reach the final. Arsenal is not yet comparable to Bayern Munich in many ways, maybe in the future they can be successful by winning their first Champions League trophy and changing the history of the club.
Arsenal winning the champions league is something almost every good football fan is waiting to witness as it would be one hell of a celebration and with the way there are currently playing one would think that it's possible for them to actually achieve this but in reality it's really hard because their level of focus and stamina in their games of the champions league looks a little bit way off as they continue to struggle to show that finesse that can class them as a champion minded team, I think arteta focus would be more on the premier league as it very close but yet so distant from him.
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July 20, 2024, 12:26:14 PM
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With the level that Arsenal has attained this past couple of seasons, there is no team that they can't face even the current European champions Real Madrid or Bayern Munich,  Looking at the team there has been a better improvement seen in the team than what we saw when Arteta newly took over, And this season, Arsenal may even have a better performance than what they did in just concluded premier league and Champions League seasons.
Outstanding work by Arteta. He has turned Arsenal around. You notice the difference when facing a powerhouse like Bayern. Its about heart as much as aptitude.  Bayern discovers a means of winning even when they are not doing as best they might. Arsenal performs well; but, they collapse under pressure. Though they can compete with anyone, can they outlive them?

You aim to be Champions League champions? It calls more than simply elegant footwork. You have to be tough. You really have to be merciless. You really must desire it more than the others. Arsenal has to ignite the fire within of their belly. They have to start thinking like winners. If not, they will simply continue to dream about that trophy rather than lifting it.
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July 20, 2024, 12:20:49 PM
It would take a while for me to understand how this new UCL format will play out especially the league phase. I have become very familiar with the old format so much that this new changes seem very strange.
Very strange format indeed, I was very much surprised to find champions league football been played thinking most leagues are on holiday and all that...I wonder what's going on with this competition now Roll Eyes

As we speak am just using YouTube to try understand the new format and catch on...hope our favourite big teams are seeded to avoid going through the whole process


The joy will be massive as there are a whole lots of young talents to watch;
N. Williams
Yamal aka School boy
Mbappe
Musiala
Vini
Etc
Unlike the Euro's where the big names failed to make names for themselves, the UEFA platform is a whole different animal and I have no doubt that these boys will bring their A game as their fan base here is much larger Cool

Looking at some of these names, Madrid looks scary this season 🥶
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July 20, 2024, 12:09:06 PM
There is no doubt that Arsenal can face any team in Europe but the problem is not to face but to win. Bayern Munich won them to qualify for the semifinals which showed that even in Bayern weak form, they were still able to win the club in their peak form. Can you see the difference now.

It is not by being in your peak form in domestic league and you feel that you are very strong. UCL is a competition for champions but not everyone that participate in the competition is a champion. Arsenal should stop dreaming and face reality for them to have a winning mentality.
When Arsenal made it to the quarter-finals, statistically Arteta squad was one step ahead from the previous few seasons. We realize that competition in the Champions League is not just about attributes, but reputation and mentality play an equally important role, regardless of a team consistency at domestic level. Luck is also expected, such as joining an easier group, and facing opponents from a balanced path, such as Dortmund journey last season to reach the final. Arsenal is not yet comparable to Bayern Munich in many ways, maybe in the future they can be successful by winning their first Champions League trophy and changing the history of the club.
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July 20, 2024, 11:55:09 AM
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Arsenal are very good no doubt, but I don't think they can cope with the pressure that the European champions league brings, although when you look at their stand at the premier league level they are actually very good but at the European level they have always been trying really hard to meet as even the likes of an average team like sporting Lisbon and benfica of the Portuguese league can knocked them out.
The Champions League is never the same as the domestic league, so of course the pressure and atmosphere are different.
The teams that compete in the group stage are the best teams representing their respective countries' domestic leagues, so it is only natural that they play with great enthusiasm to beat each other even though their club ratings are not as high as the ratings of top teams like Arsenal.

Besides, Arsenal so far has been better than Arsenal in the last few seasons, I mean the performance of the players has been very good and Arteta has made his team look stronger. Arsenal just need a stronger mentality to compete in a competition as big as the Champions League, but their success in winning the title really depends on their performance.
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July 20, 2024, 11:45:54 AM
Next season will be hugely surround with prizes,we have a lot going through our minds. The stronger club win the UCL trophy with ease, and I'm counting on my favorite club to proclaimed the status club with ease. The new UEFA Champions League format seems interesting but it's definitely going to  e unwelcome in the current season, atleast most people are yet to acknowledge this format and put it into use.  
Believe me, there are not a few strong clubs in the Champions League because those who participate here are selected clubs from other leagues who have strong performance so it is not easy for any club to face each other even if it is Real Madrid because we cannot predict what will happen next season .
At first I didn't understand why the Champions League changed their format, but after I thought about it, it seemed like this was done so that the competition would become fiercer and there would be more matches like the domestic league, even though I actually don't know how the matches will go.

The failed in the UCL last season, and it's proven they were not deserving to go further in UCL. But Arsenal almost beat Munich. I would not say Arsenal played badly in that game. They must be coming back stronger than last season. Last season, they failed against Bayern Munich, but i hope they will able to beat any big teams in UCL.
All in all, strengthening their mentality is the biggest improvement to be done by arsenal.
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What makes you say Arsenal doesn't deserve to go further in the UCL? every club deserves the best, not just the clubs that always dominate. Arsenal are the top clubs in the Premier League, their performance can be said to be almost on pair with Manchester City. If Man City can beat Bayern Munich and Real Madrid, then Arsenal can too. This depends on strength they face clubs from other leagues.

With the level that Arsenal has attained this past couple of seasons, there is no team that they can't face even the current European champions Real Madrid or Bayern Munich,  Looking at the team there has been a better improvement seen in the team than what we saw when Arteta newly took over, And this season, Arsenal may even have a better performance than what they did in just concluded premier league and Champions League seasons.
Arsenal are very good no doubt, but I don't think they can cope with the pressure that the European champions league brings, although when you look at their stand at the premier league level they are actually very good but at the European level they have always been trying really hard to meet as even the likes of an average team like sporting Lisbon and benfica of the Portuguese league can knocked them out.
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July 20, 2024, 11:42:08 AM
With the new purchase of Riccardo Calafiori for 50 million, in my opinion Arsenal has put another important piece in making an excellent path at European level with other players. To think that Calafiori belonged to Roma and was sold by Bologna for all that money makes me happy. It gives you shivers but football is like that

Apparently, Riccardo Calafiori also did not play for AS Roma because after all, AS Roma also loaned Riccardo Calafiori to Genoa and after Riccardo Calafiori returned to AS Roma, in fact AS Roma sold Riccardo Calafiori to FC Basel and then to Bologna. And at Bologna Riccardo Calafiori experienced a very high  increase, but perhaps also because of Bologna's success last season which managed to finish in the top five in the Serie A standings. But indeed, because considering also about Riccardo Calafiori's age which is still 22 years old, then it will be a deal for the long term for Riccardo Calafiori to play at Arsenal.

Arsenal's success in getting Riccardo Calafiori will certainly make Arsenal's defense stronger because after all, last season in the Premier League that Arsenal became the team that conceded the least. But, at this moment Arsenal are still bringing in new players for the position of their defense and  thus, it will make Arsenal remain strong despite rotating players for big matches in the Premier League and also in the Champions League next season.
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July 20, 2024, 11:24:50 AM
With the new purchase of Riccardo Calafiori for 50 million, in my opinion Arsenal has put another important piece in making an excellent path at European level with other players. To think that Calafiori belonged to Roma and was sold by Bologna for all that money makes me happy. It gives you shivers but football is like that
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