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July 20, 2024, 10:19:48 AM
With the level that Arsenal has attained this past couple of seasons, there is no team that they can't face even the current European champions Real Madrid or Bayern Munich,  Looking at the team there has been a better improvement seen in the team than what we saw when Arteta newly took over, And this season, Arsenal may even have a better performance than what they did in just concluded premier league and Champions League seasons.
Arteta has done an excellent job since taking charge of Arsenal, he has managed to make Arsenal look better than before. Arsenal's squad is also very good, even though their average age is still young, they are able to make Arsenal always a regular team that appears in the Champions League. Arsenal's current weakness is not due to the coach's inability to handle the team, but because they do not yet have a winning mentality.
Arsenal still feels unable to compete when facing big teams, the players' mentality must be improved so that they are better prepared when playing in big matches. Arsenal must be more aggressive in improving the quality of their squad so that they are better prepared to face competition in the UCL. If there are several top players with various achievements, Arsenal might be able to appear in the final and win the UCL title.

It seems that we cannot expect too much from Arsenal in the Champions League although Arsenal have experienced a significant improvement in their current form, in the English league Arsenal only face Manchester City as their strongest competitor at the moment but Arsenal is still far behind Manchester City and made them fail to win the championship trophy, when competing with Manchester City alone they still fail then what can we expect from Arsenal when they Have to face many strong teams in the Champions League so far?
Last season Arsenal was able to perform well in the domestic league so many of us here who favour Arsenal could penetrate the semi-finals, but in fact Arsenal got a defeat to Munich which even in very bad conditions last season, Arsenal champion mentality is one of the problems that should be immediately fixed by Arteta to be able to compete next season both in the league and the Champions League.
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July 20, 2024, 09:51:05 AM
With the level that Arsenal has attained this past couple of seasons, there is no team that they can't face even the current European champions Real Madrid or Bayern Munich,  Looking at the team there has been a better improvement seen in the team than what we saw when Arteta newly took over, And this season, Arsenal may even have a better performance than what they did in just concluded premier league and Champions League seasons.
Arteta has done an excellent job since taking charge of Arsenal, he has managed to make Arsenal look better than before. Arsenal's squad is also very good, even though their average age is still young, they are able to make Arsenal always a regular team that appears in the Champions League. Arsenal's current weakness is not due to the coach's inability to handle the team, but because they do not yet have a winning mentality.
Arsenal still feels unable to compete when facing big teams, the players' mentality must be improved so that they are better prepared when playing in big matches. Arsenal must be more aggressive in improving the quality of their squad so that they are better prepared to face competition in the UCL. If there are several top players with various achievements, Arsenal might be able to appear in the final and win the UCL title.
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July 20, 2024, 09:32:12 AM
Next season will be hugely surround with prizes,we have a lot going through our minds. The stronger club win the UCL trophy with ease, and I'm counting on my favorite club to proclaimed the status club with ease. The new UEFA Champions League format seems interesting but it's definitely going to  e unwelcome in the current season, atleast most people are yet to acknowledge this format and put it into use.  
Believe me, there are not a few strong clubs in the Champions League because those who participate here are selected clubs from other leagues who have strong performance so it is not easy for any club to face each other even if it is Real Madrid because we cannot predict what will happen next season .
At first I didn't understand why the Champions League changed their format, but after I thought about it, it seemed like this was done so that the competition would become fiercer and there would be more matches like the domestic league, even though I actually don't know how the matches will go.

The failed in the UCL last season, and it's proven they were not deserving to go further in UCL. But Arsenal almost beat Munich. I would not say Arsenal played badly in that game. They must be coming back stronger than last season. Last season, they failed against Bayern Munich, but i hope they will able to beat any big teams in UCL.
All in all, strengthening their mentality is the biggest improvement to be done by arsenal.
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What makes you say Arsenal doesn't deserve to go further in the UCL? every club deserves the best, not just the clubs that always dominate. Arsenal are the top clubs in the Premier League, their performance can be said to be almost on pair with Manchester City. If Man City can beat Bayern Munich and Real Madrid, then Arsenal can too. This depends on strength they face clubs from other leagues.

With the level that Arsenal has attained this past couple of seasons, there is no team that they can't face even the current European champions Real Madrid or Bayern Munich,  Looking at the team there has been a better improvement seen in the team than what we saw when Arteta newly took over, And this season, Arsenal may even have a better performance than what they did in just concluded premier league and Champions League seasons.
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July 20, 2024, 09:27:26 AM
I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

Arsenal are not missing out on anything not to be a major contender of the champions league just like Manchester City and Real Madrid have been over the years now. Arsenal are a great team and they have all it takes to win any trophy now. Just like you’ve mentioned, they just lack that winning mentality and that is what have caused them to not have win any trophy for themself till date despite the great performance they pull up every season. If they can have that winning mentality and their mind set at making sure that they get what they want by all means, they can win a trophy in the next season. I have so much believe in them but they always disappointed towards the end of the season.
We cannot deny because for now even though Arsenal are a very good club but for Champions League matters it is clear that they are just an ordinary club that does not have any advantage in the championship competition but that does not mean they are bad because they are still in the Champions League zone it proves that they deserve to be there but not to be champions because seeing from their golden era even Arsenal always failed and their best achievements were only finals and runners up.

The Champions League is filled with great and great clubs in all the best competitions in Europe and it is very difficult for clubs like Arsenal who do not have any experience in the finals to compete because in the end even though Arsenal are currently a great club but in fact there are clubs that are even greater than them in terms of mentality, experience and club strength.
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July 20, 2024, 09:14:27 AM
The joy will be massive as there are a whole lots of young talents to watch;
N. Williams
Yamal aka School boy
Mbappe
Musiala
Vini
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They are young players but already made their names recent seasons, Mbappe, Musiala, Vinicius are big star players in their clubs for many recent years. Two youngest star players are Musiala and Yamal but only Yamal had less solid position than Musiala in their clubs.

Yamal with his performances for Spain in Euro 2024 will have better position and more important roles in Barcelona next season. The challenge for both Yamal and Barcelona is how to play with proper intensity, total matches in a season, to avoid serious injuries. He is very young and talented but he needs to be used properly and need to have good care from the coach and club.

Overuse Yamal can put his career in danger and even can destroy his career after next one, two or three more seasons. Protecting a talented player like Yamal is important and Barcelona has a lively lesson, Pedri.
What an intelligent thought by you Oc Tradism. I had once asked myself how that young guy would be able to last very long in the industry considering that he came too early. Coming at 16 is very early and if Yamal is well mentored and protected as you said, he could live upto the standard of Ronaldo and Messi.

In the other hand, I don't know if playing plenty of matches will do more harm than good for the young boy or the reverse. He recently turned 17, so we shouldn't expect to see him injured frequently and even if he is injured, the healing will be super fast. So, he should give his best now he has the energy and fame, tomorrow cannot be rightly predicted.
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July 20, 2024, 03:00:22 AM
The joy will be massive as there are a whole lots of young talents to watch;
N. Williams
Yamal aka School boy
Mbappe
Musiala
Vini
Etc
They are young players but already made their names recent seasons, Mbappe, Musiala, Vinicius are big star players in their clubs for many recent years. Two youngest star players are Musiala and Yamal but only Yamal had less solid position than Musiala in their clubs.

Yamal with his performances for Spain in Euro 2024 will have better position and more important roles in Barcelona next season. The challenge for both Yamal and Barcelona is how to play with proper intensity, total matches in a season, to avoid serious injuries. He is very young and talented but he needs to be used properly and need to have good care from the coach and club.

Overuse Yamal can put his career in danger and even can destroy his career after next one, two or three more seasons. Protecting a talented player like Yamal is important and Barcelona has a lively lesson, Pedri.
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July 20, 2024, 02:08:07 AM
It would take a while for me to understand how this new UCL format will play out especially the league phase. I have become very familiar with the old format so much that this new changes seem very strange. What qualification rounds are being played right now? Because I thought all teams for 4 pots have been seeded already. With all these changes, are you all still big on Madrid winning the UCL? I strongly doubt so because the new changes will make it a lot tougher even for the strongest teams in the competition.
Next season will be hugely surround with prizes,we have a lot going through our minds. The stronger club win the UCL trophy with ease, and I'm counting on my favorite club to proclaimed the status club with ease. The new UEFA Champions League format seems interesting but it's definitely going to  e unwelcome in the current season, atleast most people are yet to acknowledge this format and put it into use. 
There are quite significant differences from this new Champions League format, usually we see from the group phase which is filled with 4 teams per group and the top 2 positions will qualify for the knock out phase, the 3rd position will be in the European League play offs while the last position must be removed. This season we will see a new format, namely the league format from the start, the top 8 positions will go straight to the next round while the 9th to 24th positions will undergo a play off round, most likely they will enter the last 16 round later with a knockout system, after The format will be the same as the old format.
This is clearly confusing for some people, because some people will definitely think this is really like the league we usually see in the domestic league. However, there is a difference in that they will only play 8 matches, 4 matches will take place at home and the other 4 matches will be played away.
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July 19, 2024, 10:09:47 PM
Next season will be hugely surround with prizes,we have a lot going through our minds. The stronger club win the UCL trophy with ease, and I'm counting on my favorite club to proclaimed the status club with ease. The new UEFA Champions League format seems interesting but it's definitely going to  e unwelcome in the current season, atleast most people are yet to acknowledge this format and put it into use. 
Believe me, there are not a few strong clubs in the Champions League because those who participate here are selected clubs from other leagues who have strong performance so it is not easy for any club to face each other even if it is Real Madrid because we cannot predict what will happen next season .
At first I didn't understand why the Champions League changed their format, but after I thought about it, it seemed like this was done so that the competition would become fiercer and there would be more matches like the domestic league, even though I actually don't know how the matches will go.

The failed in the UCL last season, and it's proven they were not deserving to go further in UCL. But Arsenal almost beat Munich. I would not say Arsenal played badly in that game. They must be coming back stronger than last season. Last season, they failed against Bayern Munich, but i hope they will able to beat any big teams in UCL.
All in all, strengthening their mentality is the biggest improvement to be done by arsenal.
What makes you say Arsenal doesn't deserve to go further in the UCL? every club deserves the best, not just the clubs that always dominate. Arsenal are the top clubs in the Premier League, their performance can be said to be almost on par with Manchester City. If Man City can beat Bayern Munich and Real Madrid, then Arsenal can too. This depends on strength they face clubs from other leagues.
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July 19, 2024, 09:39:15 PM
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Arsenal are not missing out on anything not to be a major contender of the champions league just like Manchester City and Real Madrid have been over the years now. Arsenal are a great team and they have all it takes to win any trophy now. Just like you’ve mentioned, they just lack that winning mentality and that is what have caused them to not have win any trophy for themself till date despite the great performance they pull up every season. If they can have that winning mentality and their mind set at making sure that they get what they want by all means, they can win a trophy in the next season. I have so much believe in them but they always disappointed towards the end of the season.
I admit that Arsenal is one of the great teams in the EPL, but when they set foot in the Champions League, Arsenal always failed to maintain their best performance, especially when facing other strong teams, they always had difficulty winning. Arsenal is a regular team in the Champions League almost every season, but their progress always stops halfway due to being unable to compete with other strong teams.

The mentality of the players has been the main obstacle for Arsenal, which has always reaped failures so far, this situation needs to be corrected to increase the enthusiasm of the players so they have a winning mentality. In my opinion, if Arsenal wants to start winning the Champions League, they must first focus on winning the EPL, the enthusiasm that the players have after successfully winning the EPL trophy can be continued to win the Champions League trophy. So far, I have never ranked Arsenal as one of the favorite teams to win the UCL trophy because the players don't have a winning mentality.
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July 19, 2024, 07:17:02 PM
It would take a while for me to understand how this new UCL format will play out especially the league phase. I have become very familiar with the old format so much that this new changes seem very strange. What qualification rounds are being played right now? Because I thought all teams for 4 pots have been seeded already. With all these changes, are you all still big on Madrid winning the UCL? I strongly doubt so because the new changes will make it a lot tougher even for the strongest teams in the competition.
Next season will be hugely surround with prizes,we have a lot going through our minds. The stronger club win the UCL trophy with ease, and I'm counting on my favorite club to proclaimed the status club with ease. The new UEFA Champions League format seems interesting but it's definitely going to  e unwelcome in the current season, atleast most people are yet to acknowledge this format and put it into use. 
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July 19, 2024, 06:37:44 PM
We are moving on from where we left in the Champions League qualification round... Next games are starting in 4 days.



I think Dynamo Kyiv, Fenerbahçe, Sparta Praha all will advance to next round. Only these three teams' matchups are attracting my attention for now honestly. But I hope we see some good action in the other ones too.

The odds are still not determined yet as far as I can see. If I get some good total odds from these choices I'm thinking of making a parlay with them. But betting on all of their win at the same time might be more risky so I'll think about it.  Sad
Interesting match ups, I think bodo are also one team who might advance to the next round well atleast they are very active when it comes to their league performance but I can't say the same though since it's an open competition and the teams are not from the same league as they are all striving to qualify but if am to place a bet on Tuesday then I would certainly include bodo in my betslip if not for them to win then it would be to score over 2.5 goals.
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July 19, 2024, 06:30:59 PM
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As I already said, the next season will be decisive - if Arsenal does not take the title, then progress will be replaced by regression.
Arsenal must be able to win the title next season. They already have a solid squad and they have been runners-up twice in the EPL. I'm not saying Arsenal should be EPL champions because that's quite difficult. But at least Arsenal can get one trophy this season. The Arsenal squad is currently in their best performance. I think if they fail to get the trophy again this will affect the players' confidence.
Arsenal must at least deliver the same performance like last season. Arsenal performing quite well last season, but due to the small mistakes, and it cost them trophy. I was very disappointed how Arsenal lost the important games twice in a row last seasons. But, it must be a very important lesson for them.
I must admit, Arteta has been transforming this club well. But, as you can see, their mentality was the main issue.

Arsenal have failed to get the trophy two times. It was because Manchester City backstabbed Arsenal at the end of the season. I think player confidence will stay the same. But, failing three times in a row will frustrate them. It's possible for Kroenke, Arsenal's owner, to sack Arteta from the club.



The previous season, Arsenal managed to advance to the quarter-finals before finally being defeated by Munich. I think it's already a good result but they deserve to go further in the UCL.
The failed in the UCL last season, and it's proven they were not deserving to go further in UCL. But Arsenal almost beat Munich. I would not say Arsenal played badly in that game. They must be coming back stronger than last season. Last season, they failed against Bayern Munich, but i hope they will able to beat any big teams in UCL.
All in all, strengthening their mentality is the biggest improvement to be done by arsenal.
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July 19, 2024, 06:27:52 PM
It would take a while for me to understand how this new UCL format will play out especially the league phase. I have become very familiar with the old format so much that this new changes seem very strange. What qualification rounds are being played right now? Because I thought all teams for 4 pots have been seeded already. With all these changes, are you all still big on Madrid winning the UCL? I strongly doubt so because the new changes will make it a lot tougher even for the strongest teams in the competition.
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I have already forgotten about the UCL new format. Oh! No I will have to use the internet to remember how this was proposed to be played. I think like a league. However it might be, I believe this will not remove the vibe in the champions league. The joy will be massive as there are a whole lots of young talents to watch;
N. Williams
Yamal aka School boy
Mbappe
Musiala
Vini
Etc

Great point. But aside from the talents we'd get to see, I think there's more. The UCL explainer I saw said something about top teams might get matched up together right from day 1 of the tournament from any of the 4 seeded pots. If there's a league phase already planned out, I only just learn about these qualification rounds that everyone is currently talking about on the thread. Really looking forward to see how this UCL will be if it would be better than the ones I have come to love.
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July 19, 2024, 05:31:41 PM
It would take a while for me to understand how this new UCL format will play out especially the league phase. I have become very familiar with the old format so much that this new changes seem very strange. What qualification rounds are being played right now? Because I thought all teams for 4 pots have been seeded already. With all these changes, are you all still big on Madrid winning the UCL? I strongly doubt so because the new changes will make it a lot tougher even for the strongest teams in the competition.
Oops!
I have already forgotten about the UCL new format. Oh! No I will have to use the internet to remember how this was proposed to be played. I think like a league. However it might be, I believe this will not remove the vibe in the champions league. The joy will be massive as there are a whole lots of young talents to watch;
N. Williams
Yamal aka School boy
Mbappe
Musiala
Vini
Etc
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It would take a while for me to understand how this new UCL format will play out especially the league phase. I have become very familiar with the old format so much that this new changes seem very strange. What qualification rounds are being played right now? Because I thought all teams for 4 pots have been seeded already. With all these changes, are you all still big on Madrid winning the UCL? I strongly doubt so because the new changes will make it a lot tougher even for the strongest teams in the competition.
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This competition, the Champions League, is very tough, teams who thought they were strong were unable to survive the season and the cup.
Only teams that have an excellent turnover and a well-designed and organized team can manage to make a difference, in my opinion.  Then maybe I'm wrong.
The Champions League will be filled with great teams from the best competition in the European, so that without an improvement in the squad it is impossible for a team to be able to compete to win the Champions League including Arsenal, Arsenal in recent seasons have shown significant improvement in the English league but in the Champions League we have not seen much change in their mentality the previous season,  I am personally very impressed with Arsenal ability last season by being a title contender in the Premier League but for the Champions League it seems that they are still not strong enough to compete even in next season, next season the Champions League will use a new format in their competition and there will be tighter competition due to the addition of participant slots, so for Arsenal to be able to beyond their journey in last season will be impossible to happen in the league champions next season.
With the implementation of the new format, the overall competition has become tougher due to the increase in contestants, however, Arsenal still has the opportunity to go further, like other favorite clubs. Last season, Arsenal stopped in the quarter finals and had to admit the greatness of Bayern Munchen, who knows, next season Arsenal could reach the semifinals or even become one of the Champions League finalists. Arteta has all the attributes needed to make it happen, and it must be admitted that the journey to becoming champion is very steep.

If Arsenal is able to maintain its stable performance, it is very likely that they can become one of the champions in the future. Of course Arsenal must conquer the Premier League first, as valuable capital to become the best in the Champions League. For now, Madrid, Man City and Bayern Munchen will still be many people favorite choices, and Arsenal will certainly find it very difficult to compete with these three clubs. We'll see how Arteta manages his team next season, I think Arsenal could be one of the dark horses.
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July 19, 2024, 04:16:06 PM
I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.
We Arsenal actually need to sign more players to become Champions because lack of good and reliable striker affected our performance last season which caused us the League and any other trophies we played.

You can also see how lack of experience affected us in the quarter finals against Bayern Munich and lack of a good finisher to convert some chances for the team; although the players tried very well throughout the last two seasons but going trophyless is not proper for Arsenal again next season which is some players need to be signed to make the team more stronger.

A striker, a support for Bulayo Saka, and a replacement to Odegard as the case maybe so that the team will be completely relied on by the fans and injuries will not affect our performance.
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July 19, 2024, 04:11:52 PM
Arsenal are not missing out on anything not to be a major contender of the champions league just like Manchester City and Real Madrid have been over the years now. Arsenal are a great team and they have all it takes to win any trophy now. Just like you’ve mentioned, they just lack that winning mentality and that is what have caused them to not have win any trophy for themself till date despite the great performance they pull up every season. If they can have that winning mentality and their mind set at making sure that they get what they want by all means, they can win a trophy in the next season. I have so much believe in them but they always disappointed towards the end of the season.

I think this is the only fact I have seen about Arsenal so far. They are really good and the squad is very strong, but I think the luck to win is not always by their side, and also, at the end of any season, they get slack; they don’t perform as they start the season; if not, Arsenal always starts all the seasons with great performances that no team can come near them that will give them any pressure by any side, but they always get problems when the season comes to an end. If not, if we are to talk about squads, the Arsenal squad is full and can win any trophies, but luck is not by their side, so I think they need to work harder to get things done for themselves because I believe they can do it.
This fact cannot be denied, it must be admitted that Arsenal in recent years has had a good and strong squad, but their only weakness lies in not having a strong mentality when facing a lot of pressure. In the domestic league, for example, Arsenal has almost won the EPL twice because they started the season well, but when the season started to end, the mentality of the Arsenal players started to waver. A similar thing also happened in the UCL league last season, even though last season Bayern Munich was not as strong as before because last season Bayern Munich went through a bad season but they were unable to beat Bayern Munich. This is all because they lost mentally to Bayern Munich even though at that time Arsenal's game was better than Bayern Munich's game.

Luck is indeed one of the factors, but luck also happens because you have a high mentality and fighting spirit. So Arteta should prioritize this problem as the main problem that must be overcome, namely the mentality of players and players not giving up easily. because Arsenal's strategy and game have been quite good in the last two years.
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July 19, 2024, 04:08:06 PM
I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

Arsenal are not missing out on anything not to be a major contender of the champions league just like Manchester City and Real Madrid have been over the years now. Arsenal are a great team and they have all it takes to win any trophy now. Just like you’ve mentioned, they just lack that winning mentality and that is what have caused them to not have win any trophy for themself till date despite the great performance they pull up every season. If they can have that winning mentality and their mind set at making sure that they get what they want by all means, they can win a trophy in the next season. I have so much believe in them but they always disappointed towards the end of the season.

What do you mean always? How did they disappoint last season when they struggled all the way up the league? And it wasn't just Arsenal who made mistakes, but Liverpool and also Manchester City, who went on to win the league. During the season it is very difficult not to make any mistakes, especially when you have to play not only in your league, but also in the Champions League, which has a completely different style of play and mentality, including the domestic cup, it's not easy. I was surprised that they lost to Bayern with such a minimal score, because the tension during the season for Arsenal was such that they could have easily conceded more in this match, but no, they stood up honourably
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July 19, 2024, 04:00:27 PM
the next cup will definitely be strange with the change they made in the group stage with the two big groups.

probably in this way there will also be fewer twists and turns as with a bigger number of games the variance decreases and the strongest teams should score more points, which is why in national championships the strongest almost always wins.

with the new cup the level of the Europa League drops considerably.
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