Topic: UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season - page 591. (Read 89341 times)

This mostly happen in every season teams try to bring youngsters for having better results and strength of their squads which works for few teams, and they are able to have success for going through as well in coming season while we will have different format this all could be interesting how things will be work and which team will be able to have success.

Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund which were already strong now bringing changes which will give them better strength even this all is not guaranteed of success, but they are doing this for staying at the top level.
As procedure are going we will have few teams as favourite because this is culture of the Champions League for bookies with we all know changes are on cards, and we are also having surprises which give upsets and teams which are not in lineup for having better results can go through.

Indeed, in my view also that Arsenal have a chance to be able to go further in the Champions League, but I believe Arsenal do not make the Champions League the main priority. But even so, of  course Arsenal will make their best efforts also in the Champion League, and it was also proven in the last season Arsenal managed to qualify for the quarter-finals. Although last season Arsenal lost by Bayern Munich but still, Arsenal have a good effort. Because Arsenal are also not easy to beat by Bayern Munich because after all, their aggregate is also only 3-2 and thus, surely Arsenal have managed to improve their performance in this Arteta era.

So yes, because Arsenal may also be quite satisfied with the efforts that Arteta has made,so Arsenal also still retain Arteta. Therefore, I also believe Arsenal will still have a goodperformance next  season and of  course, and we have high hopes for Arsenal to be able to get the trophy, because they have made their best efforts so far. But it's not about the Champions League trophy, but other trophies that Arsenal still might be get,  such as the Premier League trophy or maybe the FA Cup trophy.

Arsenal did not have the capability to win the Champions League now, they have good squad but I don’t think they can compete with the likes of Madrid and Manchester City in the Champions League because we have seen how they ended last season despite their performance in the Premier League, they couldn’t defeat Bayern Munich in the Quarterfinals which means they still need more quality and experience players to be able to win the Champions League. They can try again next season, but if they didn’t sign striker, they can’t make it because strikers win you trophies.

What happened when Tottenham focused on one cup last year? Nowhere. Arsenal has a chance. Premier League, Champions League in two shots. Its mental, not simply talent. Arsenal plays wonderfully occasionally, then chokes. Thats their heads, not coaching. They fear. They doubt their chances. City? When they smell blood, they strike. Not afraid of anyone. They hope to win. The difference.

A mental shift is needed at Arsenal. Every game requires self-confidence. They require a killing instinct. As in life. Why should others believe in you if not you? Arsenal needs to win, not simply compete. Its possible. The talent exists. But they require inner strength and a winning mindset. They'll only beat City this way. They'll only win those cups this way.

Considering how impressive Arsenal have been in the last two seasons especially in the English Premier League, I think it'll be absolutely disrespectful for anyone to ignore or underestimate them and how far they can go in the UEFA Champions League competition come next season but like you rightly said, Arsenal's probability of winning the European Cup next season isn't as high as other clubs like Real Madrid, Manchester City, Bayern Munich or even Inter Milan. The Gunners despite their impressive form in the English Premier League in recent seasons haven't been able to reach the semi finals of the Champions League for over 10 a decade now.
However, despite not reaching the last four in over the last 10 years, I strongly believe that the current Arsenal team if they continue with their recent impressive performances can make it to the final. All they need at the moment is to believe in themselves that they can do it and I see them going far in the competition.

Based from what we have seen regarding their performance, Arsenal is not yet ready to beat the teams in the Champions League. But of course, the chance of going into this League is always there. We may not know their actual capabilities up until they show it game after game. For now, Premier League is more possible to win for this team and they can have very good standing on this League as compared to the Champions League.
I believe, it is how they are being prepared to embark a journey and getting the trophy from Champions League is still slippery from this team. The time like in 2006 will again come for this team. Young bloods and new coaches may be needed to achieve once more getting in the finals of CL.

I will not ignore Arsenal's potential in the Champions League next season, it's just that you have to admit that Arsenal's probability is no better than Real Madrid, Manchester City, Bayern Munich and several other top teams. Arsenal don't have a strong mentality when competing in the European arena like the Champions League, so I don't expect them to jump too high next season.

It's up to you how you convince yourself about Arsenal in the Champions League, I don't think Arsenal is mature enough to win it. On the other hand, I think Manchester City will be enthusiastic again next season in the race for the Champions League title besides Real Madrid, so I will put Arsenal in 5th or 6th position on the favorites list.

and in fact, Real Madrid didn't just get Mbappe as their new player. As you said, if other clubs also bring in lots of professional football players, then Real Madrid too, Mbappe, is one of the football stars. And for the front and middle lines, they are all complete, in fact they will definitely be stronger than last season. And for now, their focus is on getting their defender players, especially the center-back and right back positions. And the latest rumors, if they succeed in getting one of Arsenal's main center backs, Williams Saliba, then it will be very good again, his performance at Arsenal, don't ask again, he will work very optimally at Real Madrid too, of course. Real Madrid doesn't often make purchases that are quite forceful, because currently they are looking for more effective purchases to focus on the lineup they are currently improving.

So, this will be an even tougher challenge this season for other clubs. And even if the other top clubs also get stronger, this will be a very good season, because the competition will become much tighter and more competitive, right? so this will be much more interesting to watch, debate and bet on. 
I'm really waiting for this surely.

Moreover, the number of clubs entering the UCL this season is greater than last season, with a quite different format. This will definitely provide an opportunity for each club to do their best. Moreover, they will no longer have the opportunity to enter the UEFA Europa League if they fail in the UCL this season like in previous seasons.

Source: New format for Champions League post-2024

I don't know why you just concluded that Arsenal can't win the Champions League next season. I can also say Arsenal can win the Champions League next season. But if we were to mention the five teams that are favorites to win next season’s Champions League, I believe that Arsenal will be included in the list with their current performance. Arsenal is not a weak team that we can just conclude now that they can't achieve such a trophy. With the way Arsenal is beating their opponents currently, it is very possible they could fight for the Champions League next season.

As the domestic league and Champions League have not started, we can't easily predict Arsenal's performance in the Champions League next season. The truth behind football is that anything can happen. How many of us thought that Dortmund would reach the final last season? The reason when Chelsea won their last Champions League, how many people thought Chelsea could win the Champions League that season? Chelsea's performance was not that great like Real Madrid, Manchester City, Bayern Munich, and Barcelona that season. I am not saying that Arsenal will be the winner of next season’s Champions League, but the truth is Arsenal is among the favorite teams to win it next season.

Even if Mbappe moved to Dortmund, it would not be a big threat for Real (at least in a two-game confrontation).
As for the next title, even if we assume that Real are significantly stronger than everyone else and are ranked as 1.3 in every match, then the probability of the title will be 1.3⁴ = 2.85 = 35% This is very far from guaranteeing a title even taking into account our bold assumptions.

Last season Arsenal managed to record impressive statistics by reaching the quarter-finals, in previous seasons they were only able to reach the last 16. Unfortunately, their steps were too difficult because they had to face Bayern Munich, which has a better reputation and mentality in the Champions League. Arteta certainly realizes that competing in European competition is much more difficult than the Premier League, and extra preparation is needed to become the best team in Europe. In my opinion, Arsenal are currently just unlucky, they have made their best efforts to achieve the target, the depth of the squad that Arteta has built is also no less good than Manchester City. Maybe Arsenal success is only a matter of time, so they can change history by winning their first trophy.

Manchester City and other elite clubs have been amazing and promising in the UEFA Champions League, just a better call for the big winning. Arsenal have everything, the one thing that keeps them up is hope and determination. Mikel Arteta have packed his best strategies infront and there's certainly going to be evidence for the team, it may not be now but in the nearest future, there's certainly full hope and success is ahead.

Arsenal has almost reached the highest level since being handled by Arteta, but their inconsistency towards the end of the season means they always fail to achieve success. Several players need to be brought in to increase their strength, last season Arsenal's front line had a bit of a problem because they had difficulty scoring goals in several matches. Arsenal must appear more consistent to compete in the UCL, they must close all gaps and help each other to achieve victory.

The strength in the defense line needs to be increased so that they don't concede goals easily, Arteta needs to choose players who are able to maintain their best performance to make it difficult for opposing players to penetrate Arsenal defense. Arsenal will be a dark horse team that is ready to surprise, last season Dortmund managed to surprise everyone with its impressive performance, maybe this season Arsenal will start something new that can increase the players' confidence.

Even if Arsenal focused only on the Champions league I doubt if they can actually win it, Arsenal are strong team currently but in the UEFA they are still behind especially in mentality compared to big  teams. Barcelona even sadly failed in this last season when they shifted their focused to the champions league since it was clear to them they didn`t have much hope for their domestic league, mentality has a huge role to play here.
Also I don`t think Arsenal squad really lacks experience or trophy mentality since many of them have won top trophies from their previous clubs rather the entire team lack mentality for consistency when it`s obvious that they have everything to function well.

A lot of teams are adapting with new players to try to unite the team with a short time to get points early in the domestic league and all teams that pass to the UCL will definitely also pursue their plans to quickly get contributions from new players and create a high stability to be able to success in every UCL game. Most football fans would make Madrid a favorite to win the title again and I as a Madrid fan would say the same but a lot of things to consider.

I mean, although the arrival of Mbappe gives extra strength to the line of attack but we don't know what other teams are going to do that are currently still looking for professional players to be added to the line up. But we also have to look at Dortmund, which is now bringing Guirassy, which could be a threat to Madrid.

Arsenal should be able to compete in the two competitions and they can't choose one of the two competitions for them to focus on because after all they are very prestigious competitions and worth fighting for, Arsenal last season appeared very superior and even they were able to become a team that is serious enough to challenge Manchester City in the championship competition in premier league, not only in the league,  Many of us actually hope that Arsenal can achieve great achievements in the Champions League last season considering their squad which had a pretty good performance but again and again Munich is a stumbling block that continues to thwart Arsenal in the Champions League, currently Arsenal must indeed be able to get the Premier League trophy to restore the mentality and also the confidence of their squad,But isn't it also better for Arsenal to continue to fight in the Champions League and who knows if they are lucky next season they can get one of the two trophies at the end season, but what is certain is that at this time Arsenal must be able to develop their squad to be better by bringing in experienced players to improve the quality and mentality of the team next season.

A club can use one point to win the title, so it is not about how close the points are but how to stay focus in order for you to take advantage of your rival defeat and win the title, which is what City always patiently wait for when they see Arsenal topping the league last season and last two seasons.

If Arsenal does not have that winning mentality, it will be difficult for them to win the title next season. Manchester city already have that winning mentality and that is why you see that towards the end of the season, that is when they will become stronger than before to enable them not lose any of the or matches but to win all.

En-Nesyri will not play in this game. It really saddens me that we're missing Cengiz and Mercan. But, Kruniç and Kent are in the lineup. I prefer to put Bartuğ in instead of Kruniç. This was because of poor performance shown by Kruniç. Dzeko may be a striker in this game for Fenerbahce.

It's also bad to see Saint-Maximin injured. I miss him playing. But, we can only see Kent in the lineup as his replacement. I'm only expecting 2-0 for the result in the Lugano match. Fenerbahce must win this match to advance. If they win, they will qualify for the Europa League.

Rather than helping most teams become even more successful like you are suggesting, I'm thinking it will rather stress some more teams because they are not participating in the champions league alone, they have several other leagues to handle , some have their domestic league and a few other tournaments to carry alongside, this put together is enough to get them fatigued at some point and reduce their efficiency. As for the proposed venue for the finals, for me I see it as such an ideal one. Real Madrid happens to be the favourite for most supporters of the champions league this season obviously because of their form and foreseen strength and that's quite understandable.

For sure Manchester City shouldn't be regarded as the main club that has the best performance of wining the champions League this upcoming season because there are also more better clubs, however I don't think Manchester City have what it takes to stop the real Madrid because they disappointed me this season when I was thinking that they have performance to win but at the end there strength was not good enough so perhaps if they come back this upcoming season with the same performance they will not have a chance on the champions League, however among all the clubs you listed above I think Borussia Dortmund should not be included because I don't think they will still maintain the performance they had on this season because I can see how they were struggling on there friendly match and losing to a small club.