Topic: UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season - page 593. (Read 89341 times)

Arsenal will not win the Champions League next season because they have strong clubs in the competition, and Arteta will not be able to challenge them so easily. They are strong in the Premier League, and they need to focus on their problem because they are not getting any opportunities in the Champions League. I am confident that if they join them with any strong club, they will be knocked out in the round of 16. if they join them with any strong club.

Let's see if Arteta will improve his coaching quality next season and help the club achieve their goals, because it's been a long time since Arsenal won a big title, and they haven't had a chance to win a title in the competition the following season. Is it Aston Villa's fault that Arsenal didn't win the Premier League last season? They should have won the league title. because am sure they won't try and lose any point in they get the hope and win Aston Villa. But all is Arteta fault, in need to improve in time of substitution in the pitch he need to get the talent of setting better lineup for hurt match, let see how the competition will be if Arteta can challenge the big club in the UCL next time.

The Champions League is still dominated by La Liga teams if based on the number of titles won. Arsenal, Manchester City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester United should be able to become successive winners in different seasons if they play well each season, but unfortunately in the last few seasons only Manchester City and Chelsea and Liverpool have been able to win it.

Basically I can expect teams from the Premier League to be able to defend the Champions League title in several seasons, but until now they have always had difficulty winning it. In fact, teams like Liverpool, Manchester City and Chelsea have quality players that allow them to swap places as Champions League winners in different seasons, but this has not happened in the last few seasons. Arsenal will likely go far in the Champions League next season if they can improve their performance, but once again the team lacks mentality.

I agree with you that is wasn't easy for City to win UCL even with their strong performance. City have only won it once and this happened when they were in their peak form because if you look at it, they have won EPL four consecutive times but within that period they have only won UCL once.

Arsenal is not as strong as City and that is why they should focus more on winning EPL first, if they have won EPL twice maybe that will strengthen and improve their mentality to focus on being champions because they have already tasted winning a title, I think that will motivate them.

I think it is quite easy to determine what is the main priority, because logically they play in 2 big competitions, namely the English League and the Champions League. I am sure they will make both of them a priority to achieve the achievement they have been pursuing all this time. The English League is a more regular league, there are matches every week, so they have to prepare as well as possible. Meanwhile, in the Champions League, they have time to prepare, although perhaps at the start they will also have a busy schedule, because usually there are only 6 matches in the initial phase, but now they have 8 matches with the change in the Champions League format.

Actually, this is what worries me, in the midst of a busy schedule there will usually be problems, one of which is fatigue experienced by the players, and what is even worse is the storm of injuries that could come to them. So amidst the priorities they set, they also have to be clever in maintaining the health of the players.

You don't need to blamed Arsenal for that failure, because there are many strong teams on this UEFA champions league tournament that is making every tournament difficult for Arsenal to cross round 16 or to get to final stage, which is what happened to Arsenal in this season.

If you look at the tournament very well, you will believe that Arsenal didn't prepare to lift UEFA champions league trophy because their major target in this season based on the first position they where hodling in the premier league competition, but unfortunately Manchester city took over the position till the end of the tournament that made Arsenal to lose UEFA champions league trophy and premier league trophy too. Dortmund players tried their possible best to got to final stage but they missed plenty opportunity that made their opponent to lift the UEFA champions league trophy, I believe Arsenal coach will not allow such thing to happen next season, if they succeed to sign in those talented players because he will concentrate on UEFA champions league trophy than any other trophy next season.

I don't like betting on these early games, they are usually teams that will not have any chance to go anywhere neither, probably all of the teams that play here, will either not see the group stage, or just be near the end at the group stages, nothing more.

It means that the yare usually not teams that are this level good, they should be at lower levels, Europa if possible. That is why I honestly do not think that it makes sense to gamble here. Like Fenerbahce, looks like a team that will beat their opponent, and could very well do that, but it's a team that was 2 levels below, at conference, just last year, did alright but failed to win, lost at like quarter finals or something I think.

All in all I think it's easy to see that we are not going to deal with anything profitable for these teams, could be something that will take a while for me to start betting. I will wait for the group stages because at group stages we are talking about teams that are actually good, and even if you are betting on the ones that will probably not win, the difference between the up and the down is bigger, so betting on the better teams is easier. You could still lose, it's just not going to be easy at all.

Yeah, maybe you are right about that. Not exactly a league but a different variation of it now. We are all going to experience it for the first time so I hope we enjoy this format more.  

When it comes to the qualification rounds going on currently, in so many leagues there are qualification slots also given to teams based on domestic league position. They need to get past a couple of rounds successfully to have a chance to play in the league phase.

For example:



Biggest European leagues don't generally have this, they are sending their teams directly. I guess this is why you were surprised to see it.

Lastly when it comes to 4 extra slots, some big European leagues were given extra slots depending on club coefficients etc.. For example a league normally sends 4 teams but the 5th finishing team also gained a chance.    Bologna and Dortmund qualified thanks to that but I'm not sure about the remaining 2 slots.    I know it's complicated but you would get the logic better in time.

https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/028a-1a386150ed4b-322dff667686-1000--2024-25-uefa-champions-league-bologna-and-dortmund-secure-/

Arsenal squad dept is not that strong that was why they have been surrendering to Manchester City at the last stages of the season for the past two seasons. You cannot compare Manchester City squad dept and that of Arsenal at present. Manchester City has at least two world-class players in every department but same can't be said about Arsenal. Yes Arsenal has good players but if they want to be operating in the level that Manchester City is currently they have to dive into the transfer market and add more fresh legs that are going to provide more competition to the first team squads they have already.

They shouldn't look for players that are willing to settle for the bench. They should get players that are ready to go into the first team immediately, players that are going to make the coach have headache when it come to selecting the match day squad. They need to have a player that's playing at the level of Declan rice in mid field, and same in defense and get rid of Gabriel Jesus because he is lost in the Arsenal team. Arteta need to have a team that he can rotate and keep getting good results without shivering. Only when this is done that's when Arsenal can compete effectively in all competition next season.

You says is true that because Arsenal has failed to compete with Manchester City for race title in Premier League two season in a row and i am sure next season Arteta will give his priority for that league compared to Champion League trophy but Arteta said he will give his best in this competition and will attempts to bringing Arsenal to performing well for next season and Arteta said win Champion League is very hard target for Arsenal even the managers before him were failed to bringing Arsenal to gets trophies because we all know during their history Arsenal never gets the trophies from this competition

If talking about Arsenal performance in this competition with Arteta actually they have good progress because after always be stuck at round of 16 for 14 years finally Arsenal can able to advances to the quarterfinal last season but unfortunately Arsenal was unable go further more because on quarterfinal they were eliminated by Bayern Munich with narrow aggregate 3-2

For next season we all know Champion League will have new format and mostly the participants of this competition will do more matches compared to last season and about Arsenal performance for next season i personally still stick to my opinion although Arsenal is a big team but i didn't considers them as champion candidate but i think at least they have potention to repeat their last season achievement by advances to the quarterfinal stages again

This is also one of the reasons and indeed as you say Arsenal sometimes only want to focus on one of the competitions they participate in so that they can perform optimally. Indeed, this does not mean they are not serious about being in other competitions, but it can be said that their attention is a little less and they don't want to be too pushy if they have to lose or be eliminated later.

They know that for now they cannot be consistent in several competitions at once so instead of making everything scattered it would be better if only 1 competition they focus on and Arteta knows that.

So in this case it actually returns to the initial discussion where Arsenal can only be a troublesome club for opponents but they will still be difficult if forced to compete, let alone fight for trophies because after all it is beyond the control of their strength srt at least for this season.

UCL is the highest level of football competition, it cannot compare with any domestic league. Sure, it is more competitive because only the best teams in each European leagues which can compete in UCL. Every team dreams to win UCL trophy since it will be a proof that they are the best team in the world. However, it is a very difficult matter because it doesn't only need quality team but it is also about the winning mentality. So far, only Real Madrid which can show great mentality in UCL. Th team like Arsenal has a quality squad, but they have no strong mentality. This makes them to be difficult to win the UCL trophy.

Honestly, I don't have an idea to compare current Arsenal squad and the past squads. I think it is not really necessary. However, the current Arsenal squad looks strong enough, they have many quality players. But they seems having no strong strikers, this can be the weakness of Arsenal. They need to have a strong striker who has good experience in UCL. If Arsenal can have it, Arsenal may have a chance to win UCL trophy. But sure, Arteta also needs to improve the mentality of Arsenal players. The quality of squad is nothing if they have no strong mentality.

The move from group stage to league phase is a big move actually since big teams have a chance to be pitted against each other even from day 1 of the competition. I know we had some match-ups like this in the past format but it should be more frequent with league phase. For the league phase, I understand that teams position in their last domestic league table is used, not sure about the qualification rounds currently going on and there are mention of 4 slots with criteria I'm not too sure of on the uefa article you posted.

I will watch some YouTube video later to better understand it. The reason why I find it a bit confusing apart from the explanation about league phase is because we have become accustom to how the UCL works for over a decade now. I'm sure not everyone is well adjusted with the changes yet. I came to the thread only to see some people talking about qualifying stages and I was just outright confused. Afaik, as long as our favorite big teams finished well in their domestic leagues, they should be good to go for league phase seeding.

Arteta must focus on every competition they participate in because if Arteta only focuses on the Premier League, they will definitely not be ready for a busy schedule. Apart from that, Arsenal are indeed weakened by their failure in every season because they are at the top of the Premier League standings but in the end they surrendered to Manchester City. 
Arteta must think of an effective way to solve this problem where he must be able to share the same power when they play in the Champions League or domestic league because that way they can achieve the targets they want to achieve. 
This season of course, Arsenal has big ambitions in the Champions League because the depth of the Arsenal squad is very strong and they only need concentration to make it happen to become champions.

That's what makes Arsenal so troublesome because indeed their focus for now can only be in one competition and Arsenal will find it difficult to do so in several competitions at once.

Arsenal are not a bad club but there are priorities that must be seen because for now Arsenal know that their strength cannot keep up with several other big clubs like Madrid or Manchester City in several competitions at once. Not that they also gave up because they tried as much as they could to perform optimally, it's just that in order to minimize failure so that there is no decline in performance in all competitions, Arsenal always try to try to focus on one of the competitions even though until now they are also still struggling to win but at least we can see the increase in their performance little by little it looks and even in the last 2 seasons being in the runner up is something to be praised in the EPL.

Actually Arsenal should not even focus in winning the Champions league now, their main focus should be winning the EPL instead which they have a better chance of doing even Man city who have been dominating the EPL found it hard to get their first Champions League Trophy even with excellent players and a coach like Pep but with time they finally did which I think Arsenal can if they are consistent enough to snatch the EPL champions title from Man City.

These are good hopes we are having as Arsenal fans, we believed in Arteta because he was the coach that was able to rescue team since the legendary Arsene Wenger left the club for good; Uni Emrey came and tried, Lumberg also tried for a while but Arteta was the one that is able to regain the team’s spirit as well as gain trust from Arsenal fans.

Winning Premier League, FA Cup, Carabau cup, and the Champions League are all part of Arsenal’s ambition for the next season; they will not put too much focus on the EPL even though they are capable of winning the EPL since they the only team that is able to show some challenge to Manchester City in the last two season.
I will also expect Arsenal to go far in the Champions League next season because winning the Champions League is also a top priority for Arsenal.

Even as an arsenal fan I cannot actually beat my chest that arsenal Can win the champions league it’s be an impossible mission for arsenal to achieve Not as if arsenal cannot achieve it, But are they really ready To pay the sacrifice to win the champions league because for you to be able To win the champions league there’s a lot of sacrifices to be paid. Even with arsenal have improved I wonder what is stopping us from winning at least one title they have been mocking us that we have be unable to win anything. Our mentality needs to change, because arsenal have not been able to win anything but everything is a gradual process. Because is not as if arsenal is not doing well, but to win is a problem, I know that Aston villa was our problem last season but we should have gone past Aston villa, because we need serious reformation because I was disappointed with even with Saka performance because last season was a terrible one.

Arsenal's style of play is very unified, they have succeeded in carrying out a style of play that is interesting to watch. Yes, you are right, Arsenal strength is very strong and they only need the mentality to become champions. Moreover, the Champions League is certainly very difficult to become champion because you have to compete with teams from other leagues where they are much stronger and have a winning mentality like Real Madrid.

For this reason, Arsenal needs time to become the strongest in the Champions League and succeed in winning the UCL trophy. Arteta only needs support from the players because the existing players are capable enough to carry prestigious titles. Many people think that Arsenal needs a new striker and maybe Arteta has already thought about it.

Arsenal do not have the squad required for both EPL and UCL. They are competing in both leagues, but they get stuck after a certain point because they don't have enough squad. This shows that Arsenal do not have enough squad. Arsenal are not in a bad situation financially and they can actually add star players to their squad. Arsenal's management is failing every season because they don't have enough squad depth. I think what this team lacks is star players. If the transfer mentality of the management changes then they can achieve success.